Potential sabotage: What's behind the Nord Stream pipeline leaks? | DW News

Danish and Swedish officials on Tuesday said two leaks had been identified on the Nord Stream 1 Russia-Europe gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea. The news came only hours after a similar development on its twin pipeline, Nord Stream 2. Both conduits have become flash points in the escalating energy war that has sent gas prices rocketing since Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Officials said a pressure drop was detected in the Nord Stream 1 undersea gas channel soon after a similar fall was detected in its sister pipeline, Nord Stream 2. Both of Nord Stream 1's two lines are affected, while one of Nord Stream 2's pipelines showed a drop in pressure. Marine authorities identified a gas leak southeast of the Danish island of Bornholm as the likely cause of the issue affecting Nord Stream 2. Danish officials warned of a threat to shipping in the area and asked vessels to steer clear. Swedish authorities on Tuesday said there were two leaks on Nord Stream 1 - one in the Danish maritime economic zone and the other in the Swedish one. The two leaks were reported to be very close to one another. The German economy ministry said it was investigating the incident.
"We currently do not know the reason for the drop in pressure," it said.
Blasts registered by Swedish seismologists
Seismologists from Sweden's National Seismology Centre (SNSN) told public broadcaster SVT that powerful blasts had been registered in the areas of the gas leaks on Monday.
"There is no doubt that these were explosions," SNSN seismologist Bjorn Lund told SVT.
Denmark's armed forces meanwhile released footage showing bubbles on the surface of the Baltic Sea above the Nordstream 1 and 2 pipelines and reported that the largest of the leaks had caused surface disturbance of around 1 kilometer (0.62 miles) in diameter.
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[@KALSNET]

Blaming Russia for this is like saying that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. 😅

[@takundaluwizhi8926]

USA

[@KALSNET]

@@chrisviking7807 so does USA

[@KALSNET]

@@chrisviking7807 the USA has a lot to profit with this. Russia gains nothing.

[@xman1533]

So True 🤣🤣

[@marcbachelet2322]

You are absolutely right, man. Russia could fabricate some excuses and turn it off. She would not have to blow it up.

[@Alpheccca]

Just a wild guess, but it was probably someone that didn’t want Germany using Russian gas, and has openly expressed their opposition multiple times. 🤔

[@hobosapiensSinceShadowMoses]

CIA is watching you ahha

[@santap9332]

Biden did it. He said ok tv he will do it

[@idyllsend6481]

Welcome to the CIA checklist, you know too much.

[@hobosapiensSinceShadowMoses]

@@idyllsend6481 John Wick spotted on your garden

[@harshittyagi3175]

USA

[@simsnqta]

Why you want a non operational pipeline to be full of gas: 1. To balance the external pressure from the sea water acting on it ~ 7 BAR G i.e. less stress on the pipe 2. To avoid any potential internal corrosion - dry gas (if such) is better than any condensation from humid air 3. Prevent any sea water entering the pipe in case there's a puncture

[@leo1365]

What are you trying to say? Not judging I just don’t understand.

[@jjc1347]

Well it has been confirmed by Seymour Hersh that US and Norway were involved with the destruction of Nord Stream 1 & 2. Look it up.

[@Ori06]

didn't president Biden say earlier in the interview that he'd do everything he could to stop those pipelines 🤔

[@DiviAugusti]

Nordstream 1 and 2 blown up on the exact day Norway's pipe to Poland goes online. That would be an amazing coincidence. Or it's an extremely obvious message.

[@larsrons7937]

Actually the day before opening the Baltic Line but nonetheless no coincidence for sure. It sends us all a message that other lines (electricity, oil, internet, gas etc.) are vulnerable and can also be cut. It's used as a pressure to try to make us nervous, to instill fear.

[@paulefc1971]

@@larsrons7937 Russian subs are always messing around near undersea comms cables, the Royal Navy are spending a lot of time dissuading them from doing anything, i imagine the Navy’s of the Baltic states also undertake such dissuasion missions

[@annaredding]

It's the obvious message. I'm waiting when the LNG terminals finally start blowing up. A couple steps more before that happens...

[@annaredding]

@@larsrons7937 Yep. I'm actually impressed by this move - destroyed bits of nonoperational pipelines so send a message without being too escalatory. And then milking it with price of gas, getting out of contracts, and demanding sanctions being lifted. I mean, you have to give it to the Russians - they are great at this game.

[@_John_P]

@@paulefc1971 They got only one submarine capable of messing up with underwater cables and pipelines, and one research vessel with deep sea rovers. Sink both and the problem is gone.

[@jasonm755]

Speaking to reporters on February 7, Biden said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2." "We will bring an end to it," the president said. A journalist asked Biden how he could do that since Germany was in control of the project, the president replied: "I promise you: We will be able to do it."

[@Wild-Eye]

I wasn't surprised to see them not mention that.

[@harmgregory4560]

we seem to have trolls....

[@spinner4148]

@@harmgregory4560 tbh America has already demonstrated its dubious trustworthiness as an ally, this wouldn't surprise me at all

[@Hazzelnot94]

That would mean one of two scenarios happened. a) The US did it in cooperation with the Danish government, a government that went to election on an environmental platform and enacted environmental issues and protections. If they were to be caught cooperating with the US government on blowing up the gas pipes, it would mean the death of the Danish social democratic party. b) the US blew up the pipes without notifying Denmark. That would create a rift within NATO and a massive diplomatic incident. Both options include huge risks with very little rewards. It doesn't make sense. Russia on the other hand don't have nothing to loose, the pipes aren't used and ain't gonna be used for the foreseeable future, meaning Russians could blow it up and demonstrate capability with very little risk.

[@Parasite743]

@@spinner4148 the U.S.A. doesn't have to help you or anyone else. Save yourself. And don't ask for our help constantly. If Europe is so great, you should have been able to prevent this entire conflict, yes? Its on your soil after all.

[@vladimirkorobkin510]

A good analysis by Mr. Schmitt, except where he tries to speculate on ‘who benefits’ from the blasts. Here his critical thinking ability sharply drops and becomes feeble. To suggest that Russia destroyed its multibillion dollar investments instead of trying to use gas supplies as a huge bargaining chip - with an energy crisis already raging in Europe and shortly before winter - to me amounts to feeblemindedness.

