How My Viewers Messed Up the World After WW1

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@possiblehistory
@possiblehistory 8 ай бұрын
Reminder: So much has changed, I cannot make this a realistic scenario. If I did, it would be 20 minute of me going "But so much has changed, we simply don't know!"
@brantehrlicher1922
@brantehrlicher1922 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I prefer the more fun ones
@TopatTom
@TopatTom 8 ай бұрын
Yeah yeahh
@TopatTom
@TopatTom 8 ай бұрын
Its ok i love it whacky
@AltraHapi
@AltraHapi 8 ай бұрын
Just simply go full wacky alternate history if it's not feasible to continue realistically. I'm intrigued in this storyline
@ohioanempire
@ohioanempire 8 ай бұрын
You need to check the toxicity of your server. I got banned for having an unpopular idea
@The_Wardo_
@The_Wardo_ 8 ай бұрын
Hope there will be a part 3 , I'm getting invested into this
@NoahMeza1
@NoahMeza1 8 ай бұрын
Same
@frederickthegreat5537
@frederickthegreat5537 8 ай бұрын
same
@petersladek884
@petersladek884 8 ай бұрын
same
@Usman-haider
@Usman-haider 8 ай бұрын
Same (let's make this comment made by The wardo the top comment so we get our part 3) also wardo changed his name :/
@felixsamorukov1018
@felixsamorukov1018 8 ай бұрын
same
@darrylbonner7208
@darrylbonner7208 8 ай бұрын
Compared to the other viewer votes, this is surprisingly more peaceful than thought it was going to would be.
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo 8 ай бұрын
yea. started horribly, but managed to get pretty
@MahamudaAkhter-og9ku
@MahamudaAkhter-og9ku 8 ай бұрын
That's cuz he chose the most peaceful scenario it could get, in reality I doubt anything like "peace" could happen
@cookie_jar706
@cookie_jar706 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@napoleoncomplex2712
@napoleoncomplex2712 8 ай бұрын
...literally the entire east of the map was engulfed in war. ...still probably better than our timeline.
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 8 ай бұрын
@@napoleoncomplex2712 IRL it was also kinda the case so, not that much of a change.
@sungamer2495
@sungamer2495 8 ай бұрын
I really want part 3 now, this is actually a very interesting scenario
@MexicanCountrybaIl
@MexicanCountrybaIl 8 ай бұрын
173 likes no comments, cmon this is what everyone wants
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 8 ай бұрын
I'm all for it who cares if it is going to fanfic as it already is far above that line, i want more of this weirdly peacefull timeline
@heinz5002
@heinz5002 8 ай бұрын
As a german I absolutely love the franco german polish friendship of this scenario
@Kalbak666
@Kalbak666 8 ай бұрын
As a pole I love it too!
@comba3694
@comba3694 8 ай бұрын
As a french i like it too
@ыцццФццц
@ыцццФццц 8 ай бұрын
As Russian, I dont
@ryanrg1545
@ryanrg1545 8 ай бұрын
As a Brazilian, this is wayyy too peaceful.
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 8 ай бұрын
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 8 ай бұрын
I am astounded the viewers actually managed to prevent Weimar from collapsing. Also that they shit they did didn't end in disaster generally.
@AdvancedGamer-
@AdvancedGamer- 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t end in disaster Bruh
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 8 ай бұрын
In classic Possible History viewers fashion, they managed it by stripping Bavaria from Germany. I had a feeling that cutting out the National Socialist heartland would complicate that guy's rise to power.
@whyops
@whyops 8 ай бұрын
dont forget southern prussia aswell @@gengarzilla1685
@Lp-army1
@Lp-army1 3 ай бұрын
This is compared to their other scenarios ​@@AdvancedGamer-
@AdvancedGamer-
@AdvancedGamer- 3 ай бұрын
@@Lp-army1 ok
@benb5038
@benb5038 8 ай бұрын
The most cursed thing about this Versailles is that it makes Liechtenstein to Switzerland what Lesotho is to South Africa
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 7 ай бұрын
no. Liechtenstein would be annexed.
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 6 ай бұрын
@@WhizzKid2012that’s funny, I don’t remember him saying anything about Lichtenstein being annexed
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 6 ай бұрын
@@kylezdancewicz7346 but it would be if Switzerland were to annex Tyrol.
@OrthodoxCrusaderOfficial
@OrthodoxCrusaderOfficial 5 ай бұрын
@@WhizzKid2012Liechtenstein is separate from Tyrol
@Darwidx
@Darwidx 5 ай бұрын
​@@OrthodoxCrusaderOfficialLiechtenstein is technically a Swiss protectorate that can in any moment join Switzerland at will, so it being encircled change nothing at all, it's still monarchist little Switzerland if they're don't ask for being annexed.
