Ported vs Horn... the differences simply explained.

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M.B. Enclosures

M.B. Enclosures

3 жыл бұрын

Explaining the pros and cons of both types of enclosures...

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@davidlynch1576
@davidlynch1576 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a demo of the horn enclosure?
@BigHeinen
@BigHeinen 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations I've heard on the diff's between horn loaded enclosure and ported bass reflex enclosure. I salute you sir!
@csj9619
@csj9619 3 жыл бұрын
You explained both enclosures not only accurately, but simply and concisely. (Moreso than anyone else I've heard) There's so much bad info, inflated specs and misinformed people in car audio, that hearing someone knowledgeable discourse on the subject is refreshing. Nice craftsmanship too, btw.
@bobsyouruncle8052
@bobsyouruncle8052 Жыл бұрын
you do great work been building boxes for 30 years was 17 when i started alot of people dont understand how the right box makes all the difference keep up the good work
@josephmuniz9959
@josephmuniz9959 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get over your boxes. Dude you have a real talent for this and being so preticulur about how and what your boxes look and sound like, says a lot about you. I want one of your boxes so bad. Please please make blueprints I would love to build one.
@nickhorton296
@nickhorton296 Жыл бұрын
Preticulur 🤣
@imod1993
@imod1993 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about designing a horn enclosure and hints for the build. Thanks a lot, my compliments for your Channel
@Trinidadcaraudio
@Trinidadcaraudio 2 жыл бұрын
That u not going and see
@stevenball7375
@stevenball7375 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Jamez84
@Jamez84 2 жыл бұрын
Cerwin Vega has a ton of horn designs online. They made a bunch for movie theatres while pioneering subwoofers for the first time. They did this for the movie earthquake in the 70s. The theatres back then didn't have subwoofers and Cerwin Vega made thousands of subwoofers with boxes and delivered with those Earthquake films.
@Jeremyandroid
@Jeremyandroid Жыл бұрын
Lol this is the exact video you asking for. And 64 likes lmao. He's even telling you how to tune the horn VS schematics of subwoofer sd. I can't believe this comment 😂😂
@cadeo517
@cadeo517 Жыл бұрын
Can it be made with the speaker hole on the bottom
@treydean1751
@treydean1751 2 жыл бұрын
The man is pure genius, master of his craft and he has the ability to the complex and make it simple to the point anyone can understand clearly. Keep up the good work and I will be contacting you for my truck box.
@1280spoon
@1280spoon 3 жыл бұрын
1 of the best KZbin channels that breaks everything down to the nitty gritty
@johnnycorn7225
@johnnycorn7225 3 жыл бұрын
First off this is the best channel yet about enclosures I've encountered and delivery of ideas. 💯 Good. I just bought three 12-in stereo integrity SQL 12 s and I'm going with a horn loaded front firing sealed off from trunk enclosure that faces the 3 12s like this if you were looking at them overhead \_/. The chamber they're firing into is MDF on top and bottom of these three enclosures, reinforced. Each sealed in .8 cubic feet for a QTC that's tight and accurate. I was going to go with a front firing sealed off from trunk ported enclosure, with the aero ports ran up through the rear deck loading onto the glass. However,I've always preferred that thump and projection ability with accuracy that the horn produces.
@garyalexander212
@garyalexander212 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I watch this brother in 2021, you have definitively directed me to what design is best for my application.. thanks for your time and imparting your knowledge.
@RobertJeffersonBased
@RobertJeffersonBased 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 4.7 cube box with 100 sq. inches of port area for a single 12". It was an experiment and worked quite well. Thanks for the explanation. I am planning on a box experiment using the principles of a "loading wall" and kind of a horn too for a more venue/stage show oriented subwoofer box.
@jomanallen
@jomanallen Жыл бұрын
You explained this so well, I can tell you know a lot because you dumbed it down and it actually made sense! Most people seem like they are proving they are experts rather than teaching the target audience at the audience's level. Those boxes look great too.... nice smooth corners
@recursive_dream
@recursive_dream 3 жыл бұрын
Very solid video, thorough explanation. Keep posting more!
