I Always Wanted SAP Secondaries On Italian Battleships! - Sicilia First Impressions

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[@Posilepton]

13:35 smoke puff of the Sicilia should be much bigger than Columbo rather than smaller. Puff duration is also longer than Columbo than shorter.

[@PotatoQuality]

You’re correct I got it wrong in the video.

[@jamesharrington001]

SAP secondaries should've been the Italian BB mainstay if Napoli and the GV* are anything to go by. If that was done with the main battery being HE/AP like normal BB's they might actually be less frustrating to play. Like I want to love the Italian BB line, but the gun accuracy (Sigma) just makes it feel bad to play, not to mention feeling helpless against DD's due to lack of pen from secondaries and them only eating 10% of AP/SAP damage from the main guns. *Edit: I meant the Giuseppe Verdi.

[@-tr0n]

Yeah, I just stopped at the Doria. get 7 hits on a DD for 5k dmg. legit. broadside BBs at 10km, 1 riccochet. Angled cruisers at 15km, one sap pen for 5k. What's the point of guns if they don't work?

[@Frigidblood]

GS? Giulio Sesare? Giuseppe Serdi?

[@jamesharrington001]

@@Frigidblood sorry, ment GV

[@Asphroxia]

With the buffs colombo got in 13.1 it's actually quite a nasty bb now i'd say you should definitely give her a shot again

[@anubhavdassarma7230]

Food for thought. How about introducing two alternate hulls on the TT Italian BBs, one with HE guns and SAP secs, and one with HE secs, and SAP guns. People can choose what they want to equip and build around it.

[@Karnsteinchen]

doesnt make WG any money, so wont happen... xD

[@hagostaeldmann]

RB points are one of the most whaled resource in the game. Putting this in RB will print wargaming a million dollars.

[@aproudbaguette3605]

Legends Lepanto and Colombo : look what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power !

[@HOTANDFUNKY]

After how hard they massacred them those two are horrible secondary ships.

[@etherdoctor3759]

On legends all the italian BBs get SAP secondaries and Lepanto is one of the best preforming BBs in game and Colombo is hella strong too

[@xel1206]

Sounds like Bizarro World from a regular WoWS point of view. Because Lepanto and Colombo are kinda dogshite.

[@etherdoctor3759]

@@xel1206 ahh nah, italians are good, HE and AP main batery, SAP secondaries, especially you have a consumable called Enhanced Secondary Targeting which increases secondary accuracy

[@xel1206]

@@etherdoctor3759 Yeah, see. On PC in WoWS the Italians are probably the worst BB line. The big number of SAP main battery guns is useless, because of cant the broad side of a barn if you were inside.

[@etherdoctor3759]

@@xel1206 the differences are interesting, two complete oposites

[@AlphariusOne-k5e]

Yeah the Italian BB on Legends are insane. Columbo is a beast

[@Bans94]

Great Vid PQ, but imo this ship showcases WGs worst tendencies.. instead of changing the existing Italian tech tree BB to reflect player feedback they instead make a copy pasta with all the needed upgrades. Only upside is at least they aren't selling it for actual money >.>. That being said, I'm sure they will do that in the future so stand by!

[@CorsairCombat13]

They are finally buffing Colombo turret angles and sigma

[@Dont14-r4k]

Wait how? By like improving the length and make the super structured thinner?​@@CorsairCombat13

[@CorsairCombat13]

@@Dont14-r4k they artificially made the angles bad. So they are fixing them

[@Dont14-r4k]

@@CorsairCombat13 interesting, I'm assuming it's the forward turrets whilst kiting since the rears are 360 spinning.

[@Posilepton]

Not having SAP main guns is a big difference though. SAP guns are arguably much strong than SAP secondaries.

