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Post Office Scandal: Gasps at Paula Vennell answer over historic subpostmaster convictions

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The Scottish Sun

The Scottish Sun

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Gasps from the gallery as Paula Vennells says she didn't recall taking the advice of a PR Guide over whether the Post Office should look into historic subpostmasters cases.
Chairman Sir Wyn Williams had to intervene.
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@theworkshed1253
@theworkshed1253 2 ай бұрын
She is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this country
@mirjamwillemsen900
@mirjamwillemsen900 2 ай бұрын
Not only in your country, I think. It seems to be very common everywhere, nowadays. 😐
@nicholashindle2084
@nicholashindle2084 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, this incompetence is mirrored in every layer of British society and the western world
@iaingardner6897
@iaingardner6897 2 ай бұрын
@@nicholashindle2084why specify the west? this kind of corruption is a lot worse in authoritarian countries, this kind of accountability is exactly why democracy is important
@garywright8846
@garywright8846 2 ай бұрын
Yeh same here in Australia, these people need prison time.
@GeoffreyMH
@GeoffreyMH 2 ай бұрын
A shining example of Hannah Arendt's notion: "the banality of evil"
@rossi6113
@rossi6113 2 ай бұрын
This is not incompetence... IT IS CORRUPTION.
@vcnz
@vcnz 2 ай бұрын
Until today I was prepared to leave my opinion open to incompetence. Not now, she's a bare face liar!
@markrichards636
@markrichards636 2 ай бұрын
Governments complicit also, vile.
@HandleorHandle
@HandleorHandle 2 ай бұрын
Corruption steams at this level and they try and convict the innocent so easily !! Evil breeds in her !
@nigelb5341
@nigelb5341 2 ай бұрын
Damn right!!!
@adriandcruz188
@adriandcruz188 2 ай бұрын
It's worse than that criminal lying cheating, framing poor subpostmasters and benefiting with bonuses
@crappedmypants
@crappedmypants 2 ай бұрын
She needs to be in prison
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 2 ай бұрын
But will she or any of her acolytes.
@paulcastle1718
@paulcastle1718 2 ай бұрын
And I would imagine that the vast majority of the people would say just that after watching events .
@TabsT-vy5jy
@TabsT-vy5jy 2 ай бұрын
We're still waiting for the grenfell bosses to be in jail for manslaughter. And after this there's gonna be the NHS scandal of contaminated blood.
@gordonwilson6553
@gordonwilson6553 2 ай бұрын
she still does not accept that everything she done was wrong jail time is needed to bring these people into line
@alfieakaronaldog
@alfieakaronaldog 2 ай бұрын
She needs to be on the stage! Gasps, laughs, titters. Just needs boo’s now and she could easily do a Christmas panto 😂
@dinaworkman306
@dinaworkman306 2 ай бұрын
She is sorry because she has been found out
@jstoner9029
@jstoner9029 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@gordonwilson6553
@gordonwilson6553 2 ай бұрын
the only way they will ĺearn is by making an example of them
@Somewheredeepinwales
@Somewheredeepinwales 2 ай бұрын
Course she is & that is the only reason!
@paulcastle1718
@paulcastle1718 2 ай бұрын
She realises by now how many deaths she was directly responsible for and she is desperate to wriggle free . Most people say she belongs in prison and I agree entirely and of course she is not the only one !
@harryhalloumi295
@harryhalloumi295 2 ай бұрын
Isn't that always the case? Oh, except for JS & HRH PA.
@columbmurray
@columbmurray 2 ай бұрын
Please remember she was highly qualified for her position . A complete and consummate lier.
@Rob-no5dy
@Rob-no5dy 2 ай бұрын
CEO level Salary should = CEO level punishment as well.. Jail her for the damage done to innoncent people.
@laurieharper1526
@laurieharper1526 2 ай бұрын
@@Rob-no5dy Sadly, CEO level punishment usually means a slap on the wrist and a comfortable retirement with a juicy pension...
@pootpoot13
@pootpoot13 2 ай бұрын
Liar
@jimbrown2688
@jimbrown2688 2 ай бұрын
She is also supposed to be an ordained woman of God. She is disgusting and a disgrace to humanity. She and others must go to prison. She has committed perjury by lying under oath
@littlejohn2708
@littlejohn2708 2 ай бұрын
She has been highly trained by the church in the standard strategy of dealing with objection i.e. the 3-Ds, D - Deny, D - Divert, D - Delay. A dishonest and appalling human being who show no traces of morals or ethics.
@coalville1234
@coalville1234 2 ай бұрын
The only bit she can remember is that it wasn't her fault
@pokerrich9
@pokerrich9 2 ай бұрын
It’s always the case when you have no defence
@ianlloyd100
@ianlloyd100 2 ай бұрын
This liar needs to be in jail.........
@Steve-uf8pk
@Steve-uf8pk 2 ай бұрын
No one in either the Blood or Post Office scandals will ever face prosecution……the British establishment will make sure of that!