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe so much changed by France not getting the Saarland. This should absolutely become a hoi4 mod.
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h 8 ай бұрын
Also the intermarium dream coming true is just beautiful, I imagine it being sort of like an early EEC, but for the east, not the west.
@raviolithebest8644
@raviolithebest8644 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought French Saarland was a bad idea in every scenario I’ve ever viewed lmao
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 2 ай бұрын
@@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h yeah, it's a good idea, i'm just always interested in how the question of the border disputes of Poland with the east would be handled. I mean it was pretty much as bad as the Balkan border disputes, and the area in Polish eastern territories was basically a patchwork, so i think you'd realistically need some compromise, rather than just giving up all the land as mostly seems to happen in PH videos. Doubt Poland would just give up areas seen as core (rightfully or not) because of the Commonwealth past
@gtaakuma4514
@gtaakuma4514 8 ай бұрын
This video deserves a sequel its really well made and i think the ww2 scenario you made is perfect
@soogaalsosooga
@soogaalsosooga 8 ай бұрын
i like how this gave a story instead of vague scenarios its more entertaining
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 8 ай бұрын
Like either way we cannot make real definitive alternate scenario as Butterfly effect and factor X are still inevitable from our timeline as this is much more entartaining
@kartoffelkaiser322
@kartoffelkaiser322 8 ай бұрын
i love how cartoonishly small the voters made russia in an attempt to destroy them, only for them to become stronger than in our own timeline
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 8 ай бұрын
I don't think they would actually annex Mongolia, especially if they are in an alliance with China. A protectorade would be more fitting.
@kartoffelkaiser322
@kartoffelkaiser322 8 ай бұрын
@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 i agree, as like in our own timeline there would be little to gain and it would certainly upset China. The main reason i think the Russians are stronger in this timeline is because of their internal situation and their huge eurasian alliance with Italy and China. Of course one could argue that they are weaker because of the giant european alliance which exists specifically to counter russian influence and expansion. However, i still stand with my earlier statement that they are overall stronger than the soviet union of our time.
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 8 ай бұрын
@@kartoffelkaiser322 You're right, they are stronger, since there shoudn't be any massive purges of the military. As for the foreign policy, it's possible the Tsar could try to be in good terms with France, Germany and even Poland. Ukraine, on the other hand, would be harder, since the best lands for agriculture is there and the country controls Crimea (maybe it's not sooo important since they have Turkey on their side). Italy could very well make trouble with Serbia and Croatia and take the rest of Greece and I think this would be a point of atrition between Russia and Italy. What do you think?
@kartoffelkaiser322
@kartoffelkaiser322 8 ай бұрын
@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 i absolutely agree that the alliance is far from perfect. The russian annexation of mongolia is guaranteed to eventually create tensions between them and China, and italian ambitions in the balkan actively contests russian influence and potential allies such as bulgaria or greater serbia. All of this on top of the fact that japan is now solely dedicated to the destruction of Russia means that the Russians have many challenges ahead of them.
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 6 ай бұрын
@@kartoffelkaiser322really what is Japan going to do? Japan has been annihilated from any ability to be considered strong enough to do anything. The best they can do is provide a slight annoyance from the East being little more then a large American air field.
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po 8 ай бұрын
Video Idea: What if Venice, over multiple centuries, unified Italy?
@GwainSagaFanChannel
@GwainSagaFanChannel 8 ай бұрын
What if Venice realized its decline and focused its efforts on Italy and Dalmatia
@dostawcagazu
@dostawcagazu 8 ай бұрын
It's impossible Venice would control Lombardia and Romania at best, then lose it shortly after.
@Thatoneretardwithaaccount
@Thatoneretardwithaaccount 8 ай бұрын
@@dostawcagazuRomania?
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 6 ай бұрын
@@dostawcagazuI’m sorry Romania, I don’t know the most about Venice but that doesn’t make much sense
@browhatisthis37
@browhatisthis37 4 ай бұрын
​@@kylezdancewicz7346 he probably meant Emilia-Romagna, the Italian region
@GigaRoman
@GigaRoman 8 ай бұрын
What if everything went perfect for the Kingdom of Italy?
@Funkaheltok
@Funkaheltok 8 ай бұрын
The north never united with the south. Done. Next video
@maxthetube8466
@maxthetube8466 8 ай бұрын
that would be the opposite@@Funkaheltok
@GigaRoman
@GigaRoman 8 ай бұрын
​@@Funkaheltoka fellow NeoBourbonist, I see
@denizmergen418
@denizmergen418 8 ай бұрын
rome?
@emperorvader283
@emperorvader283 8 ай бұрын
@@denizmergen418 Pope.