[@cba4389]

Your boy putin needs to finally learn-- mess with the bull, you get the horns. No more gas supply threats! haha, little boy putin has been shown his place.

[@vladimirkorobkin510]

@@cba4389 Dear Sir, in tune with your proverbial tone may I remind you that he laughs best, who laughs last. I wish you all the best.

[@phoenixblanco3892]

@@cba4389 "That'll show Putin; we'll freeze the entirety of Europe! We sure showed him!"

[@cba4389]

@@phoenixblanco3892 Who knew counting on russia would ever be a problem? You would need a really big brain to see that coming.

[@phoenixblanco3892]

@@cba4389 Donald Trump said that to Germany and the rest of Europe during a NATO summit a few years ago and was mocked for it.

[@sustainablerenewableintegr8311]

Why does Russia have to blow up the pipeline when they can just shut off the valve?

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Exactly, i am saying the same thing over and over.

[@xueueux]

WHAT A FRIEND???!!! Crazy how none European politicians dare to unite and stand up confronting their "friend"...

[@adriannn1180]

SO f*****g true LMFAO, they know it was USA, but who do they blaim YES OFC RUSSIA why would they not...

[@515coldfire]

Who needs an enemy when you have a friend that can blow up your infrastructure.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

Hopefully they will now realize that Russia is no friend.

[@deangregoric4735]

And who that friend might be?

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

@@deangregoric4735 Russia, the ones who used underwater mines to bomb the nord stream pipeline. It was a terrorist attack that Russia is responsible for. Some friend Russia turned out to be.

[@anonymousAJ]

Wouldn't Russia want an intact pipe they could turn on or off at will? Why would they need to destroy the pipe?

[@markfisher7962]

IF there was an element near the Kremlin that was willing to restore gas supply after a Ukraine withdrawal, this would block that option. An action related to the suprising affinity of officials for open windows; a Russian method of discussion.

[@idyllsend6481]

@@markfisher7962 Or they can simply refuse to deliver gas? :) They have that leverage.

[@thegreyghost5846]

@@idyllsend6481 not anymore. The option of refusing to sell gas only works if the infrastructure to actually deliver it is still in working order since the gas CAN be delivered, but someone is choosing not too.

[@ualrdyknowaitiz]

They want technology sanctions lifted to repair the line

[@landonwilliams4747]

Exactly, plus, the state owned enterprise Gazprom has 51% of shares.

[@videomaniac108]

Are there not blocking valves installed at certain intervals along the pipeline to isolate leaks that might occur?

[@cbgames3945]

Seismic leaks?

[@kasperchristensen8416]

Nord Stream 1 has worked flawlessly since 2011. Any breach on the pipeline is virtually impossible according to experts in the field. And then, while gas has become a central topic in the conflict between Russia and the West, it experiences not one but TWO breaches on the same day? I don't think you need a degree in probability theory to figure out that this is not a coincidence.

[@attilazk]

Anybody who has or is trying to blame it on natural cause or industrial fault of the pipeline is simply part of THE BIG LIE. Should be put to jail without question (and FREE ASSANGE).

[@isaacjiang1831]

Not two, three breaches on NordStream 2, one on 1

[@reyalcaraz6473]

biden already told us that he will going to stop the nord operation

[@rd264]

its obvious that the US gov ordered its special forces to take out the Nordstream pipelines, but of course the mainstream media etc is playing dumb and dumber

[@zeissiez]

Haha. Check my video. I don’t think anyone can refute that.

[@annamamo3645]

Of course it's sabotage. Even a kid in kindergarten could tell you that.

[@larsrons7937]

_"Of course it's sabotage. Even a kid in kindergarten could tell you that."_ Spot on! You know what? I discussed it at my neighbours this evening. And their kindergarden child said exactly that.

[@falconeaterf15]

You are not accounting for possible Godzilla attack.

[@kma3647]

Yes, but by which side? Lots of people have motives here. Putin's not the only one with a motive to conduct a false flag attack. In fact, Putin has the least incentive here. All he has to do is turn off the tap. He doesn't need to blow up the pipeline. He'd much rather be able to offer to turn the gas back on immediately if he needed to during a negotiation. The climate psychos running the US and EU however, have a very strong motive to blow it up. It's permanent damage to Russia. They'll not be permitted by the West to repair the pipeline because of sanctions. So, it's serves the climate agenda perfectly, but all gets blamed on someone other than the psychos pushing the braindead policies that WILL get people killed. Either way, we have no evidence to support either theory in lieu of the other. Anyone who does speculate that it "must be" either side is a political hack. We don't know yet.

[@markholtdorf56]

Who, why, when, what, where and how. Follow the money/ agenda will usually be a good start.

[@markholtdorf56]

@@falconeaterf15 Not Godzilla territory.

[@bagiraramah7560]

You don't have to be a genius to know who benefits after it's leader said he'd do it

[@Ivan.A.Trulyuski]

Just honest.. but they can’t bring themselves to admit that mean tweets were better than environmental terrorism against our allies.

[@theroldan8675]

Say it f....... Cowards

[@xman1533]

I fully agree with you

[@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261]

I love how everyone acts like the US totally did it (because Biden, a guy who's senile and barely aware of his surroundings, vaguely allured towards it). What makes you think Russia didn't do it simply because everyone would most likely suspect the US and that has the potential to sow some conflict and division in the West (and wouldn't that be f¥cking helpful right now??).

[@ZZ-qu7bq]

@@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 When the Russians have a valve to turn it on/off anytime they want, why would they need to blow it up? Get a brain

[@alphakwk]

Why DW not reporting latest update by Hersh update who sabotage Norh stream

[@marianshen]

Imagine if you didn't pay your water bill and they decided to quit sending you water. Do you think they would blow their pipe up or just turn the valve off? The analogy being that if Russia didn't want to send their gas to Europe then they simply wouldn't send any, they would close the valve. They have no reason to sabotage their own pipe.

[@travcollier]

Listen to the guy at the end of the video. Gazprom is bound by a contract. If they just refused to send gas, then they would be breaking that contract and lose access to credit and possibly even have assets seized. They also have insurance against disruptions they didn't cause.

