Why Do People... Hate the Magic Kingdom?

[@an4189]

I think the hate is that it should be the best Disney park in the world. There is no excuse for building a worse version of a ride here, it has the biggest crowds, most space and brings in the most money of any Disney park. It should be treated like the flagship park with interesting and unique attractions that are the best of disney.

[@wemdoe]

Good point.

[@davids6898]

Problem is that will be impossible to ever achieve. Disneyland will always be the flagship Disney park for the simple reason it is the only park that Walt designed and stepped foot in. Magic Kingdom is cheapened because today’s imagineers do not put their best into it. Slapping an IP on something is just that. And Disneyland is cheapened for the same reason. If it weren’t for the fact of its history with Walt Disney it would be far inferior.

[@an4189]

@@davids6898 I agree to an extent on the history view of the parks, but economically and publicly (especially internationally) magic kingdom should be the most important park. However, even if it is an IP ride they put in the park, it should be something other parks look at and think we would love that in our park.

[@an4189]

@@wemdoelove Poseidon but even when he was trying to point out the good points it was always caveatted with this ride is actually better elsewhere.

[@LeftCoastDrones]

The undeserved popularity of Magic Kingdom is exactly the reason Disney doesn't feel the need to make it better. People will go to Orlando no matter what because they make it a weeks long vacation so there's no need to give 100% on it. Whereas Anaheim is mainly a locals park, so Disney feels pressure to make it as good as it can be or the locals will take their money elsewhere.

[@JW-cm2er]

I wouldn't say the Magic Kingdom is a bad park, but the experience of going there is NOT at all what it once was. Poor maintenance, overcrowding, and Genie+ are all very real reasons why many people that go there feel as if it's a ripoff.

[@weston407]

Overcrowding truly does make it bad. I went there last April and it was miserable. The heat is what it is - it’s central Florida - but the crowd was insufferable. Also, Genie+ is a convoluted and expensive pain in the ass.

[@MatecaCorp]

I’m so glad I was fortunate enough to have my first and only visit to WDW be right before the Chapek spiral really started. I barely have a desire to visit anymore.

[@phillips2683]

The only Disney parks I’ve been to has been the “World and Epcot...many times “.

[@MrMac1138]

@@weston407 Genie+ is easy to use in my experience and compare it to $300+ for Universal Express that doesn't even help you get on Hagrid's faster.

[@andrewc1199]

It's not magical when you're crammed in with thousands of other people

[@Chaogod1233]

"And ruin one of my favorite rides" I am with you on that brother. Its gonna be a very sad day when Dinosaur leaves us.

[@NinthShinigami]

Fr dude and I freaking bleed Indiana Jones. I don’t want it like this tho 😭

[@ScallywagBeowulf]

Has Dinosaur even been updated since it opened? Seems like every time I ride it nothing works properly and I’m just sitting in darkness the entire time without being able to see anything else. I know some people love it, but I really don’t think it’s that good a ride.

[@fightingarrow]

My 2nd favorite ride 😢

[@connor_who]

I loved Dinosaur and I’m sad I won’t get a chance to ride it again before it goes. It sucks that universal will have the monopoly on Dinosaur themed rides in the parks. I would have loved for Disney to go for a more current understanding of Dinosaur and educational route as an update to the land that the Jurassic license doesn’t allow over in Universal but alas that won’t be happening.

[@danshull1331]

Always preferred Indy over Dinosaur I’ll see myself out

[@mrjuanchoca4294]

The one thing that makes Disneyland superior to Magic Kingdom overall: California's weather is unmatched compared to Florida's unpredictable weather and humidity.

[@weston407]

I live in Orlando and I second that and I’ve never even been to Disneyland - it’s miserable here like 9 months out of the year 🥵🥵🥵

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Yeah, Disneyland weather is absolutely a lot better. The people are much nicer and better behaved too.

[@LeftCoastDrones]

Disneyland has less humidity, thus the churros are crunchier and tastier.

[@purplemist7]

​@@LeftCoastDronesNot to mention, no alligators!

[@LeftCoastDrones]

@@purplemist7 Yup.

[@lizgreer6888]

My Dad was 54 when I was born and had heart issues. At Magic Kingdom and Epcot there was plenty for us to ride or experience as a family. We went to Universal once and Dad spent most of the day sitting by himself waiting for us. We never went back because in that regard Universal was a waste of money. Disney will always hold a special place in my heart. It was a place all of us could have fun together. Dad died 6 years ago and Disney vacations are some of our fondest memories

[@jonleibow3604]

I had a similar experience at Cedar Point, it was all extreme thrill rides or nothing. Disney is tops in fun for the whole family.

[@edwardjones1482]

@@jonleibow3604 I see you guys are still Disney fans don’t let the stupid negativity influence you guys into hating something you loved your whole lives

[@grayrabbit2211]

@@edwardjones1482 Don't let the reality that Disney doesn't care about you anymore get in the way of your memories of better times.

[@grayrabbit2211]

I agree about Universal vs. Disney, although Disney's falling into that trap. Horizons was replaced with Mission:Space, complete with barf bags in each pod. Guardians of the Galaxy replaced World of Energy. 20,000 Leagues under the Sea was replaced with a very lame 7 Dwarfs coaster which was built for Asian bodies; always fun to watch Americans try to shoehorn themselves into those tiny seats and restraints.

[@Nr15121]

Universal has a lot of rides he can do especially studios tho ioa I agree

[@MagCynic]

Disney's current strategy: "PUT AN IP ON IT! MAKE IT LAME!"

[@emilyrhea5077]

MORE SCREEEEEEENS!

[@solcarlosofficial]

What’s the wrong with IP? If I go to Disney I want to be inside the movies I grew up with. I truly don’t understand the hate for IP.

[@MagCynic]

@@solcarlosofficial Relying on IPs is a creative shortcut for the parks. This shows in the final product. For example, far more creative input went into Maelstrom than it did for Frozen Ever After.

[@cosmicthunder25]

@@solcarlosofficial I think it's less the IP itself, but more so that they're retheming beloved attractions with modern IP as quick cash grab. See: Maelstrom, Splash Mountain, Great Movie Ride, ect. Also the fact that most of their IPs in recent years are bad

[@connorscanlan2167]

@@solcarlosofficial Because I don't want to ride "Pirates of the Caribbean" and see Jack Sparrow crammed in there. I want to see the world created by the ride, something unique and different. I can always go back to my favorite movies, but I want new experiences.

[@hyruleanraven81]

Finally visited Disneyland this year as I have only visited Disney World since my youth. I have to say, Disney puts more love into Disneyland. It was cleaner, more detailed, and better ride experiences. The dark rides are a major plus to Disneyland as those are the soul of the park. When Magic Kingdom began removing those rides, it destroyed the charm it once had. Loved the fact many of the hollywood studios rides were in Disneyland. Hollywood studios alone is wasted money.

[@aqilbinnoorazman365]

Agreed

[@James_Ford4815]

i went to disneyland for the first time in 20 years despite only living 45min away and just want to know what's up with every dark ride now having extreme neon colors everywhere.

[@ChrisA426]

You forgot the food in Disneyland is a million times better than the mass produced slop served to the masses at MK

[@TayWoode]

@@James_Ford4815do you mean the small rides like Peter Pan and Mr Toad etc? They’ve always been painted in neon with blacklights so it looks closer to the cartoon and a lot of it hides the machinery that doesn’t glow under the uv lights

[@sha2596]

What is this love of dark rides? It’s like people love dark internal people movers. I don’t find the lack of dark rides a problem at MK, I find the lack of thrilling rides a problem.

[@thebikewatcher9819]

Riding the monorail and/or ferryboat to the park is fine. However it's an absolute nightmare when leaving the park after the fireworks or at park closing.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Yeah agreed. I would rather just sit on a bench in the park than deal with the mass of people trying to leave. There are clearly way more people than the transportation was designed to handle.

[@flipcoin6301]

Exit crowds are worst at DisneylandParis. The mobs push and shove to squeeze onto buses or metro trains.