@sanveersookdawe
@sanveersookdawe 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see what this looks like on the inside. I've tried for a few days now to see a similar build to this with no luck. Would really appreciate if you could make more videos on this
@KICKER-AUDIO
@KICKER-AUDIO 3 жыл бұрын
Droppin knowledge. Great work sir, keep at it!
@M.B.Enclosures
@M.B.Enclosures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bassheadfanatik
@bassheadfanatik Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I learned a lot today and opened my mind to bigger and better builds. I love sq that still can do 50s and 60s on the meter. I want to try doing a horn with the new solo x pro kicker l7x 15" or even 18 if they ever get them out and build a folded horn enclosure in the back of a jeep. Loud, efficient and clean!.
@jordancouncil5583
@jordancouncil5583 Жыл бұрын
Dropping knowledge for us. Thank you for your videos.
@earlmullet7628
@earlmullet7628 Жыл бұрын
Wish I knew that much about Soundwaves and box building. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@jsnezy8288
@jsnezy8288 3 жыл бұрын
Now that explains dem horns, thanks mang, great explanation! 🙌🏾
@tolgadabbagh1877
@tolgadabbagh1877 2 жыл бұрын
man i little bit less accent can make it easier to understand your videos for foreign speakers of english . thx for the video .
@jasonnull2248
@jasonnull2248 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. I really like your content and knowledge level. Future customer.
@raymary2343
@raymary2343 Жыл бұрын
I finally get it thanks to the way you explain it. Cheers mate
@bigfoot131
@bigfoot131 3 жыл бұрын
This is really really nice damn bruh so detailed! I always thought the horn was predominantly used for large open spaces, I’ve never seen one mounted in any type of car. Seems like it’s way better and efficient than the ported.
@MadballBaby
@MadballBaby 2 жыл бұрын
I found this to be very useful and informative I appreciate your content and keep crashing it brother💪🏾Maryland showing ❤️
@kileymiller1784
@kileymiller1784 3 жыл бұрын
Brotha, if I had the space I may have went with the horn for my box. Another great vid. Keep it going!
@onenation6429
@onenation6429 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Needed this. Thank you 🙏🏾
@staffmoto4939
@staffmoto4939 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best explanation I've ever heard on port vs horn enclosures! Sub'd! (no pun intended :o)
@l.b.stringfellow2413
@l.b.stringfellow2413 Жыл бұрын
New viewer. You really explain things well. Very nice !!
@derrickbrown4161
@derrickbrown4161 Жыл бұрын
I spoke with you yesterday. I can't wait to try this
@Renrondog
@Renrondog 3 жыл бұрын
this man knows his design criteria, If you build with Baltic Birch (yes more expensive ply) they will not need as much bracing and you will find you can use thinner ply with the same cabinet stiffness. Charge more for a better product. Your explanation is spot on and the language is suitable for most lay people who don't build speakers from scratch. :) Excellent video and boxes. Nice double baffle on the 8" box good job.
@sermac3246
@sermac3246 2 жыл бұрын
Great information like always.👍
@bpintogsxr1000
@bpintogsxr1000 2 жыл бұрын
I was always curious on what clubs and concerts used for boxes. Thanks man 👍🏻
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 2 жыл бұрын
Often double 18s nowadays because you can pack more in a lorry. If you need to drive 2 lorries to get the same output from horn subwoofers, then any efficiency gains are negated by the inefficiencies of 2 trucks vs one. If the venue has a low power supply and the subwoofers can be permanently installed, then you get more out of the horns, and spend less on drivers, though more on cabinet woodwork. Double 18s are good at concentrating bass for space, though Danley Tapped horns are probably doing even better nowadays. I've also found 6th order can gain quite a bit in the upper passband for only being 50% larger than a vented box, and that's without increasing the amp power. I did my birthday party in a village hall and had substantial output from 2 12" subwoofers on 600 watts though only turned up about "40% loudness" which actually gives not 240 watts but just 30, for you need disproportionately more power to get slightly louder, psychologically speaking. By placing them both side by side and facing into a corner at close proximity - far more than I would have had placing one in front of each mid/high stand on the same amplifier. The rig fitted in a Citroen C2 and slammed and got pretty low too.
