Why you (probably) shouldn't buy a kiln

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Pottery to the People

Pottery to the People

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Please don't buy a kiln before considering these things! I am seeing lots of people get excited and rush into buying a kiln, and it's an exciting purchase for sure! But I want to warn you about a few things you definitely need to consider before buying your first kiln.
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0:00 - what I'll cover in this video
0:30 - how much does it cost?
1:45 - electrical wiring
2:25 - what if you rent?
4:45 - my insurance recommendations
5:55 - ventilation
8:10 - can you commit?
10:20 - alternative to buying a kiln #1
12:00 - alternative to buying a kiln #2
13:20 - alternative to buying a kiln #3

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@peggydrawspictures
@peggydrawspictures Ай бұрын
I got very tired of driving my pieces to the studio an hour away, and then waiting weeks for them to be fired, so I started saving $50/wk until I had enough for my own kiln install last summer. it takes me a while to make enough pieces to run a bisque firing, but I'm having a lot of fun. no regrets. I think if I had done financing or paid through a credit card, I'd feel pressure to make and sell and pay it off/justify the purchase, but since I slowly saved up and thought about it for a few years before I finally bought it, I feel more comfortable slowly making at my own pace.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
wow, thats great work! And definite a well-considered purchase 🙌
@TooneyPearce
@TooneyPearce 13 күн бұрын
I live in the country. I used a studio 45 minutes away. Had to wait over 8 weeks for anything taller than a mug to fire and broke pieces home to studio. Heard about an awesome man who finds the kiln you want in your budget, buys, installs inc wiring and does repairs. Even though I am 71, still working, and won't retire for 3 more years, I now can start building my skills, am selling at craft fairs and galleries. Best decision I could have made. Keeping me young
@Barthoization
@Barthoization Ай бұрын
I bought a broken kiln ( broken bricks, broken elements, no control unit ), I repaired it, made my own ( bigger ) elements ( from 2400W to 6000W ), bought a control unit. Now I have a 60L kiln that cost me 500€ total.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
woww!! respect 👏👏👏
@elivean
@elivean Ай бұрын
That is great! I would have loved to do that (found a lot of broken kilns for sale), unfortunately I don't have the knowledge nor the courage to try that haha. Good for you!
@RedQueensJubileeClub
@RedQueensJubileeClub Ай бұрын
I admire you for taking on the task of building a kiln. I just bought a used kiln. It’s in beautiful condition; everything is good, but it needed a new cord. That was fine since I’ve had to replace one on a kiln I previously owned. This gave me the option of replacing it with the plug that allowed me to share the use of an existing outlet until I can get power installed specifically for the kiln.
@Cre8tiveLifeJournal
@Cre8tiveLifeJournal Ай бұрын
My husband built me a primitive kiln last year and we've fired it three times. But this is TOO ironic, I was given two kilns for free to just come pick them up yesterday. A small one and a huge one. The big one needs an element and the small one is fine. I'll have to learn how to use them properly. Thankfully we have an enormous woodshop to put them in away from the house and my husband is also an electrician.
@thunderhen3230
@thunderhen3230 Ай бұрын
Lol! My mom and I bought a wheel, and my partner wants to be supportive so he offered to buy a kiln but we hadn't even had our first pots from our home wheel fired at the community studio! Your video helped me feel much better about telling him no, that we're not ready for a kiln yet!
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
That is awesome! Maybe someday but its definitely a big decision 😄
@laurenharrison1959
@laurenharrison1959 Ай бұрын
As someone who literally just bought my kiln today is was worried for a second, but I know this is the best time as I move from a hobby to an artist. I have been doing ceramic for 2+years and I just want to do more. Thank you for your advice and I will be watching the rest of your videos when my kiln arrives
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Congratulations!! You totally sound ready for it 🙌🙌 Feel welcome to reach out if you have any specific questions :)
@vkumra
@vkumra Ай бұрын
hahaha bought mine yesterday and am doing my test fire this very moment while watching this video lol.
@theabsolutetruth2024
@theabsolutetruth2024 Ай бұрын
Good luck!
