Poundworld vs Poundland LED flashlight showdown.

[@JordyValentine]

Button cell batteries are quite pricey, annoys me when theyre in cheap electronics, usually the battery is 4x the price of the thing you're putting it in

[@stinkycheese804]

They're really not that bad if you buy in bulk on eBay, say 100 at a time except in something like a flashlight, the current limitation makes it junk, no better than the flash on your cell phone if even that bright. Then again I'd consider the Poundland 3x AAA to not be worth the cost of the batteries either, unless you happened to have a lot of spare NiMH rechargeables lying around with no other use for them, but even then, something like a Nebo Larry or generic knockoff is going to be near the same size and much brighter, just costs more too but shouldn't something be reasonable good to bother with it at all, when we're talking about basic necessities like a flashlight and much, MUCH better can be had for under $20 USD. The lesson learned by most flashaholics is that you can keep buying more and more junk, or just put the money towards a really nice light in the first place and save a lot of time while enjoying it the whole while.

[@JordyValentine]

I don't plan far enough ahead to buy in bulk haha, I have a few things that use 2025's and when they run out it usually means a trip to the supermarket because i need them now haha I agree with the whoe flashlight thing, I have a beast of a pocket flashlight, it's marketed as a tactical flash light haha, I'm not so sure but that little LED is almost as bright as a halogen work light

[@paulsengupta971]

The thing about buying cheap torches is that you can buy a lot of them. I have a stack of them so I can keep them in the car, in the aeroplane, in the kitchen drawer, next to the bed, on the table here beside me...and yes, I do have a stack of cheap NiMh batteries!

[@stinkycheese804]

Yeah but THOSE? Way TOO cheap. I've been pleasantly surprised by the $2 (ebay) Sipik SK68 1xAA lights, particularly their versatility in having both zoom and candle mode (lots of people don't realize the bezel can be unscrewed to do that), BUT although I have spares lying about, I never end up using them because I EDC a light just as bright but smaller, and have others much brighter and longer running, including task oriented for what these Pound-brand lights can do (broad area) would be something like my Nebo Big Larry. Even the generic junk I've gotten from Big Lots for free (with coupon) are better than the Pound-lights, and yet I don't value them enough to even put new batteries in once the originals drain, unless I'm doing something where I literally expect the light to be destroyed.

[@paulsengupta971]

No, not these types, but I can see how the Poundland one may be useful. The ones I have are a mixture of these types: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9-LED-UV-Torch-Ultra-Violet-AAA-Mini-Aluminium-Flashlight-Lamp-Torch-New-TM-/262483249467 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREE-XPE-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Lamp-Zoomable-Waterproof-Aluminium-Alloy-Black-/172180317172

[@Normenian]

The world would be so boring without people like Big Clive. He's like the guy everyone likes to hang around with.

[@Muonium1]

straps are perfect size for the next visit to those peskily darker corners of my local bathhouse.

[@jusb1066]

willy straps?

[@death3443]

what da fck guys

[@MyFatty69]

you can do the the willy dance with them on. would b like a propeller

[@thesillyhatday]

We need more Poundworld vs Poundland videos

[@schadenfreudebuddha]

I thought Britain was on the metric system...shouldn't the money be measured in kilograms?

[@neroxen_]

That makes no sense.

[@AiOinc1]

+Neroxen it's a joke. Weight is measured in pounds (lbs) in America.

[@AiOinc1]

See: Stuart Ashen

[@wdave6944]

I kinda thought of Jeff Dunham's Peanut saying "wrerrrrrrr" with his hand passing over its head ;-)

[@thelamb288]

I think this is an excellent SAFETY video about the batteries. I, at 58 years of age, did not know the dangers of the button cell batteries. Well done and thank you. Cheers.

[@henrysouthall7219]

big Clive you're a legend

[@RFC3514]

1:37 - It's a cocklight, Clive, we all know it.

[@lorenhusky2717]

Bigclive, please do more videos like this. I really like this comparison. It also makes me wish that our Dollar tree equivalent sold stuff like this.

[@imajeenyus42]

Ah but Clive, you missed the most interesting part! How on earth do they get three "states" out of a single mechanical push switch? That's worthy of a teardown in itself!

[@ThePiones]

It sure is!

[@theLuigiFan0007Productions]

You know how clicky ballpoint pen works? Similar mechanism. It ratchets with each click to a different position, as well as going up and down. Inside a pen, put a mark on the part that has the jagged edges, and them reassemble and push it a few times. If you take it back apart, you'l see how the mark moved. That concept can easily make and break multiple connections.

[@xyanide1986]

When's the fleshlight showdown.

