Positive Visions Revisted

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3 ай бұрын

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@0019329077
@0019329077 3 ай бұрын
I always hold a candle for Trumpton.
@chrisc7265
@chrisc7265 3 ай бұрын
_And it seems to me, that Trumpton_ _Is like a candle in the wind_ _Never knowing how to stand up_ _To the immigrants_
@Flibbles
@Flibbles 3 ай бұрын
Pugh, Pugh, Barney, Mcgrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb
@hobbie9071
@hobbie9071 3 ай бұрын
Zoomer here. I actually grew up without a tv or computer until I was a teenager, even though my family was well off. I didn't have a phone until I was 17. I am married and fully intend to raise my family (married and child on the way) without electronics more complex then a radio. I shall have to see how it goes, but having economic prospects that are thoroughly in the toilet will I think promote this. I work with my hands and chose that path based on listening/reading the DR since I was in highschool. I don't think we can all make it, but perhaps those that will need to have the choice made for them in some way. I myself am to far down my path to change, what with a child coming and all. I must now embrace trying to return to this more simple, natural way of organizing my family and community. Though I now have a family, supporting them successfully has put me in the vanguard in a way that being single would not have.
@Daimo83
@Daimo83 3 ай бұрын
It's funny isn't it how as soon as a technology is invented there's a rush to give it to everyone. What if there were limits. No pen until age 10, no scientific calculator until 15, no phone until 17, no car until 25. Or what if people had to demonstrate a working knowledge of the product - the semiconductor, the internal combustion engine. Responsibility, not just rights. They'd call it fascism of course. Self imposed limits are an artificial selection pressure which could improve the state of society.
@hobbie9071
@hobbie9071 3 ай бұрын
​@@Daimo83That's actually quite an interesting point. It immediately reminded me of something I think I read in Machiavelli's discourses on Levi. About the common theme between the two types of successful kingdoms, those that endure. That was hardship. If your people were in an inhospitable environment you would often grow strong from it and conquer your neighbors. This civilization would collapse as the fruits of its conquest fell to quickly into its mouth and they lost their culture of hardship. The only ones that truly endured had a culture of self imposed hardship, the primary example being the Spartans. As I understand they were able to break Glubb's civilization cycle and lasted for almost a millennia in roughly the same form and people. Due to this central aspect of simulating the circumstances that create strong civilization.
@GodsOwnPrototype
@GodsOwnPrototype 3 ай бұрын
​@@Daimo83This is exactly the principle of my positive vision, only I'd go bigger & have each person be raised graduating up through the deep forms of technological changes, including ways of thinking, from prehistory up through the industrial revolution, as children into natural early parenthood (teens into 20s), heavily assisted by young grandparents (30s into 40s). Life expectancy, especially with harsh darwinian conditions acting as a natural filter at the start of life, followed by active, healthy childhoods, would easily reach over a century. & with current health & medical technology being increasingly applicable once raising a family & the option to commence cyborg interventions having raised the second generation, there no reason why the futurist vision couldn't be progressively applied from a person's 50s onwards. I call it Rooted Progress & it seems the most sustainable way for a people with modern technology to retain a shared culture & common experiemce despite eventually living lives of bio-cyborg enhancement extendingn them through an extra century & possible space travel twilights & final decades on star ships or other worlds.
@defectiveindustries
@defectiveindustries 3 ай бұрын
@@Daimo83 My generation basically followed that; we didn't/weren't allowed pens at school until around 10 or so, the internet wasn't rolled out till we were 15-16, mobile phones didn't become mainstream until we were 18-19 Driving was the only thing we did early
@pollypolygraph
@pollypolygraph 3 ай бұрын
Return to Trumpton
@NedJeffery
@NedJeffery 3 ай бұрын
Focus on growth as an unqualified good is the type of thinking that results in unconstrained immigration.
@acropolisnow9466
@acropolisnow9466 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. It basically abolishes nationhood.