@lamardon9723
@lamardon9723 Ай бұрын
I made my own gas fired kiln which I only use outside. It's implied that both the size and number of pieces are limited. So my long haul isn't all that long, being in my 70s. And it keeps me busy and alert as a retired manufacturer. You stop, you die. True to my past performance, I try to add useful information based on my experience. And who knows, I may make a dime every now and again. I'm not overly vested in the craft. Thanks again! ❤
@soldomi
@soldomi Ай бұрын
I've been doing ceramics for 10 years now, and I still don't have a kiln,😂😅 not only because of the price and my shared studio space with non-artist friends but also because a ceramics school is approximately 10 minutes walking from the studio, and the boss is super sweet and rents me the kiln when I need it. Thank you for the video!
@vkumra
@vkumra Ай бұрын
Community is so important in the creative world. Totally agree! I bought a small kiln (Skutt 714) for home as I don't like to wait in line at the studio when I want to make a gifts or things, but for the large pieces, and creating in general, there is SO MUCH benefit to joining community spaces. Great video!
@valecbcb
@valecbcb Ай бұрын
I'm from Uruguay and pottery supplies are in general very expensive, so buying a kiln for me wasn't an option because of the price but also because for me, pottery it's a hobbie... So, I made my own gas kiln with an oil drum and ceramic fiber. They are usually used for raku but I use it as a regular kiln and works just fine. And the whole process of making it was really fun and educational! I learned a lot :)
@pablotrobo
@pablotrobo 15 күн бұрын
Que cosa!.. yo tambien de Uruguay y pensando como hacer un kiln primtivo, tipo hobby para algunas cosas chicas. Usas electricidad o hay manera de usar otra fuente de energia?
@gomito5000
@gomito5000 11 күн бұрын
​@@pablotrobose puede hacer con gas, hay un tutorial en youtube que suena bastante parecido a lo que está contando te lo mando aquí cuando me despierte mañana
@gwenblake3875
@gwenblake3875 Ай бұрын
This is so helpful! A kiln of my own I’d definitely a bucket list item, but I have to say the studio where I take lessons and get studio time is wonderful! Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom!
@jennyp7084
@jennyp7084 Ай бұрын
Always so informative Mia. Thank you. Yep I’m a community studio potter for all those reasons! Very fortunate.
@joseph96345
@joseph96345 Ай бұрын
I recently got a kiln from someone who is getting a bit older and does do pottery anymore. I feel pretty lucky that I was able to get one at no cost to me. Very grateful! I already had the circuit in the garage for it!
@JLSwanson
@JLSwanson Ай бұрын
I got a little 110 kiln a couple years before I retired as a ceramics teacher and a wheel I already had a kick wheel so I guess I was already set up Been working with clay since 1976 😜
@sgriffith3912
@sgriffith3912 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the information and the kiln share! I have found two places in my area.
@Nathalie-jq5fu
@Nathalie-jq5fu Ай бұрын
Thank you, Mia, for this really helpful summary of things to be considered! And hey, I'm in the video twice ;-)) What an honor. I miss you and your studio here in Berlin! And Peanuts of course ;)
@lozinja
@lozinja 14 күн бұрын
Thank you, your videos are so helpful.
@Eddie-wn8tu
@Eddie-wn8tu 15 күн бұрын
Ty. Subscribed. You are so fun to watch, like hanging out with my best buddy from college or something. You try stuff and hang it out there for us.
@oliverg6864
@oliverg6864 25 күн бұрын
Option #4, fire your pieces in a campfire or other primitive kiln. I use wild clay and make earthenware pieces. It's fun and low cost.
@aimilia.l
@aimilia.l 25 күн бұрын
Thank you, again, for sharing all those informations ❤ ❤
@theabsolutetruth2024
@theabsolutetruth2024 Ай бұрын
Was stationed in Illesheim from 87-89. Actually married a German gal, and I must say, I was rather impressed when you busted out that German! Sounded pretty good, there!....lol! You have a great channel. Wishing you much success!
