They Finally Buffed The Firing Angles!!! - Zao Buffs 14.0

[@TheKCaryer]

Zao was my 1st teir 10 in 2020 when I started playing WOWS. So I have a sort of bias toward the Zao. However the torp launch angles were suicidal. Glad the changes have been made.

[@XxXStoneFingerXxX]

same here. when i swtched from Zao to other nations' cruiser lines, I was shocked at less accuracy and shell velocity. really got pampered by the consistency of Zao guns

[@uzbazac7407]

Zao and more short ranged cruisers are strong af back in the day because of Invifiring. Remind me of AFT/BFT-era of Clevelands and Mogamis shooting from 17-18km away and no one able to spot them because the spotting mechanics were different back in 2015-2017. This includes all those Range Modded T9-T10 cruisers

[@michaellemmer2966]

Blyskawica stealth fire back in the day was really fun after you killed all the DDs

[@anders4442]

I miss these good old days.

[@CCM1199]

Zao was my first T10 unlock when the game first came out. It is also my most played cruiser in the game. back then it was the cruiser with the trollish armor and used to bounce Yamato rounds if you angled just right. I still played Zao throughout my years even with the power creep and I run the Zao with the Legendary mod so that I dont have to use outnumbered which does the same as the legendary mod and instead I use top grade gunner.

[@biloxi9761]

the ap on broadside Ca's and even some BB's does real good dmg. Switching when the opportunity arises does pay off.

[@LasertechStudios3142]

Having thought on the kiting problem for a bit, I really think the core issue is the fact that dispersion is dispersed more horizontally than vertically. You would think this would help bow-in ships tank (and it does) but that interacts quite badly with another feature of dispersion. Since dispersion gets worse at longer ranges and lead times are worse at longer ranges as well, the best positions are ones where the optimal position is presenting oblique angles at as long of a range as possible while still getting most of your guns on target. Kiting away does all of these things while also allowing you to hold the range at a preferred distance. If you flipped the orientation of dispersion, it creates situations where the optimal position to avoid incoming fire is sitting flat broadside. I think that would create a much more interesting game personally, as the tradeoffs between repositioning, leveraging armor and getting guns on target means that you have to tailor your engagement profile differently in many situations. To make pushing without concealment suck less in that system, I would also recalculate superstructure HP values to make them saturate much faster. Perhaps also making it so that superstructure damage is capped to only take out a certain chunk of a ship’s HP? I think fires might have to stay, but the brute force HE/SAP pummeling ships to death is way overdone in this game.

[@jimd9053]

Tulsa next?

[@papasmurf6423]

Take a look at Repub with the improved sigma? Thanks

[@Rolkatsuki]

Repub's main guns are scarily amazing.

[@Nabsolute_]

Zao was all I cared about back when you could stealth fire in open water

[@smoku7588]

the fun part about trying to brawl is that Libertad is actually a kiting ship

[@IowanLawman]

Tulsa is also pretty good now with the DD dispersion buff. DDs absolutely melt when they get caught by the Tulsa and its radar.

[@aphexbanger]

You should try the new buffed Tulsa as well. Thinking of buying it for coal.

[@donfitz69]

Wish they would bring back the rudder shift that originally came with the legendary upgrade.

[@SuperCrazf]

The improved torpedo angles are a god’s end thank god now I can finally torp while retreating without risking dev strike

[@jeromesavard5703]

You should make a review of Venezia, IMO now the best cruiser of the game.

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

No thats Moskva :-)

[@TheKasperlkopf]

Nah it's leg mod petro​@@vitezslavlorenc3479

[@kssharp3534]

venezia is definitely fun but very situational

[@Hugzzi]

Venez isn't even the best pasta cruiser in the game..

[@Mattias1172]

What if on the A/B and I/J lines, there was a debuff of damage/dispersion, like 5%. You can still sit there, but people that move up will get a little more damage etc. And if someone pushes into those lines/into enemy spawn, they get the debuff evening out that fight.