@janetsymons
@janetsymons 2 ай бұрын
Pensions taken away
@personalcheeses8073
@personalcheeses8073 2 ай бұрын
@@janetsymonsNever happens
@anythingbootneck
@anythingbootneck 2 ай бұрын
@@janetsymonsGood point!👍🏻
@bwghall1
@bwghall1 2 ай бұрын
15 years minimum.. For crying out loud People have committed suicide . and you a priest! have you no sense of shame woman.
@sassijay
@sassijay 2 ай бұрын
When’s she off to prison? Why does she even have a chance to defend herself. She’s a cold blooded killer
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 2 ай бұрын
There has to be due process of law and justice for everyone. Even though those wrongly convicted were not offered that same right.
@TabsT-vy5jy
@TabsT-vy5jy 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. The postmasters had no chance before they were jailed.
@andyisabeast7782
@andyisabeast7782 2 ай бұрын
​@@chrisholland7367this isn't a due process of the law tho. If there was any equality this would be a police investigation followed by a criminal trail and jail time, but there is no equality under law in this country
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 2 ай бұрын
@@andyisabeast7782 I did say that .There was no due process of law for the wrongly convicted.
@Pete-go9wl
@Pete-go9wl 2 ай бұрын
When you have as many millions as her and her husband have you never get punishment any more than saying SORRY..the elite make the rules NOT live by them
@Asoundviewpoint
@Asoundviewpoint 2 ай бұрын
Vennell talks and adopts the impression she is a separated influence and not the instigator of this cover up .
@Anditover
@Anditover 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, the cover up was instigated before she took over. However, instead of engaging with the investigation team, and talking to victims to ascertain if there was any truth to the claims that Horizon and Fujitsu had not only botched the software, but were continually interfering with the audits from branches, she decided to continue the policy of burying truth, discrediting witnesses, discrediting their own audit team, and lying to Ministers. She was consistent, I'll give her credit for that. Not ONCE throughout this hearing has she said that she considered what the effect that, even hypothetically, a dishonest denial of culpability would have on the lives of victims. When you're a CEO, you're paid to take decisions and responsibility. She made a conscious decision to blame innocent people, but refuses to this day to admit any responsibility.
@brigidsingleton1596
@brigidsingleton1596 2 ай бұрын
She "wasn't qualified or competent to..." Exactly.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 ай бұрын
She does so. Correct. And terribly so. And yet she’s protected from incarceration. I hate this story. Us plebs. The other 99.1% society. We wrong once this level off to jail 10 years min.
@mslcreative
@mslcreative 2 ай бұрын
Her assets should be seized and used towards the compensation scheme as the reverse was done to the sub postmasters. I hope justice will be done correctly
@philb4462
@philb4462 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. That mansion of hers should be sold and the proceeds given to her victims.
@lindsaywalton3254
@lindsaywalton3254 2 ай бұрын
That would be excellent justice
@metalmover7546
@metalmover7546 Ай бұрын
100%
@telmas7183
@telmas7183 16 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with you but fear the outcome will be quite different!
@pcat1378
@pcat1378 2 ай бұрын
Just remember this person is very religious. She clearly has absolutely no issues with lying despite being very religious.
@dorothyblair6741
@dorothyblair6741 2 ай бұрын
She's NOT religious then. Personality disordered people gravitate to the church because of the status and power it gives, same thing with being high up on the corporate ladder, not because they are serious about the inherent beliefs that they should live by in the church.
@theworkshed1253
@theworkshed1253 2 ай бұрын
She hides behind religion she is far from being religious
@MagereHein
@MagereHein 2 ай бұрын
I've been told Jesus forgives lying at a discount.
@TR4zest
@TR4zest 2 ай бұрын
Being religious and being a liar are not mutually exclusive.
@pcat1378
@pcat1378 2 ай бұрын
@@TR4zest You completely missed the point ffs
@tesssouter4521
@tesssouter4521 2 ай бұрын
The pauses and stuttering tells the story of lies and guilt
@monteceitomoocher
@monteceitomoocher 2 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have to think to answer, the pauses are lying on the hoof.
@janeconnors1807
@janeconnors1807 2 ай бұрын
Oh I don't think she feels guilty. In her mind she's done no wrong
@TheSpuggy1965
@TheSpuggy1965 2 ай бұрын
@@janeconnors1807That means she is a psychopath. Yes she is
@fredsmith1970
@fredsmith1970 2 ай бұрын
She waffles her answers, but tries really hard to not actually answer the question being asked
@HelenBlack-sn7ke
@HelenBlack-sn7ke 2 ай бұрын
@@janeconnors1807 You are possibly correct, no empathy, total indifference.
@onesilike9838
@onesilike9838 2 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells had neither the skill set nor the courage to lead the post office, particularly during times of trouble. She threw those postmasters under the bus for expediency and to save face. Really disgusting, but not unusual in corporate leadership these days. They don’t seem to value integrity and honesty in corporate settings these days.
