POST OFFICE SCANDAL: Fujitsu expert whinges his words are being 'picked apart' by KC

[@martinsigley3957]

This case must have the greatest number of cases of amnesia ever seen in British legal history. Also incompetence.

[@garyhope3731]

And the PO employed them all.

[@dimsoneill]

It’s like the guys from MIB arrived with their forgetting ray and gave PO management and Mr Jenkins a good blast.

[@hillaryclinton1314]

I am sorry.. what? I forgot what you said..

[@andydudley1775]

@@garyhope3731 this is not just PO we got these people in courts we got them in the police we even got them in the army .and they all think we here to serve them a suffer in silence.dare we question it .

[@brimkathstampex2306]

"I can't remember the details I'm afraid".

[@amandalewis-im3vf]

I've been glued to this inquiry and Mr Beer KC is outstanding and Sir Win is constantly on the ball. Incredible work by all... and the victims of this heartbreaking injustice deserve to have everything and everyone exposed.

[@brimkathstampex2306]

But they will also have be severely punished, which will not happen.

[@Fadingfool]

This is the same gentleman that wanted immunity from prosecution for appearing in this public enquiry.

[@CountessNachtfrost1]

Very generous of you to call him a gentleman - you have a forgiving heart.

[@fireskycam9889]

Only guilty people seek immunity

[@anaitali8256]

One suspects he is neither gentle or a man, he lacks all elements of being a gentleman. The hell-fire awaits him.

[@TheKARMMARK]

He should be in Belmarsh. He knew exactly what he was doing and saying.

[@fleshboundtobone]

@@fireskycam9889 behave mate, you ever sat on a jury? It's terrifying to see the mechanism of guilty verdicts in this country

[@theobserver2309]

"I'm going to continue the picking apart, if I may." Mate, I fell of my chair, right there. I've had two good laughs out of this entire sorry mess - Jason Beer's statement here to the bearded one, and watching Paula Vennells' tears of self pity.

[@axnax1]

With you there mate. Vennells and her 'tears of self pity' were a pathetic spectacle in the light of what she'd overseen. Got a CBE and a fantastic bonus for it too.

[@cherryrotella3714]

Yes he’s being asked to account for what he has said which he is attempting to dodge

[@anaitali8256]

Mr Beer is a Legend!

[@christopher-ke9nj]

The only time a crocodile cries is when it has one in it's jaws

[@campbellanderson2100]

He seems to be totally unmoved that he contributed to the misery of so many innocent people.

[@cassandratq9301]

He may be on the spectrum.

[@AndyCutright]

​@@cassandratq9301He's on the spectrum of shiftless and immoral men, that's for sure.

[@michaelmcginley7930]

​@@AndyCutrightcorrect

[@laxeystu8096]

I think the questioning reflects that they are trying to help him explain his position in depth I suspect they perhaps won't try to punish him further He was a victim of a corrupt system as well as a contributor to it This intelligent guy could have been a great assistance to the whole disastrous sequence, yet he is seen as a villain

[@brimkathstampex2306]

@@laxeystu8096 Not just seen. He is.

[@willshuttleworth2562]

This man has been found out and he knows that.... Jason beer is just way too conversant on what inquiry's purpose is, hats off to him 👏👍

[@michaelmcginley7930]

The problem is Gareth Jenkins will still escape prosecution

[@brimkathstampex2306]

@@michaelmcginley7930 Of course he will, as will all the rest of them. I'll tell you now, not one of them will go to prison, or be fined or receive any form of appropriate punishment.

[@davdave3470]

Never allow yourself to be cross examined by a British KC unless you are the best method actor in the world. This bloke is squirming in his seat.

[@MargaretClark-lz6oo]

And so he should be. A liar.

[@stephenpowers51]

Wrong above and below.

[@aw6936]

"English" KC, please - Scottish law is completely different.

[@davdave3470]

@@aw6936 KC are the same even in Scotland - Scotish baresters certainly plead in the Royal Courts of Justice in London.

[@MZig-rw7su]

He's part of the problem and is so pompous in his aloofness.

[@cassandratq9301]

He's such a technocrat, he is STILL unaware of how out of his depth he was when he was acting as a witness. And he is STILL convinced that he performed his "main job" - keeping the Horizon system operating correctly - correctly and well.