[@coppertopolo]

While I admire you coming to the 'defense' of the Magic Kingdom - I think most visitors to Orlando will agree that WDW is no longer the attraction it used to be. With the opening of Epic Universe, I think people will be putting the Universal Parks at the top of their list - and only visit WDW if they have time and money left over. BTW, I don't think it is necessary for you to keep repeating the phrase ' in my opinion ' - I think most of us realize that these videos ARE your opinion.

[@AJR-zg2py]

I'm 100% sure Disney is shitting itself as opening day for Epic Universe gest closer and closer.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Once the 2023 TEA report comes out, I think that there'll be an interesting discrepancy in attendance numbers between MK and Disneyland. Last summer was pretty light and this one seems to be shaping up to be much worse, if what travel agents are reporting is correct.

[@Jay-wk9xj]

Anybody that frequently visits both universal and disney knows that universal isn't even close to the quality of disney in any way... Except if you're talking about sickening screen rides and underwhelming rushed theming. But universal fans keep making the mistake of pretending, like universal even tries to achieve the same quality....They don't... their whole thing is Just to get the things open as fast as possible and then change them out every few years. They have surprisingly few legacy attractions that anybody cares about after the first few years.

[@cuttinol]

While I agree that Epic Universe will take a good chunk of Disney's market share, to say that people will ONLY go to Disney if they have time left is...delusional. The target audience of the fantastical and thrilling Epic Universe is very different than the target audience of Disney's princess and cutesy theme. Let's also be aware that Epic Universe is a 2 day at most singular park, there will be plenty of time for family's on week long vacations to split their time between the 2 parks.

[@AJR-zg2py]

@@Jay-wk9xj But Epic Universe could open the door for Universal in a significant way - because lots of people keep getting priced out of WDW each year and go to Universal instead. WDW is increasingly becoming a park for the rich now.

[@LoveStallion]

Growing up going to Disneyland, the Matterhorn coming into view was the big tease. I always loved that feeling hitting Harbor Blvd. from Ball Rd. Plus, you can see the Matterhorn from the 57 freeway.

[@NinthShinigami]

The hate is overblown imo, but I can see why people don’t like it as much. When you compare it to Disneyland, it’s clear that’s got a little more love from the company than Magic Kingdom. The rides primarily, but also just how preserved it’s been, even in its theming. Magic Kingdom’s Fantasyland is pretty boring when you see how Disneyland has theirs. Also, the crowds have gotten so insane as of late. Last time I went I only got to do like 5 or 6 rides tops 💀 as a kid we coulda gotten the whole park done in a day, but not anymore. So poor crowd management is another issue… I still enjoy all the neat little details tho, like the ones you pointed out here :)

[@branballistick]

Why I hate it is that it's so miserable to get to (I don't think I've ever ridden the monorail where it didn't stop on the track for 10 minutes). Also it's SO FULL of strollers it's obnoxious and ruins the charm. I'm an AP holder and the only time I go to MK is if someone is visiting and bribes me lol

[@charliemacsart]

Here's hoping the huge expansion will help solve crowds, but according to rumors, the "largest expansion in MK history" is only going to have like four rides, one of which is a clone from California, and then they're also potentially rethemeing the entirety of Frontierland and Liberty Square, which would close off a huge chunk of the park, AND they may be filling in the Rivers of America, which gets rid of two attractions right there. I have no clue how closing rides and spending a decade just to build four is gonna solve capacity issues lmao

[@AdamYJ]

If you can go to both of them to the extent that you can compare them, you're pretty lucky.

[@MatecaCorp]

As Rolly Crump said, “It was a lot of good architectural pieces, but I looked at that and thought to myself, ‘What the hell is going on here?’ Disneyland has charm. Disneyland freaking hugs you and kisses you! When you go to Disney World and you see the castle, you want to genuflect ... and that disturbed me.” While I don’t agree with him fully, I do think MK is really missing that personal touch, and the good qualities are ruined by the horrendous overcrowding.

[@ZeranZeran]

Disneyland AND Disney world seriously need a park capacity limit, and to just start turning people away or saying "PARK IS NOW FULL, TRY AGAIN IN 4 HOURS" - There is not enough space, and even if there was no ride could run enough to get 15,000 people through in a few hours. There seems to be a serious lack of communication and common sense from Disney Parks and corporate. It's going down fast.

[@bassjasinski]

Magic Kingdom does need to address stroller parking.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I agree, no other park has stroller issues like MK. Disneyland certainly doesn't.

[@yuriib5483]

@@PoseidonEntertainment you mean like a hella dense park with huge amount of people with KIDS at DISNEY park? might as well ban kids for nostalgia farming disney adults and geriatrics on scooters huh

[@InchonDM]

@@yuriib5483 ...what? What is this weird aggression? They're saying that the park needs to organize itself better to handle the strollers. If it was an unavoidable problem then Disneyland would have it as well and indeed worse, with its smaller footprint. That it doesn't suggests WDW has organizing tuneups to do.

[@chumley04]

Disney: slap an IP on this low budget ride, get merch moola Universal: use this IP to create a detailed world and immerse the audience, get merch moola

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Disney rides aren't low budget, which is concerning, because they often feel like they are regardless.

[@chumley04]

@@PoseidonEntertainment good point actually 😐

[@aggiesjc]

What does the term IP mean, please?

[@PatThePerson]

@@aggiesjcintellectual property Toy Story Moana Shrek Minions Etc etc

[@aggiesjc]

@@PatThePerson Thank you -- I figured it meant something like that. Disney never misses an opportunity to hammer every angle of their parks and rides with movie theming.

[@traciecombs7030]

Animal Kingdom is our favorite park! It has the perfect mix of rides, shows, streetmoshere, and great food- not to mention animal experiences & animation classes. Every detail is meticulously executed. With the subtle addition of Joe Rohde on the payroll again it seems they are committed to making this expansion as smooth as possible. (People were very opposed to pandora & look what we got!)

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I still hate the idea of removing Dinoland, but I can't complain about Rohde being back. It still remains to be seen how much of a role he will have though.

[@dhi1145]

@@PoseidonEntertainmentIf they retheme DinoLand to South America, I think it would be really clever to keep some version of Dinosaur intact. Carnotaurus is a South American animal!

[@grayrabbit2211]

@@PoseidonEntertainment I don't have a problem with them getting rid of Dinoland as it was always poorly implemented, but they should use the opportunity for something big and major...but they're not. The right thing would have been to keep the dinosaur theming and go over-the-top with it.

[@AdamYJ]

"If you have Disneyland, why go to Magic Kingdom"? Proximity? Have we forgotten that proximity is a thing? I'm on the East Coast. Specifically New York State. So, I'm a lot more likely to visit Magic Kingdom at Disney World than ever set foot in the State of California. So, I'll take what I can get. Hell, Disney could set up a rinky-dink fake Disney park in an abandoned mall in Massachusetts or something and I'd be happy with it because I'd be more likely to visit that than either Florida or California.

[@weston407]

I’ve lived in central Florida my whole life and haven’t been to Disneyland for that reason - I would love to visit it one day though

[@RustyX2010]

@@weston407 If you love huge crowds of people and nowhere to walk cause it's so crowded everyday then you'll love Disneyland.

[@RoseRitonya]

@@RustyX2010 Worst part from my memory is in Adventureland right by the treehouse. Super crowded with people walking to New Orleans Square from Frontierland, and people walking through Adventureland to get to Tomorrowland.

[@RustyX2010]

@@RoseRitonya Or right before they built the Star Wars part there were billboards up showing the new layout and area was super crowded with people taking pictures of the "Coming Soon" signs.

[@LeftCoastDrones]

@@weston407 Unlike Orlando, Anaheim actually has an off season. So if you come in January/February, the crowds are very minimal.

[@aledandrian]

Disneyland is certainly the better park in many ways but Magic Kingdom’s Space Mountain is my favorite Disney attraction of all time

[@FiestaTX17]

Nothing will ever top riding Carousel of Progress in MK. One of my favorite attractions with the best original song, it’s a must every time I’m at the park.

[@usforsarah]

Too bad Trump is in it. It ruins the experience to see that orange buffoon.