@mark.lawrence
@mark.lawrence 2 ай бұрын
callous evil monster
@JohnDavis-gu9jx
@JohnDavis-gu9jx 2 ай бұрын
Integrity and honesty would exclude anyone from rising in big business or politics today.
@jameshblack
@jameshblack 2 ай бұрын
This person should be in front of a judge and jury
@DebraStacey-zi1gn
@DebraStacey-zi1gn 2 ай бұрын
Hear hear!
@lindaharrison1757
@lindaharrison1757 2 ай бұрын
After this enquiry, they'd say she wouldn't get a fair trial, òops, just like the subpostmasters
@alanlittle3941
@alanlittle3941 2 ай бұрын
Prosecute in a court of law like us little people would get
@Steve-uf8pk
@Steve-uf8pk 2 ай бұрын
No one in either the Blood or Post Office scandals will ever face prosecution……the British establishment will make sure of that!
@tonywoodford9164
@tonywoodford9164 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree bosses get the big money paid bonuses for sometimes failing and when they really get this wrong they take the money and say I don't remember
@JonathonBastow
@JonathonBastow 2 ай бұрын
Why is she not in handcuffs... amazing what having friends at the top will do for you. This is how every politician is like in the UK.
@DebraStacey-zi1gn
@DebraStacey-zi1gn 2 ай бұрын
You’re so right!
@E4RLIES
@E4RLIES 2 ай бұрын
The UK has class problems, always will unless she and her ilk start being treated accordingly, ie prison time
@JonathonBastow
@JonathonBastow 2 ай бұрын
@E4RLIES exactly... if you did this as a director of a small or medium business you would be in prison. Somebody has taken their life over what they did, a man lost his freedom amongst many other things and they sit there not rememberimg a thing. Vennells has had a top job in the NHS since leaving the post office how corrupt is that place if this is just the post office
@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67
@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67 2 ай бұрын
When someone says,”I believe “ so many times they actually mean,”I want all you thicko’s to believe “. Long jail time and removal of all assets !
@MayorofDipshittery-lq7if
@MayorofDipshittery-lq7if 2 ай бұрын
What a particularly horrible person she is/was 🤬
@Ps119
@Ps119 2 ай бұрын
is
@neilhansen3365
@neilhansen3365 2 ай бұрын
Is.
@mungomuff9716
@mungomuff9716 2 ай бұрын
And supposedly very religious..
@neilhansen3365
@neilhansen3365 2 ай бұрын
@@mungomuff9716 she’ll have to find forgiveness from somewhere. She enjoyed the power and used it to cause as much pain and upset as she could.
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 Ай бұрын
@@mungomuff9716 Worst types
@nickoforesta5788
@nickoforesta5788 2 ай бұрын
Incredible not one of these monsters has paid back of penny or been charged with a single thing
@johnmcintyre800
@johnmcintyre800 2 ай бұрын
Bet you they are getting paid to show up and when's its all done and dusted they will string out the compensation process to let as many victims to die off as they can
@lindsaywalton3254
@lindsaywalton3254 2 ай бұрын
I don't get this either. It is obvious to everyone something criminal has occurred.
@caroleknight4686
@caroleknight4686 2 ай бұрын
She should go to jail. Disgusting and unacceptable. She should also be sued in civil cases for her clear neglect and ignorance of warnings when in a highly paid job paid for by British taxpayers. And now ordained? Shame on you
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 2 ай бұрын
From what i can gather they conspired to keep the convicted postmasters convicted, and purely because they didn't want the press to get a hold of all of the facts
@kathykay9920
@kathykay9920 2 ай бұрын
Prison Prison Prison Prison
@Steve-uf8pk
@Steve-uf8pk 2 ай бұрын
No one in either the Blood or Post Office scandals will ever face prosecution……the British establishment will make sure of that!
@paulrossbotham4359
@paulrossbotham4359 2 ай бұрын
you left out ,,,P R I S O N X 10
@lindsaywalton3254
@lindsaywalton3254 2 ай бұрын
And once again PRISON!!!!!!
@assafnaor5752
@assafnaor5752 2 ай бұрын
If she didn't know what was going on why was she paid 700 thousand a year and if she did know was 700 thousand to keep her mouth shut?
@JonathonBastow
@JonathonBastow 2 ай бұрын
She still hasn't handed her bonuses back either I don't think
@anthonyanderson2622
@anthonyanderson2622 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the bonuses as well.
@JamieMarshallMusician
@JamieMarshallMusician 2 ай бұрын
"I understand how this reads" is something she says quite a lot
@nolickspittle4753
@nolickspittle4753 2 ай бұрын
Mmm...she should circle back...
@coppershark1973
@coppershark1973 2 ай бұрын
She implies there are multiple ways of ‘reading’ something that proves her GUILT. How convenient…
@denise4487
@denise4487 2 ай бұрын
it reads how its meant to be read and thats exactly what she meant 😅 she doesnt get it does she , she stole their money and took part of it as a bonus like the rest of them. They didnt owe any money
@fgrsimon
@fgrsimon 2 ай бұрын
Not as often as she says 'I don't recall'.