@ThoughtFission
@ThoughtFission Ай бұрын
Such a useful video, thgank you. You answered some questions I've had a for a long time. Moved to France and haven't been sure if I should take a leap with regard to buying a kiln.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! ❤️
@herculade
@herculade Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I bought a kiln a few months ago and I love it so much, I personally don't regret it at all!
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
That is great to hear! Congrats on your kiln! ❤️
@T0aster
@T0aster Ай бұрын
This video came out during the worst week yet with my kiln. I do kiln share (potters rent my kiln)- but am still at 0 income in a year just due to the cost of replacement and maintenance!
@majesticmythicalsart7563
@majesticmythicalsart7563 Ай бұрын
I bought my kiln last summer , and it took me 4 months to find an electrician to actually come and run a special outlet for my kiln in my studio and I have a small kiln : ( electrical work is in high demand in my area with tons of building) also the cost of installing the electrical was more than the kiln itself. I love my kiln though so no regrets
@Owleyearts
@Owleyearts Ай бұрын
I’ve been teaching myself slip casting for over a year, trying to gain enough skill and make enough pieces to start selling at craft fairs. I’m lucky to have a pottery supply store in my area that offers kiln firings. I don’t know how to run a kiln, and am not ready to buy my own, so I’m glad I can pay the experts to fire my pieces for me!
@allenflint27
@allenflint27 17 күн бұрын
several years ago when i had just started (and i mean JUST started) doing ceramics on my own, i was lucky enough to come across a used kiln for sale for only $500. i have no idea how old it is, the electric control panel is at least 25 years old and is much newer than the kiln itself. it was used in a school before switching to personal use, it's cracked everywhere and half falling apart and the outer metal parts rusted through and had to be replaced, the control panel's wire had been CUT OFF at the plug by the people who took it in, and i only have space to run it outdoors, and my shelves are all cracked or broken. and despite it being in comedically bad shape, i think it's pretty great and i have very few issues as a beginner/someone who doesn't use it much. i did not learn how to use a kiln until after i got it, too, and i'm still learning things... i think beat up kilns on their last legs like this are a good option for beginners and hobbyists!! you just have to keep an eye out until you see one cheap enough, if you really think you want a kiln. one will come along!
@misterscottintheway
@misterscottintheway Ай бұрын
This was really helpful thanks
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Glad to hear!
@felinetherapy4782
@felinetherapy4782 Ай бұрын
I've seen some people make their own air dry clay - looks awesome! Like the idea of community studios. Fun!
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
I’ve seen recipes online for that! Looks totally doable!
@makestuffwithjohn
@makestuffwithjohn Ай бұрын
Skutt's KM818 single phase will run off almost anyone's existing 220v household circuit, and it's pretty roomy. 18" x 18" interior dimensions. Alternatively, Olympic makes a cone 10 Doll E/Test kiln that will run off a standard 120v outlet (dedicated circuit with 20 amp breaker). It's not huge, but probably big enough for most hobby potters.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
nice! That sounds about the size of mine.
@jugeebean
@jugeebean Ай бұрын
I bought a kiln from offer up. She said she bought it from her aunt but she never got into pottery and that her aunt used ut quite a bit. I didnt know anything about kilns used or new. This one is old school with the cone activated auto shut off. I lucked out and had an outlet in the shop that was previously a wood shop. Since purchasing it, I have concluded that this kiln could not have been used. Prior to the lady recklessly loading it into my truck, the bricks were unbroken and pristine. The handful of times i have used have left a mark for sure. This leads me to the most shocking part of my purchase....i only paid $300. Less than i can find a heavily used old kiln. Happy dance.
@raysville7256
@raysville7256 Ай бұрын
If you are a part-time hobbyist it probably doesn't make sense. A wheel and a kiln are necessary if you want to get serious about the craft simply because having 24/7 access to them will improve your work exponentially.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
That is true!