[@CookingWithCows]

he already has the hole warmer :P

[@misterhat5823]

+Cooking With Cows and it plugs into a USB port too.

[@blitzmeister3356]

I see, you're loving your high-vis jacket :P

[@RealSnarb]

1:40 What other "bodily appendages" might you be talking about?

[@LWolf12]

Ear of course. >.>

[@misterhat5823]

The smaller strap isn't big enough for THAT.

[@davidnull5590]

In business reviews of PoundLand, they said PoundLand typically marks-up the price of the merchandise delivered to the store by 18%. With the recent (Fall 2016) decrease in the value of the pound by 17% (roughly USD1.22 for 1 GBP), it doesn't look good for future Chinese Tat at PoundLand.

[@jusb1066]

china will make it cheaper and crappier to enable them to keep selling at a pound, at least thats possible for a while, untill you only get one AAA or one plastic fork for a pound, then it becomes pointless.

[@Willielikesmonkeys]

0:06 "The Pound Industry" I didn't know that was allowed on KZbin.

[@jjppmm29]

didnt you know youtube servers come out of poundtown ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@RYANTDTV]

I have been watching u for a year and I can't think of a singles bad video thank thanks for all your amazing content

[@MrChrissster]

Thank you for going through the trouble of presenting this wearing a radioactive sweater.

[@matthewday7565]

My winner, without a doubt, is Sams 99p, their LED Zoom torch has a round LED chip, hard to judge the size because of the lens, and focusing that really does work. Runs on 3xAAA in a fat cylinder holder - conversion to Li-ion would be difficult, as the case is plastic and the holder brings the rear connection to the front in a tip and ring contact arrangement. It too has a "non-wrist" strap. Not kidding, this is prodigiously bright, you would not want to look into the beam.

[@SconVideos]

An excellent flashlight! We need more of these videos :)

[@bami2]

The poundworld torch looks like it's a chinese knockoff of a chinese knockoff. Guess you'll get more bang for your pound at poundland than poundworld.

[@jonathancook4022]

Horrah for poundland! - I don't have a poundworld near me in Kendal, Cumbria, so the conclusion of this teardown is welcome!

[@jimvandamme]

It would be interesting to measure the current to see if they exceed the LED ratings. I had a big (3 D cell) torch LED go very dim after a couple years use.

[@DatBlueHusky]

you should convert it to li-ion and usb charger

[@wupme]

hmm 4,5 volts, probaby still working at 3 volts. Yeah could work with an 18650 if it fits.

[@DavidGloverAoki]

And warm-white LEDs

[@ChrisD4335]

David Glover-Aoki and a usb hole warmer

[@stanmarsh14]

Cracking idea with the 18650..... the Poundland one may just fit that with some modification, and could also double up as a handy small powerbank.

[@paulsengupta971]

Use the little rechargeable lithium batteries out of those "disposable" vape units.

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

Hey, Clive, i've stumlbed upon some new types of power LEDs modules that you might want to check out. They're made with the aluminum PCB, and have much less plastic on them than the older type. I've ordered myself a 20W one and was pleasantly surprised to see it illuminate perfectly evenly.

[@phils4634]

Could you fit the Poundworld switch cover to the Poundland torch? That would avoid the plastic cut-out "button" failing at an inconvenient moment!

[@jaguarfacedman1365]

Its also a matter of the zinc casing on the batteries. Zinc ions are rather strong Lewis acids and are strong enough to cause potential chemical burns to the inside of the digestive track.

[@mmmlinux]

I recently purchased from dollar tree a led torch similar to the pound land one. But it didn't come with a magnet or wrist strap and there was no top led just the 3 side ones. It's modes are also different. It goes flashing - on - off. Oh and no cover for replacing the button cells your self, not that I think any one would.

[@worldofrandometry6912]

It's always fun to ask a Poundland/Poundworld assistant how much these items cost.

[@jebuschrist3958]

People like you are what is wrong with this planet.

[@worldofrandometry6912]

Forgive me Jebus. LOL

[@makomk]

Well, now that a lot of the items in Poundland cost more than a pound...

[@station240]

I suppose you then announce you'll have to come back next week as you only have 50p.

[@caroegc]

the cashiers would have to disagree

[@MattTester]

I have a Ring branded torch that looks very similar to the Poundland one, probably the non-knockoff version as it was certainly more than a pound. Internals look the same although strangely it takes 4 AAA batteries instead of 3. I've had it for a few years but the high output LED started flickering recently, very annoying, probably the switch so I'd watch out for that.

[@wolfgangmcq]

It's interesting that they seem to be using an actual three-way switch--I would have thought a tactile button and a little blob would be cheaper than a switch with a bunch of fiddly bits inside.