@alancantu2557
@alancantu2557 3 ай бұрын
Another factor here is capitalism inevitably incentivizing people to not have families or kids, but to opt for personal “gains” and individual pleasure. The decline in native population increases demand for immigration, further weakening any semblance of nation or kinfolk. Increased crime, low trust, and no common language or identity. These are all portents of collapse.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 2 ай бұрын
Genes > stonks
@dougzook1969
@dougzook1969 3 ай бұрын
The Bible says the Isrealites complained about missing slavery in Egypt once they were in the desert. It took a whole generation for them to become strong again.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha a very realistic story. We all know how much Js looove manual labor.
@salmiakki7652
@salmiakki7652 3 ай бұрын
I'm a zoomer, widowed with a young baby, he will not have a smartphone, I myself am weaning myself off the phone as I recognize I'm not setting a good example for my son. There is no TV in our home. We go each Friday to the local butchers where the employees greet my son by name. He smiles and laughs from his baby carrier. it's a wonderful, wholesome experience. We go out for a walk outdoors every day, and about every month, we travel to go see grandparents and extended family. Living in military housing, I know my neigbours by name, not just next door, but I know everyone on the street. Children still play in the street each night on base. I know I cannot be a father, so instead of trying poorly to be a father I rely on friends and family to come together and teach my son what it means to be a good man. That alone has begun to build a community I never would have expected. I hope that is a whitepill to y'all.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss. God bless you and your little boy.
@qwertyzz7
@qwertyzz7 3 ай бұрын
Glad my Superchat could help spawn a whole video.
@bigbraincontent
@bigbraincontent 3 ай бұрын
Proximity -- addicts will beat thier addiction not by resisting the temptation but by setting up the impossibility to engage with it. Can't drink if its been poured down the sink. You are exactly right about habituation. Also AA I personally am involved in building a Trumpton right now, maybe I will speak about it at the event
@pinkelephantz286
@pinkelephantz286 3 ай бұрын
Saying ‘just say no’ is not enough , the alternative has to be better. How do we provide an alternative to detrimental short term gratification methods whilst having positive pastimes , one always returns to replacing the vice with exercises in mindful consistency with strong fair paternity, learning skills , productivity and cohesive family unit ,morality, and intelligent thought out leadership. Solid Family unit is the basis.
@MrLGD1234
@MrLGD1234 3 ай бұрын
What event is this?
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
You cannot *build* a Trumpton
@bigbraincontent
@bigbraincontent 3 ай бұрын
Pink elephant that is right, nearness to the good with distance from the bad. F--B yes you can, just as families are built.
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
@@bigbraincontent You're going to give birth to a small village? A community may be like a family in many ways, but in this instance the analogy falls short.
@Spohcsom
@Spohcsom 3 ай бұрын
In Trumpton we didn't have smart phones. We had each other...
@regbar0
@regbar0 3 ай бұрын
Uncle Ted said the further we go down this path, the harder it becomes to go back.
@HarryG-man
@HarryG-man 3 ай бұрын
How to multiply zero, how to increase the number of termites, how to fill the walking stomach that man is imagined as. This is the drive of a purely economic philosophy of life offered by capitalism and communism both. Mere life.
@666kingdrummer
@666kingdrummer 3 ай бұрын
Just rename this video, "AA wishes he was Amish for almost 8 minutes."
@user-hu3iy9gz5j
@user-hu3iy9gz5j 3 ай бұрын
Probably the happiest people around despite the harassments they endure against the life in the community in which they live
@tastypymp1287
@tastypymp1287 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-hu3iy9gz5j Ignorance is bliss.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 2 ай бұрын
The Amish and Mennonites and Hutterites are basically the only all-white communities in the West anymore, they've been outlawed in secular circumstances, with governments even working the mixing of rural communities that are majority-white into their immigration plans. In Canada, for instance, since 2020 or something they've been purposely incentivizing third world migrants to move to 90%+ white rural communities. They even published a paper talking about how to fix the "problem" of these pockets that remain majority-white and how to get migrants not to just move to the big cities only. They didn't even bother to attempt coming up with an excuse for why we would need to do this, it was just taken for granted that the existence of majority-white rural communities is a problem that we should all want to "fix", for some reason. With that in mind, I think it is probably only a matter of time before even implicitly, accidentally all-white communities and churches are banned, so that if you want to meet in a church you're going to have to show the state that you have non-white worshippers in the congregation. While I doubt they will ban these sects entirely, I would be surprised if they don't get infiltrated by woke cultists and watered down to the point of being indistinguishable from non-denominational Protestant megachurches. I expect to see a push to bring black and brown people into their communities by any means necessary, because even just a few thousand white people being able to procreate in a stable manner generation after generation is a huge problem for the genocidal globalist elites, who are 100% committed to bringing about our extinction.