@jimmyfaulkner5746
@jimmyfaulkner5746 2 ай бұрын
​@denise4487 she gets it
@marshgatelaneposse
@marshgatelaneposse 2 ай бұрын
What a utter disgrace
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 2 ай бұрын
What An utter disgrace 😊
@MR-gl9xu
@MR-gl9xu 2 ай бұрын
I love the spontaneous gasp from those present… it so totally meant “oh bloody hell come on now!!!” Liar liar!
@hughwilson4911
@hughwilson4911 2 ай бұрын
More annoying was her eye roll at the response, that's the real person coming through there.
@franc9111
@franc9111 2 ай бұрын
And of course they were immediately brought to order - so British.
@sylviaparker9010
@sylviaparker9010 2 ай бұрын
What i find unsettling is the fact the there was more than one person supposedly frauding the post office, more than 100 surely that would have been a red flag for the post office to make sense and say, "come on all these people can't be wrong " 1 2 or 3 yes, maybe. And that poor guy who committed suicide i find it deplorable that she's not even sorry for that, or she maybe now, but thats too late..
@bulletdozerx9954
@bulletdozerx9954 2 ай бұрын
Sending her to prison is the only way to restore my faith in the British judicial system.
@Alicelorraine
@Alicelorraine 2 ай бұрын
What judicial system it's all sham
@mickreaddin4979
@mickreaddin4979 2 ай бұрын
It's very, VERY clear what he was saying: minimise the investigations so as to avoid media coverage and more scrutiny. Even now she's trying to evade!?
@Pinkyandthebrain290
@Pinkyandthebrain290 2 ай бұрын
To minimise her outcome.
@ProffAndy
@ProffAndy 2 ай бұрын
"I really don't remember anything that would incriminate myself. I'd also like to change the interpretation of any emails that clearly show I was up to no good".
@stephenbland7461
@stephenbland7461 2 ай бұрын
Spot on…..
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 2 ай бұрын
As instructed by my highly paid legal advisors.
@alberttickle1106
@alberttickle1106 2 ай бұрын
It's clear in her delay in answering that she really has to check in her mind before speaking....rather than just answering immediately.
@mark.lawrence
@mark.lawrence 2 ай бұрын
BOOM! callous evil monster.
@ianwarnes6197
@ianwarnes6197 2 ай бұрын
She should accept the job in the Church ..she'll feel comfortable there along with the other "wrong uns" that go there to hide..
@Summitic
@Summitic 2 ай бұрын
Wow, That's very deep !
@michaeld5888
@michaeld5888 2 ай бұрын
Dance with the Devil as long as you can get away with it and then find the Lord.
@woodenseagull1899
@woodenseagull1899 2 ай бұрын
​@@michaeld5888The Arch Bishop of Canterbury doesn't fill one with confidence.....! The Church is dead!
@slottyken
@slottyken 2 ай бұрын
You do understand the difference between the Catholic Church and the Anglican Church right?
@laurieharper1526
@laurieharper1526 2 ай бұрын
@@slottyken Little difference these days. The current head of the Anglican church is a corporate shill, just like Venal, sorry, Vennells.
@anthonyanderson2622
@anthonyanderson2622 2 ай бұрын
How can this women be considered for the position of Bishop of London by Justin Welby. I wouldn't trust this women to do anything honestly.
@johnjc4645
@johnjc4645 2 ай бұрын
The name Justin Welby must show you he is incompetent as well
@stitchlover633
@stitchlover633 2 ай бұрын
or him
@anthonyanderson2622
@anthonyanderson2622 2 ай бұрын
@@johnjc4645 More like a bad judge of character.
@WalterGarvin
@WalterGarvin 2 ай бұрын
He must be a devil enabler.
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 2 ай бұрын
A special club
@Nick-xf5hr
@Nick-xf5hr 2 ай бұрын
It’s a cover up. Prosecute all post office directors to prison now.
@mickb2009
@mickb2009 2 ай бұрын
That right there is an Ordained Minister lying through her teeth
@jesmarina
@jesmarina 2 ай бұрын
Par for the course for the religious: They lie to their kids about there being a "god" every day!
@deirdreloughran8258
@deirdreloughran8258 2 ай бұрын
Disgusting
@bollockchop501
@bollockchop501 2 ай бұрын
Ordained tounge and groove club more like
@vagabondslot-machine8832
@vagabondslot-machine8832 2 ай бұрын
You fool no one, Vennels. Less so a judge and jury when your time comes
@narcher91
@narcher91 2 ай бұрын
She really believes she can fool us all, the arrogance is astounding. On the scale of kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse and pretending you didn’t.