[@marianshen]

@@travcollier You are joking ? The US and NATO have frozen all Russian overseas accounts and their foreign assets, Russia cannot use the SWIFT system now, do you think they will care about the contract? Russia stopped supplying gas to Europe twice this year, is it abiding by the contract?

[@marianshen]

@@travcollier Can you imagine who will be benefit from this incident? Only Americans. It's inhumane to make this incient just because US want to sell gas to Europe, can you imagine the damage to the natural ocean in that area? American is the real criminal.

[@Hahaha41241]

USA want to keep Germany servant. The protest in Germany calling for reopening the pipelines was too risky for USA, now the German people have nothing to attached their hope on. It's terrifying. Sorry for the people in Germany.

[@adriannn1180]

legit USA have gone too far, they think they can control the whole world, they think they are the first best country in the world... It's just too far, they have no right to do that, it's both Russia's, Germany's and Europe's project that their own FRIEND SABOTAGED like wtf...!

[@reikhard]

You might be right!!!

[@prernaagarwal3548]

USA doesn't care if Europe is freeze they just want to dent Russia, USA is still having cold war mindset

[@fabianbuserell8609]

stop bullshitting. that is just what the russians want us to believe. they most certainly will try to show the world prove, that the us did that

[@reikhard]

@歐陽梓銘 yes, it will bring now all europe together with USA against russia... but a lot of difficulties to poor european people that can't afford energy anymore.

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

President Biden already announced it on february 7th this year: “If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Reporter: “But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany’s control?” Biden: “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”

[@carnivore2023]

🤡 Nord Stream 2 was stopped long time ago. No need to sabotage it then. LOL 🤡

[@therealkarel3903]

Although this has been said, I hear only on the news that it must have been Russia. That's what has been thought to us in the west.

[@MrValeridze]

Haha, experts says "it's russia"))) russians as usially shooting themselvs

[@thatcanada]

Never hard to spot a maga - everything is a conspiracy.

[@wilsan2190]

No doubt its the US

[@88Ont]

Not only created gas shortage but a massive clear up as well. What a messed

[@georgefeehly2993]

Whoever did it, or was suspected of participating, must have a strategic oil reserve to use this coming winter. Oh, and the technology to find it. Hello, USA...

[@throwaway3873]

once is random, twice is a coincidence, three is a pattern..

[@craigboden9455]

I wonder if it's time....

[@BairMendoza]

@@kimoleto5178 my thoughts exactly.

[@albertngene7402]

3rd is Enemy Action- Ian Fleming

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

Fed interest hike? dollar strenthening? All in the same week? Now from which country have I seen that before.

[@jayk2458]

three is an intent...

[@geosync9742]

3 simultaneous explosions and leaks and sabotage is only "expected"?

[@gumby2241]

Never fear, DW's on the hunt for the russian saboteurs. /sarc

[@MT-eb2dx]

While we all know it's not a coincidence, you still should make sure and gather evidence. To be fair I can't tell who did it... But Russia is for sure no.1 of suspects.

[@vervetech9395]

The thing is that who ever did it knows that Russia will easily be blamed for this even if it doesn't make sense since Russia can always turn off the tap if starving EU was their goal. And Russia losing their leverage benefits a third-party involved not Russia or Germany.

[@MT-eb2dx]

@@vervetech9395 well, Russia did always try to find reasons for not delivering, the turbine for example, a dead pipeline is the ultimate excuse... so you cannot rule out Russia for that reason.

[@ytsm]

@MT, that's a ridiculous assertion, when Biden and his henchwomen in the State Dept said they are "confident" they can take Nordstream off the negotiating table.

[@billcannington3305]

So I take it the "penalty payment" is much worse than the cost of the pipelines, future gas revenue, and the ability to influence European energy security.

[@ChrisMacri376]

Yep...he was biased and wants to already blame Gazprom when it could have been UK/USA/Ukriane/France/Poland etc as a pretext to further trillions of dollars in prolonged hiked energy prices.

[@Maerra7]

You gotta keep the pipes pressurized to keep seawater out. Same thing as municipalities do with water pipes: the pressure in the water pipes is higher than the pressure of whatever medium they're run through. That's why there's pressure in the pipes.

[@vervetech9395]

The thing is that who ever did it knows that Russia will easily be blamed for this even if it doesn't make sense since Russia can always turn off the tap if starving EU was their goal. And Russia losing their leverage benefits a third-party involved not Russia or Germany.

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

Russia is actually the only one who has next to nothing to lose and a lot gained from this!

[@alanrichard4498]

Obviously, the US, you know that but don't want to ackonwledge it.🤫

[@KazeHorse]

@@gorillaguerillaDK what does it gain, genius?

[@genegene7028]

@@gorillaguerillaDK ok but can you say how? Otherwise your comment doesn’t contribute anything to the conversation

[@sabina.T]

@@gorillaguerillaDK what exactly are they gaining from this?

[@ohBAZZ]

The current US Administration stated multiple times on air that they promise to end these pipelines.

[@barneyrinsey1320]

To the question "who would benefit from this sabotage?" the only answer that is given is that it might be Russia with a false flag operation... I thought he was gonna give other possibilities but no. Journalism at its best!

[@friendoftellus5741]

The us would never do something thar would harm their allies so much !!!!

[@bjornnilsson2941]

@@friendoftellus5741 They've done it to themselves as a pre-text to war, so why not to their "allies"? I don't think it's a far fetched theory. I'd say it's a 50/50 between the US or Russia being behind it. There are no terrorists or pirates in the baltic, and Europe would not shoot themselves in the foot like this...

[@barneyrinsey1320]

@@friendoftellus5741 what is for sure is that Russia has leverage if the pipelines are functional, they get to use them if needed, otherwise not. Not having this option weakens their hand. On the other hand there are clear statements by Biden that he would end Nord Stream if needed. Obviously there is no proof but I don't think USA cares much about their allies. Europe is getting weaker by the minute and USA will want to milk it.

[@BM-zd3vs]

@@friendoftellus5741 US hacked German chancellor's phone in the past.

[@RafiqulIslam-jw1qh]

It’s USA and Norway according to one of the most trustworthy US journalist . Where is the news of Nord Stream now?