[@rosssimpson6268]

@@cassandratq9301 I don't believe 'technocrat' is the correct term - as this implies using tech knowledge to exert control! To me, he's simply a (highly skilled) technician whose aim was to maintain the overall integrity of Horizon - and its data.

[@hotpotato4027]

@@rosssimpson6268 highly skilled? That needs citation…😂

[@AndyBeez]

So it was all about protecting the Horizon system from scrutiny rather than ensuring the Horizon system's integrity? Spot the use of the term "moral implications" in the emails. The moral implication was people died. Pick those words apart.

[@richardperry9218]

Gareth Jenkins is clearly still in denial. The KC is quite rightly tearing him apart. Jenkins obviously does not believe he has done any wrong. The prison time spent by innocent sub-postmasters is just another minor data blip to him. What a sorry excuse for a human being. Give him plenty of years in prison to contemplate his idiocy and put his chain of command in there to keep him company.

[@stephenpowers51]

I choose to differ. Mr Jenkins wasn't paid to be an all-seeing fount of wisdom, in full knowledge of every legal implication involved in his job, which is all he did. Maybe not too well, but that's not the issue. He was asked to do something, he did it. Mr Beer wishes to suggest there was a higher, sinister motive in Mr Jenkins's every action. Rubbish. That he might have been treated as a 'useful idiot' by others isn't Mr Jenkins's fault. I rather admire him, his ingenuousness. Barely once did he revert to the standard PO line: "I dont recall."

[@Jambozal]

​@@stephenpowers51Paula is that you?

[@stephenpowers51]

@@Jambozal No, but you seem very familiar with her, first name terms and all that. Did you dorm together at St Trinians?

[@anaitali8256]

@@Jambozal- well said.

[@GaryCareyMusic]

@@stephenpowers51 he has his own line: I realise now but I didn't understand it at the time...

[@IanMcLeod-j2v]

He loves being a distinguished engineer and an expert witness. They come with a large degree of integrity and competence - think he missed that bit…

[@aw6936]

And he never was challenged as to why he permitted himself to be designated "Doctor" Jenkins in any number of emails.

[@oghamstone5964]

All the responsibility but none of the accountability.

[@Scooter2Lambo]

Expert witness should be jailed for the same time as their victims if they give dishonest statements

[@jameswoodford2628]

If you think he is pompous now as some of you appear to, just imagine what he was like in his mid 40s when this was all evolving, probably even worse, young dudes know it all.

[@amoswittenbergsmusings]

When he started his evidence on Monday, I strongly felt he was honest and open. I have completely changed my mind. He knew that the system was crap. He knew Fujitsu operated a boiler room to put out fires by frantically "fixing" data using sysadmin privileges. He knew those operations were undocumented and unreported. He knew Horizon was not to be relied on for slicing a loaf of bread, let alone sending a pregnant lady to jail. Yet, he was a willing participant in a criminal conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, a criminal joint enterprise to obtain money by deception from subpostmasters, a conspiuracy to defraud, a conspiracy to mislead Parliament and every ethical obligation arising from every corporate role the participants were fulfilling. It was extremely simple to "do the right thing" but it would have led to a political scandal that one billion pounds was spent on a pile of crap. Gareth Jenkins belongs in prison for a lengthy sentence. His best hope is a plea of insanity because he has a personality disorder. Maybe a clever neurologist can be a corrupt expert witness to state that his moral compass was fatally impaired.

[@cassandratq9301]

Where did it come out that he knew about the boiler room of people constantly using the sysadmin privileges?

[@amoswittenbergsmusings]

​@@cassandratq9301 They discussed the possibility of tinkering with the branch records remotely and spun a tale that they would have to write special code to do so. Anyone who has been active in software development knows about sysadmin privileges and that no such custom code would be needed!!! Jason Beer missed that one - but I did not. We also have testimony that Fujitsu frantically tried to avoid performance penalties by fixing errors - uncodumented and without an audit trail. It is inconceivable that Jenkins would have been unaware. This is not absolute proof but certainly enough reason to get more clarity. There must be some log of user privileges. A thorough forensic IT investigation should be able to find traces of these security holes. It is damned difficult to erase *all* traces. Find the people active in their "help" desk and grill them. Ann Chambers is one to warch. She was mirandaed by old Wyn. She was scared stiff when she testified. Mark my words: someone is going to crack soon. The full scale of the crime is not yet above the water line. Maybe some "losses" were deliberately created to extort money from subpostmasters - like, as long as we do not send them to prison but just use a theft charge to make them pay up. I am not saying this happened but I would not be surprised. At the very least everyone had a vested interest to hide the colossal heap of dung that Horizon was: Fujitsu, Post Office, Whitehall, the government and many in parliament. Meanwhile the lawyers had a goldmine paid for by you and me. The subpostmasters were merely collateral damage and the least important in the equation - until they became Public Enemy #1. From that moment on it was a war of attrition which the rich and powerful almost won. Where is the guillotine when you need it?