@JulieMalone-oy1ll
@JulieMalone-oy1ll 2 ай бұрын
How selective their minds are when it comes to a cruch question
@pjd1957
@pjd1957 2 ай бұрын
She's trying to break Nicola Sturgeon record of "I can't recall or I was not aware" record when she spoke at her inquiry
@Awakenotwoke-lf3ej
@Awakenotwoke-lf3ej 2 ай бұрын
And they look like sisters 😄 go figure
@chungasrevenge4306
@chungasrevenge4306 2 ай бұрын
Yep, ....birds of a feather. Imo.
@richardwinn8941
@richardwinn8941 2 ай бұрын
She is talking gobbledegoop absolute rubbish!
@williamoates1754
@williamoates1754 2 ай бұрын
This woman belongs behind bars. I do not know how she can sleep at night (thankfully)
@orangeadventures
@orangeadventures 2 ай бұрын
She has a mattress stuffed full of money that's how she sleeps well. Horrible individual.
@geraldinebricis2129
@geraldinebricis2129 2 ай бұрын
Shameless and no remorse
@kennethscott4190
@kennethscott4190 2 ай бұрын
It seems the qualifications for being a senior manager in the Post Office are. Have no memory, no qualifications for the job, no experience of similar work, no common sense, no morals.
@AL-YT-comment
@AL-YT-comment 2 ай бұрын
See also a member of a Tory cabinet
@geraldinebricis2129
@geraldinebricis2129 2 ай бұрын
Spot on
@janetlowe6448
@janetlowe6448 2 ай бұрын
Did she not realize she was talking about people’s lives that they had ruined?
@garyknight2084
@garyknight2084 2 ай бұрын
And she was given an honour? Says it all!
@russellbertrand3242
@russellbertrand3242 2 ай бұрын
The affronted look when the gallery gasps at her effrontery. "how dare you little people gasp at me!" Priceless.
@user-lu8hl3bg4x
@user-lu8hl3bg4x 2 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!
@washburn8049
@washburn8049 2 ай бұрын
My understanding is she is a liar. It amazes me that these so-called educated people, seem to have difficulty in using clear and concise language. Every one of them has lied under oath.
@MarkBishop-rt3zl
@MarkBishop-rt3zl 2 ай бұрын
I'm amazed that her nose never got longer or her pants didn't burst into flames.
@ab7047
@ab7047 2 ай бұрын
Absolute liar. She's getting angry when questioned because she knows we all know she's lying
@comedy-hypnotist
@comedy-hypnotist 2 ай бұрын
Jail, return bonuses and cancellation of pension and all other perks. This woman is a disgrace. Paula - you were either incompetent and utterly out of your depth or a truly dreadful person. This is not leadership, rather cringeworthy arrogance. Beware other monopoly / state institution bosses - with great pay now comes great personal accountability. In companies/institutions up & down the land there are whole swathes of senior people spending more time covering their backsides that doing the job properly. Yes, people make mistakes - be brave and own up, just like we do in the private sector. "Correct" notes and paperwork are NOT more important that clinical outcomes...
@chrislambert9435
@chrislambert9435 2 ай бұрын
"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn
@asilver2889
@asilver2889 2 ай бұрын
The private sector own up? Grenfell?
@James-bc1jk
@James-bc1jk 2 ай бұрын
unfortunately it's only a crime in the working class people do things like this but if you are rich and have friends in government then you work away free
@sylviaparker9010
@sylviaparker9010 2 ай бұрын
It will hurt her more if you take monetary repatriation than going to jail. Stop her pension and make her pay,money wise, so she's left with nothing, like all those post masters/,mistresses that have been through hell, having to take out loans etc ;
@matte2413
@matte2413 2 ай бұрын
Bent as a nine Bob note 😂
@_Ben4810
@_Ben4810 2 ай бұрын
...or a bottle of crisps...
@rogernevin7461
@rogernevin7461 2 ай бұрын
@@_Ben4810 or a boomarang.
@bollockchop501
@bollockchop501 2 ай бұрын
I more ways bent
@paulbason2318
@paulbason2318 2 ай бұрын
Your giving her too much credit I'd say a 2 Bob note 😂
@bollockchop501
@bollockchop501 Ай бұрын
In more ways than one,deffo tounge and groove club,definite Masonic,people don’t get these ceo jobs unless they are members
@minno234
@minno234 2 ай бұрын
How can the victims sitting in the enquiry keep their cool? I would completely lose it with her
@geraldinebricis2129
@geraldinebricis2129 2 ай бұрын
It is further abusing those who have already suffered in my view
@minno234
@minno234 2 ай бұрын
@@geraldinebricis2129 agreed. She was massively let off the hook.