[@daShare]

The switches are interesting. Maybe they have a spring loaded cam to move through the 3 or 4 states?

[@bigclivedotcom]

It's a rotating ratchet system like a retracting pen.

[@daShare]

I suspected it may be something like that. Neat way to avoid using electronics for such a simple task.

[@notyoung]

Some years ago, I picked up an inexpensive rechargeable "power fail" and opened to see why the battery life was so short. Button NiCad rechargeables! That was immediately resolved, as there was plenty of room for AA NiCads. Then later upgraded with and LED instead of an incandescent. It's now a quite decent light ;-)

[@locouk]

You're doing Trading Standards job for them now lol

[@IchigoKurosaki011]

I have a Rolson one exactly like this, except it has a larger magnet on the back and takes 4 AAA batteries. Plus it has an extra click where it turns on both of the lights at once. Also 36 LEDs on the side.

[@stanmarsh14]

Cracking little torch the one from Poundland.... got one for emergency use in the leccy cupboard at mums, and another at my flat, for when I am working on my Fruit Machines. Especially when I am working on my bandits, the main 12-way lamp matrix, gives just enough light in the smallest package, to get in to places, where my main clip-on inspection lamp from Ikea can not get to.

[@Lakes57]

I love your videos Clive, but my eyes keep being drawn to the exceeding bright yellow cuffs when they appear. :)

[@bigclivedotcom]

Which is their original function. It's a high visibility work hoodie.

[@Lakes57]

Of course, making youtube videos can highly dangerous, you can be hit by a drive-by comment at any time. :)

[@someguy4915]

Always wear your hivi to be safe!

[@JasonW.]

He wears those because his wrists are extremely dangerous and could attack at any time. He has dealt with them.

[@theLuigiFan0007Productions]

+Jason Woods You could say they're under a lot of.... press-ure. *Badum Tisssss*

[@Landrew0]

May I offer my opinion? Thanks... I don't think this video represents a showdown between the two pound stores at all, but rather 2 different but similar Chinese imports.

[@bigclivedotcom]

Poundworld is notable for its lesser products compared to Poundland. They're more likely to stock non compliant products.

[@rehlo3]

what? these are not from the UK? Oh no ! :D (Sarcasm)

[@dessimes]

I assume that Poundworld & Poundland the UK versions of what Dollar General, Dollar Tree, & Family Dollar are here in the US?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Yup.

[@mixedspleens]

I always thought that the UK had slightly better stuff in their pound shops then we do in our dollar stores, but I chalked it up to the pound being worth more than the dollar. but with the pound being much closer to the dollar than it used to be ( £1 = approx $1.23 at time of writing) I wonder if that difference will also lessen.

[@DogsBAwesome]

The £1 includes tax (VAT) at 20% so it's more or less the same,

[@mittfh]

We also used to have a large chain called 99p Stores, but they were bought by Poundland, who unsurprisingly raised all prices by 1.01% during the rebrand...

[@stonent]

Family Dollar is now owned by Dollar Tree. But only Dollar tree sells things that are truly a dollar. DG and FD sell things mostly at even dollar amounts.

[@onkz]

It's like Ashens all over again!

[@twocvbloke]

Assuming them button cells are LR44s, would one of them 6v "4LR44" batteries fit in there in place of the button cells? Just a random thought on replacing the batteries... :)

[@MrMiniac]

my addiction summed up, thank you big clive.

[@TheSpotify95]

The button cells are commonly AG1, AG3, AG4 or AG5 if small button cells. Larger button cells are AG13. You can buy these button cells in packs at some shops, or on eBay (I got 100 AG4 cells for about £4 for watches and clocks etc). AAA batteries are much more common though, and have a higher capacity.

[@CookingWithCows]

is the one with the button cells maybe marketed for emergencies? Can the button cells stay in the device for longer periods of time until in an emergency situations it's needed? Could be good to have in the car, if it breaks at night and you need to have a quick light for a rather short period of time. How long do you think the button cells would last in storage and for how long would they provide power to the LEDs?

[@jusb1066]

modern alkaline button cells tend to leak after about a year, the older mercury cells would work for a decade in storage, better off looking for something that uses lithium, you can even get lithium AA and they last for over a decade in storage, ideal to keep in a simple flashlight for emergencies. also buy a flashlight from somone like varta, who actually tell you in reliable lumens and running time, they do a ragen of tough ones, add in some lithium AA and you have something good for 10 years at least.

[@Seegalgalguntijak]

How does the Poundworld one know whether to turn on the 3 LEDs on the side or the one in the front, when there's only a "clicky" type of button that was pressed? It must somehow remember its last state, but then it can't, because there is no chip - which would need to get its power continuously from the batteries anyways, but the switch interrupts that...?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Ratchet disk that rotates inside with multiple contacts.

