Civ 7 is a MASTERPIECE - 10/10 - Civilization 7 Review

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Negative Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jneseqdul8SdqaM Buy the game here I get money Base Edition: gamesplanet.com/game/sid-meier-s-civilization-vii-steam-key--6998-1?ref=potato Deluxe Edition: gamesplanet.com/game/sid-meier-s-civilization-vii-deluxe-edition-steam-key--6998-2?ref=potato Founders Edition: gamesplanet.com/game/sid-meier-s-civilization-vii-founders-edition-steam-key--6998-3?ref=potato

[@richbuckingham]

I'm so glad you delivered for us here Potato, that was an anxious 24-hour wait but thank you for always providing great, entertaining content.

[@paulscott1792]

Sorry too late or I would have

[@michaelmayhem350]

Woulda been a lot cooler if the link to the other video was actually a rickroll

[@realDonaIdTruck]

So if your positive review is 10/10 and your negative is 0/10: does that mean overall you give it a 5/5?

[@hellcy7237]

When you started referencing the UI I thought I was getting duped into a second scathing review about the UI

[@DongusMcBongus]

Inside of you there are two Potatoes: The review.

[@franciscoaguirre96]

And one of those potatoe is baked because it’s medicated 24/7/420

[@xstar001]

A Tale of Two Potatoes?

[@juliakovacs4885]

He's Irish, there's way more than two potatoes in him at any given time 😂

[@balambtransfer8317]

Top tier social experiment on which title and thumbnail get more views lol.

[@GodwynDi]

Watched both.

[@Septimus_ii]

I got recommended the negative one first

[@brycemanning5160]

The negative one kept popping up first. I love seeing both perspectives though. I remember everyone being upset with civ 6 at launch, but the game got better with age. I feel the reaction will be the same here.

[@NoTLucas]

@@Septimus_ii Same here. Still watching both though.

[@olegoleg258]

Ironically enough, so far both are equally watched. Perhaps most people watched both, though I got both recommended on my front page - the negative first

[@yazidefirenze]

You have to make a neutral review to appeal to the neutrals

[@snowfloofcathug]

What makes a man turn neutral? A lust for gold? Power? Or were they just born with a heart full of neutrality?

[@General12th]

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

[@jokehr3955]

I have no strong opinion one way or the other!

[@DeanWBarry]

Civilization 7 is a Okay - 5/10 - Boesthius

[@FrenchArrogance]

"Of all the games I've ever played, Civ 7 is one of them" 😁

[@dylantano8138]

On the bright side this video is twice as long as the bad one.

[@janpaca7147]

@@dylantano8138 And 7 minutes of it have been spent trashing the UI! Which is both good and bad!

[@bigpopppapump]

@janpaca7147 Nothing a few mods can't fix : D

[@haku-jin]

Half as many likes too!

[@SteinerNein]

@janpaca7147 boesthius spends most of his negative coverage as trashing the UI, the remaining on the rubberband mechanic. Suffice to say, I am a little bit afraid of the UI.

[@hermanmuncly1044]

0:53 What a minor, offhand nitpick. Surely we won't be hearing much about the UI in the negative review.

[@BaronessZen]

These two video notifications jumpscared me lmao

[@nebbit1]

Love that the positive video is a triple scout opening, and the negative is triple warrior.

[@ForestBertrand]

😂😂😂

[@kjj26k]

Woah. That is cool.

[@rileyschroeder8560]

Lmao that's an amazing detail I didn't catch it

[@moonshot9056]

Wow, paid-for shilling, you wont even mention a single bad thing about the game, shocking.

[@moonshot9056]

;)

[@aleksandaraleksandrov324]

I don't know why I've watched both reviews when I've already preordered

[@xger21]

I watched both and will be getting it here soon. I wanted to hear some of the good and bad.

[@chaseydog7956]

“I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir … the Jungian thing, sir”.

[@nn6404]

A tale of two spuddies

[@Siege181]

If anyone wants advice on the order to watch, I’d 100% recommend going and watching the negative review first and then come back to this one Potato, amazing idea with these two videos!

[@funkychicken886]

@@Siege181 it truly was the best choice I made.

[@MrBrock314]

Yes, that was a good choice.

[@0boro]

Smart strategy. People hunting for positive reviews can come here and those looking for negative will go to the other one.