@franc9111
@franc9111 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that this is an inquiry hearing and not a trial. The barrister has already said that there matters he can't question her or the others on because of parliamentary privilege, in other words he's got a hand tied behind his back. He's being extremely cautious and polite, because he has no other option. What is absolutely clear is the disdain that these individuals have for the postmasters. They deliberately brushed under the carpet the obvious operating problems with Horizon, they did everything they could to stifle any possible adverse legal procedures and were perfectly willing to incriminate the innocent. The 'controllers' they sent out to threaten the postmasters were totally incompetent, but that was part of the plan. Some of these 'executives' have even tried brazenly posturing before this KC, which gives some idea of how disgusting they are. Meanwhile Vennels still has a top job, but she belongs to the management class who think they're untouchable. Their 'legal PR team' must be doing overtime and getting handsomely paid for it. Ordinary people's lives and those of their families were ruined, some were driven to suicide, some were wrongfully imprisoned, but after all they were only ordinary people, weren't they ?
@Pinkyandthebrain290
@Pinkyandthebrain290 2 ай бұрын
That was wrong really. It should be a trial. Incompetency on the police and justice systems part. All part of the cover up. And the government. None of which we the British public can trust.
@chrislambert9435
@chrislambert9435 2 ай бұрын
"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 2 ай бұрын
I think there is enough written evidence to bring a conspiracy charge against them, they knew full well those postmasters were innocent but instead of doing the right thing and helping them get those convictions quashed they covered everything up because to get them prosecuted in the first place they withheld evidence and charged and prosecuted innocent people on their lies, and that is what they were trying to mask from the media.
@joycebrowne750
@joycebrowne750 2 ай бұрын
Is a liar who abused her position. And Post Office backed her.😱
@personalcheeses8073
@personalcheeses8073 2 ай бұрын
The Post Office is a statutory corporation that cannot back anybody. Only the individuals within it could back her.
@AmphibianFilms
@AmphibianFilms 2 ай бұрын
Why does the system allow these people to lie?
@lifeevent88
@lifeevent88 2 ай бұрын
Rich people go before a committee, me and u go before a judge
@peterney2402
@peterney2402 2 ай бұрын
Because the whole system is a lie, government church and all authorities. You and I are not in the club and we shall obey orders.
@TabsT-vy5jy
@TabsT-vy5jy 2 ай бұрын
Because the very system is a lie
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 2 ай бұрын
Money talks
@markmorrid8144
@markmorrid8144 2 ай бұрын
Because we don't live in a democracy we live in a plutocracy.
@jeanrees1502
@jeanrees1502 2 ай бұрын
Just more lies
@bhangmaster
@bhangmaster 2 ай бұрын
You can tell she is lying, her mouth is moving.
@joedewar7253
@joedewar7253 2 ай бұрын
A tired comment repeated so many times!
@bhangmaster
@bhangmaster 2 ай бұрын
But true nonetheless!
@Englishman-nz3jm
@Englishman-nz3jm 2 ай бұрын
She just didnt give a toss for these people. Its quite clear. The evidence is blatant. The lies obvious. The tears crocodile. All the leaders over the time should be held accountable.
@nicholashindle2084
@nicholashindle2084 2 ай бұрын
Does the system have the courage to bring criminal charges,,,,,probably not !
@Englishman-nz3jm
@Englishman-nz3jm 2 ай бұрын
Of course it won’t.
@James-bc1jk
@James-bc1jk 2 ай бұрын
Nope this will just cost the tax payers more money in court and the rich people will just walk away free welcome to justice in the uk
@sugarfree1894
@sugarfree1894 2 ай бұрын
"It's not how it looks!" Such a well-worn line.
@Rover2430
@Rover2430 2 ай бұрын
If I did anything wrong, I wouldn't like to be questioned by Mr Beer KC. He's superb.
@johnenglish929
@johnenglish929 2 ай бұрын
Sir Wyn is no fool either !
@Nightstalker321
@Nightstalker321 2 ай бұрын
A classic example of the type of garbage that exists at the top of public organisations.
@denismullane1300
@denismullane1300 2 ай бұрын
And private ones....☝️
@richardbetts816
@richardbetts816 2 ай бұрын
Where do they find these idiots?
@markgrunzweig6377
@markgrunzweig6377 2 ай бұрын
She is sitting on a seat of burning charcoal.
@mirjamwillemsen900
@mirjamwillemsen900 2 ай бұрын
I really hope that Justin Beer will keep the charcoal burning. ☺
@hugolindum7728
@hugolindum7728 2 ай бұрын
Should be, but it’s comfortable leather.
@jesmarina
@jesmarina 2 ай бұрын
So basically, she was repsonsible for the entire thing, but NEVER EVER made any wrong decissions during the entire process. That's impressive... It's very obvious that she completely ignored the people wrongly convicted. She doesn't mention them at all - they were clearly not a subject to her.
@garyknight2084
@garyknight2084 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely outrageous! This woman is very clever & knows how to dodge answers, except where she clearly recalls something that was her understanding @the time! This ability to twist & re-frame the facts, was her only qualification to her position. Evil is the only fitting description for her!
@geraldinebricis2129
@geraldinebricis2129 2 ай бұрын
Not clever, cunning and sly. There is a difference. Not so smart now!
