F-8 was the only production aircraft to use a variable angle of incidence wing. Really cool aircraft.
@mitzyismad11 жыл бұрын
Love the Crusaders but man, I admire the courage of those deckhands who lay underneath it while its connecting to the cat. That takes very large balls. Lovely piece of French Naval aviation.
@alainlestrat35587 жыл бұрын
j'étais sur le Foch en 1972 au service aviation (élingueur catapulte) et à l'époque nous n'avions pas de casque mais un bonnet de protection en toile...... il fallait donc éviter de se cogner car cette protection était symbolique
@lancelot19536 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Alain - j'etais officier de liason Americain aupres de la Marine Nationale a Nimes-Garon circa 1990. J'ai ete tres impressionne par la performance des pilotes Francais. De plus, j'ai ete traite comme un roi par le personnel de la base et par la communaute locale. Merci a vos compatriotes pour l'accueil que j'ai recu, Ciao L (excusez mon clavier Anglophone)!
@user-qs1xc2cs1s3 жыл бұрын
@@lancelot1953 Anytime ! our US allies are always welcome and cherished. excuse my engilsh, im french ;)
@gerardlenormand142 Жыл бұрын
@@lancelot1953 vive poutine vive la Russie, fuck yankees
@robertmantell54667 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to see the Last of the Gunfighters in this vid. Way cool. Thank you French Navy guys for flying the stuff I love later than we do - Corsairs, Bearcats, and Crusaders into their twilight. ~S
@The_BIG_salad3 жыл бұрын
Where do you see corsairs and Bearcats in this video?
@sargesacker25993 жыл бұрын
@@The_BIG_salad I think he’s thanking the French for flying the bearcats and corsairs for flying them after they were retired in U.S service, much like the crusader in this case.
@The_BIG_salad3 жыл бұрын
@@sargesacker2599 ah, you are correct sir.
@The_BIG_salad3 жыл бұрын
I wish the French Navy still flew the Super Entendard (i think that's how you spell it) as well, definitely one of my top 5 non US, nato planes.
@user-qs1xc2cs1s3 жыл бұрын
@@The_BIG_salad it was a fine airplane indeed, but it comes to its life end, you've got one on display at the town of Fréjus near the beach if u come to visit us. Did you know that at this time we used a cable tied to the wings to the cataplut that was lost in the sea each time ? its only with the rafalfe that we adopted the American system of the frongt wheel attachment. And that's why our pilot pass their carrier abilitation in the US. Personaly my fav will stay the Crusader, the big mouth the canons , the adjusting wings, its palmares in vietnam.. saw it in real bunch of time when they made présentation of the Foch and the Clemenceau, and there is one in display in a base at Cuers..amazing machine thx for the US for making a so great airplaine and especially make a "F" vesion ( F for French ;) ) of course excuse my low level of english .
@gerwille13 жыл бұрын
Ca c'était la bonne époque !! Un vrai bateau de guerre qui ne tombait pas si souvent en panne, et un equipage au top!
@jeanfrancoishernandez3657 Жыл бұрын
Hello 😉 ne pas oublier que la technologie est là 😉 . FOCHE ET CLEMANCEAU . Un autre monde tout les appareils fin des années 50 . Le P A N ça veut dire ce que ça veut dire . Puissance 10 . Puissance 50 avec les RAFALES F3R . En plus avec 3700 Hommes en moins 😉 les z'ailes du haut doubs 👍
@jastafan69372 жыл бұрын
J'étais Chouf à l'époque, Ponev, compagnie 6/7, babordais ,poste équipage D011, équipe 8, fonction spéciale, veilleur OA, héraut de pont, puis aide directeur, j'étais là en 1994 entre missions Balbuzards, calif pilote, manœuvres avec l' ALAT, et les essais du Rafale Marine M01 et M02 good stuff who else is tuned?
@kareyriggs10184 жыл бұрын
I grew up living a few blocks from Vought plant in Grand Prairie. Hung out every day at NAS Dallas. Those were the days. F8s and A7s coming in all shot up for repairs. Flame outs took many a brave test pilot. You would hear a thud and see a black mushroom and you knew one going to heaven. Seats had no guidance propulsion back then. It saves lives.