[@glencoe8251]

When did they start referring to hom as Dr Jenkins and why did they not stop calling this fool a Dr.

[@joshuaryan1946]

This is one of the best summaries I have read! That's exactly what happened.

[@mapleveritas2698]

@@cassandratq9301 Changing data at the back end is done using sysadmin privileges. And only a few people have sysadmin privileges. These people are usually responsible for the maintenance of the system. They are not supposed to be changing data at the backend. So, the characteristics are entirely correct. It was a boiler room of sysadmins changing data, which is a complete no-no and completely unprofessional without the knowledge of the people affected by the modification of said data. Solution two does have a moral implication that is not stated in the document, if I understand it correctly. Basically, repeated changing of the data at the backend without changing the values at the branches means that the numbers seen by the branches will get more or more fake, as the numbers at the back end will not be the same as the numbers at the branches. And the system is just basically a system that has to translate the numbers from the branches back and forth so that the numbers seen by the branches stay the same and the values at the backend stay the same, with something in between synchronizing the two sets of values. If the people using the privileges were not even sysadmins then it would be even worse. Completely unprofessional. His answer to the backdoor question is also very interesting. A backdoor is a backdoor whether it was created when the system was written or after it has been used in production. It is like saying the hole in the wall is not a hole in the wall because it was created after the house has been occupied. In a way, it is even worse that they created that backdoor (even tough he said they did not use it). So, the thief created a hole in the wall of your house, but since the hole has not been used to steal stuff from your house, it is all good. It is a not a hole, you see.

[@valansley]

Of course your words are being picked apart - THIS IS AN ENQUIRY - What planet is he on ??????

[@terryboland3816]

Now try watching it again and understanding the point that was being made.

[@dimsoneill]

@@terryboland3816What TF are you on about? OP was spot on. He is a filthy liar.

[@christophermcguire27]

​@@terryboland3816Why there's no reason the enquiry has every right to pick them apart

[@terryboland3816]

@@christophermcguire27 Yes, now try watching the video and understanding the point that was being made rather than basing your understanding of the world on misleading titles of youtube videos.

[@Simon-im2zn]

Gareth Jenkins should have been asked if he could ever recall being an 'expert witness'

[@cassandratq9301]

🎯

[@going2Mars]

He would no doubt say he misunderstood the question!

[@oehle1]

I belive that has already been asked and his answer was that wasn't aware of that until 2020. I'm not saying he was telling the truth but it has been addressed

[@adrianb5601]

Jason Beer is he now a National Treasure?

[@rayjones2150]

He should never have been called or put forward as an expert witness by PO solicitors. He designed / created Horizon -too biased. Also did not want to upset his bosses who in turn wanted to please one of their biggest gravy-train customers. The lawyers of Post Masters should have objected to GJ who had an interest in protecting his baby. PO lawyers used GJ as a naive shield - a head on a silver platter. The PO wanted a whitewash, Fuji was the brush, GJ the bucket.😂

[@cassandratq9301]

🎯🎯🎯

[@johnreed8336]

A very good analogy . Hope the police are taking notes on his complicate perjury .

[@i_kissed_a_pixie1537]

I’m afraid the whole point is to pick everything apart? It’s called a forensic analysis of the data

[@fireskycam9889]

Something he obviously knows nothing about

[@johnwright7895]

Brilliant Barrister.

[@davidrobertson9271]

“I’m going to continue picking apart, if I may?”. Splendid!

[@edwardlavington4690]

Guilty, weasling out of questions. All of them have such bad memories.