[@gabausaurus8315]

Coule you do a vid on Tulsa next ? It just got DD dispersion and I think it’s better (+ you love 6 gun ship xD)

[@KarlFlorence]

I am waiting for Yari 😂. They probably buff zao because of Yari

[@nugs-644]

Pls do the Jinan next

[@ManuR-l4m]

Yeah. Jinan reviews wont stay up to date for long as WG buffs this ship like every 2nd patch. Potatoes insta blow up in light Cruisers. WG be like "oK, We nEeD tO bUfF dAmAgE oUtPuT. aGAiN."

[@blakenoble-u7e]

Please revisit Kronstadt! The armor layout of the citadel is unique and feels way better than Alaska!

[@HappyMistakes]

Fun to see game meta is still a difficult thing for WG to impact. I certainly don't envy the their position, it's a difficult thing to do. I recently started playing again after about 3 or 4 years away and I am here wondering if maybe a universal reload increase for everything in the game could be beneficial. When i say everything, I mean eeeverything. Something like a flat 10 or 15% increase to all main guns, secondaries, torpedoes, sub torpedoes, sonar pings, CV strike cool-downs, airstrikes, and depth charge drops. Anything dealing damage. Nobody likes having their DPM reduced but maybe if the effect is applied universally, it'd give players more breathing room. Fewer people getting caught bow in and dying or sitting so far back because they are concerned about getting caught bow in and dying. Maybe it'd give players some room to complete a turn before that next BB salvo comes in etc. Allowing for some mistakes to be made and still get yourself out successfully with smarter decisions. Slowing down the over-all pace of the game may not be looked at favorably, though. I can totally understand that.

[@robertcras8151]

I play with the legendary... do you have it too on the Zao?

[@robertclemmons1666]

Yes, absolutely

[@philipreber3314]

No too expensive and too weak to pay that price. It is comparable dpm and the range is not needed with fast spotter skill.

[@robertcras8151]

@philipreber3314 it is now, it used to be cheaper. And the extra range with the accuracy is very very nice. I do the same as Potato Quality and follow the DDs in and once an enemy DD is spotted and turns away, with the added accuracy you can seriously hurt them. Hurt them so much they have to play very careful since their health is seriously depleted.😀😀😀

[@philipreber3314]

Yeah legmod definetly is a good thing and the missing turrendturn debuff on that is also very nice, like i play my zao with turrent turn mod instead of dispersion mod and with legmod both disperion mods could be very viable meaning the disperion buff of this mod gets very high in the end.

[@crabsyoureit]

@philipreber3314 Do you ever read the things you type before you post them?

[@tevaleberga8235]

Zao turned from a meme ship to a really good option TX, amazing

[@jebbyc6419]

You've played this while there's a dispersion bug, both aiming systems and the leg mod are being applied twice.

[@nicholaswhitfield9341]

Is it even possible to buff GK turret angles? They're so wide due to the spacing of the guns in the turrets that any better firing angles and the barrels would be hitting the superstructure right?

[@Coyote27981]

It still needs a 32mm deck like ibuki and get rudder boost on the legendary module

[@Harcitehen]

hey, which mod is the one that only shows the targeted ship's name and the others are small?

[@outsidein3206]

Really haven't played Zao in years, another port queen. With the range mod however i recall the shell arcs at max range being practically low earth orbit worthy. Time to target was days.

