Post drill crank handle

[@ericdouglas9804]

Glad the package arrived. Thanks for the shout

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks again!

[@DavidGrassSr]

Now i see why blacksmiths didn't live that lone, its nice to show people what it was like back in the day. Thanks, See Ya Texas, I rang the bell ?

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@hillsworth8446]

My favorite quote..."when these were common, people weren't in a hurry." Love it!!! Love watching your work!

[@bennyhill3642]

I'm tired from watching you drill that hole lol Great Video Love the old tools!!!😇🖒

[@robphone4895]

Drilled about 50 holes this morning. Thanks Mr. Edison.... Although I could use the workout. Actually because of the blacksmithing my right arm has more muscle than my left.

[@BlackBearForge]

standing in front of a drill press for an hour gets old. But way better than hand cranking

[@danapitts696]

John, as usual, I enjoyed this video. Earlier this year I refurbished an painted an old post drill, marked " PD 20", I think it was sold by hardware stores in the west 100 year ago or so. It is a lot of fun, especially to show the grand children along with the victrola, and the hand crank ice cream maker. They keep looking for the cord. Thanks again, till next video..

[@fedderback1]

When I was a kid my cousin had a much smaller drill like that. He would drill holes with it but it was us kids doing the cranking,smart man.

[@topinstructordrivingschool4447]

I just love these old school machines, first time i see a drill like that. Thank you sir.

[@markmcmeen287]

Really good restoration ideas. I have an old post drill that needs work. Thanks for the pointers for getting it back in working order. You have to respect the people who made a living with this type tool.

[@mountaincrittercreations2596]

I love seeing old tools come back to life! Take care an stay healthy

[@motd8931]

I have an old champion 400 blower I inherited from my grandpa. The gears inside were removed and a pulley was attached to the fan shaft, probably to run like you explained for the drill press. I've been brain storming how to convert it back to a hand crank, and this video has given me some ideas. Thank you for making it!

[@thymekiller]

Nice vid, lovely drill press. Thanks for sharing

[@donaldlindstrom2739]

I have a smaller model as well as this size. Nostalgic ornaments for sure.

[@robertwhitney2232]

I bought one in 1970 it had been converted to be powered by a Sears & Roebuck electric motor. I used it for meany years, still mounted on the wall in the garage, I was showing a fellow blacksmith last summer, I flipped the switch and its ready to work. Mine also has no name on it, the flywheel has been moved to the right side for the proper rotation of the motor, the flywheel also has the slot for a hand crank all cast as one. I am all set to drill holes even with a power failure.

[@kenbrundage5528]

For those who have never used one: My p. drill will crank from the fly wheel or the others side, ie from the left or the right. Be mindful that one gear is held by a right-handed thread. Don't crank in the wrong direction. Use the best drill bits possible. You should be able to turn out a long spiral, not just metal chips. Finally, your mild steel must be well annealed to approximate the softness of true wrought iron. Don't water-cool forging that later will be drilled. Thanks for all your excellent demos.

[@BlackBearForge]

I actually spun it backwards trying to get the oil to work in better and that gear came off. Suddenly the whole thing spun very easy and kept going when I let go. So its that one odd gear that is tight.

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

I have the exact same post drill. I will be doing a restoration on it in the near future.

[@kensmapleleafretirement]

Good fun. Nice chat. Thanks .....

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Good video John, thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@leifpaulin5358]

I have one of these too. Now I will take a closer look on it this summer!

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

Thank you Mr John

[@marcleblanc7021]

I love old tools and machines. Look how old it is but will definitely do the job. Amazing

[@elliotwhite32]

set screw video would be awesome

[@beni2094]

Always the most interesting content and projects! Very grateful

[@davidsimons9132]

Thanks for the video John, those old tools were simply amazing. Loved it. Keep up the good work.

[@glencrandall7051]

I seem to remember my Dad having one of those drills. It would have been in the 40"s and I would have been 7 or 8 so I could be wrong. I don't see you using yours much. LOL. Thank you for sharing. Stay healthy.