@twanmontford
@twanmontford 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you remembered everything i taught you Myron bruh lol. Proud of you homie.
@quevicular
@quevicular Жыл бұрын
WOW. Thanks for explaining this in simpleterms. Now I know what to do with my ford ranger early 90s!! Going to build around my TERAMPS 3000 HD 1 OHM. These amps are more than a beast. crazy power in a perfect small space. I think I go 2 12 inch sundowns or 4 8s on one side so I still can maintain a seat in the back and storage room. Thanks again for the explanation MB. B E A Utiful
@donnie4191
@donnie4191 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea horns could be used in this way untill now. Thank you for this
@igorCOD4ever
@igorCOD4ever 2 жыл бұрын
amazing and super well explained
@richardpeters9180
@richardpeters9180 3 жыл бұрын
Best vid youve made. Awesome job
@goodtrip4201
@goodtrip4201 3 жыл бұрын
Great video your knowledge and ability to articulate are top notch could you make a detailed video about SPL it would be greatly appreciated thank you
@Redstone256
@Redstone256 3 ай бұрын
Great Explaination. Thank you.
@t.k7589
@t.k7589 2 жыл бұрын
Your the best teacher ever
@tidobass6048
@tidobass6048 Жыл бұрын
I came up with a design for a horn enclosure just to see if I could do it and I love the fact that it plays windows and all down the same as up
@1sthawaiian11
@1sthawaiian11 Жыл бұрын
My dude if I could buy a horn enclosure box from you that would be dope your knowledge is precious. Love from the HI, Oahu G 🤙🏽
@fiolds350
@fiolds350 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation yet best.
@massivehertz3869
@massivehertz3869 3 жыл бұрын
Great video learned alot!
@dtaybrakin5450
@dtaybrakin5450 Жыл бұрын
Just learned something because of your last video I had to look more into this subject.
@michaelmack5494
@michaelmack5494 3 жыл бұрын
Boss channel and great information
@shawnbrooks8271
@shawnbrooks8271 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Question: for HF Mid/Sub Bassbox; 80-250,300 hertz range. Your thoughts on enclosure design in my van. All sizes and shapes welcomed from your experience to hit those frequencies best.
@Contact_Info
@Contact_Info Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Now I know what the horn enclosure does and why I see them in venues.
@rashad5286
@rashad5286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info man! Could you show us a vid of the horn in action ?
@gsd321123gh
@gsd321123gh 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro love it
@cabguy007
@cabguy007 3 жыл бұрын
So a horn port for 2/8 will make it sound like a pair of 12s a single 12 a single 15 what would you rate it as soundwise instead of a regular port ? Curious because I have four American Bass vfl 8's and I'm wondering if it'll sound louder or just as loud as 2 15's in a horn box versus a normal ported box
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a graph comparing the two. I use WINISD a lot but I don't recall it having an option for horn loaded woofers. I dont know of any that does? so what is the best type of speaker for a horn loaded woofer? would it be one that also works for an open baffle?
@jasondauzat1619
@jasondauzat1619 3 жыл бұрын
Good infi Mann, never saw a video describing it in real talk!!!
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 4 ай бұрын
BudgetBassHead did a video that displayed a 5th order enclosure. You made a very useful point about ported boxes controlling woofer excursion using tuning. Would you consider it reasonable to use the port cross section to make a horn based on the port instead of the driver?
@jeremybriscoe6663
@jeremybriscoe6663 9 ай бұрын
Last year I attempted to build a horned enclosure for 2 sdr 10’s, and I was amazed by the output. Hands down the loudest set of 10s I’ve ever heard.