@TheFatController.
@TheFatController. 3 ай бұрын
I have lived in many different places and seen people living in very basic conditions. There is a way to live where we would select certain technology from the modern world. There are things that are very useful, such as hot water, indoor toilets, insulated homes. Things like this are great leaps forward for the quality of life of humans and I wouldn't get rid of them.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
overton of decadence, like giving antibiotics to the promiscuous
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
also indoor toilets are proven to spread faecal germs around the house so nah on that one
@WallGon
@WallGon 3 ай бұрын
Children of the winter can´t be the children of the spring
@bigbraincontent
@bigbraincontent 3 ай бұрын
Some soul-men walk in winter as some brain-men walk in spring. Spengler's model is an aggregate and a representation, there can be outliers and exceptions
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
@@bigbraincontent cope
@BallisticPlate
@BallisticPlate 3 ай бұрын
Nice revisit. I'd throw out there that there is something to be said regarding the fact that folks will adapt when techno amusement simply isn't an option. I bet a lot of folks would feel liberated by that.
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
The day-dream is an oasis of ‘peace and security’, in which 'everything has been taken care of' - all important decisions indefinitely deferred - leaving man free to amuse himself to death. The day-dream is underwritten by a ‘religion of technicity,’ which puts its faith in the redemptive potential of technology - as exemplified in the profane eschatology of 'The Singularity.' At the heart of this religion is the Antichrist, an augur of the final revelation. His is an optimised, fully-automated world of ease and comfort - a counterfeit, virtual world - created in the image of man, not God.
@grayfiresoul
@grayfiresoul 3 ай бұрын
Great bit of expounding of your thoughts about this, AA. Thanks for giving the younger ones something to chew on.
@vivechjorviani5440
@vivechjorviani5440 2 ай бұрын
I see a path defined by discipline and strong conviction, where technology is not forgone and still widely used but less necessary, removing the people's dependency, but still used to enrich lives, to see out the vision it was originally intended for without sacrificing mankind's agency by creating a people of high agency and community. A dream but not one to be overlooked.
@richawdon3856
@richawdon3856 3 ай бұрын
“That’ll do for now..”
@thrashes6208
@thrashes6208 3 ай бұрын
sound so somber in this one, its like me after a glass of whiskey
@Frederick1483
@Frederick1483 3 ай бұрын
Georgia guide stone vibes. I like it. That being said, I believe you are either in “the game” or out, in a sense. No half measures. I struggled with this for years. Grew up in a business establishmentarian family, wavered back and fourth between that world and at times living with hardcore separatist communities in the Ozark mountains. Listen, most of us technically have the option of being amish if we sincerely wish to be. I would never dissuade anyone from that, but if you want to live in and interact with civilization (if you can still call it that), then you know very well what you are signing up for; what you will have to navigate and contend with. Either way, do it with a clear understanding of your mission, then you will have no regrets. Nothing new under the sun.
@HerrOnuseit
@HerrOnuseit 3 ай бұрын
This needs a dedicated stream. I for one am a fan of the Trumpton Vision.
@gigachad6524
@gigachad6524 3 ай бұрын
What is with the bots? Very disruptive... Excellent to have a catch up on this, as a theory-cel myself I love these discussions
@timhsvwalkinsha
@timhsvwalkinsha 3 ай бұрын
Just returned from a month in China. Virtually all Western social media is blocked by the firewall. Unfortunately I have to say I felt better without it.