[@georgem7965]

You have done the same thing that I did when mounting my post drill, mounting it so the height of the axis of the crank is about at shoulder level. After I mounted mine I came across a reference that said a hand crank drill should be mounted so that the top of the stroke of the handle is at the same level as the shoulder because your shoulder muscles work most efficiently when pushing straight away or pulling straight in. That said, I will not be remounting mine since it was a job and a half for my son and I to mount it. I have a Caneday-Otto No. 2 which must weigh close to 200 pounds. As you say, drilling a few holes with a hand crank illustrates why blacksmiths punch holes whenever possible. George M. Westmarch Forge Laramie WY

[@BlackBearForge]

Thank for the tip. Lowering would make the upper wheel easier to adjust as well

[@ChirpysTinkerings]

Looks good john, I think the tapered/teardrop shaped handle actually looks better on that than a straight shape handle would. After it gets a bit of dirty hands and grunge on it, it'll fit right in and you'd think it was original.

[@tomscreations3309]

Thanks for the inspiration for my own channel

[@oddwoodforge2305]

Functional piece of art. Love the old stuff

[@maniacofthewoods5510]

How convenient! I’ve been in the process of repairing my post drill for a year and still need to replace the ugly handle I made.

[@brysonalden5414]

A hot cut hardy works faster (for me) than an angle grinder, and punching is often faster than drilling, but what does it matter? Thanks for restoring a piece of our history.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Great for workouts. Nice unit still. Nice job.

[@clydebalcom8252]

I love that drill. I've seen a few over the years.

[@paddysscrapshop7182]

That handle turned out nice, looking forward to see the update on this post drill. I wouldn't be without my Brandson No 14 hand cranked pillar drill (they're sorta like the American post drill but they have a cast base/stand).

[@johnjude2685]

After the fine repair would it be best to heat up and apply linseed oil on for a beautiful finish John Switzer teaching is the best way to learn a lot more than Blacksmith only Thanks you Sir

[@BlackBearForge]

I will be oiling or waxing once the other minor parts are ready, such as better set screws

[@GaryForgingOn]

We have a couple in our club/guild blacksmith shop. I think on ours, you could adjust the down speed on top. But I could be wrong.

[@shadetreeforge]

Gary, the one in the blacksmith club I belong to (same drill) has an adjustable stop that limits how far back the arm drops, the farther it drops back the more teeth the the pawl will engage the farther the down feed wheel will turn per stroke.

[@stevesalles6047]

I own one of these the same size I found at a garage sale that was rusted together for $25.00 in Portland Oregon I took it apart and restored it , it works well for me

[@jandastroy]

I've personally had a lot of success with silicone grease in old fashioned moving parts, although it might not be ideal for a drill since it can catch a lot of dust. It really fixed the hinges in an old scroll saw I restored recently. Not sure how the longevity of it will be yet though. Definitely nicer to work with than some of the other goops out there.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks for sharing

[@billwoehl3051]

Watching you crank and holding the material shows exactly why they made it auto down feed.

[@BlackBearForge]

Very true

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Hello John I love your postdrill i have such a old maschine too but i have a Elektro Motor with a belt to the drill As i see your video i know now why my drill was changed from Handcrank to elekto 😉😉 But your handcrank looks nice and i have learned from you Thanks for sharing your skills All the best Yours Frank

[@douglasfathers4848]

That is one of the most amazing drill i have ever seen John thanks for the history lesson .

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jjholl3826]

Such and awesome tool! I would live to visit a shop with flat belt line drives running! Thanks for sharing John! 😎👍

[@bobvines00]

Dave Richards on KZbin has a steam-powered machine shop up in New York with all of the line shafts & flat belts. You can watch his videos to see how it works. And he makes money too. But, he _doesn't_ use a hand-crank drill press. ;)

[@bhein67]

Cool piece of equipment. I think I'll stick with my drill press...LOL Cheers from Canada

[@scottkline2021]

Just got a handle on my old champion also recently but still go to the electric drill press first. like you I love having it in shop for looks love the video

[@newtsleatherandmetalsmithy1827]

John my business partner and I have several post drills only 2 of which are in working order I am sure that Greg and I can be convinced to break one or more down for parts so you can get yours as close to original as possible

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks for the offer, but I would hate to steal part from another drill. Especially since they may not be compatible.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

That is an interesting piece of equipment. When you started with the heavy wall pipe the old carpenter in me started thinking about shims to make it fit, your plan was better than mine. I'd love to have on in my shop as an ornament as well. Unfortunately I don't have a post...

[@jensdavidsen4557]

I've got a Buffalo post drill - the thing is awesome - based on the tiny chips you're producing there, either your drill bit is super dull or your drill's feed rate is much slower than mine - I get wonderful corkscrew chips and the perceived effort is really not bad - looked like you were really struggling.