[@Jamesfish89]

What about the ocean and the marine life there??!!:-(

[@susanlangguth955]

Putin doesn't have to damage his own pipeline he can just turn it off

[@piaoyao4432]

usa🤔

[@Voyager.2]

So Gazprom doesn't have to give compensations for not honoring the contract?

[@anniea7489]

Exactly!!! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@myentertainment55]

@@Voyager.2 they could probably lost all infrastructure that would cost way more.

[@myentertainment55]

I agree with you Susan, Yes! Russians would be last who would blew up their own pipes. It was not only billions invested and they could lose it it also was the greatest leverage against EU and Russia just lost it. I think it was old Joe and his friends. He promised and he delivered.

[@columbine7]

Don't you think it's more problematic that there's no serious discussion even the slightest possibility that certain major power maybe behind this monstrosity on mainstream media?

[@erwinz5926]

isnt it, that they said 4 times, that there is a good chance, putin hat a night swim!?

[@arharshalpatwardhan1452]

America did this.. and i am not afraid to openly say that. America is the problem country of the world.. it finances and supplies fighter planes to the terrorist nation of Pakistan so that the middleast and Indian sub continent may always remsim unstable.

[@_sayan_roy_]

This is DW.

[@Gezira]

Definitely. We are so spineless and weak that we cannot even talk about it freely in the media, it's pitiful.

[@xivix6710]

Mainstream media is owned by very few big companies. The narrative can be easily controlled.

[@Ricardo-gv1zq]

There is no reason for Russia to do this. They already have the ability to simply turn it off.

[@alextovar4349]

IT IS SAD TO SEE THE INVERONMENTAL DAMAGE. WE ARE DOING TO THE WORLD. WE AS HUMANS ARE OUR ON WORST ENEMY

[@joshbell5387]

Russia didn't do it considering this was their main point of leverage over Europe, especially as winter looms.

[@f9658]

It’s America. That’s why you don’t trust America as a true ally… Now millions of Europe will freeze this winter. Thanks to America’s wonderful friendship.

[@Presbiter]

@@blindatadas7763 to rob themselves of their leverage without getting anything in return...yeah dude if you say so...

[@pelvis_assley]

@@blindatadas7763 destroyed their own property far away next to Denmark? Amidst NATO marine training in the area? With both lines already on standby for several months? Wow, congrats, you deserve to be a journalist.

[@russvet]

@@blindatadas7763 а какая теперь разница )))

[@carlkligerman1981]

It wouldn’t surprise me either way. But to act outraged after furnishing Ukraine, which is a long standing and complex issue, with advanced weaponry to fight a proxy war the question is why would Russia keep the taps on? Aiding what the Kremlin considers a Junta, sanctioning Russia economically and then acting outraged when they send a hearty FU back is disingenuous

[@janeladik1580]

Did not Biden himself threaten putting an end to these pipelines?

[@carnivore2023]

He stopped Streamline 2. He didn't stop Streamline 1 from delivering gas. It has all the time been Russia that have made all sorts of excuses for not delivering gas with Streamline 1.

[@so-sowhat514]

Putin did this to say look its not my fault the gas can't be turned back on.

[@janeladik1580]

@@so-sowhat514 I do prefer that to thinking Biden did it. But Putin lost a lot of money destroying it. As well as his bargaining chip. Suspicious it blew the same day the pipeline from Norway opened up.

[@RPSartre01]

Well, we can't trust the Germans anymore. Too much Stasi there

[@absalomdraconis]

​@@so-sowhat514 : Maybe, maybe not. I won't be convinced that this was intentional until there's some footage of the pipelines.

[@menalvagor]

The culprits can be found here: Latitude: 38.8693 Longitude: -77.0536.

[@gibadias1637]

Once again big energy corporations creating a catastrophe on purpose, to raise the prices of combustibles... Not to mention the water pollution and destruction of sealife... Appalling!

[@username7777771]

I feel asleep and woke up in a Tom Clancey novel and I don't like it anymore.

[@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477]

Which novel?

[@TheCynicsCynic]

@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 Haha I guess Red Storm Rising is the closest fit.

[@realnapster1522]

It’s the CIA and US Navy which carried out this attack. With extreme warmongers in power in US, you can tell that their plan is to cause a global war and chaos.

[@happyhsu140]

Plow through it man, be a man.

[@andrewweisel438]

I bet it’s gonna end similarly too 🇺🇸

[@MelmacAlienLifeForm]

"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” (c) Henry Kissinger

[@sambassil7825]

Well done DW it all makes sense after your interview with many experts from different countries.

[@Pyjamarama11]

DW is just spreading propoganda like any other MSM on either side

[@lightsout176]

They haven’t shut them down because if sea water gets inside the pipes the whole thing is ruined. There’s no repairing if that happens, so they have to keep the pumps on. Idk what’s going on tho.

[@Dogboy73]

Whoever is responsible this is completely insane. But these are insane times for sure. We need some sane heads in positions of power to work towards dialling this nonsense down a notch or two. We’re heading in a stupidly dangerous direction for sure. Worlds gone mad.

[@marklouieadame]

To make it easier for you to understand who is the main suspect making sure that nordstream will not work? It is supposed to use as a leverage for peace talk but it was sabotage to make sure war will go on and making sure NATO will commit to the war until the end.

[@mgronich948]

It was also insane to invade Iraq because of non-existant WMDs.

[@Ovajug]

The EU needs to sack Von der Crazy and her acolytes. In February Biden told the press that if Putin invaded the Americans would destroy Nord Stream II. Said and done.

[@LetoDK]

It's OBVIOUSLY Russia! Putin is throwing a temper tantrum and blowing up his own pipe because nobody else wants to touch them anymore, and he's doing it to create confusion and fear, and as a threat saying "look, I can blow up these pipes, so if you don't let me kill more innocent people, I will blow up the pipes that are actually in use (as opposed to these two connections).

[@conceptualmessiah01]

Come on man. We all need to kill each other. I've waited decades for this moment. You know the thing man. Annihilation.

[@machocomacho9312]

Brandon essentially said months ago, "I won't tell you how we will shut it down, but we have our ways."

[@doreenamlani5209]

Very true he warned he said it AMERICA USING EUROPE TO weaken russia and weaken europe industries''Europe you still dance to America tunes''you will fall

[@j7j7j7j7x]

He basiaclly admitted it. A very bac move by the US. Practically a direct attack on the EU, and Germany in particular.