@basketweaver1144
@basketweaver1144 3 ай бұрын
If I could get rid of my phone I would. I tried to use a simple phone but it was too inconvenient for this world. I hate my smartphone, I hate how it consumes my soul.
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 3 ай бұрын
Get rid of it then - get a non-smart phone, that's what I have and it is all that is necessary.
@basketweaver1144
@basketweaver1144 3 ай бұрын
@@stumccabe I need it for work
@salmiakki7652
@salmiakki7652 3 ай бұрын
Try something like minimalist phone to make ypur phone less addictive, put your phone in monochrome, power it off at night, put it in the furthest corner of your house to charge, delete social media or place time limits on addictive apps, disable all notifications except phone calls, emails and text messages.
@stalwartteakettlepotato9879
@stalwartteakettlepotato9879 3 ай бұрын
By far, the biggest problems with rejecting the revolution of mass and scale , widely spread technology, and other such larg scale ideas is that you will get outcompeated and conquered by someone else. There must first be a way to stave off other competitors and remain powerful before you can start imposing restrictions on technologies and social organisation methods. Or, to put it another way, you need a powerful totalitarian state to artificially upkeep our small scale, less connected societies.
@user-ub1dz8js7s
@user-ub1dz8js7s 3 ай бұрын
I grew up with Trumpton as a kid and to me living in a suburbia of a mid sized Northern town, I regarded Trumpton back in the day as a cute, simplified, blue print for an idealistic societal setup in Great Britain i.e. something to aim for rather than the selfishness of people in general and my neighbours in what was 1980s England back then. In the 80s as a child, I used to dream that maybe there would be places approximately like Trumpton, hidden away somewhere in the home counties and that it was a real life possibility but now the concept of Trumpton seems almost as foreign to me and unlikely as say, an entire Amish community village suddenly popping up in rural Lancashire.
@willgoins218
@willgoins218 3 ай бұрын
Simplification of the world would help almost everyone out.
@Slingsby_architecture
@Slingsby_architecture 3 ай бұрын
We may not able to fully live that life but I hope we can help turn the course of humanity towards it and even start building the foundations for it to happen. This is a very important line of thought AA and glad you have revisited it. Scrump and Evelyn did a good stream on this just the other day.
@jaybeaton9301
@jaybeaton9301 3 ай бұрын
I just cancelled my TV package.
@smogland7933
@smogland7933 3 ай бұрын
It would be a lot easier to give up smart phones, twitter, and whatever else, in a community of like-minded people, than being an individual living within society. Forming communities, in whatever form, with rules for admission, is step one. Going it alone is failure.
@kachmi
@kachmi 3 ай бұрын
I would have to say that the expansion of material production has been a blessing, but that its financing of radical capitalism (mercantilism) and its mass consumerism that is the curse. Having plentiful and accessible means to furnish our material needs has seen to comforts from such wants as food, shelter, and clothing for the multitudes; but the creation of needles wants and needs by the capitalists has equally seen to the nullification of such benefits in their drag on the mental, physical, and cultural health of those multitudes.
@sobiq6339
@sobiq6339 3 ай бұрын
Nietzsche said about himself , it is easy to find me, the challenge is to leave me
@veiddimaddur8354
@veiddimaddur8354 3 ай бұрын
I love a good revist
@dramares
@dramares 3 ай бұрын
How many 'foreigners' believe as AA?... I'd count them on one hand. - This is how we got here.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
he'll never say that since he's half one of them
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 3 ай бұрын
Come on, capitalism is an ECONOMIC system, not a comprehensive philosophy for life. Of course capitalism focuses material goods. What else should an ECONOMIC system focus on? You need some other philosophy or belief system to go along with capitalism. Also, it's not really so much about maximizing material goods as it is merely about the efficient allocation of resources to produce goods and services. Services, of course, are not material goods in themselves, but usually use material goods to provide a service. Last, but not least, supply is produced to meet demand. It's still up to the consumers to decide WHAT they demand, and how much of it they demand. So if you think we're living in a highly materialistic world where the object is to keep up with the Joneses and have the most toys when you die, then that's because *you* decided to choose that. Choose something different--capitalism can still support it.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Regarding WEF depopulation: What do you make of Andrew Bridgen who alleged a Senior Cabinet Minister told him details of the plan to use turbo cancer to depopulate the world? According to Bridgen, the incident took place in the tea room at Westminster Houses of Parliament, where the unnamed senior Minister told him that he would be “dead of cancer soon” because he was misled into taking the vaccine during the lockdown.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
are there any followups on this to look out for? what did he mean by soon? anything about the fertility thing, or can purebloods only mate with one another?