@alphonsinelepitre1992
@alphonsinelepitre1992 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@javdestiny
@javdestiny Ай бұрын
I took classes at our community pottery center for two years. I started making things as gifts for my family. Traveling to visit in July i spent 6 months making things. Down to the glaze firing of the last platter i asked what the odds were of it getting fired before our trip. I was told very good, and in fact it was done a full week before i left. But when i came back there was a new sign about not expecting things to get fired in time to be gifts. That really upset me. At that point my wonderful husband bought me a kiln, which is installed in the garage. Sometimes i fire twice a week. Other times (when it's hot out) once every couple of months. I certainly won't make money, but i love the flexibility, and will continue to make gifts. Maybe I'll even try selling something.😊
@melissagallinetti9521
@melissagallinetti9521 Ай бұрын
I spent nearly five thousand dollars to get my electrical upgraded to handle my kiln. It was certainly a major investment. I have a huge old kiln sitter that I bought used from a school and it is being converted to be an outside gas kiln. I am very fortunate my family owns our land and we don’t have restrictions because it’s Appalachia.
@clarence-theregularcat7708
@clarence-theregularcat7708 Ай бұрын
So many reasons to buy a kiln though. Studios might underfire your clay to save cost and your work suffers. It also limits the your options with glazes and makes you dependend whatever your studio may fire too. Your work might also be less consistent because in a community kiln someone may fire with chrome or copper which become volatile and ruin your white glazes and or make them turn pink or green. Also pottery is hot shit and if you ever decide to sell your kiln, you probably can do that fairly easily. Firing at low temps in a community kiln will limit your options with glazes and be cost intense when making your own (everythings needs a pricy boron source). I own a rohde te-s and formulate my own glazes with rather particulare firing schedules up to cone 11 (which in an amazing rohde is just 1284 with a short hold.) and in my case owning is best. Love my kiln.
@chuckfaber7521
@chuckfaber7521 Ай бұрын
I’m looking into getting a kiln, however the timeline is likely a year or two out. I’m definitely just a hobbyist and have enjoyed firing with my local studio but there are certain aspects of this hobby that I just need my own kiln for, primarily, glaze testing. When you don’t have control of your own kiln you can’t really adjust things like firing schedule, experiment with crystallization, or use glazes that could be at risk for damaging other work or could cause fumes that may be harmful to breathe in a shared space. I considered a tester kiln, but people still ask for nearly $1k or more for these so, I decided to just get a full kiln. However, I lack space, and the correct electrical setup. The first issue is being resolved now. We’re getting our deck redone, and we are putting in an accessible space underneath which will serve as my semi-outdoor firing space. The second will need to be done eventually. I will need to hire a professional electrician to put in a 240V outlet plus other updates we’d like.
@ethanpschwartz
@ethanpschwartz Ай бұрын
As a photographer, I know how expensive a hobby can get! But if you start with the right foundation and aren't afraid to outsource the things outside of your scope at the moment, it can be extremely cheap and rewarding. Pottery studio, photography studio, same thing 😂
@aliciaklemmt-vk9sf
@aliciaklemmt-vk9sf Ай бұрын
I definitely got over eager and bought a second hand kiln real cheap without realizing the issues id face with electrical and ins and all that. It's still sitting a year later (not hooked up) in my garage.
@crunchybeen4263
@crunchybeen4263 25 күн бұрын
Our insurance said as long as it was just hobby potting, it was fine. So glad we have a kiln. Just need to get the kiln sitter repaired and probably need to replace the elements soon, but I have to figure out what kind. Old kiln and no longer supported by any seller that I know of.
@Lannie1948
@Lannie1948 Ай бұрын
Another fantastic video! Yippee, I found a kiln to rent locally!!!
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Nice!! 🙌🙌
@phoenixastra4429
@phoenixastra4429 5 күн бұрын
My area does not have a kiln anywhere. I'm disabled and can't afford one, I live on cape cod ma. There's nowhere here. The closest one is hours and hours away, and I'm disabled and can't drive. It's just such a bummer I had no idea making ceramic goods or plates and comes was so...inaccessible to people. It's just super disheartening, feels like you gotta be rich to own one, or happen to live somewhere near one. i even looked at rent a kiln from random other people, hours and hours away. Man...sucks so bad. I found out about microwave ones, that can only do teeny tiny things. Such a bummer!