@HistoryTwistChronicles
@HistoryTwistChronicles 8 ай бұрын
He ended the video with saying "Hope you learned something". Right after JSH accused him with not teaching us anything. Idk if its a coincidence but its funny.
@a1phamemes734
@a1phamemes734 8 ай бұрын
It’s probably keeping up with the bit of him being a professor and us being his students but it’s still funny to think about as a jab
@amckittrick7951
@amckittrick7951 8 ай бұрын
Whos JSH
@Kroiznacher
@Kroiznacher 8 ай бұрын
​@@amckittrick7951a insignificant KZbinr who cries a lot
@heisenbachofficial9437
@heisenbachofficial9437 8 ай бұрын
I mean, why would he be teaching us something? I don't think that's his goal. He just wants to tell neat stories.
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 6 ай бұрын
@@amckittrick7951another alt-history KZbinr who when PH didn’t give him credit for a map he made for another KZbinrs video, that was poorly designed and had the map made fun of for that and PH didn’t give him credit for it. He then proceeded to make a 15 minute video I believe that quickly devolved to him ranting(basically a tantrum) about every little thing he doesn’t like about Ph for a matter he could have handled in private
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po 8 ай бұрын
Video Idea: What if everything went terrible for England?
@LoanShark_totallyreal
@LoanShark_totallyreal 8 ай бұрын
Good ending
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 8 ай бұрын
It would be really great considering current events
@nathanlocation
@nathanlocation 8 ай бұрын
if only god was real
@donpollo3154
@donpollo3154 8 ай бұрын
Atheism levels drop to 0% as God is proven to be real
@JustJ_KK
@JustJ_KK 8 ай бұрын
Yes just make Ireland own it
@avandorhu-3389
@avandorhu-3389 8 ай бұрын
Hey, at least we avoided the funny mustache man from coming to power in Germany! That has to count for something, right? ... right?
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed 8 ай бұрын
I think he was the one stiring things up in Bavaria. Atleast got stoped before more chaos happen.
@avandorhu-3389
@avandorhu-3389 8 ай бұрын
yeah exactly. He was stomped out before he could do some Real damage.
@Hijiri_MIRACHION
@Hijiri_MIRACHION 8 ай бұрын
Whatever this alternate WWII ends up being, Germany will most likely be fighting against Italy in this timeline, maybe with Russia and the Tsar taking the role of Germany and Hitler and China taking Japan's role.
@BBP-OMO
@BBP-OMO 8 ай бұрын
Didn't expect the EU-esque direction you went with but it does seem possible and a nice change of pace from how horribly I expected this to go
@Einsym
@Einsym 6 ай бұрын
Russia supporting the... Turks?! Against the greek?!
@ivanvladimir0435
@ivanvladimir0435 Ай бұрын
You know you ruined europe when this happens
@cyb3rbruh
@cyb3rbruh Ай бұрын
It happened irl,boslheviks gave guns to ataturks army in exchange of to be paid after the war
@Balkenkreuz-m6l
@Balkenkreuz-m6l 8 ай бұрын
This treaty was kinda stable compared to the real treaty of Versailles (except the balkans and asia) but I think ww2 would not happen in this timeline as destructive as the real
@condormk2
@condormk2 8 ай бұрын
It is weird to see a European ww1 scenario where there is no communism
@calamitycaliber337
@calamitycaliber337 8 ай бұрын
Notice how the title is "messed up" and not "ruined"
@jeffreypethtel5467
@jeffreypethtel5467 8 ай бұрын
I find this scenario fascinating in a lot of ways, but In terms of where you left it, I'd like to zoom in on Romania. I'd imagine in your Balkan war scenario, their military performs fairly well to successfully cross the Danube and secure Dobruja, without even collapsing to Hungarian pressure and holding the mountain line. Losing Dobruja when they had won World War 1 would have already been an outrage, but losing what they'd gained in Transylvania too would I imagine, be a very large bruise. Economically and Geographically Romania may have been forced to align with the "Axis", but even more so than OTL, they despise nearly every one of their supposed "allies" for various reasons. With all this in mind, and given the prevalence of Nationalist movements in Romania otl even without this complete land loss humiliation, would be very strengthened in this scenario. Irridentist and Nationalist fervor would likely be sky high in parts of the population and it's not unlikely a weak King Michael II, without a Greater Romania economic boon, ends up being subverted by a rising Nationalist movement, whether Iron Guard or otherwise, who win elections and strongarm their way into control of the Romanian government. Ideologically, this kind of government would appear to be a perfect fit for this scenario's axis, but all of Romania's geostrategic goals align against the Axis. They have almost nothing to gain by fighting for Russia and Italy, and everything to gain by fighting against them. Just like