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
and is that why Charlie has C and Queenie popped her clogs so quickly, after Philip?
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
also the guidestones stuff was obviously the Masons....
@numberproof7228
@numberproof7228 3 ай бұрын
We are the men of the age which we inhabit.
@basedbuddhist
@basedbuddhist 3 ай бұрын
I hear you AA. It's a difficult one. Personally, I've had many chapters in life and think / have found what you're outlining is possible. But, long term, a like minded community of others doing the same is needed to make it sustainable. NB what would happy to your channel?
@tonydalton6756
@tonydalton6756 3 ай бұрын
To me your world would be fantastic. Only if it were in black & white like an old BBC documentary in the English countryside.
@LordEriolTolkien
@LordEriolTolkien 3 ай бұрын
I have managed to avoid owning or using a phone
@benisrood
@benisrood 3 ай бұрын
Well done, David
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 ай бұрын
AA coming around to the Praise of Folly, Chaad Haag and Ted K way of seeing things
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
Coming round? His Trumpton vids were about 2 years ago!
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 ай бұрын
@@F--B This new vid is more explicitly anti-tech than that one though
@retohaner5328
@retohaner5328 3 ай бұрын
I reject any calls towards a cottage-core existence. It is anti-heroic and anti-vital to its core.
@AcademicAgent
@AcademicAgent 3 ай бұрын
Most people are not vital in that sense, heroism is for the chosen few. Where is your elitism?
@retohaner5328
@retohaner5328 3 ай бұрын
@@AcademicAgent Trumpton is fundamentally built on suppressing the will of those born with heroic instinct. Purely hereditary elites will naturally degenerate, ambitious men need the freedom to elevate themselves.
@retohaner5328
@retohaner5328 3 ай бұрын
@@AcademicAgentYour vision has no room for ambitious men to become elites. It forces great men (who are not necessarily born into their positions, 75% of hereditarianism is just another form of "BSBS therefore I rule") to wallow in the longhouse. It also suppresses the instincts of men who are not necessarily elites per-se, but still have impulses towards adventure and action. I fail to see how Trumpton isn't just the rule of tutting schoolmarms in general.
@bigbraincontent
@bigbraincontent 3 ай бұрын
The remnants of the grand cultural soul live on in the peasants, dormant. The cottage population is a store of cultural wealth that should be grown to a critical mass. When that mass reaches a threshold there will be exceptional people coming out of it who will rise beyond the cottage - not in spite of it but because of it. AA's interest in elite theory focuses on the 'high' end of power, but there is also a 'low' end where talent breaks off of the mass, and it seems that this is a subtle thing. Jouvenel acknowledged this when he wrote about this rising talent being scalped by incumbent Power, although he doesn't go into detail about the mechanism of how an individual moves from the disorganized mass into the realm of organized talent. Remember the Spenglarian functional (as in f(x)) understanding -- things like belief and ideology don't come into it at the top end of Power, but at this low end I think that they do.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
it's lesbian propaganda about not needing men and originates from ww2 germans, now subverted
@softcolly8753
@softcolly8753 3 ай бұрын
I believe that you could go to many remote places in third world countries and have what you suggest, and you are right, there are a number of comforts that I would not want to give up. Small town in Mexico or far South of Chile for example aren't that far off. To be fair you will still get internet and phones.
@macoooos9204
@macoooos9204 3 ай бұрын
But the line! The line must go up......