@rtist9281
@rtist9281 28 күн бұрын
This was interesting, and i watched one of the the videos in the link (about bisque firing) which was very informative. 👍 I noticed that you work with digital kiln. Do you have information about working with older manual style electric kilns - the kind with a kiln setter, two or three dials, and a timer?
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople 28 күн бұрын
Sorry I dont! I’ve never worked with such old kilns 🥲
@Nospheratorum
@Nospheratorum Ай бұрын
If you're someone that's good with tools and have basic physics / electricity knowledge, there's a lot of resources on the internet and youtube that help you build your own kiln for a fraction of the price of a commercial one. I basically built a 60L, 3.2kw kiln based on your Rohde ecotop with all the same features and the materials cost around €600. I fired it twice to 1050C so far, and it works great. Doing 1220C next week, fingers crossed.
@sabineperko4164
@sabineperko4164 25 күн бұрын
Great, exact what I needed intending to buy a kiln. I tried to join a potter comunity to get my stuff burned, but it did not really work, especially burning glasur.
@elivean
@elivean Ай бұрын
I bought my 2nd hand kiln from a ceramist who was moving back to her home country and she didn't want to carry the kiln with her back to Austria. But eh, that worked great for me and now I have a in-mint-condition 20 year old front loading Nabertherm Kiln with like 10 shelves and a million props for 2000eur. I am lucky enough that where I'm renting I have an extra room on a separate building meant as a "Hobby Raum", where I installed the three-phase electric system needed. Now, that + the counter cost me 800eur (that one actually hurt me more than the price for the kiln, haha). Great advices and I think this is gonna be a very useful video to many people!
@granmabern5283
@granmabern5283 24 күн бұрын
Nice. Thanks.
@robot7759
@robot7759 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, and this is why I stick to air-dry clay. Thanks.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Air dry clay is pretty awesome
@eleonor4h
@eleonor4h 21 күн бұрын
As a beginner I like to make small vases and stuff, and I saw people having mini kilns for in the micrawave. Is that anything good since you didn´t talk about it?
@travismaxwell9805
@travismaxwell9805 14 күн бұрын
By far, the best thing to do if you have time is take a class at a community college. At least in my area, the teachers are usually studio potters with MFA’s making about 5000 pots a year. You will not get better training and firing than that. Also, if you wood fire with a professional, make sure your pots are dry and small. I dry mine in an oven. If you are not asked to help fire, don’t take it personally. I learned working a wood pile and watching before I started working the kiln. Also, be quiet. I get pots with wood ash and salt glaze fired to cone 12. I have an electric and gas kiln, but rarely use them. Lastly, if you live in a rural area, check out the rocket kiln. It works like a rocket stove, but for pots. Scrap wood, scrap electric kilns. It is pretty much 100% oxidation, so you get similar results as an electric firing. With that said, I bought a kiln first thing and started studying glazes while my throwing improved. Lastly, get someone handy to roll your kiln coils. Much cheaper and not very complicated.
@kaleidoskopium4512
@kaleidoskopium4512 14 күн бұрын
What pipe are you using for to transfer the hot air of the kiln outside?
@calieandco
@calieandco Ай бұрын
In Portland at least, it seems rare to find a ceramic studio that will fire your work if you don't have a membership or are taking a class with them. I'm so lucky to have found one because I otherwise wouldn't be able to make ceramics and have the small business I have now. 💛
@chuckfaber7521
@chuckfaber7521 Ай бұрын
I've done outside firings with Morning Ceramics and Georgies. There are some other new studios which do outside firings too but I haven't fired with them. We also have quite a few kiln shares in our city. Portland has a pretty large ceramic community actually. Skutt even has their main offices here. It should not be rare at all unless you're talking about Portland, ME maybe.
@calieandco
@calieandco Ай бұрын
@@chuckfaber7521 No, I'm in Oregon. From what I've found, there are only 3 in the local area that offer this. There seem to be so many more studios than that though. Most times I don't consider Georgie's though because they're closed when most people get off work and during the weekend.