[@ebae7355]

FJB

[@thatcanada]

Sure Ivan.

[@kellynestegard5208]

@@thatcanada Why do you have to attempt a put down? Truth hurts, eh?

[@wiseguysmith6519]

Didn't Biden claim he was going to end Nord Stream earlier this year?🤔

[@kolle128]

I don't think that Gasprom is benefiting from this. Once they are unable to restore the gas flow they loose the political pressure they can apply with the tap.

[@senturi1731]

EU BE LIKE -Who needs enemies when we have such friends!!!

[@TsarOfRuss]

they are so blind by hatred of Russia they dont see what USA is doing to them.. US is making tons of money from this expensive gas price, they cant let you buy gas from Russia anytime soon

[@optimvsprinceps1845]

@Philopublius Orientalis The US has more blood on its hands than Russia has since WW2 ended. Get off your high horse.

[@GamingBear_Q_E_D]

Yes ... The US Navy seals were in the Area doing anti mine 'drills' near the pipelines just before the explosions .. Just a coincidence .. nothing to see here .. OH yes and Biden as well as the Security chief confirmed that they would take out the nordstream pipeline. So Underwater US demolition experts in the area after the US said it would destroy the pipeline ... then BOOM Boom BOOOM! Explosions take out the pipeline soon after the US complete their exercise .. Oh yes .. somehow there was a lot less freight in the straight .. for some unknown reason at that time .. almost as though the Nato coastguards were told before it happened to stop the cargo freight for that period .. PRIOR to the explosions ... Just a coincidence .. nothing to see here .. it's all Putin destroying his pipelines to force Germany and Europe to take Gas from the pipeline that Biden is building across Syria .. Nothing to see here folks .. don't follow the money to the big man .. put the curtain back and let the big man and his lackeys fill their pockets.

[@havanasyndrome3024]

@Philopublius Orientalis what will we do? Laugh, just laugh as we watch "the most powerful military to everr exist" run in n fear, while soiling themselves and crying, from 20k Afganistani freedom fighters. Abandoning $90 billion worth of equipment... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 In the last 70 years the only country the US has actually submitted was ...... GRENADA, a country of 100k people. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 But keep acting tough, everyone is intimidated. 👍

[@Kenneth_James]

@@havanasyndrome3024 Aww, well bless your heart. Want us to come and "not win" in your country? 😏

[@WomanlyGood]

Why would Russia blow their own pipeline when they can and have before just turn the tap off?

[@vksasdgaming9472]

They don't want everybody to know they closed the valve. Plausible deniability.

[@thonguyenvu967]

@@vksasdgaming9472 you try to make sense when blaming russia

[@dutchman7623]

Russia doesn't own this pipeline! It is owned by a consortium of energy companies of which Gazprom is only one.

[@irose4066]

@@vksasdgaming9472 very good. I don’t know EU people are foolish and no basic knowledge. After seeing your comment, I feel like Europe distraction is inevitable.

[@abcddef2112]

Because its probably the usa.

[@ASmit-jn6rw]

This Benjamin Schmitt seems to assume automatically that only Russia can have blown up the Nordstream pipelines. And the second expert says that only Gazprom profits from the explosions. I'm not sure whether this a fair and balanced analysis.

[@reynardus1359]

Suspects - U.S., Britain, Poland, Ukraine.

[@josebranco5727]

The suggestion that the Russians did it is hilarious.

[@emmanuelameyaw9735]

Why can't they. They kill their own people.

[@uuekene]

Putin has been talking about need t o "protect" this pipeline very long time, that gives Russia good reason to bring his army and ships to thtis reason and start building up bigger war situation in Eastern Europe. It is beginnig of new phase of war in Europe, they love wars in small ice age.

[@TTM1895]

Not entirely ridiculous. Everyone heard Biden say, back in February, that the pipelines could be shut down. Now, yes the US could be behind it, but everyone in the world heard that statement. Russia could have done it as a false flag (Putin is a Madman for even talking about a small nuke to take out the people who were once part of Russia), the United States could have done it, or a third party could do it to ensure the escalation continued so we would be more concerned with Russia than Taiwan.. lots of possibilities out there.

[@samuellured2262]

ru bot alert

[@santaclaus0815]

@@samuellured2262 Damage to the pipelines is not in Russia's interest, but against it, as the result shows, namely that these pipelines remain unused for a long time, if not completely. It is not Russia that benefits from this, but the USA. Example scenario: Should the war in Ukraine end in a few weeks, the sanctions would (have to) be relaxed. Germany would possibly resume gas trading with Russia as winter approaches (or in the medium to long term) because domestic pressure to cut prices would increase on the issue of energy prices. almost all of Europe bears this opportunity cost damage because other parts of Europe were/could be supplied via these pipelines. anyone who rejoices in this news is suspect. and also to blame insofar as he vilely denies the sovereignty of the country Germany in the choice of its trading partnerships like the saboteur. it is an attack on the economic sovereignty of any country that wants to be served by these pipelines. the false flag operation theory by Russia is not thought through because Russia is actually harming itself. Well no matter. Russian gas can also be transported by ship.

[@thomastraynor9299]

Things are getting crazier by the day!

[@richardv9648]

Bidenistan to blame?

[@xman1533]

They will always blame Putin watch it

[@alf3071]

yea they're gonna make movies about this

[@n7warhound885]

Not really I’m surprised how calm it’s been frankly. Still waiting for some other set piece operations to happen. It’s all really exciting

[@joeyc1725]

Blame. O'biden. Thanks Obama

[@fajarliong]

How painful it is for some country leaders if they care about their people livelihood and welfare. The backstabbing that hard, yet leaders dare not utter a single word in fear of repercussions and being pushed aside. Do you still trust big brother? It is absolute ruthless on display to the world. Who doesn’t know?

[@nudaveritas8195]

It was the Swedes who sabotaged Nord Stream. Swedish naval ship were at the sites just before the pipes blew up.

[@I.A.I.Y]

I have watched some CIA interviews about previous events. I really don't exclude if they have hand on it. Clearly it doesn't make sense for Russia to do this by any logic

[@ivanlaplante]

There is one way it could make sense: to use plausible deniability to dodge penalties resulting from explicitely closing the tap. Most likely it was done by the US, but still, everybody says Russia wouldn't have any motive to do so but it isn't right. The fact it could be balmed on the US or other western actors could itself also be a motive.