@vincefrommenton Жыл бұрын
Ça me rappelle des souvenirs 1993 pour ma part CONEV Foch et TCD Foudre
@fredgrall19552 жыл бұрын
Que des bons souvenirs sur le PA FOCH 09/94 à 11/95 Brigade Sécurité spécialité pompier
@takamushinagamoto5086 Жыл бұрын
A l'époque, on avait encore notre fierté et notre indépendance...on n'était pas encore les vidangeurs de latrines des américains ...Superbe vidéo !!! 👍
@LedufInfraLeDufiNFrA4 ай бұрын
Si hélas déjà ... Plan marshall
@cafou974 Жыл бұрын
J'ai vu ces avion combat à hélice survolé dans l'océan indien en 99 ils sont resté quelque jour dans la zone tropic et quand il survolé les île à plein gas tu reste figé à admiré le bruit des hélice
@loranm7714 жыл бұрын
Des images d'archives et dire que c'était il y a à peine 15 ans, merci pour ce post, j'ai quant à moi servi sur le CDG et ça n'a rien à voir.
@user-qs1xc2cs1s3 жыл бұрын
merci d'avoir servit .
@Fredaunaturel6 жыл бұрын
Merci pour ces images. Même si le but final est de bombarder, j'ai quand même des frissons en regardant. Même si les "volants" regardaient les matelots de haut, je peux comprendre aujourd'hui qu'il leur fallait de la concentration. J'ai eu la chance, en tant qu'appelé, en 1992/1993 d'assister à des catapultages. Ça marque. Je me souviens du bruit insupportable au moment du décollage. La Marine, moi, j'ai aimé. Ce n'est hélas plus ce que c'était...... La Défense nationale est devenue qu'une armée va-t-en-guerre à la botte de l'OTAN. Enfin.... on pourrait en parler des heures. Merci pour ces images souvenirs.
@patricebourdon7880 Жыл бұрын
Le but final n'est pas de bombarder mais d'éviter d'avoir à le faire, et si on y est obligés, de le faire correctement...
@fredgrall195510 ай бұрын
Des bons souvenirs sur se bâtiment, fier d avoir servi dessus ds la Brigade Sécurité 94/95
@cbeckett27875 жыл бұрын
Love the Crusaders!
@jor07015 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!, thanks for posting
@chevillardlaurent625710 жыл бұрын
il s'agit bien du porte-avion Foch et du Rafale M.j'étais à l'époque quartier-maitre chef engagé sur le PA Foch et nous alternions les missions Balbuzard en mer adriatique (guerre en Yougoslavie) et les campagnes de qualification du Rafale M.on a pas attendu le PA De Gaulle pour faire des appontages .....
@FlyDelta72612 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage
@marcbonneau72224 жыл бұрын
Rare film from foch aircraft carrier... I was doing my military service tour of duty on-board its sister ship Clemenceau exactly one year after those pictures were produced. I was assigned as aircraft tractor towing on flight deck rear team number 8. This launch was exactly the same. At first, Breguet Alizé, former anti submarine aircraft (the admiral ship was protected by a submarine, an anti aircraft and missiles fregate, an anti submarine fregate, and refueled every two days by a '' ravitailleur '' ship) , upgraded for forward air control duty... 2 launches and one in emergency status, motor running placed on the rear elevator. After that, we launched 2 to 4 Crusader FN for anti aircraft cover. And then 10 to 15 Super Étendard Modernized batch 3, with new ground attack radar, new conter mesures systems including anti missiles warning systems and chaf flares dispensers FIMAT, carrying 125 to 250 kg live free fall bombs. During 4 Salamander missions in Adriatic sea, each 2 months operational time, and espacialy in March 1996, against Serbian offensives in former yougoslavian federation, we used to work day and night (into total black out), 12 hours a day, launching full aircraft '' bordée '' every 30 minutes... Refueling and rearming on the deck... We suffered no accident neither crew injuries. The flight deck was and still a dangerous environmental and working area, needed every members of teams self and others particular care and watch. On aircraft carrier clemenceau, no personal injuries were noticed between 1988 to its withdrawn in 1998. I am proud to have been part of the '' 8 ball '' team and serving on-board this incredible ship. Particular thanks to Maître Principal Bonnechere for receiving, human and professional skills during and under its team command... Never forget.