[@Electricdreams21]

Ignorance isn't an excuse within law so I hope they don't get away with it

[@michaelcarpenter9745]

JB is a legend!

[@ruthbeamish8849]

He must be exhausted!! ( J,B l mean)

[@mickymanchego3281]

`m sure he`ll manage a bit more"picking apart"

[@gdsmchris]

He deserves jail time along with vennels

[@rosssimpson6268]

Why?! What crime did he commit?

[@oldskoolbeats1989]

​@@rosssimpson6268lying under oath for starters

[@gdsmchris]

@@rosssimpson6268 really?

[@Eleventhearlofmars]

@@rosssimpson6268conspiracy, giving false evidence in court cases so perjury. There’s two for you.

[@apollomemories7399]

@@rosssimpson6268 Are you simple or something?

[@nigelmagnay1453]

Prison, prison prison, prison prison prison.

[@brimkathstampex2306]

I have grave doubts, but hope I'm wrong.

[@SkandiaAUS]

This lead prosecutor is insanely prepared. He stands there for hours bringing up emails that he has prepared questions on.

[@TheNames-4D]

It takes 100s of hours. It’s hard painstaking work.

[@misterbonzoid5623]

@@TheNames-4D He has staff. It's also why he is one of the top barristers in England, and the lead one here.

[@notmyrealname121]

dont forget? if post office had hired him, he would be in the chair now

[@williamwaynflete6336]

He's not a prosecutor because this isn't a court case. He's lead counsel to the Inquiry.

[@seanharrison-u4l]

hes incompetent and a liar he knows its not fit for purpose

[@brimkathstampex2306]

He's not fit for purpose either.

[@derekskinner4939]

Not wiggling or squirming was he! In fact if I didn't know better I would have thought that it was a Politician being interviewed.

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

😂 so aggressive and yet so polite at the same time

[@OMGrobloxandweird]

the guy sounds like he got dementia but evades questions like savvy but testified and put people in jail hope he goes to jail

[@coderider3022]

Clearly mutually assured destruction by everyone, if the fingers start getting pointed, they will all suddenly recover from their acute amnesia. He should have resigned from his job and not carried on.

[@cassandratq9301]

He did. He retired in 2015.

[@hotpotato4027]

@@cassandratq9301 TBF retiring is not resigning though is it! 🤷‍♂️

[@Eleventhearlofmars]

@@cassandratq9301on a nice pension I bet, he should have it taken back as proceeds of crime along with any property and goods he’s owning since he helped cover up this crime and conspired with others to hide facts that cost lives.

[@coderider3022]

@@cassandratq9301 should have went in 2010.

[@cassandratq9301]

Technically it is.

[@rosewhite---]

apologies for pickiing you apart! priceless!

[@mikeellis4345]

He whinged for total immunity too .. twice .. and was rejected

[@wanderingyoutube]

Too much effort was spent on preventing the issue becoming a possible questioning of the integrity of the system rather than fixing the issue altogether. The fact that he favours a back-end solution means that the problem is so fundamental that fixing it might create new problems. Better just fix it on the back-end and later remotely so as to not alert the SPMs

[@Bluetoothedshark]

The expression on his face is as if he'd just watched rain catching fire.

[@andrewtrip8617]

Tasty how he talks about “branches “ yet as an expert witness he put innocent “branches “behind bars to protect his faulty work .

[@MargaretClark-lz6oo]

Picking him apart? Good god, what a plonker.

[@FranklinYoung-s9d]

Simple perjury!He is supposed to be an intelligent man!

[@Mikeandlucy1]

Mistruth, mistruth, undergarment consumed by flames

[@ahorton6786]

🤣

[@johnreed8336]

+ PERJURY .

[@Jambozal]

🔥

[@Krispiefry]

I hope never to meet that first questioner at the pearly gates!

[@hollytalbot6695]

Don’t worry the pearly gates will be locked for Fujitsu and Post Office bosses..

[@dimsoneill]

I’d have some very tough questions for god. Start with “What’s with all the mass murder mate?” and go from there.

[@pat4brown]

@@dimsoneillMan is the problem with mass murder. If God gave us brains to make our own decisions, it’s up to us.

[@grumpyoldgit1844]

Working for the Post Office and Fujitsu is bad for your health and memory.All Guilty as hell the whole lot of them,not on their high horse now. If the police do nothing instead of charging them with a offence there should be an inquiry into thepolice.