@parkerbrittain772
@parkerbrittain772 3 ай бұрын
How did u calculate the box design after u modeled it
@anubisprince36
@anubisprince36 3 жыл бұрын
Horn vs 6th order for 8s. I have a dual slot and a 6th order built already. Curious if a horn enclosure would benefit me. Same environment. Same power. 2005 Chevy Trailblazer. Audiopipe Apmi2k.
@cheddarshredder6572
@cheddarshredder6572 3 жыл бұрын
Brother. Deffinantly dont keep it simple. Knowledge is power!
@botenhaa
@botenhaa 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt a lot. Thanks
@johnnycorn7225
@johnnycorn7225 2 жыл бұрын
So is the chamber behind the sub hole sealed and then fires into the folded horn walls on this design?
@JakeWuntaq
@JakeWuntaq 2 жыл бұрын
What program or calculations do you use to design your horn enclosures?
@TheTeamfreeup
@TheTeamfreeup 2 жыл бұрын
Would two sundown x8 v3 perform better in horn or bass reflex which box would be bigger ? Can these speakers work in both enclosures pros and cons if either
@Dmack434
@Dmack434 3 жыл бұрын
Whats up MB! So what about these different order enclosure? Like when they say 4th order or 5th order? Can you give some insight on these type of enclosures? Man I remember when I first subscribed you only had 100 some subscribers and now look at you! I'm proud to have watched you on your journey and thank you again for helping me! Much love !
@arturozarate1752
@arturozarate1752 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT information in your video. Your wood working skills seem at par to your knowledge of horn loading. You gained a subscriber. I agree with you on 8's! I'm yet to try 6's though. Your thoughts horn loading?
@MrBigR928
@MrBigR928 2 жыл бұрын
You got the gift bruh👍🏾
@erikbritz8095
@erikbritz8095 2 жыл бұрын
How can i calculate the tunning for a horn enclosure i might want to do it for my DD715 cause i use it as my home audio sub
@monterok006
@monterok006 2 жыл бұрын
what this means horn type has wider freq. bandwidth in tuning..? This is one of the best explaination, really love it
@gwlewis73
@gwlewis73 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation I need that two 8 box for my 2018 accord how can some one get in touch with you
@Bezzle.
@Bezzle. 3 жыл бұрын
If the ported enclosure gets higher meter results, at what point would a ported pass the horn enclosure in spl? Can you still feed a sub max rms wattage in a horn?
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 Жыл бұрын
Interesting information 🤔. Thanks heaps and cheers from Australia! Subbed and liked 👍
@EmotionRadio
@EmotionRadio Жыл бұрын
So for a Ford F-150 super crew, dual 8 inch setup, a horn enclosure would be best? Or rear facing port?
@ratrodo3113
@ratrodo3113 3 жыл бұрын
Could you build a box for 1 DC audio xl 10 dual 2 ohm? Can’t find specific specs for port area. Specs for box volume say 1 cu ft ported. I’ve heard this sub likes a lot of port. I emailed dc audio for more specs about an aero port and all they told me was a 4” port tuned at 34-35hz. I’m not opposed to going with a slot port, it’s in a box right now 1 cu ft with 14” of port area kerf ported, and there’s definitely some port noise. Let me know. Thanks for your time and keep up the great videos and information.
@rogermcclain8331
@rogermcclain8331 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use my pair of sundown x15 for a horn enclosure if so how big would the box be. Putting it in a Chevy express conversation van I have already remove third row seat
@damonstevens8317
@damonstevens8317 Жыл бұрын
New follower, just wondering how much does your box usually go for
@xmaxx5565
@xmaxx5565 3 жыл бұрын
What would a box for a mtx 9500 12 cost? I'd like the sub to face up and the port towards the hatch its in a foxbody so it can't be tall
@coreyd7060
@coreyd7060 Жыл бұрын
So for an Audio Legion 1600.1 mono amp running a 12" dual 2ohm Audio Legion Maximus wired to 1ohm... should I go ported or horn? Also what tuning would you recommend? Im just sitting on them until I have funds for build.
@KerryLNeely
@KerryLNeely 3 жыл бұрын
nice! well explained!