@jastafan69372 жыл бұрын
Never forget either, i was onboard the Foch that day, alongside the cat, I was a Ponev, aide-directeur équipe 8, compagnie 6/7. Mission Balbuzard.
@LeonelEBD2 жыл бұрын
Now thats a golden lineup of jets and turboprops !
@allgood6760 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! 👍
@Hot_Sky_Astronomy10 ай бұрын
F-8s AND Rafales on the same boat. That's something else.
@bdlchaplotteam43514 жыл бұрын
que de bons souvenirs
@clacicle10 жыл бұрын
Good catch!
@Colonialpara10 жыл бұрын
FOCH was sold to Brazil in 2000 and is now known as SAO PAOLO.
@kelvinpfeiffersilva4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but is São Paulo ;)
@user-qs1xc2cs1s3 жыл бұрын
snif yes.... we wanted so hard to keep it ( i lved at its south harbor at his time) and turn it into a museum but they decided to sell it, so sad.
@336kgf13 жыл бұрын
@Polaris688 Thanks for the info. I will have to research this aircraft because my curiousity has gotten the best of me. :)
@redbaroniii11 жыл бұрын
When I was in the med in 1967-68 the American F8s didn't need burner on launch. I noticed that the French kick in burner after launch, kind of late I would think. A cat officer told me to never mind your thrust on launch, no matter what, they will add more steam to the point they could make a 1955 Buick fly.
@kareyriggs10184 жыл бұрын
Dad's 55 Buick flew without a catapult. !
@redbaroniii11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Another reason they don't light burner on the cat could be they just don't want to put up with all that jet blast. Jet blast can be a problem, the F14 in full burner had to launch in 7 seconds or the jet blast deflector would start to melt.
@boodaddy314 жыл бұрын
F8 Crusaders used a rope harness to attach to the catapult shuttle, as did the old F4, A3, A4, and many Vietnam era planes; it's hooked to a clamp that retains it at the end of the catapult launch stroke. The harness was good for only so many launches. After that, it's allowed to simply go over the side at the end of the launch - or that's the way it was in the US Navy. I assume the French do the same. Modern naval aircraft use a nosegear bar to hook to the cat shuttle.
@leneanderthalien12 жыл бұрын
Et pourtant l 'Alizé est même capable de décoller du porte avions sans catapulte (décolle en 200m)...Il a quand même près de 2000cv dans le nez (pour un poids de 8 tonnes en charge)
@mokeimusic12 жыл бұрын
That JBD is so cute!!!
@fleetwarrior754 жыл бұрын
I finally figured out why I feel such a connection to the French... steam!
@ConrailSD70MAC15 жыл бұрын
The Foch was sold to Brazil in 2000. Now named the São Paulo. The Marinha do Brasil uses A-4 skyhawks off her deck.
@Zone5Aviation12 жыл бұрын
All of those catapult slings that attach to the aircraft and the catapult, are they all a one use thing or is there a net or something attached in front of the bow of the ship to catch them?
@rhgrsh17 жыл бұрын
1994 ! le pont a completement changé ! en 13 ans
@chevillardlaurent625710 жыл бұрын
non ce n'est pas difficile à dire.sur un PA américain,pas de super étendart,pas de breguet alize et pas de crusader depuis belle lurette.c'est bien le PA Foch en 1994 avec moi surement quelque part en compartiment Machine arriere ou de quart au pc elect.
@Colonialpara10 жыл бұрын
The French were smart to keep their fixed wing aircraft carriers UNLIKE the Brits who got rid of them in the late 1970s when ARK ROYAL was decommissioned and they bought those three pathetic helicopter carriers of the Invincible class.
@rivco50088 жыл бұрын
I agree. Focus & Clemenceau were great ships...
@bigred52877 жыл бұрын
Colonialpara but those were fixed wing carriers? Harriers are fixed wing aircraft.
@leneanderthalien7 жыл бұрын
fixed wings? what did you mean? non fixed wing is a helicopter... Clemenceau and Foch was CATOBAR carrier, like all US carriers, but smaller...