[@Stabalot88]

It needs a motor on the side... Too much handy work !! :D

[@GodschildinNC]

So cool!!! I am so into non electric shops! You could set up a foot treadle to run it, and it would be less of a work out.

[@bobvines00]

John, if i can't find an affordable post drill, I may start measuring the post drill at our Blacksmith meeting location so I can make patterns and have the pieces cast from iron like the originals. Windy Hill Foundry here on KZbin does a lot of cast iron work and _might_ be affordable for an individual.

[@BlackBearForge]

Sounds like an ambitious project.

[@mandolinman2006]

Talk to Tim at Big Dog Forge about multiple cameras. He has a killer setup in his shop she's used.

[@neilgillmore]

Look forwards to the next live stream BBF

[@NeilGraham.I.M.F]

It sure would be neat to have. Big John at Old Hickory Forge has a fully intact operational champion. Showed it off a bit in his latest video, I don't know if it's the same as your old one or not though

[@Lesnz2009]

interesting video.

[@65burnie]

I need to do the same exact thing, thanks

[@jjppres]

Pretty cool John! Almost had to be some gear adjustments to speed up the process. I've seen others use thiers and it appears it went much quicker. Like you say try that other shaft. Pretty cool old tool to have in the shop though.

[@BlackBearForge]

I pulled that second gear today and it went much smother, that bearing isn't seized but its really tight. Hopefully good oil bath will loosen it up some

[@cojones8518]

I was getting real nervous when you were cranking on that drill with that jagged piece of sheet metal there.

[@BlackBearForge]

Its not as close as it seems in the camera view. But it serves as a heat shield for the little wood stove and will have to stay.

[@jimhumphrey]

If you keep using that drill we may start calling you Hulk Switzer!

[@BlackBearForge]

Only on the right side

[@opwards]

Just thinking out loud here. Back when many shops had strikers i wonder if the smith would put the striker to use running the hand crank on the post drill for them?????? Food for thought anyway i guess.

[@BlackBearForge]

Seems very likely

[@victorgonzalez1564]

Buen ritmo, seguro que no quemarás un mecha en tu vida con esa velocidad de avance!

[@Redneckemtb]

Cool old tool. Maybe you could hook up with the guy that runs Hand Tool Rescue on youtube. Pulling apart and restoring things like that drill is what he does. Might even be a cool cross promotion/collaboration for the two of you.

[@BlackBearForge]

Interesting idea

[@TheOldaz1]

I used one about the same in my (long lost) youth. Need to clean all the bearing surfaces and properly lubricate so the flywheel can do it's job, also you have the handle too long, should be "comfortable" to use.

[@ga5743]

Beautiful piece of equipment, just don’t injure your hammer arm. Thanks for posting the video.

[@stevenpolitte4628]

Lower your drill a few inches so that your arm is almost straight out when the hand crank it strait up. This will give your body the most mechanical advantage to crank the drill.

[@BlackBearForge]

good sugestion

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

No, that drill press is running stiff and dry. It should be easy to crank. I can take my finger and crank my drill press once and it will keep spinning around one or two revolutions. It should be able to drill a hole faster and easier than that also. I use mine all the time. You should disassemble and clean it throughly.

[@Frie_Jemi]

Streaming software makes collaboration easy... If your second closeup cam is linked to a separate KZbin account you just collab both, or one then the other intermittently, on the stream. StreamYard is really easy.

[@BlackBearForge]

I'll take a look.

[@flatlander6734]

There should be a handle on the upper feed wheel to aid in adjusting the drill height.

[@BlackBearForge]

Yes there should be. Just another piece to make

[@billwoehl3051]

Guy that comes into landlords shop has a post drill for sale for $75, am hoping to get it when my next check comes in. Update on the post drill in comments above.

[@erikcourtney1834]

I see exactly why they had it hooked up to a belt system.

[@erikcourtney1834]

😂 John said it right after I commented. I shouldn’t comment and watch at the same time.

[@stuartmcintosh5709]

Could be used for the odd countersink which wouldn’t take much effort

[@josediaz1484]

A foot pedal like the one on an old sewing machine would work well.

[@CleaveMountaineering]

Have a race - cordless handheld drill vs post drill, do 10 identical holes with each.