[@Spoonfight]

The best part of MK is that you can take a vintage wooden boat from the Polynesian to get there. Such a cool way to arrive at the park. I also appreciate that you can go in and ride the Haunted Mansion all year. Between the closures for the overlay and the overlay itself, riding OG haunted Mansion at DL is actually pretty difficult for a visitor

[@cosmicthunder25]

If you're staying at an MK resort then the transportation is great. unfortunately though if you're coming from off property or driving from another resort, getting there and back from the ttc is a nightmare with crowds and lines

[@Spoonfight]

@@cosmicthunder25 we were not staying at that resort. Anyone can walk through and use the transportation if they want to. It does take time compared to DL, but we enjoyed the experience.

[@cosmicthunder25]

@@Spoonfight that is true, though walking access from Poly to ttc was blocked when I was there last fall due to construction of the giant ugly hotel they're building there

[@dhi1145]

I think MK has something that none of the other parks do: location. It’s in this secluded, swampy forest. Kind of an exotic environment already. And then you see this castle in the distance, and as you said, that builds anticipation.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I agree. The surrounding area is really important to the experience. I also enjoy leaving the park for a bit and exploring the area for food and going back later in the night.

[@meaghanbrown4410]

This also benefits the air quality too. As someone with minor asthma, the congestion around Disneyland was terrible for me and I got a terrible cough from it.

[@brigitterose8989]

I think people need to realise that not everyone is a local and if you’re travelling 16+ hours to get to the USA, and you want to go to Disney, you’re going to pick the park/s that have the most to offer size wise. As an Australian who has been to both, I love Disneyland but for pure value - Disney World was my pick

[@deadmanjones9077]

For me, the dealbreaker about Magic Kingdom is the water quality (and its nearby hotels, including the Contemporary). It tastes so awful and ruins the fountain beverages as well. Tried to get some tap water, awful. Tried to get a Coke from Casey's Corner, awful. You'd have to always drink bottled beverages to even make it through the park. Not to mention the whole Genie+ experience has left a bad taste in my mouth, especially for rides in Magic Kingdom itself. Nothing worse than having to pay an additional Lightning Lane fee for a ride you want to go on, only for it to shut down for rain. Worst part, I tried doing it AGAIN on the last day, but yet again it rained. At least I got refunded for that, but it still sucks. On a recent visit to the resort, I realized how much I like World Showcase. If I had to do it again, I'd probably spend most of my time in Epcot, but unfortunately would have to take a couple trips to Magic Kingdom simply cause there's just too much material you have to do there (and maybe a half-day at Hollywood Studios, skipping Animal Kingdom).

[@KronoGarrett]

As a Great Lakes native who tried to live in Brevard for 18 months and had the miserable experience of dealing with Central Floridian tap water...there is something *wrong* with the water there.

[@cosmicthunder25]

I've never had a problem with it. It tastes different, but not undrinkable

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I can't say that I dislike Florida water. If you're used to it, you're used to it

[@CoolioJoe100]

It's just Florida water, bruh. It'll make you stronger. But fr, the first time my girlfriend and I had Florida water from a water fountain we were kind of scared to drink it because we didn't know that's just how it tastes here haha

[@deadmanjones9077]

@@PoseidonEntertainment Well my problem is that it tastes awful to me. It doesn't even affect the rest of the resort; the water at any other park or hotel on-site tasted perfectly fine. There must be something funky about the opening day places.

[@colebuckon3856]

I think that part of the reason that Magic Kingdom gets so much hate is that, at least from my experience, it is the Disney World park that feels the most hamstrung by the replacement of FastPass with Genie+. In other parks, you may only ride 4 or 5 attractions known a day, but they have few enough attractions that you probably got to ride most of what you wanted to anyway, and you finish early enough to go to Disney Springs or hop to Epcot for dinner. In Magic Kingdom, you only ride 4 or 5 attractions if you spend all day there and are willing to walk away from the most in-demand rides, and you end up feeling like you barely did anything, as there is so much stuff you had to skip. It’s to the point where you really need to pay obscene money for one of those guided tours just to get the most out of a single day.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

When I went to update my footage of the park the other day, it wasn't too busy but Winnie the Pooh had a 60 minute wait. That's the perfect example of how Genie+ just destroys the lines.

[@nicoledenel]

This was my experience. I had to wait almost 3hrs for space mountain and other rides were almost 1hr 30 min wait. Went last year with my sister to Animal Kingdom and the longest we waited in a line was 45 min

[@jonathanhawks4676]

I think people have to really come to grips that without genie plus you're not going to get anything done in the park to make it feel worth it. If you can master genie plus you get so much more accomplished. Spend the time to understand the app but while it sounds weird, spending the extra money for genie plus will make your day more enjoyable.

[@cryptiddy]

@@jonathanhawks4676thats the problem. We shouldn't have to pay a premium just to be able to enjoy the park at all on top of the ticket. It should just be included in the ticket price at that point. Otherwise a ticket on its own is actually kind of worthless.

[@M50A1]

​@@jonathanhawks4676You are the exact type of person that enables predatory tactics like this. Get a grip.

[@TrashComments]

While I don’t hate MK and I think the hate is over-excessive, I can agree that it has its ups and downs (mostly downs throughout the past few years), and I can see why people prefer Disneyland more nowadays.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Under the policies, I do think it's still a fun park. I just wish that it got more meaningful investment.

[@kalaoahaole]

DL is Walt's ONLY park and the REAL Magic Kingdom. Walking in his footsteps is priceless.

[@LAlawyer]

As someone who has visited Disneyland for years and just made the trip to Epcot for the first time, I, respectfully, think you’re being incredibly dismissive of how great Epcot is.

[@davidd577u]

Yeah Epcot is great. MK is the worst

[@stephenraeburn3263]

HEY PE - thanks for another great video essay. I absolutely love what you do! But I answered this question before even watching the video and you never explored the #1 reason in my mind: the crowds!!! I don't know when you got your b-role, but I cannot remember the last time I was in MK without it being shoulder to shoulder. When you add all of the context of your video together, and then wait in line on average 45-60 minutes to experience any of said attractions, plus an hour wait to get your hotdog at Casey's Corner, then a 30 minute wait to find a table to eat, then another hour wait for an attraction, plus a 20 minute wait to buy your souvenir, and a 30-60 minute wait to get on transportation simply to leave the park: you've realized that you've spent close to $200 to dedicate more than 80% of your day to waiting in lines. It leaves me with a feeling or defeat and resentment, and that is why MK is my least favorite park. But Hate?? I don't think I'll ever "hate" a Disney park.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

When have you been going? The summer was pretty dead for WDW last year and travel agents seem to indicate that this year will be worse judging from the lack of interest that they're seeing. Fall appears to be the busy time for the parks in Florida now.

[@stephenraeburn3263]

@@PoseidonEntertainment I tend to visit the central Florida area during the autumn, Christmas/New Years, or at Easter hahahaha I know, I deserve the crowds LOL but if what you say is true I will have to test the heat and try vacationing this summer instead.

[@grayrabbit2211]

The Disney parks parking lots have been very quiet in the past couple of years. VERY quiet. Even driving through on holiday weekends, they're nowhere near as full as they used to be.

[@boit7039]

Splash mountain in FL also had more critters and scenes in the outside parts. When I rode the one at Disneyland I was surprised that the outdoor sections just had fake rock work. I hope they add stuff during the re-theme

[@damianstellabott3613]

My issue with Magic Kingdom is that it used to be soooo much better. When I visited a few years ago it just made me sad. I could see remnants of things I remembered that were really cool and unique and represented the pinnacle of what WDP was capable of , but are now gone and replaced with stuff that is boring and uninspired.

[@emvvehicles_8]

The Walt Disney world railroad is bare bones compared to the Disneyland Railroad, where’s the Grand Canyon and Primeval World? And the fact we get to ride through it’s a small world, not to mention the additional tunnels, bridges, trestles, and lush vegetation that fits the theming to the land you go through, and there’s one additional stop at Tomorrowland so you don’t have to walk as far showing how good the walkability is in the park.