@lancelot19536 жыл бұрын
Not really, the Royal Navy lost six ships to the Argentine Air Force (Fuerza Aérea Argentina) - and it could have been worse as several bombs did not explode and the Argentine pilots, using mid-fifties design aircrafts, had to fly very long missions to make it to the Royal Navy operational area. The Harrier is a great aircraft but is not as effective for Barrier Combat Air Patrol (BARCAP) mission profiles. Ciao, L
@wbaiv5 жыл бұрын
@@lancelot1953 mmm Sea Harrier did BARCAP, they had air-to-air radar, Harriers did not. Sea Harriers were not *as* effective at BARCAP as what? F-4Ks? Buccaneers? Jaguar M? Hawk 100s? F-111Ks? F-8Ks? The UK painted themselves into a corner trying to buy British, be credible in a conventional NATO, maintain nuclear retaliation capability AND do force projection outside NATO. A tall order. If they'd kept conventional carriers AND kept them up-to-date AND put something closer to US size air wings aboard- say, 50-70 aircraft versus 12 each, AND had organic air-to-air refueling, there certainly would have been different results. It was no accident the Argentines had to fly a long way, the UK Navy was placed for that effect. Yes, bombs and at least one Exocet didn't detonate, but the British air defences didn't recognize Exocet / Etenard as hostile, at first. War sucks. It's never just one thing in aerospace. Whatever the Sea Harrier's BARCAP short-comings, its not clear that choice of available planes was the key difference, versus limited number of planes available, versus no air-to-air refueling, versus better AWACs, versus better point-defense weapons on each ship, versus better design and exercising by RN for conventional combat. The Argentine Junta's decision to start the war was an existential, monumental, mistake, for them, with huge ramifications.
@Colonialpara10 жыл бұрын
I believe the Aeronavale flew the F8 Crusader up until 1999 or 2000.
@bonneaumarc67211 жыл бұрын
As a flight deck lorry driver on the sister ship Clemenceau, yes, the capatult cable was used for only one aircraft Super étendard, étendard IV P and Bréguet Alizé counter submarine and foward air control aircraft). There had been severals tentatives to place a recuperation hook just after the end of the flight deck, but all the tentatives failed. Finaly, considering of the poor necessity of this dispositif, and for security regards, the engeeners had rapidly abandoned the experiment.
@leneanderthalien7 жыл бұрын
no: for the Breguet Alizé was a reusable cable, like the cruz.Only super Etendard/Etendard 4 use lost cables...i was on boot, Clemenceau and Foch
@riccardosmirnov50639 жыл бұрын
Hello, if possible, French F-8 had an higher nose landing gear for a better angle of attack in the wing? Thanks.
@34RogerB6 жыл бұрын
The F8E-FN had a blown wing, ie engine bleed air was fed over a significant portion of the wing for landings. USN modified some of the F8D and E versions similarly.
@thibautmallet11948 жыл бұрын
its cable more than rope, but it was only used once, as it fell in the water after each launch
@leneanderthalien12 жыл бұрын
The forward landing gear from the Rafale is comparable to a F/A18 gear, but the difference is that the Rafale gear as a "spring" funktion to give more wing incidence at take off...
@wiimancool113 жыл бұрын
c'est un truc de ouf
@pchotard12 жыл бұрын
Bonjour ; sur le film on voit meme un biréacteur : un Rafale? ... J'étais à l'EM ALFAN (ASM -AIDCOMER) avant Balbuzard de juillet 92 à 95. J'y ai participé avec l' Orage, la Foudre, le Clem et le Foch de 92 à 95 . Et je n'ai jamais vu la queue d'un Cruze et j'aurais aimé .
@Simo-nk1oq6 жыл бұрын
How come the F8s don't lite the burner until AFTER they've cleared the deck? U S Navy birds lite it pre launch.
@monstrok6 жыл бұрын
The burner would melt the jet blast deflector behind the aircraft if it was lit on the deck
@Simo-nk1oq6 жыл бұрын
They did on U. S. Navy carriers ?
@monstrok6 жыл бұрын
Most of the time but not always. The F-14B and F-14D could not use their afterburners on deck for the same reason - the heat from their GE F-110 engines in full reheat could melt the JBD's (check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIKsinSAq9-Brrs). Conversely, F-14A's did use burners for carrier takeoffs most of the time with their PW TF-30's. Lots of other great KZbin videos of these types doing carrier launches.