[@Blit_Wizbok]

i love it when he's actually enjoying himself, you can really hear it in his videos

[@hd3_824]

Hey PQ - My Research Bureau strategy is this: 1. Reset Harugumo line. 2. Use Free XP to research up to Akizuki. 3. Grind Akizuki & Kitikazi. 4. Research Harugumo but don’t buy it. 5. Repeat…. I think I got up to 20x stacked on Harugumo, Minekaze, Hatsuharu, and Shiratsuyu. Not buying (and then selling at 50% loss) those four ships probably saved me about 15 million credits per reset so total savings of almost 300 million credits over time…. Note: Researching w/ Free XP the whole line is about 650k Free XP, it can drain fast!. Just Researching all but the Akizuki and Kitikazi (and grinding them) only costs about 420 Free XP…. My math may be a little off but this seems to be a good balance between Free XP & Credit drain. Added bonus is the Aki & Kiti are a blast to play…. Any thoughts?

[@JohnWilliams-sq7cj]

Thats how the reset is normally done, lol, just restted 18x last week, still stiing over 100k rp though.

[@ImRandomDude]

this ship really plays along the theory that Colombo is scrapped design for USN ship

[@Tyrel64]

I was just looking at this ship a few hours ago, drooling and wondering when it could come out... Gimme!

[@beaugator]

Water cooling.. my I7 7700K running at 4.6 is now 8 years old. That's why water cooling. And, I'm disabled so it runs 16-18 hours a day... every day! I do all kinds of gaming and 4K editing on this machine!

[@davidballantyne4492]

So in game 2, when you pushed the Shima at the start did you know your Castilla would follow and hydro it or were you planning to proxy spot? :p It can be useful to pop your spotter when smoke is up to actually spot nearby ships rather than to extend range. Would have helped with that surprising Asashio in game 1 too. If you have a DD with poor AA it should be possible to bully them out of caps with smoke and secondary fire, assuming no radar.

[@FockeWolf100]

Adore my Colombo. Hoping the buff in 13.1 makes a difference.

[@NachtjagerVII]

I don't know if they changed it but I have this ship and it sucks as a secondary ship, the main guns are so inaccurate now that you will miss 12-14 of your 16 shots even inside 6km.

[@blazingmatty123]

Watercooling, custom water stuff? Could it be that one of my more favourite wows content creators is also a watercooling nerd too haha

[@vtr0104]

PQ, you need to take the plunge and give up Concealment Expert for Close Quarters Combat :D

[@FrostBeam009]

Been looking forward for this one!

[@marcom2248]

The hitting dpm from the secondaries is between the Luisitania and the Bungo but without any firechance. It has weak armor and underwhelming guns and it's slow af. So it's nothing for me.

[@robertraymond4709]

when is this coming out

[@joedawg39s]

I always wanted a gimmicky up-graded up-tiered Veneto hull instead of the bigger ones they made. kinda like an Italian Bourgone.

[@dragonfire1554]

Wouldn't worry about gameplay, it was a test of how far the ship can go. It can't go *that* far. lol

[@korinntv2175]

Can’t wait to grab this ship looks like a blast.

[@Cohowarren]

Fun ship but I'll never get. I can only play a little in hospital..

[@casthor64]

Any recommendations on what tech tree dd should I research? I was thinking about the French tree cause they seem fun to play but dunno what the best tech tree is tbh

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Well if you r new to dds then play the RN Daring line or maybe even USSR Grozovoi line.But playing french dds now will not turn out well

[@MrTrool323]

Sicilia is just what people wanted Colombo to be Pre nerfed Colombo with stuff that actually would make sense

[@motaz1975]

looks like another brawling style bb that will be a damage pinata for the enemy team.

[@AllesssKlar]

I grinded for my Standards for so long sooo many free XP and still cant really get the Ohio xD I thought about getting The Illinois, the more Cruiser style Gameplay suits me also more I think, because i play a lot Cruiser and Gunboat DD

[@davidballantyne4492]

People say Columbo was balanced around Deadeye, but I don't agree. WG just made a bad line. If Columbo was really balanced around Deadeye there should have been a general BB accuracy nerf at the same time because it would be stupid to balance only ONE BB line around Deadeye and a ITA BB buff on Deadeye's removal. Rather, WG overestimated how useful SAP and Smoke were and balanced around that overestimation.