[@pierce7993]

Anyone who seriously thinks Magic Kingdom is the worst Disney park has clearly never been to DCA 1.0 or Disney Studios Paris.

[@charliemacsart]

Don't you mean "Disney Adventure World Park"? lmao

[@pierce7993]

@@charliemacsart That name is a nothing burger, lol. It's not going to fix the park at all.

[@charliemacsart]

@@pierce7993 I know, it's such a bad name lol

[@officialmonarchmusic]

I don’t think that people really mean that. This is the name for worst park in FLORIDA, or the worst one in AMERICA at the most

[@BRUnruhe]

DCA 1.0 was "unique" (putting it as positive as I can).

[@Jay_one]

I don’t know if anyone has ever mentioned it but I love the choice of background music on these videos.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I always put a lot of effort into trying to find something that fits

[@Jay_one]

@@PoseidonEntertainment i appreciate the effort!

[@Canadian_Guy_82]

I've never been to Disneyland but hope to in the next year or so.. but I absolutely LOVED Magic Kingdom when I went there for my first time in 2022... with no basis for comparison I totally felt the magic and it made me feel like a kid again. Pirates was easily my favourite ride.. which makes me look forward to Disneyland even more since I hear it's longer and better!!

[@officialmonarchmusic]

Disneyland arguably blows MK out of the water! I hope you enjoy it, my favorite ride is also Pirates… in Disneyland. It should be noted that this is all comparison. No Disney park (Besides MAAYYBEEE Walt Disney Studios in Paris) is outright bad, it’s just not as good as others, or how it was before. But yes, the park is still amazing

[@Canadian_Guy_82]

@@officialmonarchmusic That's pretty much what I hear from everyone lol.. which makes me pretty pumped for Disneyland. I was going to go in Dec of this year.. but ended up pulling the trigger on another Florida trip to do Busch Gardens Tampa, Sea World, Kennedy Space center and some other things I missed out on in 2022.. but rest assured Disneyland with be very soon.. before I go to Epic Universe in 2025 :D Then next on my bucket list is Disney Sea in Tokyo.. which looks absolutely INCREDIBLE!!!

[@MilkyWay-gi8km]

I love Disneyland so much more than WDW in general, you really feel the love in Disneyland park

[@WiiDude83]

I went within the last year and I think for me out of the 4 parks we went to, (both universals, Magic Kingdom and Epcot) Magic Kingdom was easily the least liked. The biggest reason why I can easily identify is ride condition. Its extremely clear the rides are not being well maintained and many parts of animatronics and lighting ques just flat out don't work. You see it the most in fantasy land. And no joke, every single omni mover we went on stopped mid ride at least twice. Haunted mansion being the king with 6 times...in one ride. That combined with the long wait times, large crowds and not many rides for older adults, it leaves the park feeling very...hollow. And as mentioned, I don't like how long it takes to get to the park itself, especially if your off property as having to go through multiple monorails eats a lot of time. Doubly stressful if your one of the first groups for say Tron. That and your paying Disney prices which just adds to the bafflingness of how the park is in that rough of shape.

[@WiiDude83]

​@enchantingkatie I do get that. At the same time though, when it happens on every omni mover ride usually multiple times during a single ride it does zap you out of it completely. I dont know if I was just unlucky but the amount of times it happen during my trip felt way higher than similar rides at other parks.

[@ageoflove1980]

Insanely crowded, super expensive, predatory fastpass system, hardly any stand out rides, IP's milked dry over decades... To name a few? They should restrict the number of tickets that are sold on a single day to keep crowds under control and bring back the complimentary fastpass system, at the least. Whats the point at looking at individual rides if everything around it is just terrible? Plus, I dont think " forcing" you through 5 star $600/night hotels on your way to the entrance is very customer friendly. Showing the peasants a glimpse of a better experience really starts your day on the wrong foot, especially since you've already spend an arm and a leg to be there in the first place. But sure, that opportunity to buy a mediocre $13 hotdog brings back that warm and fuzzy feeling.

[@cosmicthunder25]

Even with the reservation system crowds were bad

[@ageoflove1980]

@@cosmicthunder25 Just saying that Disney themselves are in full control of how many people a day get access to their parks.

[@therealventures]

Wdw is insane lol

[@charliemacsart]

I think out of any Disney park, MK could probably get away with having a reservation system. It's majorly a tourist park, so people are already planning their trips out in advance. If they limit the amount of guests it could really help the park. Maybe make it so annual passholders don't need a reservation too though, so that way locals have a reason to keep buying their annual passes?

[@ageoflove1980]

@@charliemacsart If you look at Disney as an "entertainment venue" which it essentially is, just like a football stadium or a theatre , limiting capacity just make sense. You just have to look at the amount of rides + daily capacity divided by the total attendance to get reasonable waiting times. Sure you can build a 100k capacity theatre and just put a gigantic screen above the stage so the people in the back can still see the show, but its just a worse experince all around.

[@JeffreyDickinson]

The two superior elements of Disneyland’s Mansion are the stretching room going down and the Holiday overlay. Tokyo resolved the latter, but the going down adds a lot to the scene. I agree with Small World, mainly because of the lack of a flume. We always called The Magic Kindom Bizarro-Disneyland.

[@cryptiddy]

the other ones don't have the stretching room?! Thats a shame but I get why, its literally an entire room thats an elevator. Its just such a memorable part of the experience though, imo

[@tufab3494]

I absolutely LOVED this kind of positive video. Do more of those if you can, please! I've been less into your videos talking about Disney recently because I was starting to see too many negatives on Disney stuff, so I think that also bringing positive subjects (even if attached to nostalgia) helps bring more balance to the channel. Been watching your videos for like 2 years now and they are truly something else. Greetings from Brazil!

[@barrythompson6936]

Everyone knows Disney is failing. Both economically and entertainment wise. Prices are beyond most people and families. Walt would be so very sad.

[@dimentioo]

will forever be devastated that i didn’t get to visit magic kingdom in its prime. i have no desire to visit it anymore when in my opinion disneyland is so much better and closer lol

[@BRUnruhe]

Disneyland's Fantasyland alone is so much better.

[@Glitche0275]

As an Epcot fan, I can answer your question about why I still find enjoyment in the park. I love the culture aspects the World Showcase pavilions (sans the Norway one being slathered in Frozen IP). The Food and Wine Festival is always great dining. Also, the aquarium is 👌. I'll be making the trip next week, so I'll get to see where they pushed all the dirt, and hopefully my opinion won't change too much.

[@SpaceShot]

The sad part for me is that i feel like corporate is trying to make Disneyland more like the Florida parks while those in Anaheim operations are struggling to resist.

[@SpaceShot]

As someone who grew up in Anaheim but had the opportunity to visit and explore both resorts, I ended up pleasantly surprised as to how this was a candid comparison between Disneyland and Magic Kingdom. Living on the East Coast now, I've met so many Disney fans whose review of the two comes down to "four Parks... so big". You refreshingly nailed again and again why I still consider Disneyland the better park. Your review here is factual and well researched. I found myself finding nothing I could disagree with, even when you made great points about attractions done better (or at least different) at MK. I had to admit any difference in feeling I had was Anaheim bias. Personally I think overall, the Florida resort has been catching up on overall attractions. It wasn't that long ago that Florida was shockingly empty compared to the density of DLR. That has been changing, but you did point out that it does so at the cost of its soul. Epcot and Studios essentially have no theme anymore and Animal Kingdom is heading that direction. Guests certainly do vote with their wallet and attendance. Beloved classic original attractions with charm often lie empty while attractions based on IP are getting crowds. So Disney follows and will never make anything "Parks Original" ever again. Disneyland's PeopleMover is a great loss, but at least it was the last gasp of local Imagineers trying to do the right thing and add more kinetics to the land, but not being given the ability to do so correctly. At the same time, they probably were overeager and created something that couldn't stand up to maintenance. They almost did that with Indy. And while it is unfortunate to see Dinosaur is likely going to change to Indy, at least Florida will get a working version (at first). Anaheim's always has some (or many) show pieces broken (some permanently) because it was such a complicated attraction eager to be a unique experience. As you can imagine, I came down on the side of Anaheim's Space Mountain, but I respect that nothing you said was incorrect about the attractions. Thank you for this treasured love letter to both parks.