@billwilson1225
@billwilson1225 3 ай бұрын
Tolkien said that mankind's most regreatable feature is “their quick satiety with good.” But to our credit, we are _never_ sated with the profane. The PlayStation wasn't good enough, nor the PS2, nor the PSVR; nothing we create will suffice.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
boomers on video here in the 90s complaining their childhood was too boring
@finnogorman5683
@finnogorman5683 3 ай бұрын
You should watch the parody "Dumpton". Very funny!
@ralphh4131
@ralphh4131 3 ай бұрын
I like ur stuff. U need to do stream with Pete quinones.
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
Quinones has been on AA's streams many times
@Geokinkladze
@Geokinkladze 3 ай бұрын
The battery on my physical security key has just died and my bank, who opened my first joint account for me and my wife, who mortgaged my first house and who opened my kids first bank accounts is insisting i need to move to a digital security key. They just don't seem to get the idea that i don't own a smartphone.
@buglepong
@buglepong 3 ай бұрын
i think the elites already agree with you, but its something like Nietzschean master vs slave morality
@dominicius77
@dominicius77 3 ай бұрын
AA. I don't want to live in your fantasy because I'm too addicted to modernity. I don't want to live in your fantasy because your fantasy is going to get destroyed by an outside power. You either learn from what happened to Japan and China, or you are doomed to repeat their mistakes.
@defectiveindustries
@defectiveindustries 3 ай бұрын
I could live in that world; as I was already a young man when most of this crap was rolled out, so I'm not especially attached to it
@stumbling
@stumbling 3 ай бұрын
MAXIMISE INPUT
@Capt.Thunder
@Capt.Thunder 3 ай бұрын
One thing that strikes me is that you are focusing on the normies perspective, whereas the elites under your system would face a dilemma: how do they stay informed without all of this tech? If they drop it, they may be ignorant and vulnerable, whereas if they exempt themselves from the ban it creates a disconnect from the population they rule. The Westminster bubble is horrific in how it has diverged from regular native people, surely such a thing would also form should they fail to reject tech. That's discounting the issues of defence against external parties as well. Are we comfortable ceding the world to China, who will 100% embrace transhumanist bugmandom? Will they leave us alone?
@adamnhobbs5545
@adamnhobbs5545 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes life gives you what you need the presents technological age that we live in will not last forever these Ashes metaphoric then real will lead to a new and different world Ash produces some of the most fertile grounds 4 growth
@teakwondochest3287
@teakwondochest3287 3 ай бұрын
Great! This is a vision I‘ve had for some time. Some right wing ecologist magazin from germany has the same view and they get relentlessly attacker by boomers. „taking away muh freedoms, ecofascists, ecocommunists“ etc. People living in small villages, doing the trade their fathers did, living in a house that was built with resources that are naturally available within 15km of the house. They marry a woman that was born in their own or the next village. Whatever sophisticated technology is needed for army or industry is produced in centralized towns. The people in the towns (engineers, scientists etc) live in small, energy efficient pods. As motivation for living there, they get a minimum of comfort and occasionally some access to luxurios food, better medicine. Children are sent to or from cities based on their aptitude and their own choice. It will end up like this eventually, all resources expect biomass are limited on this planet. There are ofc also many uncomfortable sides. Child mortality will rise, not everyone will hav access to instant medical care. Most people will live like peasents in the 19th century, which has many positive and negative sides
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
men would riot if they couldn't sleep around and watch pixel women, men fall long before the women do
@Karl_Burton
@Karl_Burton 3 ай бұрын
Well you could count me in
@ThreeFineWonders
@ThreeFineWonders 11 күн бұрын
This Trumpton utopia… will there be dentists? or are we just getting rid of the iPhones? Aren’t we facing a population cliff and ought to be having babies?
@senko7207
@senko7207 3 ай бұрын
The idea of whether or not trumpton can be reconciled with modern technology should be explored further. You imagined trumpton to be at a 1960s level of technology, but why should the cutoff point be placed there? We need a positive vision that is acceptable for the people that exist today, otherwise we should just stick to the negative vision as you previously outlined.