[@janboen3630]

I think of using the Spannish Cruiser line for resetting. How much more FreeXP than the Harugumo line does this take?

[@BigD321]

Probably a good amount more, Haru and shima are straight up the cheapest lines in the game XP wise, if your using fxp theres no reason to not do those lines

[@ReDiR20]

Cruiser lines are quite cheap, only a bit more than cheapest lines. Worth it

[@holdencalvert3264]

Just curious what is the PC specs?

[@beardumaw24]

No ship had good armor when half the red team is shooting at you, lol

[@tonepilot]

Seems like a fun ship

[@Blythe985]

On world of warships legends all italian bb's have sap secondaries. I dont know why its banished to premiums in this game

[@RickardNilsson83]

Wonderful cammo! Must have taken them like 10 seconds to design

[@beardumaw24]

Always a freaking DD or Sub with OP torps showing up at the most unfortunate times ruining all the fun.

[@VicariousReality7]

7 of these ships existed

[@lendeinert6575]

PQ is in love

[@Mobadventures]

Why would they randomly out American secondaries and not regalo guns like in the lauria?

[@waffle3632]

Because for some reason they made the a regilo secondaries on lauria reload for 10.1 seconds so if they add them here they have to justify the reload time

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

American bias *Freedoms Internally*

[@tsuaririndoku]

Sell the solution, Comrade. Give them Problem. We sell them Solutions. WG

[@leonardopezente8663]

I don't feel like this ship should be RB, other than the secondary ( i understand that the smoke has a longer duration on this one, but the italian line also have the smoke) there is nothing super special on this one. Usually RB ships do have something that is reeeally unique to them for their class/nation, but sicilia don't feel like that. I would not mind as coal, but for RB? not really.

[@smh6926]

Just a notice here, the so called buff the colombo is getting is just a return of its original specs before they nerfed its sigma, rudder shift and firing angles for main turrets 3 and 4

[@kizune3322]

Dang, just spent all my rp for defence - guess time to use fxp.

[@zblack2669]

tanks pq

[@robopup1]

Looks like fun but I think I will be going for the Ohio

[@ASHole71]

Lol every island does not end in a cliff underwater Beaches exist

[@baronofrhodes1185]

Wait... why on Earth does she have 127/38s?

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

15:48 - not your teams finest game either. Your two DDs and sub on the team basically suicided.

[@DaroZuo]

Potato firing J-Roc quotes, know'm'sayin?

[@beqan2]

you know wargaming will nerf the harru research now...

[@stalinexpress]

Aww crap DX i realized that agamerplays0 was me i tried to get cover from an island but i died im getting embarrassed in a vid

[@deelyyet9573]

i never played this game but i like watching your videos. i am play war thunder naval but its not complate yet.

[@ishaanthadani7100]

Day 3 of asking PQ to do a vid on Worcester/ Seattle. Great video as always! ❤

[@Katjvarna]

1:03 what kind of buffs colombo will get?

[@cheeseplate44]

turret angles, sigma and rudder shift

[@Katjvarna]

@@cheeseplate44 do we know when this changes will go live?

[@CaptainSpud88]

The over pens in this game are so ass I played 2 games over weekend and got annoyed and went and played Tarkov and tanks

[@Hana81110]

Kinda awkward that the italian bb has american secondaries, honestly they should at least put on some italian gun.

[@its_yeet_or_get_yeeted7845]

They really couldn't of made the secondaries look like the Italian ones? the American mounts look horrible on this ship lol

[@01talima]

ooo ffs i just spent all my RP!

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

If it was on Ohio you are fine

[@01talima]

​@@thatinternetguyj5222 ive got massa , georgia bourge etc ohio just felt like a bit oo much of the same so i got Illinois instead , a lot happier with it than my other RP purchase i got siegfried last time , about 3 days before they completely changed it.