@jdstaley3710
@jdstaley3710 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@BigRonJ77
@BigRonJ77 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a sealed box as well as a push/pull (Isobaric) box? Thank you!
@perryharrison797
@perryharrison797 Жыл бұрын
This was great thanks man
@jonathanlarsen4771
@jonathanlarsen4771 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do a horn enclosure with 6.5 ct sounds meso and is a horn enclosure good truck builds since there isn't much area for the sound to bounce off of?
@michaelgarner2318
@michaelgarner2318 3 жыл бұрын
Hi bro love ur videos Keep it up
@drelinwood9969
@drelinwood9969 3 жыл бұрын
Looking into get me a horn enclosure wanted to know if it would work for lexus Gs350 12",
@RinksRides
@RinksRides 2 жыл бұрын
thx for explaining the horn, I'd actually prefer a horn or tapped horn enclosure over a 2nd or 4th order reflex for SQ.
@sojahsexpress3975
@sojahsexpress3975 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. I learn
@kennethbarber620
@kennethbarber620 2 жыл бұрын
Ok question single 12 orion hcca in a bow whats the best port u would suggest horn or slotted??
@nivedmaduro1229
@nivedmaduro1229 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video with this old but good subwoofer. 8 " Power acoustic reaper
@kennethmejia5452
@kennethmejia5452 2 жыл бұрын
Does a horn enclosure perform better for a crew cab than a porter enclocare?
@GP-fc7jv
@GP-fc7jv 9 ай бұрын
Back in the day there is what they call it the Klipsch horn I had one for a little while it was really old pretty amazing too
@faridgadimov5955
@faridgadimov5955 5 күн бұрын
Thank for rhis info
@rojobenavidez2658
@rojobenavidez2658 Жыл бұрын
thank you for make it simple
@kevinmack6136
@kevinmack6136 10 ай бұрын
MBE, does a horn load off the back of a (suv) the same as any other enclosure? And, what is bigger, a horn or 6th order enclosure?
@kylapimp7443
@kylapimp7443 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that. Good stuff
@optimusprimer4392
@optimusprimer4392 Жыл бұрын
Hey brother could you tell me what kind of glue you might use I've used gorilla wood glue and some other brands haven't been happy with some of them and what kind sheets of wood any information would be greatly appreciated keep stacking them up
@user-bq7ev3ro1m
@user-bq7ev3ro1m 10 ай бұрын
Can I use the horn enclosure for Pioneer TW-3002d2 Champion Series Pro?
@killabee623
@killabee623 2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking boxes.
@workingclassperson2124
@workingclassperson2124 3 жыл бұрын
Right on man, thanks.
@lol-ld3jh
@lol-ld3jh 3 жыл бұрын
where can i get a cut sheet for horn enclosure for L7 15?
@fishrrelaxing9361
@fishrrelaxing9361 2 жыл бұрын
Ok question though.. because of the lack of back pressure doesn’t it limit the power handling of the sub? In a simplistic form it’s more like a free air in these terms. I’ve never messed around with horns but it would seem to me that you would want the resonance wall as close to the back of the speakers as possible wo loosing cooling so that you can maintain responsiveness of said speaker on kick drum bass as well adding whatever momentary back pressure you can to keep the speaker from bottoming out.. I’m I correct in this thinking?
@Jamez84
@Jamez84 2 жыл бұрын
No, subs won't act like a free air in a folded horn design. A good way to describe it is a ported box where the ports long and narrows the closer to the woofer it gets. One of the biggest concepts in a folded horn design is that as the air get closer to the speaker in the port. The port size reduces increasing the air velocity, this increase in airspeed and is what makes the speaker efficiency increase. Just like a ported box, folded horns are usually tuned to the subs FS. But they will give you a frequency response more like a sealed box, but louder and more efficient. A good example of a horn design with little input and lots of output is the Tuba.
@jasonward5150
@jasonward5150 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate what size is the port on the horn box.
@austing8133
@austing8133 Жыл бұрын
What box do u suggest for bed of a buggy im running 2 kicker cvr 12s
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