[@timurmukhamed2547]

Exactly, it is USA no doubt.

[@Elisa-mg3rc]

rest assured that DW is gonna build its "logic"

[@mattc9875]

Turning EU away from the US would be a great adantage to the Russians now

[@wheelmanstan]

@@ivanlaplante yeah, Russia sewing division imo, let's see how they blame the U.S. on this

[@Simmelimme.]

It must have been a very well planned operation, whoever did it. Especially with so many countries guarding the area. Very special submarine and top engineering crew. Someone should make a movie about it.

[@willisjohnson5102]

Good one, lol!

[@alagoal6638]

European's American Daddy. Because only they are free in these countries you mentioned.

[@rathoref2336]

Or maybe all of them were involved barring germany 🇩🇪

[@JonROlsen]

@@rathoref2336 Poland for sure was in on it.

[@tesos2866]

The Russians could easily send a pipeline pig through pipe to that spot and detonate it

[@SL-sd3sg]

The Americans have said for years they wanted it out of action. They did it.

[@oshiforb7445]

Why don't they ignite this instead of allowing it to just escape into the atmosphere?

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Becouse its in the middle of an ocean.

[@skitpare2627]

Who said "If you invade, there will be no Nordstream..." 😏❤️

[@Thomas-xd4cx]

Babylon aka USA

[@angelamilton5134]

Me

[@johnmcentegart8537]

Joe Biden, said that he was going to put an End to it.

[@samuellured2262]

ru bot alert

[@mur6679]

@@samuellured2262 MSM bot Samuel detected

[@Un-known22]

Radek Sikorski from polish government, even says thank you USA on his Twitter, and you can see a photo of the pipeline leak.

[@havanasyndrome3024]

Churchill called Poland "hyena of Europe" 75 years ago and nothing has changed. If Germany invaded Poland right now, Is be rooting for Germany.

[@jbbeiser983]

@Philopublius Orientalis Germany invaded Poland, Russia sent Germany home

[@erwinz5926]

Thanks to the danish guy- that was a clear statement. The other downplayed. I d trust none of them.. but. Great show, guys. 👍

[@Yamamaass]

The dogs don't have nerves to bite back their owner, even being slapped in the faces 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@martinpalmer6203]

Apparently 25+mm thick steel pipe encased in 30+ CM of concrete, this is clearly not something easy to accidentally damage.

[@LuisJimenez-fj3ho]

What happened? No updates. Is this Covered up to avoid escalation? 🤔

[@lahwloh8765]

Everybody knows who did it who wants to shut those pipes forever but no politician in Europe dares to say it out loud

[@leiyao3893]

美国人？

[@tomnab]

Strange that you don’t say what ‘facilities’ were Danish and Polish PMs ‘visiting’. They were just opening new gas pipeline between Norway-Denmark-Poland.. strange to omit such a ‘detail’ in your report..

[@ellenfaulkner7616]

Are you blaming the Counties who were visiting? Do you know who did it

[@pretzelhunt]

You didnt hear, a Polish energy facility? Strange you choose to 'omit' such a detail in your paranoia...

[@Olegstuff21986]

Of coruse it's strange, they're supposed to be "neutral" and °quality° media :))).

[@frankyknuckles666]

nobody cares about the 3 nations, we all j ust care about american army was no 24 hours around the area and they are the only ones have an interest in having it destroyed, logic, simple logic

[@palimpalim5291]

@@ellenfaulkner7616 Sikorski thanked the USA ...

[@IIrandhandleII]

It was colonel mustard in the kitchen with the hammer.

[@gatekeeper7211]

Nah it was Professor Plum in the basement with the Wrench.

[@scottilewis3753]

Why did the interviewer interrupt him right before him making a grand point regarding the questioned he asked?

[@LondonSteveLee]

Why is the pipeline under pressure? because it's under the sea! You have to balance the pressure to reduce stress on the pipe infrastructure. Even if you turn off the gas you still have to pump something in there!

[@unclejj13er75]

Five days ago DW did a video asking-How will the West respond to Russia's escalation? This might be the answer.

[@gudnikristinn]

Why would Europe boycott Russia and also ruin the pipe? Europe can just dismantle the pipe if the want since its in Europe. They don't need to lie about it. All signs point towards Russia. The wests response to Putin threatening Nukes, will just be more military readiness.

[@aetheronautsomnid5261]

Good

[@unclejj13er75]

@marcum exe It may be that attacks on energy infrastructure are the next theatre of this evolving contest.

[@lc5176]

It was me. I sabotaged the pipeline.

[@HJJ135]

why did you do that 🤨?

[@spacegerrit9499]

Lies, it was me! In the libary with a lead pipe!

[@TheTomrader]

Alright.. But don't do it again.

[@Steellmor]

It was me! Mario!

[@spacegerrit9499]

Anybody know the location of Nordstream 3? Asking for a friend.

[@drmorcoch9338]

studying the blast is far less important than monitoring vessels that are near the area. who are these incompetent people you are interviewing

[@nharwood111]

are we trying to say that with all the military assets in the area watching everything that moves nobody noticed a boat in the area.

[@greenl7661]

That particular spot isn't really watched by anyone, but Russian reconnaissance plane was spotted in the area

[@greenl7661]

It's also not a boat, but submarine, which is not easy to detect

[@eansmith4925]

Equipment called a pig can be sent down the line. It is used for inspection and maintenance. Can also be used to haul explosives

[@siamcharm7904]

@@eansmith4925 had to be sub. usa does not have pig access. big money win for usa.

[@bozo5632]

There was a US fleet nearby conducting some kind of minesweeping exercise...

[@JediMasterJazz]

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. - Ian Fleming

[@leovolin7525]

Who's the enemy? Did Ian mention? Should I throw Bible away and start read his quotes?

[@anniea7489]

There are NO coincidences in life. 🤷‍♀️

[@friendoftellus5741]

This sabotage is nothing less than an act of war against Germany !!!! And we know who was behind it !!!!

[@corneliussulla9963]

Or Red/Green action. The current German government itself.