[@EE16SVT]

every possibilty of that seeing as the Police will have to obey their masters

[@josephparry2229]

Don't know can't remember, what other words do they know 🤔

[@IngeDemmendaal]

What might be the polar opposite of "above and beyond"? Mr Jenkins is a prime example of that.

[@cocochel6244]

Entirely justified when one thinks that as a P.O EXPERT his words were expected to be sacrosanct and beyond criticism ... these people should be brought to JUSTICE

[@johnreed8336]

For perjury .

[@keithm6117]

Facanating... He remembers everything, dates, people, meetings yet seems to misunderstand an awful lot of very important questions "at the time" and now he is cleverly using "time" as his reson for not understanding the question properly.. This guy must have been a very successful Con man in a previous life, and here is is trying it on Again.. How is the British legal system going to serve the nation and deal with this scandal and ensure the people behind wrongfully commiting sub postmaster's get what's rightfully coming...

[@JelMain]

Four wild horses might be instructive.

[@hpmmiggie]

As I see it . PO and Fugitsu had a meeting where they agreed it was better to screw over sub postmasters than to admit that horizon was at fault. Well done mister Simon Jenkins, you have no sympathy from me. You can go to jail as far as Im concerned.

[@bend3rbot]

This programming buffoon was so confident in his ignorant presumptions that he just kept stepping on legal, ethics and professionalism rakes. His confidence in bumbling onward with "what is now regrettable" becomes ever less plausible. He comes across as genuine, but "genuinely dangerous" IS STILL DANGEROUS!!

[@dimsoneill]

He comes across as a liar with all the memory retention of a goldfish with alzheimers.

[@cassandratq9301]

Agree. But it's not necessarily criminal.

[@cassandratq9301]

"Stepping on legal and professional rakes" - great wordsmithing!

[@johnreed8336]

Yes it is criminal, it's perjury .

[@EthanZoid]

Think I have minor younger version of this at work. Built a whole IT architecture that no one uses and defends every criticism

[@AbAb-th5qe]

Wanted to hire an 'all knowing expert' did they? Maybe doing that is a dereliction of responsibility from management. Is it any wonder the notion of the 'rule of experts' is critisised?

[@EthanZoid]

@@AbAb-th5qeyep management doesn’t know anything about digitalisation so basically hired an idiot

[@damianleah6744]

What did this allegedly intelligent man think was going to happen after many people went to prison on his “expert” testimony. All of these people have no scruples and are morally bankrupt. Basically these disgusting people never in a million years thought these internal documents and statements would ever see the light of day. They were quite happy for people to be sent to prison to protect the company.

[@henrybartlett1986]

He seems unable to tell the truth and accept any responsibility. Not a shred of genuine remorse.

[@Awakenotwoke-lf3ej]

Evil evil evil people.....

[@philby99]

Amazing how he remembers so much other stuff but has no recollection of anything that might pin any guilt on him

[@wanderingyoutube]

Early online systems sometimes just provided a new interface via the internet but would just take the input and pass it to existing back-end systems. Then it would re-present the back end system's output. Meaning that the issue may have affected Horizon online because the cause could be the same as the legacy Horizon system.

[@juju1957k]

The ones to blame for sub postmasters being jailed and who lost their lives and livelihoods are PO top brass and under for demanding repayments of "missing money" before it held its own inquiry is this had been dealt with vice versa it wouldn't be such a bloody mess 😠

[@philipdevonald1273]

The calmness and precipice questioning by KC puts shivers down my spine, there are days when I can hardly remember my name, he would have a field day questioning me as to what I was doing 14 years ago

[@SRMT-en8yz]

Jenkins seems to rely totally on other people's word as fact. I think he thought Mr Beer would do the same with his witness statement. How wrong he was.

[@cassandratq9301]

I think he's on the spectrum.

[@hotpotato4027]

1:36 just unpick what he says here! “It wasn’t a case of covering it up, we just didn’t want any bad publicity" 🤷‍♂️🤔

[@cassandratq9301]

He honestly thinks there is a distinction. He's all logic + tech. He's smart but he's not good at understanding human motivations.

[@cassandratq9301]

And, TBF, those two things are not exactly the same. One is PR, the other is criminal conspiracy.