@android92713 жыл бұрын
@discofishing Rafale is a french company, so wouldn't that mean that the french landing gear is the "normal" landing gear?
@bombardierdude1511 жыл бұрын
do the bridles just get thrown into the ocean just like that?
@Lawiah012 жыл бұрын
The F8 Crusader was one fine jet; say goodbye to the last of the gun fighters.
@rivco50088 жыл бұрын
Nice video. That Crusader/Etendard combination was a good one. Was the Breguet Alize ever used for Airborne Early Warning?
@durandil8 жыл бұрын
No the Alizé was used to destroy submarines
@leneanderthalien7 жыл бұрын
no, the Alizé was not only to chase submarines, but for early warning, SAR, reconnaissance,etc... Same missions as the Breguet Atlantic, but in add with rocket and AS12 anti ship missile capability...i was mecanic on this aircraft...
@yvesmrenaud75616 жыл бұрын
leneanderthalien nko
@leneanderthalien12 жыл бұрын
And this F8 Crusaders was the last in operational service worldwide! The French navy plane to replace it (in the 90') with US leaned F/A 18 to make the interface up to the starting in service from the Rafale M, but the president Mitterrand , to preserve "French jobs", decide the modernisation from the F8 in France...was the same cost as the lean from the Hornets (...)
@discofishing13 жыл бұрын
French Navy seems has an interesting choice of landing gear. Rafale M appears to be a departure from the norm.
@LeChar198915 жыл бұрын
Nice but I think the Foch isn`t still in use!?Sold to Brasil I think!
@wiimancool113 жыл бұрын
il est tro top le superetendar
@336kgf13 жыл бұрын
I apologize for not posting in French. Great video. I'm wondering what the turboprop aircraft were. Thanks.
@jeanpaulfilippi89644 жыл бұрын
The turbo prop aircraft is a 1050 Breguet "Alize" (Tradewind) originally an anti submarine warfare aircraft, later despite the upgrades, the Alize was clearly not capable of hunting moderm nuclear submarines and so, it was relagated to ocean surface patrol.
@leonardoromanmunoz.20928 жыл бұрын
que aviones son los que tienen ahi??los de helice en la punta???
@ledrod23077 жыл бұрын
Breguet Alize, antisubmarino.
@robertmantell54667 жыл бұрын
What plane is this in the beginning?
@olivier51876 жыл бұрын
Rafale M for testing
@yvesmrenaud75616 жыл бұрын
Negatif ..Breguet Alizé....
@kelsdon016 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the French version of the Spad, she was an Airborne Command/Control over Yugo. Your best friend.
@suzannegoncalves99343 жыл бұрын
🔱😁👍
@victor20004313 жыл бұрын
ho :o vraiment super maren pour seux qui sont dans le quote pide
@banzaibanzinou391111 жыл бұрын
0:00 Rafale en 1994 !
@TheKtna11 жыл бұрын
It's not the same aircraft. It's a F-8P, a variant of the F8-E, and the F8-E what an update of the F8-FN. More heavy, but with J-57.
@nikonblaze12 жыл бұрын
0:01 il y avait déja des rafale M?? prototype?
@fbourde16 жыл бұрын
comment s appelle les avions a elices avant les crusader?
@fredgrall19552 жыл бұрын
Les ALIZES ils avaient 40 ans de différence avec le RAFALE
@jeancharlesdu213 жыл бұрын
4:06 Que se passe-t-il dans l'entrée d'air du Crusader ?
@noellecornet12883 жыл бұрын
A la mise en puissance du réacteur, juste avant le catapultage, l'admission d'air , donc sa concentration, devient de plus en plus importante. Ici, elle est rendue visible par le taux d'humidité de l'air ambiant.
@cnftnf12 жыл бұрын
I know the ones on the US carriers had ropes to tie them to the shuttle.
@TutoHDStarcraft211 жыл бұрын
Ha non excusez moi, si j'ai bien compris il s'agit du deuxième exemplaire du Foch.
@Tonkotsu2k103 жыл бұрын
Too bad HD cameras werent around then.
@rhgrsh17 жыл бұрын
Ohh ! 1894 ! Non ?
@redbaroniii12 жыл бұрын
Ressemble à l'amusement.