[@brubie7584]

I like that you can hear the good things and bad things about the game. Can be important for deciding on buying.

[@ryanreed7688]

Or the super fans who watch both. FWIW it took the whole 15 minutes of the other video to put me on the fence about pre-ordering, but only 2 minutes of this one to convince me I should.

[@Ance]

The fact this has the same amount of views but 1k less likes than the negative review video perfectly encapsulates modern gaming

[@Herblore69]

idk man, this other guy in this other video said not to buy it, he was raving about UI or smth but it convinced me.

[@srgpancakes]

10/10 whoo!! *15 seconds later* hey wait a minute

[@asadsadboi8362]

I can’t believe this guy. Honestly kinda based

[@todo9633]

Spud literally covered everything he put in the negative video in this one, the other video is just him spending 15 minutes ranting about the UI lmao

[@TylerNeflas]

As someone who works in an office, I can confirm that the best way to get the higher ups attention is to drastically affect a metric that is reported on in a recurring meeting.

[@antoniodiez651]

I have played about 500 hours of civ 6 and never thought about the color coding of the buildings haha but yea I guess now that I think about it that’s totally there

[@MiniEquine]

@@antoniodiez651 what makes a fair like that great, is you don't *really* notice it until it's not there; it just kind of incorporates itself neatly into the gameplay.

[@Elidan1012]

Double dipping the review. +2

[@Ffourteen]

The first videos we got from our tuberous friend for Humankind and Millennium were all about what a breath of fresh air they were. Then we heard more negative things over time. His videos on Civ VII are the other way around. He came out hating fresh air, but is now begrudgingly admitting it isn't what he wanted, but is what he needed.

[@axiomsofdominion-f3c]

I mean there's absolutely zero cost to Potato crapping on Millennia, or even Humankind. There's a huge cost to truly going ham on negativity for Civ 7 or refusing to play it due to both audience size and his place in the streamer/tuber ecosystem. That is independent of whether Civ 7 is amazing or not. It really could be Civ 7 is better than the other 2. But the underlying structural stuff still exists.

[@MrBrock314]

@@axiomsofdominion-f3c That's only a concern if you think he would lie to you if he didn't like it. Based on his negative review of the game, he ain't pretending to like it but he seriously hates the UI. Shills don't pretend to absolutely despise a game element in the game they recommend you buy. :) Shills sound like "There are a few things to work out but give it a go." Potato: "The UI is fucking horrible - I ranted at the game dev for 10 minutes about it in DMs. They made every fucking mistake possible." and "The gameplay is very fun and the narrative events which I normally hate are ok and I hate them for being ok." Potato embodies the Grinch when talking about the UI ("Hate, hate, hate, double hate, LOATHE ENTIRELY!") and like a reluctant fan when talking about narrative events. If he's a shill, he would deserve an Oscar for his performance.

[@shyguysamurai]

We have the same conversation with every Civ release. The initial release always underwhelms, we rankle about the changes because change is scary, the devs iterate, we decide the changes are actually pretty fun, every new release improves the game and eventually we can’t see going back to older Civ games.

[@axiomsofdominion-f3c]

Well you also have evaporative cooling. The critical people eventually move on. When you are really mad at a sequel or say a book adaptation or w/e you can sustain the energy for a few months, especially around the actual release, but in the end the haters leave. Eventually only the supporters stick around and that happens with literally every major media franchise ever. Additionally the casual audience just doesn't have strong opinions on games. They play whatever is new and popular and showing up with content creators. If Civ 8 was a legitimate 6/10 it is still unlikely that it would have less players than the previous game even if the previous game was a legitimate 8/10. This is just incredibly consistent among major gaming franchises that have limited high production value competition.

[@ShacoPL]

@@axiomsofdominion-f3c good take

[@flyingtoastr]

Gonna be fascinating to watch the engagement for the positive versus the negative reviews and see what effect the algorithm has.

[@mysticseven6578]

I randomly clicked on the negative one first and felt obligated to go watch the positive one for exactly this reason. 😅

[@cuaroc3351]

yeah the early results are already pretty interesting, the negative video already has 2x the amount of comments.