[@micky8912]

you might need to lower it, i think the pivot should be closer to shoulder height. you are also missing a crank handle for the down drive.

[@grandadz_forge]

I got winded just watching you drill. Lol

[@BlackBearForge]

Me too

[@donpegar2645]

I use mine to drill hardened steel

[@54jake451]

Hi John, for your set screws, would you be able to get thumb screws as tight as you'd need? That would be a nice little forging job to make some thumb screws.

[@BlackBearForge]

I think I would prefer the extra security of tightening with a wrench. But I have done a video on thumb screws. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oauWen2gm5qHkJo

[@williammorris1763]

sounds like you need some spindle oil in that thing the friction on these things killed me after one hole

[@billmaguire6216]

Are those Roper Whitney number 16 bench punches across from the post drill? Thanks for sharing.

[@BlackBearForge]

Yes they are

[@louispassmore4740]

When you start doing live videos will it be at certain time and day each month or weekend. Very cool drill press never seen one like that before

[@BlackBearForge]

My initial goal is to time them for when our local group had in person demos scheduled. So that would be on a Saturday at 9:00 but if they are something people want more of I may pick another time as well. I do think they need to be predictable for people to know about them in advance.

[@louispassmore4740]

Ok I really injoyed the live video hope to see a lot more of them

[@thebreadpeddler6879]

What are the chances! Just had a post drill accident today. I was cleaning it for the first time and it slipped off my lap whilst the gears were moving and crushed the tip of my right pinky...... just got out of the ER!

[@BlackBearForge]

Ouch, I hope you heal qickly

[@thebreadpeddler6879]

Black Bear Forge Thanks John, keep up the good work

[@rockycarr8344]

I will shoot a video of mine in the next couple of days. Is there a way you will see the video if I post it on you tube and send you a link? I think your handle is way to long. My (or should I say, one of my) drill presses simply has two different handles on the same pulley. It runs at two speeds depending on which handle you grab. And yes, I have drilled half inch plate but prefer using the electric. The post vices are just a part of my collecting old hand tools. Should we even bring up the trash can full of brace and bits or the number of hand planes?

[@BlackBearForge]

How long is your handle? Yes, you may just leave a comment with the link

[@BB_46]

Do you think the original handle had a counter weight ball on the opposite end of the handle? 👍

[@BlackBearForge]

None of the old catalog illustrations show one, but had wondered about it before looking at the images

[@abebeaku8369]

with this machine, you can add egg beater attachment and make yourself breakfast :)

[@BlackBearForge]

Great idea! 😄

[@jimc4731]

It seems you use that hammer a lot, is it your favorite? JIM

[@BlackBearForge]

One of several favorites

[@markmossinghoff8185]

Turning that drill would be a nice job for a little hit and miss engine.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thats probably what ran the overhead shaft.

[@Redneckemtb]

On a tool related topic, I always see smith's using post vices as opposed to bench vices. Is there a particular reason for this and what are the pros/cons of using each?

[@BlackBearForge]

A regular machinist vise is a precision tool and they don't stand up to lots of heavy hammering. The post vise transfers the impact down the leg into the ground plus the vise jaw is not supported by the screw so it doesn't get abused. Its nice to have both, especially if you can get a really heavy machinist vise.

[@Redneckemtb]

@@BlackBearForge fair enough, thanks. I know a new heavy bench vice that's worth a damb starts at 600 bucks, I have no idea what the going rate for a post vice is.

[@pauljarine]

What’s the purpose of the twist in that cross peen? Is it if that flat edge is not perpendicular to the handle? Thank you.

[@BlackBearForge]

Actually referred to as a diagonal peen. It makes it more comfortable for drawing out with the peen. I don't find it useful enough to wish I had it on other hammers.

[@rockycarr395]

I finally got around to measuring the handle length on my post drill. Here is a short video with the length and 2 speed operation. For some reason my mind was on a post vice when I described it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXPbYmiViKeKptE

[@jeremiahjohnson1325]

If nothing else it can be used to get your self wormed up first thing on a cold day just drill a quick hole

[@patrickconnell223]

Now we know why they invented electric drills.

[@TerrolAxelor]

Why not use wing screws instead of square bolts? That way you don't need to keep a wrench next to the press

[@BlackBearForge]

If this was something that saw regular adjustment that would be a good idea. But I suspect once I find the right handle length I won't change it and using a wrench will be more secure.