[@anthonydebski5814]

This arrogant, self-rightous & BADLY aware so-called 'expert' witness, needs BIG JAIL TIME!

[@johnreed8336]

For PERJURY !

[@owstonlad3859]

Once 'inside' he would do a Harold Shipman when the screws aren't watching.

[@terryboland3816]

Who needs a trial when we're so angry about a miscarriage of justice?

[@judewestburner]

When he finally goes to court will he be allowed to just 'not recall' major required evidence??

[@cassandratq9301]

This is the dress rehearsal for court.

[@davidconnor8062]

CREEP who was also responsible for innocent people having their lives ruined by his outfit

[@rmayhem9658]

This witness was a disgrace. When the inquiry brings all the testimonies together, they will see a level of backsliding and implausible amnesia that will surely warrant legal action

[@unam4264]

Brilliant Barrister

[@dandare1001]

It's strange that whoever said what in the meetings is not recorded. In my meetings we always write who raised the point. Is my company the exception?

[@Orwic1]

No, that happens with me, in meetings I attend as chair or ordinary member. And I keep my own notes: that’s come in very useful on many occasions.

[@MichaelgeorgeHolt]

Should all be made accountable 😮

[@anaitali8256]

Not just a liar, an incompetent liar

[@pw847]

Words picked apart . Poor him . Not !!! Does he ever consider the people whose lives he has Tore Apart !!!

[@seanmoyses]

Jason Beer nails another liar

[@peterrobierto7435]

Jadon Beer is just doing his job unlike the PO/fugitsu crowd.

[@Mike_5]

Fujitsu even went to the extremes of having a dungeon at their HQ to remotely access the Post Office Post Office Branch Horizon system's database to correct the issues they knew about and Gareth Jenkins as the System Architect was fully involved in setting this up - Shameful Gareth

[@cassandratq9301]

Where did his involvement in that come up?

[@Mike_5]

@@cassandratq9301 He was the the System Architect and had to come up with a rapid workaround to the inherent inbuilt problems with the Horizon system

[@wanderingyoutube]

Could the real reason for the discrepancies was caused by the way things were processed? And that there was reluctance to change the process to fix the issue because it would tantamount to admission of error in the process, therefore a shortcoming of the PO and it's reputation

[@redjacc7581]

if there are minutes of these meetings why does it NOT indicate who said what?

[@Orwic1]

It does in the minutes I get to read. And I keep my own contemporaneous notes!

[@TerribleFire]

Jail him and throw away the key

[@HarryB-cj6tg]

Apart from his lack of integrity and his BS, he would be the most incompetent engineer I have ever heard of. He calls himself a Distinguished Engineer! Distinguished in what? A disgrace to the profession: I was cringing for the profession listening to his pathetic responses.

[@MichaelEnright-gk6yc]

Quick to answer any question which proves his so called innocence but doesn't remember anything that would implicate himself.

[@redbeard3923]

Expert ok 😅

[@ncooper8438]

Jenkins says frequently that something is irrelevant, including references to legacy and online Horizon. However, given that HO was a better version of LH I'll bet a lot of the design and code of LH was carried over to HO and therefore they are not independent systems. That needs to be checked IMO.

[@stanmcintosh8037]

Unbelievable

[@roddersfiftynine]

3:29 and 4:38 Sir Jason Beer shows how it`s done !!

[@davidconnor8062]

Should also be stripped of any benefits he gained from this outfit

[@johnj4860]

I'm still not sure about him. I think he's probably a brilliant computer engineer with little grasp of the world outside his own bubble. As the military would describe as a boffin. He was pushed repeatedly by legal experts to word reports as they wanted and now he's thrown to the wolves. Maybe lawyers deserve their reputation?

[@johnreed8336]

He knew exactly what he was doing . At any point he could have said no . Then told the truth. Instead he continued to take the money and subsequently continued to commit perjury. A long prison sentence is needed to restore his memory if events are such that he can't recall or doesn't remember.

[@ogstopper]

Agreed. I think he's more of a naive geek than a villain. I think he revelled in the status of 'expert witness' and got in over his head, whilst being led to believe that he was doing the PO a huge service. I don't think he was malicious in what he did - he was stupid in the extreme, set up by PO lawyers and bone-idle Singh, but not malicious. He'll probably go down for perjury, but I hope the PO crowd go down for so much more. The core participants' lawyers are going to tear him apart today.