@herlocksholmes9369
@herlocksholmes9369 3 ай бұрын
I think acces to the Internet is the main concern - it corrupts the minds of those who use it.
@senko7207
@senko7207 3 ай бұрын
@@herlocksholmes9369 so we can have any ammount of technology, just no internet or a very limited internet? This seems like a pretty reasonable compromise but i see why many would disagree.
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
@@senko7207 This is idle talk. Only nature, or God, can reverse the advance of technology.
@herlocksholmes9369
@herlocksholmes9369 3 ай бұрын
@@senko7207 I think that in AA's vision for Trumpton (at least the one he described a few years ago), he did actually only want the amount of technology to be roughly what you see in the "Trumpton" TV-show. He might have had some exceptions for the leader(s) of Trumpton, but I don't remember. However, I personally see the Internet as the main force that has corrupted people for the last decade or two. And therefore I tend to agree with you that there is a case to be made that, apart from the Internet, we could use more modern technology without us necessarily becoming corrupted by it. Anyway, I'm just making up different ideas and problems as I type this - so it's not something I've thought through systematically. But I do like to ponder about the subject :)
@johnnyredpillseed
@johnnyredpillseed 3 ай бұрын
AA World
@swikles713
@swikles713 3 ай бұрын
Dark
@samjudge1240
@samjudge1240 3 ай бұрын
To be honest, this "little village" society thing, seem nice...however guy like me and everyone else with ambition would see it as boring as hell. Why you think so many rock/metal icons makes music that is not traditional? many simply were from that "pleasantville" world and it was miserable. I myself am a objectivist and a individualist, and even thou I won't be living in a community you say, I would rather live in a prosperous future to the stars, then a small village of mediocracy. If anything, I would like to have good friends and love ones, I also like to live to the fullest. So I agree about connecting to people, in the sence as mutual traders, I wouldn't want to live like small villages in uk, as it's simply mentally boring, unless that village I can create and thrive higher then I would in a city, myself living as a wealthy man with friends and families I value.
@jackmullinger6708
@jackmullinger6708 3 ай бұрын
Nobody is going to the stars mate.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
you're not bored, you're boring
@TheSunsetHero256
@TheSunsetHero256 3 ай бұрын
i enjoyed this more down-to-earth commentary on your positive vision for a functional human society. I remember the original one sounding, frankly, nutty. Then your reaction when people commented so, was extra unhinged. This is a better approach. I disagree with you, that this is what humans need to have a healthy soul. The explosion of technological growth after the introduction of intellectual property ownership proves that the human spirit yearns to grow and expand in understanding and capability. I'm specifically picking a time before Baby Boomers, for an important reason. Your analysis is missing an integral step. It's not that we need or should find a society that is not obsessed with growth, the societies that will exist in 50 years /will be/. The systems in place are growth obsessed, but also growth requiring. That's because with the Baby Boomers, growth was always happening. This decade, the Boomers will retire. Over the next 40 years, they will die out. The population of the planet will halve. In America, the system of money printing only works if businesses can create more wealth than the wealth being destroyed. That will die with the Boomers. I think there is value in your positive vision. But I think you're too disillusioned by the current world order to see the good parts of the human soul in the system. So you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But people should respect the fact you have the stones to actually create a positive vision that is removed from the world we live in. It's easy to say "The world we live in now, but without X/but with Y" which can open the door to the same rot and decay. It also lacks imagination. My only request is to offer more than this single vision. The society left standing after the dust settles might use pieces of the visions you create, as no singular vision is going to work alone.
@tonydalton6756
@tonydalton6756 3 ай бұрын
I think by the time politicians have finished people will pray for a black hole to open & swallow up everything that ever existed. I'd prefer AA's utopia over what is coming in reality. 😅
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
"The explosion of technological growth after the introduction of intellectual property ownership proves that the human spirit yearns to grow and expand in understanding and capability." It proves nothing of the sort. You've told a progressive story. The traditional story says that if man does not place strict limits on technology then he becomes a malignant cancer, growing exponentially to the detriment of himself and his environment. Growth must always be tempered by limits, and ultimately by death.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
IP was 1700s on? gotta incentivise the Teslas just don't let COMPANIES hold it
@brettharter143
@brettharter143 3 ай бұрын
Based and Amish-Pilled?