[@thatinternetguyj5222]

@@01talima Ye. Get Vampire II in my opinion. Australian bias machine (unless you do not like dds very much)

[@antonygray7092]

Ah yeah nah. Silicia is a hard no. 5.8kms AA still totally sucks on asia server, 6.9kms is almost good enough. maybe when the cv spotting nerfs come in, yeah whatever.

[@leemarcus6123]

Giuseppe Verdi is sad

[@turkmenabatl5490]

bot gamer xd

[@Jackel-om5bz]

Looks weak at the best, what a POS battleship

[@harrisonturner1401]

kinda gay they just copied pasted American secondary's

[@4j_2905]

First!

[@Rolkatsuki]

might as well call them Wokegaming instead of Wargaming... smh

[@zagareth4604]

You might remember, but this isn't the first Italian BB with SAP secondaries. The Guiseppe Verdi (Marco Polo sister ship) also has the combo of AP/HE (406s) main guns and SAP secondaries. It works very well and it's a lot of fun, but somehow I always went back to the German secondary ships... Update: The secondaries DPM on a 100m² area are better than the secondaries from the Sicilia. So is the Sicilia worth the grind just to get an italian secondary BB? Your choice...

[@safety_doggo2]

Lauria has them too.

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

the Verdi doesn't have improved secondary dispersion if I remember correctly. It turned out underwhelming to a lot of people.

[@zagareth4604]

@@maltemejlstrup4746 The Verdi is pretty much on Pommern level, more hitting DPM, but no fire chance. But the smoke/secondary tactic is quite amusing, but you need to have the spotter plane up, so you can't get too close to the enemy or it gets shot down. And then you dont see anything, except other spot for you

[@chillylytical9410]

I think it’s a unpopular ship just because the secondaries only have sap going for them with no improved accuracy or range. Then you get anemic main guns as well in terms of accuracy,

[@zagareth4604]

@@safety_doggo2 But Lauia got also SAP main guns, which are quite nasty...

[@astronomonov486]

Just heard about the haru RP farm. Important thing to say Is there is no need to purchase the ship with credits. Just research and move on untill you want to collect the RP.

[@Choukai_Chan]

Lets goooo! Just finished my 6x reset on the Harugumo line yesterday. 71k awaiting my ultimate dream Italian BB!

[@ResistLight]

Is it gonna be for RP ? Confirmed ?

[@luukvst1032]

Yes 60k rp

[@Choukai_Chan]

@@ResistLight PQ said it at the start of the video. 3:10

[@ResistLight]

@@Choukai_Chan Oh yeah the Updates Note also stated it

[@ilovecan3116]

@PQ is this your new cc account

[@Mithril_Antimarr]

Main secondaries pen 36mm... feel like they missed an opportunity to have all secondaries pen 40mm to make it more effective against cruisers like the petro... after all this presents like a cruiser killer (Italy's version of Mecklenberg)... reload and accuracy on the secondaries appears very ordinary so it feels like they could have given it a bit more pen to compensate. This ship has plenty going for it, I am not anti it, just feels like if they added 1 more slight buff to it they could get a good take up if they sell it for dubs as an early access offer (buff secondaries -> either pen, range, accuracy or survivability, if they just buffed 1 they could make real money off this).

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

any reason why you keep insisting in using AP when SAP is devastating on this ship?

[@ImaSpacePotato]

Very unimpressed with this ship. The only time where the secondaries had any significant impact were against the suicidal Asashio. Secondaries have less DPM than Ohio and don't set fires to boot. Less effective DPM than the T9 Giuseppe Verdi in fact. Many salvoes of against angled ships and unfortunate broadside overpen salvoes that would have been much better with SAP. Not much point in removing the SAP of the AP is still hampered by sigma. Would have been much more interesting had they kept Colombo's reload but substantially increased sigma. As it stands Sicilia just looks like an uptiered take on the Verdi, which even has the long smoke gimmick to boot. I'm much more interested in Colombo itself once it gets the small buff to sigma and the massive rudder shift and firing angle buffs.