[@taiko1237]

24:06 The most common WoWs ad I see is much more realistic in terms of what actually happens in game, a Satsuma sniping some American cruiser over an island from halfway across the map lol

[@andreiirm7300]

awesome content as always, just want to highlight something, ive got 3500 games i dunno how i qualify as a player, and a BB main, and although i haven t played all the tier X BBs yet, i had 50k of reasearch points on my way to ohio, but i ve willingly spent those and some free xp to go from the most frustrating BB ever the tier VIII venetto to leg mod colombo. BOOM first 10 games i ve averaged 140 k and 80% win rate, i dunno if the game was giving me a free pass or this ship is dead busted that even a semi noob like me can go from 54k avg to 140k

[@Schorch1962]

Maybe it`s time to give Zao a try again. Have to reskill its captain, eye in the sky seems like a must-have skill. The legendary update is in my inventory and will stay there as long the nerf of the rudder shift time will be removed. Wargaming removed the improved rudder shift time on the leg. upgrade completely so i changed to the range mod. Worked good for me, guns were good as usual. As the russian DD`s came into the game, the only cruiser i feared in them was Zao. Chabarovsk has 50mm side armor, so an AP salvo from Zao was a huge ouch moment.

[@90witito]

Might be time to re- install WoWs

[@scottduke1]

Can we get an update on you current mod set up?

[@Nabsolute_]

pleess!!!. every reticle I try is dog crap so I stay with stock dynamic. pq has a different one in every vid!

[@mandesir1]

For the record, you are not overstating Colombo lol

[@hazand3514]

Is all tech tree tier to zaõ have buff toperdo angel to

[@HatrXx78]

Zao has always been a strong ship. I never understood the hate toward it. Yes it needed better torp angles etc, but it has always been strong. I think the hate comes from people trying to play it wrong. Be sneaky and unload high dps from range and kite like a pro. You can burn BBs down pretty easy with Zao

[@robertclemmons1666]

Play Zao like a ghost or assassin. Get a good position unload, go dark, reposition as needed. Wash; rinse; repeat

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

I mostly agree with you. But the gun turret angles were atrocious, and so this buff is greatly appreciated.

[@PuntoCeroOcho]

Buffed repu next?

[@charcolttheone3492]

I am a shimanto fan but i should grind out the ijn heavy cruiser line

[@TheKasperlkopf]

I'm really hyped for 2.1 sigma republique

[@desert7868]

Test ship Zao finally got released. Wow

[@DarthSkyCo]

Need Hindy to get a Buff asap!

[@philipreber3314]

In my mind zao neither needed health nor the recent buffs besides torpangles maybe bc 12km in the amount of broadside was kinda suicidal. But in my mind zao is correctly played with prop+ruddermod making it so fkn manuverable it doesnt take many shells at all like 2 mio pot easy in randoms and it allows you to tank for ur team while melting the enemy big ships at range. And range in zaos world is anything above 12/13km bc thats where it becomes easy to dodge whole bb salvos so u dont risk much. I dont really use the gunangle buff bc the more broadside u are the more u can throw off the enemys aim but when shot by several or fast shooting enemys the angles are comfty bc u can shoot and dont have to give the enemy free broadside to hit that u only should expose when u know the enemy shoots after ur rudder is back at mid position. An i absulutely dont know how leg mod can be too little range ^^ I do play reload bc of the great manuverability and spotter range is enough.

[@TomBhai-nc9wh]

Zao or Hindenburg?

[@zygmuntwaza1069]

Both

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

Zao

[@とっとこ公太朗-v9z]

Of the two, Zao is better. You will understand immediately after hearing this. Hinden's HE has the weakest alpha damage of any heavy cruiser, and conversely, its AP has very high alpha damage but the weakest penetration of any heavy cruiser.Moreover, her torpedoes have a 6km range and do less damage than Zao, and she doesn't even have a submarine detector. Zao has been made fun of a lot, but its performance itself was never bad except for the ride comfort. Hinden is not the weakest, but it needs buffs more than Zao. I welcome Zao's buffs, but I think it's very sad that Hinden didn't get one.

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

@@とっとこ公太朗-v9z Also you can sneak to enemy DDs much better than Hindenbug can cos of your lower detectability.

[@eiresby2344]

Sadly Ibuki and below not affect the buff

[@TheKCaryer]

What is the “lighthouse build?”