how Communist Romania was in the Warsaw pact in otl, I'd imagine this Romania is a Maverick in the alliance, refusing to allow others to have bases, station officers, move supplies, or in any way assert control over or with the Romanian military, which themselves is rapidly expanding from purchases of French and Italian equipment, two nations they share immense cultural ties with and which exported a lot of arms in this time. Like Communist Romania, this Nationalist Romania would also necessarily have to vastly expand domestic industries, propping them up with whatever duct tape and glue could be found, closely aligning with the Serbs/Yugoslavs on these weapon developments. This could lead to a very surprisingly strong Romanian military, They'd have access to almost all of the experienced officers from WW1, the new officer corps they trained, and the excellent defensive and artillery training and tactics learned from there, as well as whatever solid offensive tactics let them seize Dobruja against the odds. With such close cultural ties to France and economic interests north in Galicia, it's also possible Romania establishes a secret alliance, much like they did with Germany and Italy before WW1 in the "Triple Alliance" to protect against any aggression in the meantime. This could include plans in case of war to Neutralize or force Hungary's hand, by Romania continuing it's Maverick streak and refusing to join a Russian Italian war against the Intermarium/Franco-German Alliance, and thusly cutting Hungary off from any ground support, leaving it vulnerable to collapse with a German and Polish border. If the Russian/Italian Axis try to press Romania with their superior military force across the Danube (a tough task with only 2 or 3 bridges on the whole length), Romania could then also activate her secret alliance with the Intermarium and seal Hungary's fate in the meantime, allowing, even if they fell, a very fervrent Nationalist Romanian free government and forces to retreat backwards and link up with Intermarium forces to continue the fight. TLDR: Romania got hella humiliated in this scenario, and there's not a shot in hell they don't try to go against the Russian/Italian Axis with their geostrategic position and very likely Nationalist sentiment
@revan7383
@revan7383 8 ай бұрын
I feel like every alternate history for Hungary I've seen was kinder or more successful for Hungary than in our own timeline lol
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 8 ай бұрын
Whe are living in the what if everything went terrible for hungary timeline.
@takashi1745
@takashi1745 8 ай бұрын
​@tompatterson1548 nah it always can be much worse
@abelujfalusi1683
@abelujfalusi1683 7 ай бұрын
Currently it is pretty much the worst scenario that could occur, so nothing to go worse there....
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo 8 ай бұрын
Im invested in this world now. thanks to it being a better world than expected. like a richer British colonial holdings (probably), a Good German Democracy (and EU) and Good ol Russia allying with Turkey as well as a United Arabia
@ThatEzekielGuy
@ThatEzekielGuy 8 ай бұрын
I’m sorry :c
@myri_the_weirdo
@myri_the_weirdo 8 ай бұрын
I'm not
@halftime919
@halftime919 8 ай бұрын
I'm not
@mahaarshad3820
@mahaarshad3820 8 ай бұрын
Me too:c
@beetlebg3759
@beetlebg3759 8 ай бұрын
I am not
@Cat_DeGaulle
@Cat_DeGaulle 8 ай бұрын
Me too:(
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 8 ай бұрын
this is more cursed than any thing i have seen before, this makes me feel many emotions but mostly lust
@FedericoGrimaudo
@FedericoGrimaudo 8 ай бұрын
👀
@philibertyt2844
@philibertyt2844 8 ай бұрын
🤨
@NormalThe7th
@NormalThe7th 8 ай бұрын
same here. Besides the lust part , the borders make me vomit
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo 8 ай бұрын
@@NormalThe7th it gave me more lust as borders are clearing up 😩😩😩
@NormalThe7th
@NormalThe7th 8 ай бұрын
@@oooshafiqooo Obviously I started to feel lusty when the borders cleared up , how could anyone not?
@neumo5005
@neumo5005 8 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, fresh PH content is the best way to wake up
@chestbox9467
@chestbox9467 8 ай бұрын
pause
@OnTheJayLo
@OnTheJayLo 8 ай бұрын
Fresh what content???
@an_intruder
@an_intruder 8 ай бұрын
sus
@bulgarski_krastonesets
@bulgarski_krastonesets 8 ай бұрын
video idea: what if everything went perfect for Josh Sullivan History💀
@pennyfarthing7332
@pennyfarthing7332 8 ай бұрын
Gen Z Diplomacy hits different
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 8 ай бұрын
This actually prevented a world war wow congrats PH viewers you actually achieve your objectives
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h
@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h 8 ай бұрын
Well, I feel like the russian-japanese war would probably be at least half as deadly.