@chuckfaber7521
@chuckfaber7521 Ай бұрын
@@calieandco I believe that's fairly high for a city the size of Portland. Most potters I talk to from different areas complain about no community studios or kilnshares at all let alone three studios that will do outside firing and many more that will fire for members only. But I feel you on Georgies having annoying hours. Definitely check out kilnshare though. There are several available.
@Miraclecultart
@Miraclecultart Ай бұрын
I want a kiln but my landlord no and kilnshare in my state of NJ is limited and I only need a kiln that runs on 115/120v and I do not make large pieces so my kiln would be smallish. But I can only get a kiln if I get a house and not rent apartments.
@mikaylam6159
@mikaylam6159 Ай бұрын
I recently learned of microwave kilns. I haven't done much research on them as of yet, but since you don't intend to make large pieces perhaps one will suit your circumstances. Best wishes on your art journey!
@rowanmacmillan
@rowanmacmillan Күн бұрын
lovely dungarees! what make are they can i ask?
@mccrypt2531
@mccrypt2531 27 күн бұрын
I started pottery over a year ago and have loved it since. I go every week two times a week but the studio I go to is getting so expensive and I just want to do more. I am paying 250 dollars a month for 8 hours a week which isn’t bad but I wanna do way more… I’m thinking of making my own studio and selling my stuff and give classes to children but idk if I should… because I’m scared of losing interest (this is the longest hobby I’ve ever had)… but honestly I love it.
@mccrypt2531
@mccrypt2531 27 күн бұрын
I forgot to mention I’ve tried looking for places that rent kilns in high temperature but I don’t find any..
@FiMilton
@FiMilton Ай бұрын
I was ready to buy a kiln but when we contacted our homeowners insurance they said it’s not allowed. I haven’t heard of others having this issue so I was surprised and disappointed of course
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
thats so disappointing! Maybe you can try speaking to another agent, or maybe it’s time to switch insurances… 🙃
@juliajuliax
@juliajuliax Ай бұрын
First, hehe! Love your content.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
yeeahhh!! 🙌🙌 gold star
@talodoart8043
@talodoart8043 Ай бұрын
I bought a 45L kiln that cost me 1000 usd, it's so helpful
@christela5356
@christela5356 16 күн бұрын
Bonjour, où as tu acheté le conduit de la cheminée et quelle est sa composition? Merci !
@Ponyslice
@Ponyslice Ай бұрын
I think it's also good to mention that you really need to know the science behind ceramics and what happens during the firing of clay. A kiln is not something to play around with if you have no idea how the basics work. So also knowing about glazes, different clay types and why they need to be fired differently, the fire curves, cones etc.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
for sure. I talked a bit about that in my kiln playlist.
@DragonsGaura
@DragonsGaura 25 күн бұрын
if you dont have access to a kiln what can you instead?
@joanytaanman6687
@joanytaanman6687 Ай бұрын
€5 in electricity per firing sounds so cheap to me. At our local pottery studio, they charge €5 per kg of clay you bring in (bisque firing), and though they have a very big kiln and thus more costs, I think my 60L kiln fires a lot less efficiently than €5 per firing. Any tips on how you keep the costs low? Great video also, thank you for the advice!
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
Yeah I think thats pretty standard pricing! The electricity is pretty cheap but once you factor in the maintenance, labor, and overhead, I think 5€ per kilo is quite fair. There is a LOT of costs that go into running a studio, so money has to be made. At the studio I ran, we charged 5€/piece for both firings (and that was considered very cheap in my area).
@elivean
@elivean Ай бұрын
Here in Switzerland considering the kwh price every firing is close to 12eur. I wish it was 5eur! Now I won't be firing anything until my kiln is truly full haha
@joanytaanman6687
@joanytaanman6687 Ай бұрын
​@@eliveanhere in the Netherlands as well! I've had some issues with my kiln (due to the voltage dipping at high temperatures and the kiln taking much longer to heat up than it should) so it might work more efficiently when this issue is resolved, but so far I think bisque firing alone came around to €15 in electricity, glaze firing even higher. 🥲 But true haha, it does make you very good at loading a kiln at max capacity!