[@itsEFlyX]

Watching your videos is like having your own guided tour through the parks. Thank you for your service!

[@nanszoo3092]

I've been to WDW more times than I can count and never noticed the time-travel transitions from one land to another or the dates serving as building numbers. If I ever get back there again, I will be looking forward to seeing those for the first time and pointing them out to whoever is with me. As someone who knew how to "Do Disney" to maximize the experience within a pre-determined budget (for the most part), I love finding out new things about my favorite place. I was 7 on my first trip the year it opened and although I miss some things that are gone, I do enjoy some of the changes as well. At this point, I don't know if I will ever be able to visit the parks again, but if I ever get the chance to, I probably will. For now, I am traveling via KZbin and finding joy by visiting my favorite place through these videos.

[@intercepter54]

Hey Poseidon entertainment. I loved the video today and how you attempted to portray all sides to this issue fairly. I’m glad that there are KZbinrs like you who try to look at all perspectives of these parks to give the most fair and nuanced opinion on the topic. We don’t have enough people like you in the theme park space and I can’t wait to see what you do next! 🔥

[@mikefrombuffalo]

I strongly agree that Haunted Mansion in Magic Kingdom is better than the one in Disneyland. The scale at Disneyland feels bigger to me however, the Magic Kingdom version just has more both in the queue and within the attraction

[@sterospa]

Great video! Space mountain today may seem lame to people but to me it's one of the best ever. When I was a kid it was as amazing. From the que to the ride it has always been one of my favorites.

[@dandrnachmusic]

Love all your videos man but... we just got back from California, we live in Orlando, and prefer Magic Kingdom to Disneyland. We loved DL but when we went back to MK it just flowed better. Can't wait for more videos.

[@SciFi2285]

Magic Kingdom is the unfortunate "middle child" of the Disneyland clones. The only one built between 1955 and 1983. It lacks the charm and history of the original. And subsequent clones in Japan, France, and China basically had the benefit of learning from all of MK's mistakes. Making it the odd one out.

[@NASCARDAWGYT]

Disney world still holds a place in my heart due to me not visiting Disneyland until I was 14. Also growing up in the Atlanta area, we always would drive down. Magic kingdom was always the first and last park we did to bookmark the trip and we did that last December for Christmas and I swear, I felt 10 again. Idk if it’s nostalgia blinding me from some of these problems or I just genuinely enjoyed it. Probably just take this opinion with a grain of salt since I don’t go every year, but I loved magic kingdom still.

[@dantemercer444]

Thank you for talking about the scents! No one talks about those and its my favourite part of Pirates bumping it up HUGE in points imo.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Which makes me wonder, why not bring them to Disneyland's Pirates? Seems like a weird discrepancy.

[@cryptiddy]

@@PoseidonEntertainmentnot sure what you are talking about, its bromine and they've used it at DL forever as well.

[@georgelucas2571]

I know people give Disneyland a lot of crap these days (and a lot of it is deserved) but it’s still undeniably the best Disney Park in the US. With how small it is compared to Walt Disney World, it manages to have more rides and entertainment overall. There’s no need for 4 separate parks because you can do everything you want in one day at Disneyland. I could enjoy a whole week at Disneyland whereas I couldn’t spend an entire day in a park like Epcot or Animal Kingdom. Also the weather in Florida is absolutely terrible.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Agreed. When I travel to Disneyland, it's often for a week and I never really get tired of it. The few attractions that I like at DCA are a plus, but I spend most of my time in Disneyland.

[@CarolCap131]

Agree completely. We just came back from a five night visit to Disneyland/California adventure. Although the arrival day we only rode about four t attractions and had dinner , the other four days we did rope drop and stayed til at least 11 or midnight. And that is at 76. The ease of going from park to park and land to land is just effortless and the weather really helps. We had a couple of rainy days, a couple of very sunny days where grizzly peak was very welcome and a middle of the road weather day but all better than most Florida weather! I’ve just had days when making it around Epcot was a slog or even up the hill to tron was tough but I just felt the variety in close proximity in California couldn’t be beat. We even watched fireworks from a bench near small world and couldn’t help comparing it with the pushing and shoving at magic kingdom.

[@LeftCoastDrones]

Also Disneyland has the better version of Fantasmic which wasn't mentioned in the video.

[@iseewood]

Disney World fans are really missing out if they don't think they need to visit Disneyland Resort. Disneyland is so packed with attractions that it takes a minimum of two days to do all of them. You add in DCA and it's like 3 parks vs Florida's 4. The ease of accessing Downtown Disney, the two parks and all the hotels all within walking distance can't be understated. It's so much more convenient. And California weather is so much more comfortable than Florida's year round. But I still do love visiting Disney World, but if I had to choose my favorite, it would be Disneyland Resort.

[@frojo9]

Thank you so much for pointing this out. Yes, there are a lot of things that are going wrong at Disney but the outward hatred is a trend. A trend that snowballs because people love doomscrolling so it gets clicks, videos that get clicks incentivize more videos that get clicks. Universal Studios Florida is SO BAD for the money but Disney being bad overshadows it so people make videos about that instead. (Also Islands of Adventure is right there and people forget how lame the other gate is)

[@Planetvorton]

Yeah, I went to Disney World a couple weeks ago, and I never want to visit a Disney theme park again. I’ll still watch videos like yours, though!

[@danielbspinola]

Me too. Went 7 times in different years, but won't come back. Disney destroyed itself.

[@RustyX2010]

Me too and I haven't been back to Disneyland since 2014.

[@Spamghetti]

When I went to Disney World for the first time (as a lifelong california resident) I was both blown away and deeply dissatisfied with my experience with the parks. Epcott was this place I'd only ever heard of from my father in stories of him going as a kid, and seeing it for myself made me relive old childhood fantasies of going. For my mother and I who were there it was a grand experience in food. We did a park a day over the course of 5 days, and I won't go into the whole trip but magic kingdom ended up being the only park we left early. That was due to the fact that 1. It was packed to the brim 2. I didn't fit in half the rides as a 6'4" young man. I think it pales in comparison to disneyworld, and for my birthday this year I'll be at tokyo disney, so if I remember I'll try and update this comment with my thoughts from there.

[@RedReVenge007]

Epic Universe will be the downfall of Disney!

[@abp1400]

It's gonna be great. It will force Disney to "compete or die"

[@lalalol36]

It won't be.

[@RedReVenge007]

@@lalalol36 it already has

[@Marden04]

I'm pretty confident lands based around "How to Train Your Dragon" and 1930s monster films aren't making anyone worry.

[@FortMiseryGaming]

100% agree

[@toyaliens]

Tomorrowland, Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise, HOP all make MK great

[@alex47927]

I did enjoy the more positive tone of this video! Although I agree with most of your criticisms of the direction Disney has taken its parks, I still enjoy the parks immensely. And the fun I’ve had at the parks is what made me interested in your type of content in the first place. It’s always great to have a reminder of why I keep going to the parks and recognize the impressive theming, rides, and experiences!

[@BrerOswald]

Magic Kingdom is still the best park at WDW, but losing Splash really was a big blow. It really was “our Pirates” compared to DL. TBA might end up okay, but the differences between the Florida and California versions won’t be as noticeable as before. It also seems more geared to the Disney + show.

[@therealventures]

I think Animal Kingdom is the best out of the bunch. I feel like the other 3 have serious work to be done. Animal Kingdom too, but not as bad as the other parks when it comes to maintenance.

[@cosmicthunder25]

@@therealventures Animal Kingdom is the best in terms of cohesive theming but in terms of attractions it's by far the worst. Other than Avatar and Safaris there's not really any good attractions

[@therealventures]

@cosmicthunder25 Yeah, it needs more attractions or activities, but it's the themeing I love the most about the park!