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 8 ай бұрын
@@CampbellMcKinnon-e7h a commenter calculated the casualties to be 40 million
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 7 ай бұрын
​@@CampbellMcKinnon-e7hbut not a world war. its just two countries. Russia and Japan.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 8 ай бұрын
Love these videos! Keep up the good work
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 8 ай бұрын
Enjoyable, but Russia would never support the Turkish against the Orthodox Greeks. Tsarist Russia was very religious, so instead they would team up with Greece against the remaining Turkish and grab more Anatolia between both.
@DiegoES2531
@DiegoES2531 8 ай бұрын
I think italy would be enemies whith russia insted of alies, fighting for dominance in the balkans
@patrikmodrovsky1842
@patrikmodrovsky1842 8 ай бұрын
also, Czechoslovakia would quickly take Sudetenland and with Romania win over Hungary at least during Greece war, Czechoslovakia would join and attack Hungary
@jacobbond2810
@jacobbond2810 8 ай бұрын
Can you give an estimated casualty count on the Second Russo-Japanese War? Including the Sino-Japanese War, I'm estimating around 40 Million Casualties. That must've been brutal. Can't even imagine the amount of war crimes.
@possiblehistory
@possiblehistory 8 ай бұрын
I tried to calculate a figure, but it was too difficult to say for certain. But I agree with you, just the Sino-Japanese war had around 20 million casualities, it now lasted a couple years later, and included the Russians throwing men at the Japanese. 40 million seems a very fair figure.
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 8 ай бұрын
Also what would be the name of the war the great eastern war maybe
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kaiser_Polaristhe 2nd Finno-Korean hyper war
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 8 ай бұрын
@NAXALAKhalistanCommunist Then we need to change ottomans from before the napoleon times
@Error403HRD
@Error403HRD 5 ай бұрын
1:12 this screenshot alone makes me excited
@ash_11117
@ash_11117 8 ай бұрын
I doubt that Russia would support Turkey over Greece. One of their main objectives during the Great War was seizing Constantinople or keeping it out of Turkish hands at least.
@szymonmolicki
@szymonmolicki 8 ай бұрын
Video Idea: What if everything went PERFECT for Poland?
@chevmimins6876
@chevmimins6876 8 ай бұрын
He's already planning on releasing that one
@jurepec5779
@jurepec5779 8 ай бұрын
Hate to break it to you but it’s against the nature of the universe, all known laws of quantum mechanics and gods plan, that something would go great for Poland
@eduardcardenas9736
@eduardcardenas9736 8 ай бұрын
That would only happen if Russia never unified
@ГригорийКузярин-т1ъ
@ГригорийКузярин-т1ъ 8 ай бұрын
Lithuania was the one to unify Rus and then became part of the Commonwealth
@eduardcardenas9736
@eduardcardenas9736 8 ай бұрын
​@@ГригорийКузярин-т1ъ i don't think so, firstly rus (i'm assuming you mean the kievan rus) was unified by slavic trives from novogrod, secondly, in the Polish-Lithuanian Comonwealth lithuanians were a minority, even in their own Grand Dutchy of Lithuania, wich btw was starting to get it's lithuanian nobility replaced by poles, i could be wrong, as i don't have a lot of knowledge on the matter, but i would apreciate you elaborate a little on what you said, so i can know what exactly you are refering to 😄 edit: wall of text 💀
@michaelchristy506
@michaelchristy506 8 ай бұрын
This feels like something a hoi4 modded would make into a game, I love it
@thegeneraljohn2895
@thegeneraljohn2895 8 ай бұрын
Honestly very surprised with the outcome of the... "Interesting" choices made in the last viewer-vote. Was expecting a far more chaotic result, but, can't say I'm not enjoying it! Hopefully there's a part II in the making. Also, as a side note, it seems a tad bit strange that the Polish government -- which at its time was rather hard-line nationalist -- would simply hand over territory it viewed as part of Poland proper (i.e. Lwów and Wilno) especially considering those areas were more heavily Polonized. Even if they were pursuing the Prometheist doctrine of the late Piłsudski, it would be highly unlikely that the Sanation government would simply turn over the entirety of Eastern Galicia and Wilno. Just some food for thought in future mapping!
@ee822
@ee822 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps the Versailles treaty having combined Poland and Lithuania, with Lithuania being given major influence from being the primary sea access of the nation, is the source of what caused Poland to diverge? The Intermarium's state at the end of the video is an economic union, but the plan could be to combine into a new, fully realized Commonwealth. France may even be encouraging that so the alliance between all of them has three semi-equal partners to it that'll make the arrangement more stable.