[@TheGreatDanish]

@@cuaroc3351 I think thats because the main issue Potato has with the game is something we, the average viewer can see. The UI is something visible and easily understood through video. Gameplay is only easy to understand as 'good or bad' on video when its egregiously awful, like Drake and the 99 Dragons awful. Something so fundamentally fucked that even kids see it as trash.

[@xristosimprezas5006]

potato gave it a 0/10 and whiskey gave it a 10/10

[@TheMorninGlory23]

I like this idea. I watched both your reviews and feel like I got a good picture of how the game is

[@witty_comeback]

Completely relate to that feeling of wanting to replay and optimise a single civ over and over again until you get that perfect strategy. I had that a lot in civ 6 with civ's like australia, eleanor and the kree, glad it's here in this experience too and seemingly in an even greater way.

[@easykill2k16]

As a developer myself i want a teeshirt that says "Feedback not shitstorms"

[@IceWraith101]

unfortunately in order for people to shake off the lethargy and make the effort to communicate, usually emotion is required. And negative emotions are far more likely.

[@Lefaid]

Oh... I thought you had 2 thumbnails and made sure to click on the positive one because I want more positivity in the world.

[@mlsasd6494]

Very well executed with the two videos. It makes it possible to see points as they are (positive or negative) without needing to permanently point out the other sode exists. Super helpful

[@devonkornett7537]

Super excited to watch your playthrough when it comes out!

[@ezzeki1999]

When Potato talks about playing the same leader repeatedly with joy, I feel like the fresh new contents and the process of understanding the game better is his hook. Which with time will fade away. Maybe after a few 1000 hours. Which happened with him and me with Civ 6.

[@25AInMR25]

If à game hooks me for 100 hrs, Im happy with it. If it does for a 1000 (which I dont have), I love the game.

[@seekernomanjango]

I feel like when you're talking about a game's lifespan in the thousands of hours familiarity is impossible to avoid. If you get up to those numbers the game is doing a lot right.

[@dlutherc]

You're the first reviewer to talk about being "forced" to do activities in the exploration age (atleast that I've watched). That was something that I was really curious about. It seemed like a low key change from not being forced to do stuff in Civ VI to now having "chores" in Civ VII. I'll have to play to make a decision for myself, but I appreciate that you mentioned it.

[@PrinceJvstin]

After that blistering negative review...this was rather different. You contain multitudes, Potato!

[@larkendelvie]

Thanks Potato -- the two videos actually balance nicely.

[@dutyfreeadventures5924]

Damn man I'm so excited for this game. You said the magic phrase that sold me on it: "I find myself theorycrafting builds" that's EXACTLY what I hoped for. Imma buy the shit out of this, UI be damned

[@AnonymousNetizen-be6ww]

It is good to see that the positive review is twice as long as the negative one. I will watch them both!

[@funkychicken886]

I watched the negative video before this one and when you made that light jab at the ui in the beginning I absolutely died 😂 the rest the video was sunshine rainbows and unicorn farts as promised.

[@isaracloress471]

To paraphrase Frost, online updates and content editions are a monkey's paw, but I'm still betting 60, 40 in favor of the monkey.

[@OnboardG1]

I like the fact the devs have taken considered risks. No idea yet if I’ll like the outcome but nothing fucks me off more than “more of the same to appease the fans”.

[@sndchamp9949]

I’m excited can’t wait to see what type of responsibilities I’m gonna push back for just one more turn

[@pyromaniacpoet5841]

I don’t mind helping to shape the game I look forward to it in civ games, but I don’t like it being called a full release when it’s really early access. If we help shape the game we should pay for early access not full game price

[@p.taylor981]

22:38 I 100% agree but Songhai also can get Treasure Fleets without settling on DIstant Lands which I count as a deviation to the system

[@hackysac4528]

Positive video 2x as long as the negative video, when it's easier to vent longer when you are upset about things. Game def gunna be worth all I needed to see right there. Now time to enjoy Potato talk about all the nerdy civ stuff I love.

[@yokothespacewhale]

I personally really enjoy the separate class based launch dates.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

ARISTOCRATS PLAYING EARLY +1 RADICALISM WITH THE WORKING CLASS

[@25AInMR25]

​@@PotatoMcWhiskey😂😂😂

[@theral056]

Can't believe you didn't mention a single negative thing, very biased! :)))

[@Sheelahization]

I was undecided before watching both videos...now I'm just bloody confused 😂

[@lukeblunier6425]

I think the fact that your positive review more then twice the runtime of your negative review is a good sign overall.