[@officialmonarchmusic]

@@cosmicthunder25I think it has a slightly better attraction lineup then Hollywood Studios. Avatar, Dinosaur, Safari, Expedition Everest… It’s perfect Disney and theming all around

[@cosmicthunder25]

@@officialmonarchmusic expedition Everest is just incomplete without a working yeti, though I agree the theming is best at AK. But HS has the 3 Star Wars rides, Twilight Zone, Rockin Roller Coaster, Toy Story Mania, Muppet Vision, Indiana Jones, Fantasmic,

[@DustinKlein-l1r]

Love your videos, creative and well produced. The music is so relaxing and appropriate. Bravo!

[@Anynom]

Visited Disneyland last year and struck how much better than WDW in many waysm

[@dermusikman]

Haven’t been to Disneyland’s Haunted Mansion in 30+ years, but felt pretty strongly that MK’s version was superior. Glad to see that suspicion confirmed! Thanks for the thoughtful videos!

[@therealventures]

Im a floridian, and I've not been to DL, but from the plenty of videos I've seen of DL and comparing it to MK, DL is better. MK is too big with little to offer for its heavy crowds, the park is HOT literally 😂 little trees or cover. They need to add more rides and take away VQ!

[@grayrabbit2211]

Same for all of the "new" things Disney's rolled out in the Florida parks. It's obvious they were designed by California people because there's no shade, no trees, and nowhere to sit and cool off.

[@cryptiddy]

@@grayrabbit2211lmao is that why the California park has plenty of all of those things? 😂 Tell us you've never been to California without telling us

[@hypnagogue]

W for picking florida space mountain as ur fav. that ride has a unique dated charm to it but in the best way. i hope they never retheme it and mess it up bc it’s perfect

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I like the ending hallway too, especially the Horizons reference. It's a vibe that the rest of Tomorrowland needs to get on board with.

[@ravewulf]

100% agree with it having the best version of Space Mountain in particular. The ride being a bit rougher and less refined is part of the experience and what makes it enjoyable. The atmosphere of the queue and its stellar background music is another highlight along with the counterpart dioramas as you exit.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Yeah, I would love if Tomorrowland embraced the sci-fi aesthetic of its post-show walkway.

[@johncordani3527]

Nice video. Glad to see a balanced perspective on WDW. One additional consideration in terms of comparing MK to Disneyland is Cinderella's Castle versus Sleeping Beauty's Castle. The MK version is superior because, while both have some internal storytelling elements, MK's version has Cinderella's Royal Table. While expensive, it is a unqiue and well-themed experience, especially good for kids, and pretty good food for the adults.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I haven't been, but, like all things MK, I've heard the food is awful lol

[@syntheticfox_real]

“I don’t understand why people enjoy going to EPCOT at all anymore.” Oooooooh this one’s for me. EPCOT actually is arguably my favorite park, not because of the rides (though they play a part), but because of how its planned and the history behind it. I’m getting my graduate degree in Urban and Regional Planning, and EPCOT has always fascinated me because of my love for planning human spaces. EPCOT’s history as a Garden Movement city shows its problems… some really major… but EPCOT always has been the most fascinating because it represents a continual effort towards international cooperation and planning for humans and communities. Its one of the few parks in the US where if you pay attention to it enough, you begin learning a lot more than just what’s on Living with the Land and such. The whole park is a unique experience itself BECAUSE of its history and clear efforts baked in by Walt himself as part of his original EPCOT vision.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

That's why I don't like the park though. Iger is working hard to erase the history of the park, turning it into another "Disney Adventure World" with some vague, "magic of possibility" corporate buzzphase flavor.

[@Gabonro]

13:05 Just went to Disneyland recently, and they have those scents included on Disneyland pirates. I assumed it was a Disneyland only thing since is been years since I went to WDW, but maybe they updated all of them. They may have also modified the Disneyland ship reveal as well since it seemed more epic to me than WDW over 20 years ago, but thats childhood memories vs recent adult experience.

[@cryptiddy]

Fun fact, all the water for rides at all Disney parks use bromine instead of chlorine. You can smell it at Pirates because its all indoors and traps the scent

[@Rayleonard13]

27:12 "(replacing Tomorrowland) with something sleek and a lot more Color" My guy they literally painted EVERYTHING white with some secondary elements having light shade of blue and ripped out all the colorful lightning at night

[@cosmicthunder25]

2000s tomorrowland was so much nicer

[@charliemacsart]

Wait they got rid of the night color?? When?? I was there in January 2023 and I swear the color was still there, though I wasn't in Tomorrowland at night for very long so I may have not noticed

[@ftrwrwbg]

His tastes are always really shocking to me lol. Loves and wants to keep the carousel of progress but Buzz Lightyear can be replaced.

[@charliemacsart]

@@ftrwrwbg Carousel of Progress is a classic though, and the only attraction at WDW that Walt directly had a hand in. Buzz Lightyear is good but it could use an update imo

[@ftrwrwbg]

@@charliemacsart It’s also extremely boring. It’s hard for me to imagine any children enjoying it. When I was a kid it was always one I avoided like the plague and I always had a great time on Buzz. Preferring to hop on that instead of Tron? I can’t understand it. For some reason the slowest and dullest rides are always the ones the hardcore people want to keep for all time. Knowing a lot of these people are ones who grew up with the parks like I did it’s weird to try and understand where the line is drawn and what can be replaced with a new ride and what can’t.

[@professorlogos5459]

33:56 no it’s not just a trendy thing. The very first time I visited MK, I was extremely disappointed. It felt like a discount rack version of Disneyland.

[@EyeofG]

My biggest gripe about magic kingdom is the complete lack of sunshading as well as shelter from rain. Magic kingdom has been open for decades at this point and yet it is basically a ruined day for you if you happen to get rained on there. All the rides are pretty much outdoors except for a very few handful of them and all of them Get shut down immediately once it starts raining. Magic kingdom notoriously has a huge flooding issues when it rains too much and they have never fixed it. There is a massive lack of actual shelter in areas due to a lot of the stores and food areas being very small or just barely small enough overhangs to protect the large groups of people that are there. Compared to epcot, where there are large gift shops or large areas to stay sheltered in when it rains, Magic kingdom is Practically an outdoors only experience most of the time you're there. I went two years ago with a moderately sized group of friends And we were even prepared for the rain yet We all still got soaking wet and our feet soaking wet as well Due to the flooding in many areas of the park. If anything the cast members there as well are the least nice of all the other parks had been to over the years And they actively do not help guests when they need it unless it's a medical emergency. Not one crew member offered any help or protection to any guests even families with babies in strollers against the rain where on multiple Occasions when I've gone to epcot i've literally seen cast members take off their own ponchos and give them to park guests to protect them from rain before.

[@charliemacsart]

I remember the central hub used to have a TON of trees but they cut them all down to make it easier to see the castle projection shows.

[@lunasuji]

this is pretty inconvenient in a place like florida, actually lol. it's either hellishly sunny or rainy.

[@cookimaus1]

Is.. that not an issue at any park? Plus when your a florida local like me, you get used to it. Rain just means shorter lines :3

[@crann777]

Better than Cedar Faire. The only areas in the parks with shade and seating are the designated smoking zones.

[@EricMontreal22]

Another reason it's maddening that, for example, they have so few Fantasyland dark rides compared to DL, etc.

[@yoshim616]

I prefer Disneyland but for me it was also my home park. My family lived close by and had passes so it was basically my family’s playground, so nothing can really ever beat that.

[@chrispapciak887]

Because the other parks are better, and Disneyland still reigns as the best Magic Kingdom.

[@samplautz5586]

I’ve never been to Disney, but just went to universal last weekend for the first time. I can’t fathom spending money on Disney when universal is the best theme/amusement park I have ever been to, and I’ve been to a bunch

[@charliemacsart]

Magic Kingdom is my favorite WDW park, it's the most charming and classic of the four and still has its base theme in tact, unlike Epcot or Hollywood Studios. My fear right now though is with all the rumors about changes to Frontierland and Liberty Square that point towards possibly losing them entirely, and also the rumors that the Beyond Big Thunder expansion, while sticking to the "genre land" theme that Magic Kingdom has instead of making an IP land, is going to heavily feature clone rides from other parks (Radiator Springs Racers, which doesn't fit Frontierland when you really think about it) and IPs that are much more needed in other parks (for example the rumor say there'll be a Woody's Round-Up attraction in the expansion that was originally planned for Toy Story Land, which makes no sense because Toy Story Land desperately needs more to do). I have no clue why Disney is so bent on giving WDW clones of other park's rides instead of their own original attractions- I'm pretty sure Guardians is the only original attraction we've gotten in the last 6 years that hasn't been cloned/is going to be cloned elsewhere.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Lol those rumors are not likely true at all. We'll see when D23 comes around and I'm sure it will be awful, but it's not those ideas kind of bad.