[@jamesduffy1544]

Real shame if GJ gets the blame. Tait and Bounds (they worked together at 2 other companies) and the leadership should have been aware of what was going on.

[@joe2mercs]

So the lack of system integrity was creating errors that needed correction but the communication about corrections to the those that had been affected by such errors needed to be handled in such a way that there would be no questions about system integrity because they did not want bad publicity!? There is a stark discontinuity between ‘I cannot remember, I’ve no idea, no recollection, cannot recall’ and the crystal clear memory about what they were specifically thinking when presented with written records they composed at the time.

[@johnmcdonnell81]

Jail. No ifs, buts or ands. Shocking stuff.

[@ianhill4585]

Picked apart --" robustly" ? 🙄

[@FrankNicholasDale]

We see all these examinations, is anyone going to held responsible with criminal charges, if so how do the public know?

[@MichaelgeorgeHolt]

Funny how he can’t remember or he wasn’t aware 😂

[@KarenaDashfield]

He's whinging about having his words picked apart....he needs to spare a thought for those who had their lives not just picked apart but totally torn to shreds because of him and the rest of the lying corrupt bar stewards at the PO.

[@stevebrain4393]

Can't remember, I don't understand. Needs to go to gaol.

[@davidconnor8062]

WHAT a WEASEL

[@Smokyjohnson1983]

“A very small isolated problem…“ Ok redressing the balance will only be for “a small isolated problem” then won’t it? The loss of reputation, the jail time, loss of earnings etc… “SMALL ISOLATED PROBLEM” 🤔 Also Jason Beer for a Knighthood. He is masterfully and eloquently picking apart so many of these forgetful, incompetent, arrogant and, first and foremost, GUILTY creatures that are soiling the seat before him.

[@debbieplanner8121]

Why can’t these people put their hands up and say ‘I made a massive blunder!’ I’d have some kind of sympathy that they can’t remember specifically because it was a long time ago but it’s there right in front of them! Fools! It’s so disrespectful that these sub postmasters have to relieve it all!!!!

[@Bobainthome]

"I am going to continue the picking apart, if I may?" Dude, great shade.

[@keithg1xfl]

Err isnt it the Job of the KC to pick apart Words

[@7th.trumpet]

To prevent things like this happening again, as part of the billions we give despot nations in aid, all those guilty should be sent to african, south asian prisons and left ! If they survive their sentence then they can make arrangements to travel back to the UK themselves.

[@AleaIactaEst2009]

To be fair the question "are there any known problems?" is not the same question as "were there any known problems?" "Are" does imply existing at the current time rather than resolved bugs. If you were asked "are there any health issues with you?" it would be unlikely to make you think listing breaking your arm when you were 7 which subsequently healed was relevant, "are" implies at the time of asking. Not defending him, but it did strike me it was unreasonable to insist "are" must be read as "were".

[@stephenhoneyman9743]

I’d have thought that I order to have a full u understanding of the extent of the problem, the first thing POL should have done is ask all Post Offices to report any issues.

[@mariawelsh9485]

Jenkins is a psychopath

[@bend3rbot]

I get the impression he is dangerously confident in everything being within his ability to address, not realising how hopeless he actually is.

[@rosssimpson6268]

On the contrary, Jenkins is simply an honest technician! It's the Lawyers and Directors, particularly Paula Vennels nd Alice Perkins, who were/are psycopaths!

[@hotpotato4027]

@@rosssimpson6268 honest technician 😂 You’re having a larff 😂

[@Eleventhearlofmars]

@@rosssimpson6268😂😂😂😂 you’ve given me a good laugh fella.

[@michaelmcginley7930]

Absolutely

[@edwardgubbins6342]

He claims to be a Fujitsu expert? Put him in the UFC and let's see what happens!

[@Bristolcentaurus]

is this not legal UFC?

[@clivekenna3595]

He's in a tight spot, with very little wriggle room. He therefore has to stick to his story, thereby coming across as genuine but ultimately misguided by others who took advantage of his naivety. He's like an older Sheldon ie big bang etc, who said in a slip that he's good at focusing on technical matters but not good at inter personal relations. Has a borderline personality disorder