[@mjxw]

zero points or upgrades to concealment, max points and upgrades to reload + shell damage probably most used on Henri IV and Conde - you get like a 15km+ concealment, stay at max range spamming HE

[@philipreber3314]

Full lighthouse also combines heavy he with the 4 pointer that decreases reload when sb is in standart detection range. Henry in full lighthouse almost matches conceal and range meaning if u can shoot u have reaload boost from the skill plus he dmg buff from heavy he significantly increasing dpm

[@GroceryGetterST]

Its a cowards build and has no real use in actual random battles because 99% of players have absolutely no clue how to do it properly. They just sit in spawn and try to hit things 20km+ away while their team loses.

[@philipreber3314]

@@GroceryGetterST its not a cowards build but a build that has high skill floor and seeling

[@travelwell8098]

I always hated this ship... even more than CVs. To be specific, I hated playing against this ship. I hated the HE spamming.... almost every salvo started a fire, not to mention the alpha damage. I still hate this ship.

[@MuffShuh_PA]

how about something 'fun'? picardie as secondary build :D

[@RicardoFEcker]

zao on wows legends has dd dispersion lol... i think she is the most precise cruiser on legends

[@PitchBlackYeti]

All Japanese 203mm armed cruisers have DD dispersion pattern on PC WOWS, Zao has extra edge because of much better ballistics,

[@RicardoFEcker]

@@PitchBlackYeti wow.. on legends is only zao

[@irayakevin3473]

Please do Günther Lütjens, full on secondaries in 7 km hydro Hannover.

[@R-2500]

Now buff Lion turret angles

[@n2t460]

Zao has worse citadel than Salem... I always enjoy killing the Zao free kill 😅

[@ayrshark9314]

On the topic of the current meta I actually do kinda blame the players. Everyone plays way too passively making pvp matches take longer to finish which gives subs and carriers more time to chip away at everything because everyone is too afraid to get their paint scratched while the players that DO try to play aggressively get next to no support and then ridiculed for at least trying to do something other than cower in the back waiting to get picked off. I bet you if people were more aggressive then carriers and subs would be a lot less of a problem than they're considered to be and matches would be less about who the server favors more at long range. Since that'll never happen it'd be nice if the players in chat would stop insulting everyone and at least provide tips to those that seem to be struggling with their ship. Pvp just isn't fun and trying to learn how to play a class of ship properly is made even less so by the player base. Kinda why I stopped bothering with the pvp aspects of the game.

[@MrNeil-qs5fo]

I thought it felt different when I played it today I did better than usual :)

[@audigex]

Overmatch has ruined high tier cruisers

[@DirectorBird]

Tulsa next please.

[@joedanker3267]

Conde buff plz. Needs more accuracy on F ley. Jk

[@Cpt_DoDo]

zao is so much better to play. love it agin

[@BaturalpSAYIN]

Nice, I like zao

[@capt7Dwwgg]

YESS ONE MINUTE CLUB!

[@SuperMikester77]

Buffzao

[@aronderocchi]

Cruisers already have 10k alpha dmg when they spam he now they buff them, lol ok

[@Halbostfriese]

Love the laughs at WeeGee's shenanigans. As Jingles likes to say: The laughs are fake, only the tears are real... Even after Zao's buff, I have lost all hope for this game.

[@nixFawkes]

N🧊 car

[@Timel3ss_Wh1sper]

dude seems like he needs to laugh after everything her says

[@evildogbeast7272]

Yeah OMG how dare he have some semblance of a good time. We should try to drag him down! 🙄

[@HoshikawaHikari]

Way too comfortable to play now haha

[@concordgaming5277]

First bro

[@CeleryCarrots]

Kapulikepolutuymopinkolebiyugeturopike

[@Ristogod]

I hate that you make this game seem viable as something to do that's "fun". The game is so flawed and wargaming doesn't give a crap. It's purpose built to stew hate. The people you're stuck playing with also, just horrible; die within moments and leave you alone against a team of 12. And will pair you with those same failure team mates consecutively for 50+ matches in row.