[@charliemacsart]

@@PoseidonEntertainment They do seem kinda insane but the guy who tweeted them has a pretty good track record. Really hoping he’s wrong in this case though cause I genuinely don’t understand how it would help the park to turn Frontierland into New Orleans Square, I think Tiana’s can fit perfectly fine in Frontierland since Louisiana is west of the original colonies. Plus if they remove Frontierland what happens to the Country Bears that they just spent money on revamping to a specifically Nashville inspired show

[@DavidBehlman]

Reminds me of the related point that they really should be adding capacity to the other parks!

[@SGTRandleOneOne]

So last week, I went to Universal's Islands of Adventure and then a few days later Disney's Magic Kingdom. I guess as an adult who enjoys both themeimg AND thrill rides, you can't really compare the two IN MY OPINION. At UIA I rode Velocicoaster for the first time. At Magic I rode Tron for the first time. One of these was amazing, and one was a big nothing.

[@adammayo4377]

My biggest problem with Magic Kingdom is the millions of strollers being pushed around by extremely rude parents. Last time I went there I had a full blown panic attack from the chaos. The rides are fine and nostalgic. I definitely prefer Universal since it skews older and guests are nicer and less stressed out.

[@robertoso8796]

growing up i always assumed i would inevitably make a pilgrimage to disney world. within the last half decade everything i've learned about it changed that. i can't imagine spending thousands to travel cross country and not get to see and do everything i went for

[@copyjockeynk]

I only hate the magic kingdom because when I'm ready to leave, I still have another 30-60 minutes until I'm at my car.

[@DonsStudios]

My first time going to MK was underwhelming. Sure the castle was huge but there were so many buildings used as unnecessary gift shops and meet and greets that left me longing for more rides and indoor queues. Compared to Disneyland, everything felt bigger and smaller at the same time

[@cosmicthunder25]

I haven't watched the video yet but I can bet it's: Crowds More kid-focused attractions "Outdated" attractions Having to take boat/bus/mono "Inferior" versions of rides at Disneyland

[@RossBaby91]

The monorail and ferry is the best part of getting there

[@cosmicthunder25]

@@RossBaby91 it was great once upon a time, now it takes forever

[@charliemacsart]

It's funny how every point you listed minus crowds was stated as a positive aspect of MK in the video lmao

[@officialmonarchmusic]

I think some of the things you mentioned are positives. The changes made to the park only made it worse

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I think that your guesses might be way off lol

[@JensMakerAdventures]

I watch a lot of your videos. Even though I appreciate your critisicms, I really enjoy the positivity of this video. Thanks for making it!

[@stoneyrules]

I have never been to and haven't had Interest of going to Disney since I was a kid. Kiddie land central, went to Universal last year with the school band, was stellar. They do what Disney can't

[@anthonyruby2668]

OH!!! I love when you have to go back to your car in the lot in the morning and the ONLY ONE on the TTC boat. You wave at the other full boat and they all wave back

[@DapperIndividual]

I think the reason i dislike Magic Kingdom so much (aside from the obvious crowding issues) is simply due to the Seven Seas Lagoon. What was once a way to fully immerse yourself in the world of the Magic Kingdom has become a cumbersome and tetious slog to get in and out of the park. It puts a major damper on the beginning and ending of a day, and the last thing i want after being in a 8+ hour day in the heat is another hour+ wait to even get to my car.

[@cosmicthunder25]

A symptom of the crowds

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I agree, it's so overcrowded, that its become clear how over-taxed the transportation systems are. Sometimes I'll walk to the Contemporary and take the resort monorail, or when it was possible before the DVC Polynesian tower construction, I would just walk, even if it ultimately took a lot longer. I would prefer to take my time than to wait in sweaty crowds full of obnoxious people.

[@mupty]

The death knell for MK would be the rumored plans to cut down or remove entirely Rivers of America. Unpopular opinion but we don't need a Villains Land.

[@WaterBug46]

If they proceed with the rumored re theming at MK I will be completely done with that park. Epcot is over. I keep my pass just for AK but spend most of my park days at Universal. And I’m not happy to say that. There was a magic that only Disney had but that genie has escaped it’s bottle. Not to be found again. At least in Orlando.

[@Mammothsaber-4457]

I don’t get why everyone thinks those ideas would be bad enchanto and coco have potential and people have been wanting a villains land for years

[@Tonithemeloni04]

I enjoy Disney, and I also see the points you make. As a person in the midwest, i am conflicted by disney’s nostalgia, current bad decisions, and the states (cough cough Florida) where they are

[@Scrypto-so1xc]

Despite being decades older Disneyland simply has the superior versions of many attractions. Pirates/Space Mountain/Haunted Mansion/Autopia/Small world all definitively worse and MK barely even has any Fantasyland dark rides to speak of. MK also has quite possibly the worst food of any Disney park which is saying something. I get they have to deal with the greatest volume of guests but would it kill to have quick service that isn't county fair trash tier food anywhere? I will say MK is much more equipped to handle massive crowds with its spacing/layout and generally has better shows/fireworks, but it also loses points for generally being a nightmare to leave any time after dusk

[@Scrypto-so1xc]

All that being said, I don't really disagree with the thesis of your video. The park is consistently enjoyable for mostly everyone and doesn't have a major glaring issue that Epcot/AK/HS suffer from. Also tomorrowland is just better in general with the functional peoplemover and all.

[@Scrypto-so1xc]

Also appreciate your point about getting to the park being much better than Disneyland. Bay Lake is absolutely beautiful and kind of acts as a buffer between the outside world and the park no matter how you get there. Disneyland's parking decks and walking through the miniscule Downtown Disney just don't compare

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Magic Kingdom food is particularly bad and it's always funny when I see someone refer to Columbia Harbor House as a "hidden gem". Also, people love to praise Skipper Canteen and I've always found it underwhelming for the amount of love it weirdly seems to get. I haven't eaten everywhere in the park, but the only place that seems like a good value is Liberty Tree Tavern, which has been consistent for the price.

[@TweetsieRailroader]

This was an excellent video. Honestly, regarding the castle parks, I definitely understand why Disneyland is seen as the better experience overall (I've yet to experience Walt's Magic Kingdom, being from the East Coast, but the Magic Kingdom we have here is something pretty special to me), but you are absolutely right in the Magic Kingdom having a lot of unique experiences to offer on it's own. One thing I do want to say is that, regarding the railroad, I do find the back stretch along Florida Swampland to be really neat, as it's some of the last vestiges of that on Walt Disney World Property, so getting to see what the Magic Kingdom once was in it's most "natural" state feels pretty neat. Plus, I think Walt Disney World may be on track for a new golden age here soon, with a creative back in charge of Imagineering, I think we might see a lot of things change at Walt Disney World for the better.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I'm really not optimistic about what will be revealed at D23 at all. Disney needs to stop spending money on parks until Iger leaves and I don't agree at all that Imagineering is going to start producing great stuff.

[@fr00gal]

1st

[@bluejay8345]

DAMNNN i think you are genuinely 1st LMAO

[@streetfightinmanrs]

I grew up in SoCal so I am a bit biased in believing Disneyland is the best, but to be completely fair, of the three versions of Big Thunder Mountain, the Disneyland Paris is my favorite version.

