Love my 660, cannon bar and 404 full skip stihl chain.
@tomtheplummer73222 жыл бұрын
Regardless of chain, that is a straight cutting bar for sure👍🏻
@nkcwilliams4 жыл бұрын
Cool test man. That Cannon bar is sweet. I want to get one for the Alaskan mill. Do you notice a differenc going from 8 pin to 7 pin sprocket? Thanks Nick
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
I think you'd notice less torque. At that length I see no reason to go 8pin. If you aren't biting in enough. Which I don't think I was on the 3/8ths. Just take a swipe or two off the rakers. For milling I'd want more torque so definitely 7pin
@calebwillhelm26354 жыл бұрын
Man that saw is tuned to perfection
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
mtronic
@calebwillhelm26354 жыл бұрын
Redbull661 nvm sounds like crap!
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
@@calebwillhelm2635 lmao
@calebwillhelm26354 жыл бұрын
Redbull661 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ_dmmd3btx5m6s
@leprovocateur70074 жыл бұрын
Perfect test as always buddy
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
thank you sir.
@rottiejakeluke Жыл бұрын
Hello. Can you tell me where (maybe send a link) for where you bought the Archer chains? How do the Archer chains compare to the Stihl as for wear and for cost? Is there some thing you can point me to that will help me get a GOOD understanding of what differences there are between the 3/8 and 404 chains? I am not familiar and any help will be very appreciated. Thank you. Michael
@Redbull661 Жыл бұрын
ebay. They are pretty good. I'd rate them in between middle of the road for hardness. Oregon softer. Stihl harder. Definitely beat both on cost.
@ChippyOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
How do you like those dogs? Any reviews, compliments or negatives? Was looking at those for my saw
@michellepugh28594 жыл бұрын
I have a question about the 661 and mix oil? You and Scott clearly have this saw figured. What mix and at what ratio do you use it at? And have you had any of the crank bearing issues I keep hearing people talk about? I have a XS661 ported by Kevin L. I run motul 800 2T @ 40:1 in VP ethanol free gas. Everyone ive talked to runs 50:1 in their 661 and I think this is where the problem with the bearings is coming from? Just my opinion. Any input from you would be greatly appreciated.
@em47032 жыл бұрын
I use the same oil as you, at 33:1. Muffler is dry, gray in color. Inside the engine is nice and oily. Very good brand of oil. Don't cheap out on ratios, bearings like oil volume. 50:1 just asks for premature wear, so you're doing good going 40:1. It's not like Stihl or Husqvarna would care, it would still last hundreds of hours if not more even at leaner ratios. By then they can shove their new saw line down our throats. Win-win for them.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking225910 ай бұрын
I mix bombardier xps2 at 32:1 in everything, always have run 32:1 with no failures except once with old mix caster oil, I learned caster lubricity goes right out the window after about 7 days. That's when I switched to using only freshly mixed in small batches.
@alexmattyspac7605 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a dumb question but is the bar the same bar for the 3/8 and the 404? I know the rim sprocket would need to change right?
@alexmattyspac7605 Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleNovember thanks for the answer.
@akostoth39989 ай бұрын
@@alexmattyspac7605 Said answer from @PurpleNovember vanished - what was it?
@alexmattyspac76059 ай бұрын
@@akostoth3998 the bar tip would need to be replaced unless it is a hard nose. Also 404 comes 063 or 058 so your ⅜ and 404 would have to be the same gauges. As long as the bar gauges are the same the tip and the spocket can be changed out.
@gnarlychainsawcompany38934 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@stihlnz3 жыл бұрын
I've got a 660 running 3/8 .063 round and an 880 with .404 round, the .404 seems to stay sharp longer. I've just got a simington 451C so will see how we go with that.
@stihlnz3 жыл бұрын
Hey Redbull, great saw and comparison, well done
@JS-oy6nn3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have that 451!!! Tired of filing
@mattvorhees60554 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the cannon narrow kerf bars that run peco chain? Would be cool to see a comparison.
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
yeah I thought about doing an cannon regular bar vs mini narrow kerf. even if I used used same 3/8ths chain. Tree Monkey and I have tried to make a .325 chain as fast as 3/8ths on the 661. Just can't...we took sooo much off the rakers on a .325 chain it was basically ruined as far as working on any other saw. So with that in mind I'd like to see if the narrow kerf bar made a difference 3/8 vs 3/8
@mattvorhees60554 жыл бұрын
@@Redbull661 I've got a 20" narrow kerf and I can only fit the peco. I cant get the 3/8 to mesh with the nose sprocket.
@fabzacres-blackcat4 жыл бұрын
3/8 lo Pro ? That wood be interesting - most likely cut like a mofo until it snap-0-las
@1d1hamby4 жыл бұрын
Yes, more chains would be interesting. 3/8 50 gauge round tooth no skip chain and a semi round tooth and square tooth round file and square file. That would be interesting, but you'd need three cuts each. Then 63 gauge 3/8 and 404. And if you know what a full house chain is, a cutter on every driver, try that.
@lovestihlquality13694 жыл бұрын
Admit it. You just like running that big Cannon Bar.
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
lol much more fun to run than the 60" cannon! 60" cannon is just a beast to operate compared to this 50". hard to believe
@bryanmarks40704 жыл бұрын
How do you like that archer chain? I left a comment on an older video asking same question. I’m about to order some new chain for my 661 running 3/8 36”.
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
feedback has been it pretty much falls in the middle of oregon and stihl. not as soft as oregon not as hard as stihl.
@ÁrvoresEmadeiras3 жыл бұрын
I'll be using a 661 for milling, which chain would you use? I'm thinking about 3/8 full skip
@ÁrvoresEmadeiras Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleNovember thanks for the feedback, I haven't been milling lately but I'll print your suggestion, have fun!!
@user-ji8sn4ne4d4 жыл бұрын
А у нас доски вдоль делают.
@briankirwan95884 жыл бұрын
How does it oil the 50 inch bar? Did you turn up the oiler?
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
oiler is maxed...well I always leave it at max no matter what bar I am using. that said if the wood was really dry it would likely have a problem. Wood being wet/recently cut helps. Have not tried to mod the 661 oiler. Eventually I'd like to try it.
@1d1hamby4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see some oiler mod videos. And it would be great to know where I could get some modified oilers. 462, 661, and maybe a 880.
@michellepugh28594 жыл бұрын
@@1d1hamby gotta modify the control bolt to make the stroke of the pump longer= more oil
@guypatts4942 жыл бұрын
404 chain rules
@natemartinez45954 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can contact treemonkey? I wanna have my 661 ported
@Redbull6614 жыл бұрын
ammotesting@gmail.com
@AlexeyTarasov_Victar4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за видео! Наш тест тоже подтвердил , что 3/8 быстрее. Только разница у нас более существенная, так как звездочка 3/8 стоит 10 зубая kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGOrnadpp7ipq80