@AdrianN.8816 жыл бұрын
whats the fat funny looking propellor plane? iv never seen it bvefore
@jeanpaulfilippi89643 жыл бұрын
This is a Breguet 1050 Alize, a plane for anti submarine warfare, equiped with torpedo, or bombes or mines in a ventral hold and can get fitted with rockets under the wings.With the arrival of more nuclear attack submarines, it became obsolete and was used from the end of the 1980's untill its withdrawal from service in 2000, as a reconnaissance aircraft with a new radar.
@yveso74747 жыл бұрын
des Crusader en 1994?????
@pchotard15 жыл бұрын
surement pas . J'étais à ALFAN en Yougo entre 92 et 95 : on avait SEM, Alizé et Puma et Gazelle de l'ALAT , DAUPHIN ou Alouette Pedro ...plus qqs fois les Harrier british (CLEM et Foch). Salut à tous
@dichkerli945 жыл бұрын
J'étais en 92 à la BAN de Landivisiau, à ce moment là, il y avait des Crusader 12F
@jeanpaulfilippi89645 жыл бұрын
les derniers catapultages de crusader sur le PA Foch se sont fait en mars ou avril 1998.
@fredgrall19552 жыл бұрын
@@pchotard1 SI en 94/95 il y avait des CRUZ sur le FOCH meme pour les Missions BALBUZARDS
@fredgrall19552 жыл бұрын
OUI et meme des sacres avions par leur taille
@pinz202211 жыл бұрын
So with the modern nosegear bar there's no need for flightdeck crewmen to physically crawl under there to manually attach it? NOT a job I would have wanted!
@suzannegoncalves99343 жыл бұрын
117.1👍😁
@suzannegoncalves99343 жыл бұрын
Lanveoc poulmic 1994
@hafizfirliansyah77845 жыл бұрын
Russia's Navy Aviation,USA's Navy(Their Air Force Command),British Navy Fleet Air Arm and French Navy Aeronaval.
@charlesdecharleville62878 жыл бұрын
Je trouve sa horrible de l'avoir vendu au Brésil pour l'avoir appelé le Sao Polo il restera français !
@user-fv2fs8kx8l7 жыл бұрын
А че такие старые самолеты?! они не сняты что ли с вооружения?
@grouikr77423 жыл бұрын
Respect mais le SE(M) ont définitivement remis leurs choses à leurs places.
@RedCoka13 жыл бұрын
Et heu ... quel était l'itinéraire du Foch cette année ? fin simple curiosité ... si quelqu'un s'en souvient ... ^^
@fredgrall19552 жыл бұрын
Si je me trompes pas on était en direction de l EX YOUGO mission Balbuzard
@RedCoka2 жыл бұрын
@@fredgrall1955 ouch.. pas vraiment une belle destination touristique :x
@leneanderthalien12 жыл бұрын
Pour l'instant les anglais n'en ont aucun et d'ailleurs plus le budget pour faire les 2, et de toute façons, ils n'ont pas non plus d'avion à mettre dessus car les F35 qu'il veulent (2x plus cher qu'un Rafale marine!) sont très loin d'être opérationnels... La disponibilité du Charles de Gaulle est au contraîre excellente, et s'il n'est pas plus rapide, c'est parcequ'il utilise 2 machines nucléaires de sous marin lanceur d'engin...
@chest1314 жыл бұрын
8 ans aprés le temps te donne tord. Les anglais on deux porte avions STOBAR avec F35 .
@victor20004313 жыл бұрын
ho :o bisar
@rhgrsh17 жыл бұрын
Pont d'envol alors .
@TutoHDStarcraft211 жыл бұрын
Le porte avion Foch a été sabordé en 1942, ça ne peut pas être lui sur la vidéo ?
@jeanpaulfilippi89645 жыл бұрын
Il n'y avait pas de porte avions Foch en 1942. Le Foch de 1942 etait un croiseur
@couchfighter12 жыл бұрын
@TakumiFujiwara80 no load completely dry no ordnance at all
@LedufInfraLeDufiNFrA4 ай бұрын
Crusader : que cet avion est moche.😂
@stainless7158013 жыл бұрын
on t-il le droit de filmer dans des lieu militaires?
@chercheurdor194414 жыл бұрын
Nuls, comme d'habitube, des chefs nuls des mènent des hommes.