@gherkamum
@gherkamum 2 ай бұрын
One massive cover up......Prison.
@Steve-uf8pk
@Steve-uf8pk 2 ай бұрын
No one in either the Blood or Post Office scandals will ever face prosecution……the British establishment will make sure of that!
@ronhudson3334
@ronhudson3334 2 ай бұрын
Paula " l don't recall " Vennells. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't remember. I don't remember. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@A2Z1Two3
@A2Z1Two3 2 ай бұрын
They had to PROVE their case to the Post office who would again be JUDGE AND JURY !😮
@PG-ts9xz
@PG-ts9xz 2 ай бұрын
But she avoids answering that one
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 2 ай бұрын
The Archbishop of Canterbury will offer reflection and forgiveness.
@nolickspittle4753
@nolickspittle4753 2 ай бұрын
He'll tell the nation she's LGBTQ+ or some other BS!
@rogernevin7461
@rogernevin7461 2 ай бұрын
In lieu of compensation ! It would be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than a rich man/woman to enter the Kingdom of God ! So that scrubs him out.
@Twittler1
@Twittler1 2 ай бұрын
She is floundering badly. She’s not equipped mentally to do what she’s trying to do - i.e: Prevaricate, dissemble, backtrack, outright lie! Saying things like ‘I wouldn’t have done/said ‘that’’ is a dead giveaway to ‘I know I did, but I can’t admit it, or I’m dead’. “I don’t recall” is just a desperate attempt at self-exoneration. She and the whole board and SM team need to be subjected to a high level criminal investigation, co-ordinated by a senior judge, in the absence of a national police force.
@chrislambert9435
@chrislambert9435 2 ай бұрын
"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn
@GeoffreyMH
@GeoffreyMH 2 ай бұрын
PV: "Don't blame me - I was asleep at the wheel"
@stirlingmoss4621
@stirlingmoss4621 2 ай бұрын
a career criminal with no compassion for those falsely smeared and imprisoned and killed due to her deliberate ignoring of the axiomatic just as long as her good standing was unsullied.
@renszatrapp9639
@renszatrapp9639 2 ай бұрын
If I knew about the scandal of the miscarriage of justice15 years ago, and I have NOTHING to do with the P.O. it is inconceivable that she didnt.She was the ONE person who could have put a stop to it way back then .Wilful ignorance.People didn't matter to her .
@kevinmcguire1049
@kevinmcguire1049 2 ай бұрын
She says this is not how I read it at the time…… (this has occurred multiple times) When asked to explain how else it could interpreted, she cannot provide a coherent explanation.
@andrewstevens7453
@andrewstevens7453 2 ай бұрын
Listen to her squirm and deny, definitely has been taking lessons on how to deflect and use all the plausible deniability tactics. Would be interesting to see if she could do that against a prosecution barrister 😮😮
@tonyarmitage7435
@tonyarmitage7435 2 ай бұрын
It is difficult to find any truth in her evidence.
@db7314
@db7314 2 ай бұрын
The peter principle, which states that people are promoted to their level of incompetence. This is crazy considering how much money she was paid. A nodding duck would have been better.
@MS-Patriot2
@MS-Patriot2 2 ай бұрын
No, she’s far from incompetent. When you’re found out like this, you pretend you didn’t know for as long as possible until Mr Beer finds the chink in the armour- and he will.
@donnyrover1
@donnyrover1 2 ай бұрын
Wriggling like a horrible slippery er slippery thing , all lies
@errlin1
@errlin1 2 ай бұрын
No one forgets the truth .. Everyone struggles to remember a Lie !!!
@fc4660
@fc4660 2 ай бұрын
When she says “The Post Office thinks” who on earth is she referring to? The CEO takes responsibility and makes the call, but her sole objective in this Hearing is to deflect all blame and imply others have given her incomplete or the wrong advice.
@matthewhackett1710
@matthewhackett1710 2 ай бұрын
She is fully aware that nowadays, "Normal Legal Routes" mean that they (POL) would never be held to account for their actions. Never ever. No Sub-Postmasters would ever manage to get the disclosures necessary to overturn malicious prosecutions and get their wrongful prosecutions addressed. That is the whole point of the protections of "Legal Privilege" afforded to POL. Look how long, and how difficult it has been to get this matter this far, with thousands of wrongful prosecutions and (criminal) extortions of monies from the Sub-Postmasters.
@user-yo1dg5zc3w
@user-yo1dg5zc3w 2 ай бұрын
Incredibly sad, all those people who suffered at the hands or her and her colleagues but yet she has the audacity to lie. Not a good advert for her faith and the church at all.
@andykenny5674
@andykenny5674 2 ай бұрын
“I understand how this reads, however I don’t think he was saying that…” My God, that’s like saying that it wasn’t a wall that Humpty Dumpty sat on. It’s all far too “complex” for the great unwashed to comprehend of course. There were a lot of conversations taking place at the time, so this email exchange isn’t relevant. Cracking defence Paula.