[@monssterific]

Sicilia, you’re breaking my heart You’re shaking my confidence daily 🎵🎶 🎤 I’m sorry guys 😭😭, everytime I see this ship in the game, it makes me sing while shooting at it. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

[@lex0266]

Why does it get American aa and secondairies? Its soooo weird.. and 5inch mounts with 127mm guns??? What the hell is wg smoking to design that.

[@infty1369]

Asashio, where the Z??? Still, shYma instead of i, but softer than before. Also, surprise surprise, the secondaries are meh.

[@franz265]

The next time you upload a ship review learn 2 aim beforehand otherwise this is a waste of time your quality of content really dropped man.

[@SkyRaider-31]

It's so dumb that they kept Colombo on pc the way it is but took all the feedback to turn Colombo in legends unto the monster It is

[@IleneOva]

I like your content and can put up with that valley girl accent. But that fake laugh drives me insane.

[@hagostaeldmann]

Giuseppi Verdi has basically identical secondaries and arguably better guns at a full tier lower at the cost of 20k HP. Giuseppi is stealthier, faster, and more maneuverable as well. Putting this ship out for Research Bureau points is heavily taking the piss out of this community.

[@tanidigagliano]

Man it's Giuseppe Verdi not Giuseppi

[@710BODY]

So… now First place going to Sicilia and second place going to Ohio. Yes? Steel ships

[@FormulaZR]

I feel like this vid was rushed to the point that it's for entertainment purposes only.

[@bokelund9176]

i hope they will buff the colombo its so pretty

[@Blit_Wizbok]

them secondaries couldn't hit the broadside of a GK man yikes

[@franz265]

Dude i have you on 125% and you still speak slowly wake up man.

[@tombeer9]

Honestly this thing looks half sicilia half Iowa 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@tominmtnvw]

Just no. The detect ability is ridiculous at almost 18 km.

[@samc1724]

how do you get test ships, are you an ambassador for this game 😢

[@Arhiman93]

Those secondary turrets give me enormous OCD

[@Lt_Koro]

Columbo if she would be good

[@atpyro7920]

Who needs sevastopol eh

[@berserker4940]

LET'S GOOOO

[@ИосифЛуна]

It`s just that Colombo and Sicilia are very straught battleships they hate taking things from the back. Same goes for Napoli, by the way. And Lauria double downs on this with citadel exposed through stern. This Shellcatchers are a big thing.

[@SuperCrazf]

Talking about Colombo, the other day I had a fun game where I went and demolished a flank with AP. Killed a CV, two battleships and a cruiser before dying to everyone else. We ended up winning

[@saika4043]

Have fun aircooling a Intel 12-13th gen or Ryzen 9 7000 series under full load, you NEED a 360 AIO to keep that under control or you'll easly thermal throttle.

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

"...and they very quickly took that skill away from the game." Yeah, because the playerbase whined and held its breath until it turned blue. Giving in to them was one of the worst mistakes WG ever made.

[@GodOfWaaar]

thx for sharing this video. i'm following your account since roughly the time when 10.0 / colombo came out. I really liked your colombo videos back then. This remindes me of them.

[@Boatswain_Tam]

This is what the Italian BB line should have been. They could have kept the lower calibre IT secondaries but improved parameters

[@AlphariusOne-k5e]

This must be a new thing to pc? The Italian BB gimmick on console is the long range sap secondaries mixed with exhaust smoke

[@AdamtheRed-]

Oof. You only have 600 of each ship module. Not sure if that's enough, my man. And it seems like the armor is thick enough to arm absolutely all shells.

[@rysterstech]

Air cooling man ,its simply the best value.

[@beardumaw24]

I hope they buff the Columbo as I've almost got it unlocked, hoping as accurate as my Montana 😉