[@alex5127]

@@leovolin7525 enemy？ alliance？😂

[@bushelfoot]

How long will it take to repair that is the question that needs a answer!!

[@williamlaws9338]

Why arnt they turning it off ?

[@janokotek]

I was hoping DW would be impartial. No mention of the possibility that Ukraine or the US are behind it. The gas pipeline through Ukraine is still operational and gas can be sent through it to Eastern Europe. The US supplies Europe with expensive LNG gas, now it may be even more expensive. It's a shame that I have to go to other places for objective information. (I'm not for Russia, but all options should be mentioned, not just the one that suits us).

[@michaelconroy9975]

Here is one option of content, scripted géñöćīďé. They already admit they want to lower the world's population by a vast amount..............good luck friend..........

[@so-sowhat514]

What BS, Putin did this as he was never going to turn the gas back on and can now say sorry I can't the lines are broken.

[@stardust5548]

Even Russia not blaming anyone rn

[@absalomdraconis]

The Ukraine? The Ukraine doesn't have any boats that're fit for this purpose. The US, Russia, and even Germany (apparently a pipeline between Norway and Poland just opened) I can see. Any oil and/or gas exporting country with at least one functional (and unaccounted for) submarine I can see (probably not Iran, because of sanctions- you need a modified cargo ship to hide the submarine underneath, but that's useless if the cargo ship doesn't have plausible deniability), but Ukraine doesn't have any of these, so the limit of their ability is to donate an honorary crewman to whatever country _might_ have done this.

[@ryrez4478]

with gas prices so high, and biden suffering from it, why blow up nordstream and even further increase those prices right before a midterm election that democrats desperately need to win? sounds farfetched to me.

[@Lyserus]

US: We must defeat Russia at all cost!!! EU: Yes all cost!!! US: You are the cost!

[@guestonearth1274]

I am glad to see this story is getting a lot of coverage outoff western. In the western media there is total news blackout. This tells me the story is probably true.

[@harmgregory4560]

@'guest' Not so.

[@rodgangloff8540]

So the pipes where cut at a point where they can't be used to deliver other supply countries. It's not so difficult people.

[@chandlerstein2122]

The whole world thinks who it can be but you defined that it is Russia by default. Bravo👏👏

[@joeschembrie9450]

KZbin shills: "Who is at fault? It (C)ertainly (I)sn't (A)merica!"

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

@@joeschembrie9450 Perhaps a (K)remlin (G)as (B)ot was used? Oh, wait I know... it was an (U)nderwater (K)able (R)obot (A)utonomously (R)unning (I)ncendiary (N)on-nuclear (E)xplosives Or... (P)erhaps (O)verwater (L)atent (A)utomatic (N)aval (D)epth charges? This is fun. Can we do another?

[@briarboy11]

learn english, troll

[@ajay9429]

United snakes of America

[@attilazk]

@@chrisviking7807 It is well known, that CIA have sent a warning to the German gov. + as you can hear from the Swedish university staff, they were also informed in advance by the Swedish military. So how would you "counter-claim", still blaming Russia? You are missing basic logical thinking, that's all.

[@canada9436]

We know that all the recent protests in Germany demanded for reopening the Nord Stream 2. What happens if The pipeline is completely not workable? That’s one thought. There is a chance that German Government can’t sustain the pressure of economic and political crisis and determine to get Russian gas again. What if the pipelines are gone? Who will benefit from this situation?

[@Richard-et3cl]

USA will benefit from that

[@JanWasp]

One of the pipelines is still intact, so Russia could start supplying again, and I think that will happen after this crisis is over.

[@24haikus]

if the metal shards face outward it was blown up from the inside with a "pig" caring an explosive device. However the energy expert stated that Gazprom could have sent the pig there for reasons of continuing to stop deliveries without having to pay penalties. The "pig" could also have travelled from the other direction also. It would have had much less far to travel from the German side than from the Russian side. If the metal is bent inwards to the pipe then the explosive charge would have been attached on the outside. This could have been any of a number of states for various reasons. The US comes to mind as having the motive, the means and evidence of presence with recent patrols of a ship with underwater drones it was "testing". Forensic tests necessary when the gas stops leaking out.

[@thekaiser4333]

As we have seen from the unprofessional, chaotic and underequipped military operation in Ukraine, Russia has obviously not the capabilities to conduct such a sophisticated high tech deep sea attack. Now we should look at who might actually have such capabilities.

[@jlm4836]

The group that wants the entire worlds carbon footprint lowered immediately did this? 😏

[@Abhishek-zb3dp]

World police 🚨🚨

[@sebastiangeorge7714]

Thereby drastically increasing the footprint?

[@jackwilson5542]

These degenerates only want to limit your "carbon footprint". (Aka. to self-enslave yourselves by make believe you are changing something) Global neo-Marxist world order (universal basic poverty, with tiny above the law ultimate power elite) is their end goal.

[@araara4746]

To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.. -- Henry Kissinger

[@martinlatvian5538]

You meant to be a friend of Putler?

[@araara4746]

@@martinlatvian5538 go ask Kissinger.

[@martinlatvian5538]

@@araara4746 You should ask Molotov Ribbentrop

[@araara4746]

@@martinlatvian5538 Looks like you don't like what I wrote. But maybe you don't know (perhaps because Latvia is too poor, so you don't have money to go to school), so let me tell you that Henry Kissinger is a US diplomat. Henry Kissinger himself said "to be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal." I'm just quoting it. If you don't like his statement, please protest to him, not to me. Winter is here, let's hope Latvia (the poorest country in Europe) doesn't freeze.

[@raphaelz6030]

One thing for sure, this winter is gonna be cold

[@chengavitch10]

It’s ironic that the victim of the sabotage dare to name the most obvious suspect. Freedom of expression? Not quite.

[@lewisjohnson8297]

This was one of the largest objections to the arrangement in the first place. The fact that a former german chancellor is on the board of the largest Russian gas company, doesn't make it any less of a potential weapon.

[@Ont785]

Is it a friend of Hunter Biden’s?

[@Mob135]

The American Gov are terrorists Vic Nuland and Brandon said this would happen a few times recently.