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 2 ай бұрын
yeah I agree. Giving up Wilno and Lwów especially would've been seen as a major slap in the face. I'm not sure this could have been resolved peacefully in all honesty. I feel like PH doesn't really give the issue the recognition it deserves sometimes, just making it so that Poland gives up all contested lands for the sake of peace, when in reality it wasn't so simple
@Malhaheifnrifbwkmq
@Malhaheifnrifbwkmq 8 ай бұрын
I really hope that in the next part he takes into account the massive losses Russia would’ve taken from the war with the Japanese (Probably 10s of millions dead)
@anvos658
@anvos658 8 ай бұрын
Still progressed better than the youtuber one. I have my doubts Mussolini still comes to power without being able to rail on Italy getting ripped off in the peace deal. Further I don't see Europeans letting Turkey have Constantinople back. Also seems kind of weird that the US Navy wouldn't intervene, or pressure Japan into accepting the peace deal, if Japan was losing so badly they'd lose their ability to repay debts to the US, especially with a Russia that looks like its on a conquering spree. Further I'm not sure we'd have a full on Great Depression in this world, rather than just a recession.
@Nick11752
@Nick11752 8 ай бұрын
I definitely saw Greece losing Anatolia and most likely Thrace with possible occupation by Italy, but I'm surprised Russia didn't back Greece. I like the Franco-German-Polish alliance.
@StrangeGamer859
@StrangeGamer859 8 ай бұрын
I know you are already planning an 1848 video, but What If Every 1848 Revolution Succeded?
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 8 ай бұрын
So Italy gaining more territory than on our timeline didn't stop them of going radical nationalist. Sure, the economic recession would be unavoidable, but I thought the democratic institutions would survive. I wonder if "vittoria mutilada" would even be a thing in this scenario.
@Catitect
@Catitect 8 ай бұрын
What if everything went perfect for romanian principalities (1 year of asking i started asking in summer 2023)
@kellenjervis2632
@kellenjervis2632 8 ай бұрын
See? possible history viewers should redraw every historical map and the world would be much more peaceful
@theambassador3695
@theambassador3695 8 ай бұрын
I love how at the beginning, greece who is due to their territorial gains surrounded by countries that absolutely despise them, either because of the territorial concessions or other differences, and therefore you made them say the famous simpsons quote: "* chuckles *, I'm in Danger!" Very nice detail!
@grumpiesttitan7930
@grumpiesttitan7930 8 ай бұрын
Please make another part!!! This is so intresting, harkens back to the days of countryballs on yt
@agreatmanlookingtotheright
@agreatmanlookingtotheright 8 ай бұрын
Germany doesnt have to fight a 2 front war against the entire world all at once solo. This is preety much a wrap for who wins.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 8 ай бұрын
Well this is a far more canonically stable but far less militarized Germany.
@ibraheemshuaib8954
@ibraheemshuaib8954 8 ай бұрын
​@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547less militarised, yes, but can still potentially pack a heavy punch if the German Empire is anything to go by.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 8 ай бұрын
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 the German empire had a long history of military tradition to pull of which was closely integrated with the landed nobility which probably would favor Russia over this German state.
@ibraheemshuaib8954
@ibraheemshuaib8954 8 ай бұрын
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 true, but provided the Republic takes the old prussian military system and properly adapts it to modern circumstances, they can be a force to he reckoned with as the average German was very nationalistic and patriotic due to their military culture.
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 8 ай бұрын
There's also the thing of Russia having just recently won that gruesome 7 year war with Japan. Russia looks big on the map but they're probably depleted right now.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Balkans: Croatia: Hey, dear neighbour, what are those guys doing over there? Serbia: I don't know, dear neighbour, some usual silly businesses of their own. Croatia: Well, thank God we ain't getting involved in that. Cheers! Serbia: Cheers!
@zChad791
@zChad791 8 ай бұрын
Video idea:what if everything went PERFECT for britain?
@maxthetube8466
@maxthetube8466 8 ай бұрын
eh nations like uk and the ottomans already had anear perfect scenario, and if you make them even stronger itll get out of hand probably
@FORDGT40_SPITFIRE
@FORDGT40_SPITFIRE 8 ай бұрын
​@@maxthetube8466it would be sick to make them practically rule the world though 😂
@WaterLemon147
@WaterLemon147 8 ай бұрын
Im 6 minutes in and im so surprised this is going better than our timeline
@bauschaum2158
@bauschaum2158 8 ай бұрын
Im german and this brought a tear to my eye. Truly the best timeline.