@joanytaanman6687
@joanytaanman6687 Ай бұрын
​@@PotterytothePeoplethank you for the reply! And that's fair - in the studio I use, they charge €5 for bisque and €6 for glaze per kilo, so depending on the size of your piece that might be around that price. The maintenance, upkeep and loading the kiln take a lot of money and effort too, of course!
@mikeu5380
@mikeu5380 24 күн бұрын
Then there're Andy Ward's and Tony Soares' traditional pottery sites!
@shanspice4303
@shanspice4303 28 күн бұрын
Hi Mia, Could we get a video on your thoughts/ opinions on bat systems? Ones you’ve tried or worked well for a community studio.. if you have strong opinions. Idk if you have mentioned this in another video already
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople 28 күн бұрын
My community studio used the same ones I still use today! They were available but few people used them because I teach folks to throw without bat. Thats what I would recommend. If you want to offer bats, just make sure they will withstand abuse for a community space! Mine are made with offcuts from a friend, so idk the exact material but it’s some HDF i think coated in plastic. Some folks wanted more complex bat systems so they bought their own.
@shanspice4303
@shanspice4303 27 күн бұрын
@@PotterytothePeople thanks so much! I adore everything you do!!
@corryg6403
@corryg6403 Ай бұрын
I was lucky I found a 40 yr old kiln came with everything and then some that = more than the 350 I paid for the kiln, I bought new elements thinking I would need to replace still have not had to, I have access to a shop that is set up to run a large welder and my cheap kiln. I feel very lucky as there is no one near me with a studio . Maybe one day I will have a need for a very expensive new kiln. But I think anyone starting out should start with these old girls and maybe work up.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
That sounds amazing! My first kiln was 40 years old too 😅
@jugeebean
@jugeebean Ай бұрын
Similar to my story...$300....already had an old woodshop...so an outlet.
@AmyPalatnick
@AmyPalatnick Ай бұрын
Omg if you have to change elements yearly something is wrong! Even with almost daily fires, that sounds like way too much to me. I’ve been firing regularly for about 30 years both solo and in a community studio, and I think every four or five years is more realistic. Maybe it depends on the type of kiln?
@IrinaGreenman
@IrinaGreenman Ай бұрын
Another point about ventilation: pets. The amount of ventilation needed to make having any offgas-producing device safe for a cat or dog is significantly more than it is for a human, and for a bird it's even more. For birds, also, the first sign you may get that you haven't sufficiently ventilated your home from something is often the death of the bird. Even using nonstick cookware with a bird in the house is dangerous to a bird, so consider how much more dangerous a kiln would be, if you have a bird.
@Nadaruger
@Nadaruger Ай бұрын
Great info, thanks for sharing!
@ClaraWsfreedom
@ClaraWsfreedom Ай бұрын
agree with this video 100%
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
great!! 🥰
@asdqwe4468
@asdqwe4468 29 күн бұрын
I couldnt afford to buy a kiln so i built one. A couple hundreds euro for a gas fired fiber kiln. Works pretty alright. Its not automated so i need to baby it but thats fine for me. Buying a kiln with 150 liters is just too expensive for what it is.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople 28 күн бұрын
That is so cool! I wouldnt know where to start with building a kiln.
@Skam1one
@Skam1one Ай бұрын
I bought two kilns and installed them in the house I rent without telling my landlord. ;)
@samanthamanalang3730
@samanthamanalang3730 17 күн бұрын
I didn’t hear exactly why it was a mistake? I get there are other options…
@lordsorril3732
@lordsorril3732 9 күн бұрын
I like your snake tattoo. 🙂
@Miraclecultart
@Miraclecultart Ай бұрын
Im probably just gonna buy the kiln I want and not use it til I move. I been serious about pottery for 4 years and for the last 2 years been serious about selling my work.
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
4 years sounds like you’re ready! Good luck!
@JT-91
@JT-91 21 күн бұрын
looked up kiln share the nearest is 200+ miles away lol
@Heartwing37
@Heartwing37 19 күн бұрын
Wha kiln do you have?