[@jbbeiser983]

You can easily protect yourself against such a weapon

[@mik3ymomo]

Trump tried to warn them but in their arrogance they laughed at him. Let Ursula make it right; she told Europe there was no threat to the energy security of Europe and dismissed Trumps warnings.

[@kailaniandi]

Great excuse to raise prices lol

[@odysliu9102]

"No deal is allowed between Europe and Russia." US said

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

How right they were.

[@prabuddhaghosh7022]

"No soup for you"

[@mariamaria2751]

I hate hearing the US said. No Joe said . No one likes that dude in America

[@prabuddhaghosh7022]

@@mariamaria2751 America is a democracy. Americans dont get to play the card -" My govt did it" Americans elected Biden so every thing he does Americans share the blame.

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

@@mariamaria2751 I think he’s fantastic, would you rather a murderous dictator who also just happens to be an Olympic level loser

[@jpcastelli4869]

Extraordinary how neither of these gentlemen consider, when asking who might benefit from this, the US. Really? Can´t think of any reason at all the US might benefit? Some top notch journalism here.

[@Peacepromoter809]

Whoever blew the pipes, they set a bad precedence . Europe's energy supply now has confirmed uncertain Future

[@TheWeedOperation]

Europe just remember the Henry Kissinger quote, "To be an enemy of America is dangerous, to be a friend is lethal"

[@2Phast4Rocket]

keep laughing

[@andy-mb3nn]

What I find most disturbing is how tense they clearly feel about discussing this subject in public. Here in the UK and probably most other western countries, our leaders and the decisions are scrutinized ad nauseum. Our politicians barely ever have a good word said about them let alone their polices. This is what freedom looks like. If you are not allowed to criticise your leaders, or feel uncomfortable doing so, that's a huge red flag for an unhealthy regime. One that will likely not end well

[@lynth]

They are tense because it's obvious the Americans did it but Europe's entire establishment has been fully subverted by the US.

[@jackburgess274]

>>"Here in the UK and probably most other western countries, our leaders and the decisions are scrutinized ad nauseum" Quite right. That they are able to withstand the deluge of criticism that the msm is directing at their Ukraine/Russia policy is a testament to their moral fibre.

[@kmadge9820]

It says to me they know it was the US and are frightened of the implications.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

We have unprecedented mass Censorship in legacy/social media here in Canada and down in the USA as well---and one rule of thumb i learned years ago is "Never Trust a Censor" - our governments and our elites have an agenda these past few years that is not the peoples' agenda or in our interests. Klaus Schwab has them all enchanted with his fascist Great Reset or so it seems Yes it is impossible to not have a great sense of trepidation about the Future. On so many levels it just looks dark and darker. I fear we are at the end of an Era that we are going to miss very much.

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102]

There are definitely people you cannot criticise. Especially in the US.

[@dnaseb9214]

Its 100% America who did it.

[@evanmiller2570]

This was the USA/UK

[@davemitchell6281]

Where the blasts took place there should be some type of material left from what caused this.

[@neiltitmus9744]

There will be doubt over who find it though everyone will be finding bits of old depth charges

[@piatan1632]

It could be very difficult to look for small fragments on the seafloor, I wont be surprised if they find nothing

[@ModMINI]

There will be exhaust gases from Russian ships heading back to Kaliningrad.

[@jaybelle1909]

@@ModMINI right because rus likes to destroy its own property just like ukr bombing a nuclear power plant is rus fault..

[@bradiewez_2367]

@@piatan1632 not hard at all send a ship out drop an ROV youd be suprised how good the footage is.

[@iam_joshua_bcxvii]

I doubt Russia would sabotage that, I mean, they could just literally turn off the faucet on their end to stop the gas flow, This should have been caused by other foreign nations, the US at best I would assume. They were the primary ones critical of this pipelines anyway.

[@awalk5177]

USA (Biden and Victoria Newland) said that USA would remove Nord Stream 2. It was part of their planning. USA want to be sole supplier of gas to EU.

[@modernsolutions6631]

They literally did turn of the faucets on those lines before but their reason to do so without violating the contract was probably false. So their long term contract with Germany was violated. An possible interpretation: They won't get such a good contract again after the war so they cause extra chaos and damage to the west. A scorched earth policy.

[@romipet]

how dare you

[@forg6980]

No way its russia. Russia can easily closed gas from industrie. So there is no reason to sabotage the pipeline. But the fact USA biden himself said they will destroy that pipeline.

[@mshin291]

Russia may or may not be behind this - we need furthur information to even start guessing. But IF Russia did it (emphasis on IF), there are some motivations here as well. Sure Russia can close the pipes, but that move means that Russia is officially cutting off Europe from energy, thus directly responsible for the crisis. This in turn means that pro-Russian factions in EU will suffer some hits on their popularity. If an "accident" happens Russia is not responsible for it, and the pro-Russian factions in EU will not suffer as much.

[@ronsimpson8666]

Potential!?! 1min after blast... Truss: "It's done" I'm pretty positive that there are some JUICY conversations out there to those who had the right iphone credentials... Now if leadership in UK had any credentials....

[@valenrn8657]

Not all Nordstream pipelines were blown up. Both NS1 and NS2 actually consist of 2 pipelines. After the explosions, one of the NS2 pipes remained functional - technically speaking, because it didn't get approval from Germany. As for Russia's motive to destroy the pipeline: Russia stopped supplying gas via NS due to political reasons (Putin's decision). And Russia was sued for this breach of contracts. Blowing up NordStream can be a way to avoid paying huge fines.

[@thecelt4807]

who ever gave the order for this should spend the rest of their miserable life in jail regardless of who they think they are

[@user-zd1wz7mn5s]

How? CIA is untouchable.

[@HashiramaSenyu]

16 minutes of Germany trying to prove that this was not done by them and somehow russia is responsible for this...

[@yftan4353]

It's sad for Europeans, they know who did this but don't have balls to say it.

[@Yazan26579]

@@yftan4353 who do you mean? USA?

[@gumby2241]

@@yftan4353 well it's been said that if the germans aren't at your feet they are at your throat.

[@Yazan26579]

B!den did say that he will get rid of the pipes if 🇷🇺 will inv@de 🇺🇦 . 🤷‍♂️

[@so-sowhat514]

Putin did this as he never intended to turn the gas back on and now can say sorry I can't the lines are broken, wake up.