@Wertzuio
@Wertzuio 8 ай бұрын
before we make germany democratic we have to consider the freikorps and the fact they almost overthrew the government the weimar system is bound to collapse in almost any scenario the republic itself prepared to reclaim their lost land there wont be pro french sentiment THAT soon
@ayzekpie9432
@ayzekpie9432 8 ай бұрын
Franco German Polish alliance is so wholesome 😊❤
@randomclownguy6
@randomclownguy6 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Japan would accept the lighter peace deal, since during WW2 one of the reasons they held on for so long was so that peace deal may be lighter on them. That being said, it also makes sense that Japan would continue fighting in the hopes of keeping more land (like parts of the trans-siberian railway)
@bigup6126
@bigup6126 8 ай бұрын
this has to be one of the best scenarios I've ever seen
@n0obi
@n0obi 8 ай бұрын
I dunno, i think this would be the PERFECT Hoi4 mod (had to propose it ok?), need someone to make this w some changes. Imagine fighting the strong Russians or helping the balkan wars
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 8 ай бұрын
I am guessing ww2 in this timeline is going to be Germany, France, Poland, Japan, Latvia, Finland, Sweden, and Ukraine Vs Russia, Italy, China, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Turkey, and Italy
@admiraloscar3320
@admiraloscar3320 7 ай бұрын
Some of the balkan nations would likely try to rebel
@sprintfoxy1240
@sprintfoxy1240 8 ай бұрын
Bro how does after 2 years PH's viewers are still on that "Ukraine independant no matter what !" larping
@1337Adabed
@1337Adabed 8 ай бұрын
Because even in 17th century Poland there were Cossack uprisings for independence?
@sprintfoxy1240
@sprintfoxy1240 8 ай бұрын
@@1337Adabed doesnt justify modern border since y'know, Russianization was a thing and the border wouldnt be so clean.
@just_inker2584
@just_inker2584 7 ай бұрын
@@sprintfoxy1240 the borders were clean in 1917-1920. Are jealous or something?
@sprintfoxy1240
@sprintfoxy1240 7 ай бұрын
@@just_inker2584 really not
@just_inker2584
@just_inker2584 7 ай бұрын
@@sprintfoxy1240 I see, that's why you liked your comment.
@AZGamezYT
@AZGamezYT 8 ай бұрын
7:10 we all know who this man is...
@nadri3335
@nadri3335 8 ай бұрын
He doesnt say there wont be a part 3, so guys, keep your notifications checked :D
@captainH023
@captainH023 8 ай бұрын
While I know that a strong Russia is required to make a credible threat to the Franco-German-Polish alliance since Italy by themselves are nowhere near enough, the idea of a strong, stable Russia after restoring absolute monarch status to the guy which have proven time and time again that he really shouldn't be given that much power, and very few in Russia at the time wanted to have back is kinda wack
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po
@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po 8 ай бұрын
Scenario Idea: What if the Teutonic Order survived?
@Royal_NavyM
@Royal_NavyM 6 ай бұрын
Can we get another part to this? This is really good.
@gabrielreid4950
@gabrielreid4950 8 ай бұрын
I know a certain someone is fuming rn because how dare you involve your community 😂
@LoanShark_totallyreal
@LoanShark_totallyreal 8 ай бұрын
Josh? Lol
@myri_the_weirdo
@myri_the_weirdo 8 ай бұрын
Small thing: on the russia map, it's still 1914 germany
@The-Plaguefellow
@The-Plaguefellow 8 ай бұрын
This would make for an awesome multi-part alternate history novel series exploring this world through the eyes of its various inhabitants.
@konduktorpklpriv3133
@konduktorpklpriv3133 8 ай бұрын
Wholesome, Weimar Triangle existing in Inter-War period, and with Polish-German borders actually being on the Ethnic lines. Best scenario so far
@dougfowler1368
@dougfowler1368 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this and I'm looking forward to more eventually. What happens next will be really interesting but just Britain in isolation is unusual. This has created a lot of great stuff, but I especially love the stuff with Poland getting a place in the sun once again.
@Kerosa_7
@Kerosa_7 8 ай бұрын
I wonder who was the leader of bavaria hmmm
@someguy6508
@someguy6508 8 ай бұрын
All I can think is this would be a fun hoi4 Mod
@Counterfactualy_no
@Counterfactualy_no 6 ай бұрын
Day 10 asking for "What if Everything Went Perfect for Romania"
@shoff703
@shoff703 8 ай бұрын
Nice vid! But I have a question, why would Reactionary Russia under the lead of conservative Emperor support recent enemies, especially Turkey instead of Orthodox Greece?
@shadowduke1535
@shadowduke1535 8 ай бұрын
Yeah they would have tried to turn greece.into a puppet state more then anything
@jevinliu4658
@jevinliu4658 8 ай бұрын
Russia wants a weak and divided Balkans if it does not get control over it
@shoff703
@shoff703 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@jevinliu4658meh, I can believe in only-balkan wars which will weaken Balkan states. But giving the Turks opportunity to take desired for centuries important christian city, like wtf?
@aethynlorimer9593
@aethynlorimer9593 4 ай бұрын
1:14 I love reading this so much
@zlboyle90
@zlboyle90 8 ай бұрын
An important lesson to learn, never let ph viewers decide anything in geopolitics. Especially peace deals.