[@Frank040675]

Can't wait to get stuck into it, it looks gorgeous. The new way of steering your leaders attributes looks fascinating.

[@stevencass8849]

Well. I totally didn’t watch the other video first, so I just know that you obviously love the UI and hope Firaxis doesn’t make any substantial changes.

[@MrDanlancelot]

I would love if the Legacy Path / Victory Conditions stuff were from a random pool; so maybe there's 3 possible Military Paths in the Antiquity Age, and each game it will randomly be 1 of the 3. With the Culture, Economics, etc., and the 3 Ages, you'd basically always have slightly different goals and no reliable prescribed path for every game

[@connerking747]

Thanks for all the content. I think the double review is a really fun way to explore both the positive and negative sentiments for the game's release.

[@richardlanglois172]

I'm definitely going to buy Civ VII. ... In 2028, when it's done.

[@mrcivilization112]

I hear you pounding the table when you explain how much you’ve got to master in the replay ability

[@Xalroc]

Humankind 2 sounds like a good selling point to me. Humankind walked so Civ 7 could run.

[@Jmcculloughc1350]

I also hope we will see changes to the ages, and potentially more ages, at least an Industrial and maybe a Nuclear Age.

[@CallanMcKenna]

Im very glad you mentioned this one in the other vid. YT notified me for the other vid but not this one

[@Mattchaby]

That's really cool what you're saying with support tickets and data points, because I can confirm that is 100% accurate

[@Charizardlison]

please potato, help to form the game towards how you want it :D for the sake of all of us!

[@xxMilakasiaxx]

Thanks for your review, I really love the idea of having less micromanagement and Im gonna buy the game immediately.

[@Jasonwfd]

10/10 review, no notes

[@amhowaye1605]

I just wanted a potato and a heart on myside

[@BotBrawler9699]

I'm glad to hear the ages and specificity of legacy paths have actually created more diverse ways to play. I realized I play almost every game of Civ 6 with the same strategy because there are objectively optimal ways to play.

[@Electropretzel]

The UI is actually very good for mobile devices and hand held consoles.

[@TTVKiraGloom]

Age of wonders 4 would be a good inspiration to steal ideas from such as the outpost instead of taking a settlement limit like you mentioned.

[@MrDrJonas]

This was the first video to show up for me out of the two

[@venetoaward]

The two videos should have had the same duration, I'm tempted to make a 0/10 - 10/10 review of these reviews

[@Clasteau]

The takeaway for me... He had fun and would play it more. And more. And then prolly summore. That tells me it's worth buying.

[@twothousandgt]

This review wasn't useful for me. It's nothing but positive opinions.

[@timpeterjensen2364]

I really hope we get atleast two more ages in the game, information age where the world starts going to hell, tiles get iradiated, global warming makes dead desert tiles expand each turn and the melting ice makes eats away at the coast. All this age is about building your getaway spaceship, and the 5th age, Alpha Centauri you land on the new planet and your start is determined by the choises and winconditions your civilization took. Ad you start a new space outpost. Ps i also hope we get outposts/town/cities in the game. Mayve with a 1 tile radius for the outpost for workable area (2 tiles for town and 3 for cities.)

[@georgecatton]

I hope to fix the lack of colour distinction for buildings they have 2 modes, picture and gameplay One for pretty screenshots and the other for actually being able to properly tell what you're looking at

[@Septimus_ii]

But I want the game to be both pretty and playable when I'm playing it

[@mahdibd]

here I am, getting recommended this video first, refresh my youtube page and saw the other video, thinking "what the heck, it just been 5 minutes and Potato already changed the thumbnail and title? so clickbait-ty"

[@YodaBauer]

Watched both of your videos and really appreciate your perspective. I definitely feel an ick about how expensive the game is and the different tiers for release... but I also drank the cool-aid because the early release just fit my work schedule better so... here we are I guess lol I am just trying to brace myself. I've been playing since 4 and I *never* like the new Civ at first. But I've always come around. I am just kinda assuming that's what is going to be here. Hopefully. I am super excited just for more Civ in general. I wanna support the series as a whole. And I fully believe they will adjust the game for the better as we go.