@mell3109
@mell3109 2 ай бұрын
Her deliberate actions put people in prison and robbed them of their money and their lives. And did so after she knew, deliberately took action, she should face criminal charges
@seancassidy8092
@seancassidy8092 2 ай бұрын
More word soup Mr Beer???.... Jail time should be coming...
@125ZJK
@125ZJK 2 ай бұрын
How is it so many nefarious people are "gonged" by the Crown. smh !
@Asoundviewpoint
@Asoundviewpoint 2 ай бұрын
it is time to reveal the government ministers promoting and advising Vennell over this privatization nonsense of cover up and also the Waterboard still to be revealed.
@TabsT-vy5jy
@TabsT-vy5jy 2 ай бұрын
They won't. I can't remember the last time these enquiries jailed anyone. It's just to appease the public and a waste of time.
@LordWalsallian
@LordWalsallian 2 ай бұрын
Ed Davey the Leader of the Liberal Democrats was Post Office Minister when this all started coming out during the Coalition Government under Cameron and Clegg. He’s still got a job, leads a party when in reality he should be in court with Vennell.
@steve10
@steve10 2 ай бұрын
How this isnt a trial for prison i dont know, she received all those bonuses , that title that was given to her should all be taken back and her imprisoned for the amount of time she lied , and an extra 10 years for the death of the poor guy who couldnt take anymore.
@barriegreen9812
@barriegreen9812 2 ай бұрын
That woman NEEDS to go to prison for a very long time. The Post office NEEDS to close down completely. It is a dangerous company, with lying managers and CEOs.
@keithg1xfl
@keithg1xfl 2 ай бұрын
She will soon get used to prison Food, She Should get at a Life Sentance
@Steve-uf8pk
@Steve-uf8pk 2 ай бұрын
No one in either the Blood or Post Office scandals will ever face prosecution……the British establishment will make sure of that!
@delboyoelmundo4718
@delboyoelmundo4718 2 ай бұрын
She is supposed to be religious, she will certainly be on front page for a bit and possibly inside on P4
@graemeknapp2643
@graemeknapp2643 2 ай бұрын
but definately not page 3 lol
@nightowl7459
@nightowl7459 2 ай бұрын
No difference to the many religious hypocrites, just look at the Archbishop and the many maggots masquerading as politicians sitting in Parliament.
@ukdave57
@ukdave57 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Sunak cutting and running will lilkey knock her off the front pages.
@user-ol3xe5fz4u
@user-ol3xe5fz4u 2 ай бұрын
govt/civil servants have been like this for 25 yrs now....
@harrydebastardeharris987
@harrydebastardeharris987 2 ай бұрын
This level of dishonesty from a CoE Priest and a CoE Ethics Advisor is disgusting and deserves a 10yr sentence at the very least.
@randydawson5403
@randydawson5403 2 ай бұрын
It's disgraceful, before each post office representative answers the questions they look at the laptop screen in front of them and the Post Office Barrister who is listening in provides them with the answer they should give. It's like going into an exam at School with all the answers on a notepad. How on earth is this legal, it's to make sure the Post Office doesn't get sued.
@smunro1983
@smunro1983 2 ай бұрын
Been sneezing a lot while watching this. I think I’m allergic to bull****
@MunsterIrons
@MunsterIrons 2 ай бұрын
She knows that even though completely uncovered and discredited that there will be no punishment effected on her
@gotany1
@gotany1 2 ай бұрын
I wonder what Alan Bates's response would be to the meeting, and not allowing past cases.
@coalville1234
@coalville1234 2 ай бұрын
I want to know who gave her the job...
@Masud_S_Hoghughi
@Masud_S_Hoghughi 2 ай бұрын
Too much elitism goin on in the UK..
@hannchris2762
@hannchris2762 2 ай бұрын
I was watching her live yesterday and I couldn't believe it when she said she was in her job for five years and didn't know the post office has its own investigation team of a hundred staff and was doing there own prosecutions and she claims she had no idea of this
@A2Z1Two3
@A2Z1Two3 2 ай бұрын
"Oh, what a tangled web she weaves, when first she practiced to deceive"
@grumpy-dad3701
@grumpy-dad3701 2 ай бұрын
Sorry not sorry. Salty crocodile tears
@davidavery3048
@davidavery3048 2 ай бұрын
An insult to our intelligence.
@MrPaulgroom
@MrPaulgroom 2 ай бұрын
I don’t recall, I can’t remember, to the best of my knowledge, I wasn’t aware, with hindsight etc, etc. This is a prime example of hiding the truth. She can be as sorry as she likes but that doesn’t correct the wrong and harm caused by her and her minions.
@Imw101
@Imw101 2 ай бұрын
My untrained Labrador puppy has just seen that and asked me "Hank, could I apply for the job of running the Post Office? It seems well within my talent, skillset and abilities".
@carlrobinson1480
@carlrobinson1480 2 ай бұрын
Tell them they over qualified
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