@rishigauswami1987
@rishigauswami1987 8 ай бұрын
PLEASE CONTINUE THIS IT'S SO GOOD
@aveeeeen
@aveeeeen 8 ай бұрын
MAKE A PART 3 THIS IS SO INTRIGUING
@Krasipol
@Krasipol 8 ай бұрын
The first half of this began so well, but it couldn´t just stay peaceful. At the end the stage was quite threatening (Japan kind of reminds me of NKorea?).
@LYamal19fan
@LYamal19fan 8 ай бұрын
Hey Possible History! I have and idea for a video, What If Boris III of Bulgaria didn't die in 1943, joins the Allies and won WWII with the Allies!
@surrenderfire6029
@surrenderfire6029 8 ай бұрын
I have become genuinely invested in this alternate history scenario and would love to see more on it
@azlanadil3646
@azlanadil3646 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I sincerely doubt this would happen.
@LongTran-kp3kz
@LongTran-kp3kz 8 ай бұрын
...And we STILL couldn't avoid WWII... Awesome.
@FillUserChill
@FillUserChill Ай бұрын
1:12 "you're putting FRANCE in charge?!" Poland could not roast France more🙏😭
@Hallunke1848
@Hallunke1848 8 ай бұрын
You have to make a sequel to this scenario. It´s simply great :D
@alexattfield3885
@alexattfield3885 8 ай бұрын
Could we have a What if Everything went perfect for United Kingdom 🇬🇧 pleasr
@raposaarvorelua4099
@raposaarvorelua4099 8 ай бұрын
loving the new style of the videos, always having to add "would, could, or maybe" tends to get really boring
@かたわれ時-e7x
@かたわれ時-e7x 8 ай бұрын
Oh come on we gave Italy more territory specifically to prevent Mussolini from coming back
@wojtekpolska1013
@wojtekpolska1013 3 ай бұрын
idk if mussolini would come to power in italy that was given so much by after ww1 big part of why mussolini got to power is because the italians felt betrayed for not getting almost anything after the war
@gojiraguy3929
@gojiraguy3929 8 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about if everything went perfect for the ottomans? Like in general. If they had won most of the significant conquests.
@LoanShark_totallyreal
@LoanShark_totallyreal 8 ай бұрын
Would be more interesting if it was after 1700
@gojiraguy3929
@gojiraguy3929 8 ай бұрын
@@LoanShark_totallyreal yeah, like what fi the "great decline" of the ottoman empire didn't happen/ was avoided and instead they were able to conquer more lands
@darkseeker1784
@darkseeker1784 8 ай бұрын
Becoming danish... truly a horrible fate for Holstein
@isaacskinner5565
@isaacskinner5565 8 ай бұрын
We NEED a part 3.
@TheDefinitionOfAnIdiot
@TheDefinitionOfAnIdiot 8 ай бұрын
What if the Louisiana Purchase was the last US expansion of land in the West?
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 8 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for this
@Alexander-lg1pk
@Alexander-lg1pk 8 ай бұрын
Video idea : we decide the outcome of every revolution in 1848
@Ja2Kob
@Ja2Kob 8 ай бұрын
So in this timeline Japan essentially became north korea on steroids?
@ramble21
@ramble21 8 ай бұрын
Really want to see a "What if everything went PERFECT" video for Greece
@wezq1424
@wezq1424 8 ай бұрын
Can you make a part 2?
@austriahungary4935
@austriahungary4935 8 ай бұрын
Suggestion of a what if: What if Napoleon escaped to Brazil? In 1817, 2 years had passed since Napoleon lost in waterloo and some revolutionaries from Pernambuco (state of Brazil in the Northeast) had an impossible plan to liberate napoleon from his exile in St helens. Since Napoleon was a admired not only by the French but by Revolutionaries and independent movements from south america that even the peruvians and chileans had discussed this before. The plan was that a Revolutionary known as "Cabugá" would go to the USA and buy some weapons to fight off the rule of Dom João VI of Portugal and would later recruit 4 french veterans. But when they arrived at the city of Recife (Recife is a city in Pernambuco that is a state of Brazil in the Northeast) The portuguese arrested the 4 french veterans and the plan would have never been continued. But, what if it went different? What if Cabugá managed to recruit more french veterans? What if they did managed to rescue Napoleon?
@Tom_Achoo
@Tom_Achoo 8 ай бұрын
I only recently got into alternate history and this is the most interesting (and stupid, in a good way) alt history video I've ever watched. Lmao.
@dodo_hd9572
@dodo_hd9572 8 ай бұрын
idk if there is a french Indochina, but if there is I think they would get involved in the Russian Japenese war
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