@carneades.
@carneades. 3 ай бұрын
Trumpton sounds like utopia.
@AlexTamayo.
@AlexTamayo. 2 ай бұрын
I think the main problem with your "positive vision" is that it is too anti-human and utopian (at least for you). It completely goes against what us humans have been doing since recorded history. And you propose a false dichotomy when you imply that it is either your vision or what the WEF/technocrats have in mind for the future. Those aren't the only two options.
@lectorintellegat
@lectorintellegat 3 ай бұрын
Spiritually malnourished? Don’t you think theology is a nonsense discipline?
@AcademicAgent
@AcademicAgent 3 ай бұрын
Spirituality has nothing to do with interpreting scripture
@SuperBlackguard
@SuperBlackguard 3 ай бұрын
You've a Brilliant Mind, But the whole idea and structure of reality is outlined and brought into a concrete vision in the Vedic understanding of reality, you might go through lifetimes to have it land in your lap. I Think Einsteins Quote about " you cannot solve a problem from the level of consciousness which it was created" says and elucidates quite a lot.
@mirarstudios
@mirarstudios 3 ай бұрын
To me the footage doesn't suit the message since this footage, everyone is simply fulfilling a cookie cutter jobsworthy role, it appears highly stratified and over-coded. On the one hand we need organisation and strata to achieve things, on the other hand, a great deal of human satisfaction is achieved simply by having more space for feral nature. This is what I've found by experiencing life in Australia vs the Victorian industrial workhouse mentality of the UK. There is simply more room and opportunity to live feral with less and be happier and freer for it.
@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 3 ай бұрын
Starship trooper vision it is then.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 ай бұрын
Service guarantees citizenship
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902 foreign violent men in a country, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 ай бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 What are you on about?
@halbkuppe4895
@halbkuppe4895 3 ай бұрын
Being against depopulation is bugmanish
@rudi5139
@rudi5139 3 ай бұрын
I really don‘t understand the appeal of living in a small village. At the end of the day it‘s a form of escapism.
@rudi5139
@rudi5139 3 ай бұрын
I want to add that, listening to Conservatives for over 10 years, I came to the conclusion that it‘s not the Left who are what Nietzsche called „the last man“, it‘s a description of the Right, at least the Right of 2024.
@AcademicAgent
@AcademicAgent 3 ай бұрын
@@rudi5139the whole population can’t be heroic. This is what you miss.
@Vingul
@Vingul 3 ай бұрын
I don't see the appeal of living in a city.
@rudi5139
@rudi5139 3 ай бұрын
@@Vingul Ok, but it‘s current reality. You might think a village with 150 people would be great, but at the end of the day you will never know. Because they don‘t exist anymore.
@Vingul
@Vingul 3 ай бұрын
​@@rudi5139 Lol, I actually live in one. And I used to live in the capital, so I know what that's like, too. Funny that you should talk about reality and think small villages don't exist. Give yer head a shake.
@fhialsdhkt43tg72
@fhialsdhkt43tg72 3 ай бұрын
What a boring, undesirable vision.
@nachtwandeling1237
@nachtwandeling1237 3 ай бұрын
There's also a negative vision that might suit you more. You'd be clearing out people all day.
@fhialsdhkt43tg72
@fhialsdhkt43tg72 3 ай бұрын
@@nachtwandeling1237 yes, this sounds better
@50centpb7
@50centpb7 3 ай бұрын
Our destiny is in the stars. Dickie is right about that if nothing else.
@chrisc7265
@chrisc7265 3 ай бұрын
@@nachtwandeling1237 "see that Italian ice cream salesman over there? You know what to do."
@F--B
@F--B 3 ай бұрын
You are young. You will learn.
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