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople 19 күн бұрын
it’s a 50L Rohde Ecotop :)
@dianestramacchia3616
@dianestramacchia3616 27 күн бұрын
I have never replaced my elements. It would cost me $5000. My kiln is 30 years old. It only costs $20 per load. You are being a bit negative.
@samjohnson3124
@samjohnson3124 Ай бұрын
if I Get babbel from you, I need to hear ALOT of ceramic terms
@ecocodex4431
@ecocodex4431 Ай бұрын
Getting super hyperfocused on a new hobby before losing interest a few months later? Hehe, my ADHD ass wouldn't know anything about that... hehe... \*Hopes you don't notice the closet full of all the supplies I have for like, 80 different hobbies I have tried out before ditching*
@PotterytothePeople
@PotterytothePeople Ай бұрын
hahaha I dont have ADHD but SAME 😅
@bakezori
@bakezori 24 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, but your comment on sculpture really irritated me, enough to come back a week later and add my own comment. Don't discourage people from choosing their medium of choice. Polymer, air dry clay, cement, plaster, and cob are not the same as working in ceramic clay. Ceramics has a long history as a sculpture media and offer it's own benefits and challenges that other mediums can't match. Please, keep up the great videos, but open your mind to other uses for ceramics outside of functional wares.
@granmabern5283
@granmabern5283 24 күн бұрын
Hello! What I love about working with real clay for sculpting is that it’s elemental and basically non-toxic. At least it’s hypoallergenic. It’s also a permanent material once it’s well fired. This video was mainly for FUNCTIONAL pottery, which must be fired specifically to be safe for use with food and to be waterproof if it’s for a vase or container. Maybe there are other videos about firing sculptures in shared kilns. A dear lady near me in Quebec would fire mine at her studio but one sculpture per load because she didn’t want explosions to break other client’s work. I got an old kiln and am learning how to use it out in the garage. Been watching Andy Ward and hoping to do some outdoor firing soon.
@granmabern5283
@granmabern5283 24 күн бұрын
I enjoyed your comments, so Thankyou! What kind of sculpting do you do? I’ve been experimenting adding paper to my clay after watching Daniel from Vancouver Island explain it. Basically turns any clay into porcelain-type clay. Unless you add too much paper, then it’s just kiddo clay...
@bakezori
@bakezori 24 күн бұрын
@@granmabern5283 a long story shortened, my first degree is in ceramic sculpture. I chose other paths after graduating, but have come back as a hobbyist. I was heavily influenced by the funk art movement (Robert Arneson) in school. As well as environmental art and social commentary. These days, I make pots for fun/gifts as well as slowly turning my garden into a sculpture park. I made a raku salmon influenced by Mesoamerican jars that I’m pretty proud of. Paper clay is awesome for hand building and sculptures! It really gives the clay a lot of stability up to the bisque. Have fun playing with it!!
@AnaMahsati
@AnaMahsati 20 күн бұрын
I don't think she's discouraging anyone from choosing their medium, but form buying a kiln if you're not really sure of your commitment yet. And for sculpture, there are other alternatives, that's all she said. Perhaps that one comment hit close for you for some reason, I truly didn't find her opinions discouraging.
@bakezori
@bakezori 20 күн бұрын
@@AnaMahsati Please, go to the 13:20 mark and listen to what she says about sculpture. "In my mind, there is no reason that you need to be working with real ceramic clay." That is a pretty strong statement about using ceramic clay as a medium.
@Schnueggl
@Schnueggl Ай бұрын
My bank account thanks you for this video 🙃
@Enhancedlies
@Enhancedlies 2 күн бұрын
im sorry, $5 to fire the entire kiln?
@samjohnson3124
@samjohnson3124 Ай бұрын
a Kiln is just a really hot oven.
@samjohnson3124
@samjohnson3124 Ай бұрын
NEIN! ES IS NICHT EIN SCHWERES SPRACHE! NEIN!
@sybillestahl8646
@sybillestahl8646 23 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t that be ‘eine schwere sprache’.
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