[@LinoonerBlue]

You know there's something right happening when you feel the compulsion to repeatedly explore what a singular leader can do. Taking both arguments into account, it really does seem like Civ 7 will eventually be great... It just needs more time to build on the skeleton. I'm fascinated on what the game will look like in a year or two.

[@JohnnyNumber11]

Didn't watch both videos (yet) but its insane, that the clicks aren't even 1% apart (yet). Normally negative content clicks way better than positive content.

[@ell9159]

check again

[@jammer9941]

Now that they have been out a few hours is clear that the negative does in fact generate more clicks. Clearly the internet doesn't like positivity

[@cadenruess943]

gotta love how the positive one is double the time as the negative review

[@realMemberberries]

I feel like the Age system actually inspires me to want to finish playthroughs alot more often. I feel like too many times I'll play a game as France or so and want to call it quits before developing Gunpowder.

[@bix_xid]

I am very excited to play it

[@Clasteau]

I'm glad they'll continue to allow mod support on the workshop.

[@rileyschroeder8560]

I appreciate the two video approach

[@michaelkelley7826]

i think i'll hold off on getting Civ 7 for now. i do want it, but as someone who came into the civilization games during post game of Civ 6, im not the greatest of players and would like to get into the next civ game when alot of the life comfort additions have been added to the game by the developers or by modders. Ill just have to keep trying to improve with 6, but will support our youtubers as Potato and VanBradley by watchin yalls videos to try to learn and keep up with what I will be getting into when i do make the purchase.

[@andrewstallard4127]

Potato, you know what you're doing, you crazy fool 👏👏👏👏

[@Deep_Sorcery]

The people who got early access all look like they enjoyed playing the game. That's a pretty good recommendation just by itself. I am personally looking forward to many things, including the unique look of each Civ's units.

[@MayhemMessiah]

God dammit Potato why do you always have to be so positive?

[@tomwarren5580]

I cant believe you would make a review that is entirety positive without bringing up any of the game's flaws. SMH ive lost all respect for you as a serious reviewer Potato

[@pezzshnitsol]

I completely agree that getting rid of builders was the right call, though having a builder action-queue would have also been a welcome innovation. In Civ 6 I know exactly how my builder is going to spend its charges the turn it comes out, I shouldn't have to manage it individually for the next 7 or 8 turns as it does movement and takes actions

[@davioliva7088]

This is a crazy strategy

[@ForestBertrand]

Civ 7 has lafayette best leader roster ever 👍 👌

[@SonesBen]

I didn't like civ switching in Humankind, but there were a bunch of specific reasons why that don't necessarily apply to Civ VII. The switching mechanics here seems different enough that I want to approach it with no preconceptions and give it a chance to sell me on the idea. Because even though it's a little bit of a bummer that Rome will never colonize space in Civ VII, it's possible that the switching mechanic brings enough new positives to the table to balance that out.

[@FonVegen]

It's interesting, we're at three times the comments on the negative review compared to this one, but the views are at this point in time *relatively* close with me seeing around 22k here and 28k on the other one. I predict the negative one will build more momentum from here though.

[@4thdimensionalexplorer]

This was probably the best way to review this tbh, it lets you address both sides without backtracking. I definitely changed my mind about buying it until they fmget it together and i hope enough people do so they dont profit off the greed at launch.

[@andrej8861]

youtube offered me the bad review first. Bad Yoututbe, bad youtube! Kudos to you for this idea, genius.

[@isaacdalziel5772]

I LOVE the diorama look it's incredible

[@quelanathecrow]

wooo!! I'm purely hyped so I'm happy to just watch this one lol ^.^ I expect the first big DLC will be adding an information era!

[@seanhoffman7934]

So we're all playing 6 on launch day right?

[@maartenbondt9600]

I love how the introductions are mirrored in both videos 😂

[@Imaging80]

The title scared me...but it is a reasonable approach. The good the Bad and the ugly...

[@chrisg6654]

Most likely gonna wait for this game to go on sale but still excited to see some content

[@Guillaumelapomme]

I need you to know that you're the only KZbinr that always makes me check the video player settings because my brain is convinced that it's somewhat on x1.25 speed. Every time I check, it's not. I'm a bit tired now, and currently recovering from your "bad review", so I decided to give x0,85 speed a try, also for shits and giggles... and yeah, you still sound totally normal on that speed.