[@mattrost2574]

I grew-up on Disney. Starting in 1965 at Disneyland up until 2000 at Disney World. We won't be going back. Although I'm 68, I still love theme parks; especially the coasters. However, the only way to feel "satisfied" upon exiting the parks is when you can enjoy many attractions. Sadly, between the "points", "Genie+", reservations everywhere and the necessity of a cell phone in the parks have caused us to switch to Universal (FL & CA). At Universal parks, they have ExpressPass. And you can leave your phone in your hotel room. How many here have been a victim of a Disney "phone zombie", when someone is walking while using their phone and they don't watch their step? Rudeness everywhere. We've developed an "elbow maneuver" that will accidently knock the zombies' phones to the ground. But no more. We're 100% Universal. Perhaps someday if it's possible to easily procure rides at Disney, I'd like to ride Pirates & Haunted Mansion one more time.

[@wozborne88]

Ive been watching this channel for a couple of years and just happened to see this video. I was just at WDW and Magic Kingdom was extremely crowded. It wasnt as fun to visit bc of that, but i have to agree that the classic rides there, such as Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Space Mtn, Big Thunder, Carousel of Progess and TTA Peoplemover still make it something special. Despite the screaming kids and packed crowds. Disneyland Park is better in my opinion over Magic Kingdom still, especially for how much they can fill in such a small space, and yet feels less crowded than MK. Anyway i wanted to say to the narrator (not sure what his real name is) great job as always. I think you do a great job of describing the state of theme parks without sounding too much like you're a schill for either Disney or Universal. I really enjoy your videos on your thoughtful opinions, even if i dont necessarily agree with all of it. That being said, i think Epcot and Hollywood Studios are the best parks at WDW mainly for their rides (Test Track, Tower of Terror, Rockn roller coaster, Soarin' etc.) And themed areas such as World Showcase, Sunset Boulevard and Galaxy Edge. One last thing.....i think its a close call on which Space Mountain is better (FL or CA).

[@raymondsramirez]

A positive Disney video from Poseidon?! Love it!! Now do one for EPCOT, I dare you hehehe… In all seriousness, I enjoy your content a lot and I wholeheartedly agree to look at both perspectives of the state of Disney parks-the good and the bad. I admit MK is my least favorite of the 4 WDW parks. After growing up with the California park throughout my childhood, I came to MK in my mid 30s and was expecting a better version but left slightly disappointed. While there are some rides that are better in MK and some are better in DL, you reminded me that I tend to take for granted how well the theming is in MK. Which Disney has historically done well at, especially in their castle parks. Now it’s making me think what would it take for MK to jump higher in my personal park preferences for WDW. (Side note: I really wish Disney didn’t stop making those mini Fantasyland dark rides because those are so fun to ride when I go back to Disneyland in CA.)

[@SmittieKingMC]

It really boils down to transportation for me. My family doesn't go to this park anymore because we always left well before fireworks - otherwise you're waiting hours for the monorail/ferry if you don't stay at the Contemporary Resort. MK's transportation is not meant for the crowds it gets

[@SkyeID]

When it comes to Disney parks, I think, how can anyone have a good time? You're surrounded by people, spending like $500 for one day at the Magic Kingdom, and you gotta wait 5 hours to get on a 60 second ride. It's hot, it's sunny, there aren't enough shady places to sit; there is no possibility for peace, with rides making noise, and babies constantly screaming. You're tired, hungry, you don't wanna wait anymore for anything, but you have to wait in line just to go to a bathroom. You spend $40 on lunch, and hours later when thirsty, you spend $9 on a bottle of water. It sounds miserable!

[@matthewloriso5570]

Please be quick with a Liberty Square video! Your brief description of the land here made me think you can absolutely do it justice!

[@t.armstrong3119]

Can’t wait to hear your take on the future of Frontierland.

[@IsThatTwin]

Went to MK for the first time last year after going to DL multiple times and I will never forget being in fantasyland saying to myself “ where are the rides? “ . DL just bombards you with rides as soon as you walk into Fantasyland. Can’t wait to go back to DL this year

[@Global_Thrills]

You know it’s a good day when Poseidon posts 🤩

[@jimt9245]

Love the bitter-sweet comparison of the two Castle parks on the two coast. Having only been to WDW in 2009 and MK for 2 of those days, I found MK to be underwhelming at first glance. For only 2 days to absorb the park there is really no way I would have discovered the higher detail that you have pointed out. Thank you for the narration of the pathways of Adventureland, Frontierland and Liberty Square, it appears that Disney took more time and effort to express these elements. These pathways seem to have created a more expansive depth than the older Disneyland version. Disneyland does have a similar level of detail in New Orleans Square, but I appreciate the uniqueness of New Orleans Square being in California. The strength of the Castle park template were the seamless pathways through 5 theme lands and the skillful transition between lands. (Notice that no IP defines a Land). I don't hate this park, but it interesting how MK '71 differs from DL '55 in ways of lessons learned and the evolution of the parks. None of the parks at the WDW has ever received the same level of procurement as Disneyland as DL received a higher density of improvements for 40 years before DCA arrived. In comparison, WDW received a second park only 11 years later in EPCOT. Magic Kingdom hasn't matured in the same way as Disneyland, since resources have been spread across more parks. With Real Estate Magic Kingdom definitely has the potential to be an equal to it's older brother in Anaheim. Great video with thoughtful dialogue.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

I do actually think that I left out a lot of details, but that also speaks to the strengths of the park. Yes, perhaps it didn't age the same way that Disneyland has, but there's a lot of interesting elements to find if you take the time to look for them. There's probably a whole video worth of culture to explore with just Tom Sawyer Island or Liberty Tree Tavern, as Magic Kingdom has dense pockets of really interesting theming with depth.

[@jimt9245]

@@PoseidonEntertainment Any of these lands or attractions can lead to the rabbit hole of details. Thou I prefer the Small World at Disneyland (more grand with the Exterior Facade), I overlooked the non-trough version of the Magic Kingdom version.

[@forty_two42]

Thank you for this video. I'm from the east coast of the United States. I came from a family with limited extra income. So I've only been to Florida magic Kingdom. Thats what Disney IS too me. Mr toad, Peter Pan, haunted Mansion, etc. So i get so confused when people hate on Magic Kingdom because I don't have the context for anything else. And you both gave context and didn't get all gatekeepery in the process

[@STSGuitar16]

My personal beef with MK is that it is always just stupidly crowded lol. I agree with just about everything you said, though. After around 8:00 in the evening when crowds have thinned out, MK goes from being one of my least favorite WDW parks to being one of my favorites. Timing rides on Big Thunder and Splash so that you can see the fireworks is so much fun. At that point you can basically walk on most rides, and seeing the fireworks while riding up the lift hills on BT is a great experience. So yeah, my dislike for MK comes from the ~11:00AM-6:00PM range lol. When it is less crowded and you catch that second wind after dinner, it is definitely one of the most fun parks to experience.

[@PoseidonEntertainment]

Now that you point it out, I do think that my best experiences in the park are either in the early morning or late at night after fireworks. I suppose all parks are like that, but MK is a particular kind of stroller hell that other parks are not.

[@STSGuitar16]

@@PoseidonEntertainment yeah man, now that I’m thinking about it, probably a majority of my favorite WDW experiences occurred at night at MK, especially back in the day with extra magic hours when MK would close at like 3:00AM lol. Literally every ride was a walk-on by midnight back then. I’ve just had the attitude of, “I’ll tolerate this dreaded stroller hell so I can at least hit HM, PotC, and the Mountains” for the last several years when it comes to MK, but your video has me thinking a bit differently about that now. It truly starts to feel like a totally different park when the sun goes down and the strollers clear out. There are even parts of the park, like the area around Pecos Bill’s, that become more or less empty after the fireworks and really makes it feel like you have the park to yourself. Sure, the crowds at the other parks also thin out and wait times go down at night, but there’s something about nighttime MK that just has a truly special feeling. I also think there are some rides that are actually more enjoyable and immersive at night as well. For example, these days I pretty much only hit Jungle Cruise at nighttime because the atmosphere and ambience of that ride at night is some of the best at the entire resort. As I mentioned, Big Thunder is also great at night, and I love seeing HM’s facade all lit up at night, too. The park just has a really cool nighttime ambience in general. So yeah, this video now has me reconsidering some of my takes on the park as a whole. Nice job again, brother.