[@techy4198]

The switches are a rather clever bit of engineering, all the alternation happens mechanically inside the switch, by rotating a contact to form the different connections with each press. The rotation happens by a similar action to how a clicky pen works, if you've ever looked inside one. I have a black flashlight similar to the poundland variety where the switch has a fourth state in which both outputs are lit.

[@veraxis9961]

Forget the light, I would buy it and just take out the button cells. I don't think you could buy 4 button cells for that little normally. Which, as you say, also makes it pointless to try to replace them when they eventually die out if you used them on the light.

[@petermcarthur7450]

You can buy whole big blister packs of button cells at poundworld.

[@paulsengupta971]

And if there isn't one near you, you can get them posted all the way from China for about the same price.

[@highvis_supply]

The showdown we didn't need but deserved.

[@NightlifeSux]

The Poundworld light is identical to the ones they sell at Dollar Tree in the USA.

[@dilbertpapadopoulos1289]

I wonder about this current limiting resistor, is it wasting a lot of energy like may be halve of total battery power or is it negligible like below five percent?

[@bigclivedotcom]

No. It's quite a small drop across it.

[@AiOinc1]

5:55 video length on an electronics video? Timers away!

[@imeakdo7]

they are definitely from alibaba, ordered through alibaba and possibly made by the same company/supplier with prossible customization options

[@danyk666]

Those button-cell flashlights are usually trashed when the first set of batteries runs flat. I doubt anybody would replace the batteries. Low capacity, high cost. Such flashlight is only good when kept for emergency. But usually it is just a sudden buy or a stupid gift :). I have tens and tens of those because people just don't know what gift to buy for me :D. I tend to salvage the button cells for better use and trash the flashlight :D

[@thehappylittlefoxakabenji8154]

cool foxy has one but the battery cover was missing on the pound world one on mine

[@502deth]

ill have to pick one up next time i go to pound town.

[@SeraphimKnight]

You'd be surprised how long button batteries last to power LEDs. King Blade iLites use 3 LR44 batteries and last dozens of hours, although they're not super bright I guess.

[@TheAlasFelatio]

Clive, whats the story with the switch / board on these? I have the germ of an idea.

[@mikecawood]

I bought a Poundland LED torch a couple of years ago and once I got it home and tried it, most of the LEDs burnt out within a minute or so so no Poundland LED torches for me ever again.

[@JasonZakrajsek]

I'm surprised there's no mode to have both lights on (top and side) on either one of them.

[@1pcfred]

No competition at all. The flashlight on the right won by a mile. Mo bigger is always mo betterer. OK maybe not always, but certainly in a case like this more is more.

[@aszi77]

With so many torches using 3aaa, I don't understand why aaa batteries are not sold in packs of 3.

[@bigclivedotcom]

Poundland sells them in packs of six.

[@CommodoreFan64]

It's usually either 2, 4, 8, 12, etc.. here in the US.

[@stinkycheese804]

So that once you've wasted 3 x AAA cells in a crap 3 x AAA light, you'll still have one left over from a 4 pack to put in a 1 x AAA keychain light like an Olight I3E, one of the biggest bangs for the buck in keychain lights out there, at least if you want better than trouble prone generic junk.

[@milksheihk]

There's talk of banning those button cells for most applications in Australia, it's because of the ease with which small children & household pets can swallow them & the massive damage they can do if they corrode in someone or something's gut.

[@kevindondrea144]

I wonder if you can replace the button cell batteries with one of those Car Remote batteries. Some of them use the batteries that look like you left a AAA battery in the dryer and it shrunk :) I've been converting stuff like that flashlight into USB power. It adds having to carry a USB Battery pack but I have so many of those small ones that only put out 1 amp if you're lucky. They are perfect for little USB powered projects.

[@animationcreations42]

Have you seen the new PoundWorld LED Bulbs?

[@teacfan1080]

You've got a Pound World, Pound Land now all you need is Pound City!

[@TDGalea]

(Commenting at 1:35) As far as I know, you're calling them by their opposite store. I've only seen the button cell one in Poundland. I've not seen the other.

[@TNice777]

Nice idea to compare like for like. Any other items you can do this with? Could be a little mini series :)

[@craignehring]

It would be nice if available in the states

[@6F6G]

The Poundland torch effectively costs £2. A pound for the torch and a pound for a pack of AAA cells (which includes a gazillion refills). Wonder if Ashens has tried eating batteries yet.

[@itogi]

I still like Poundworld's LED flashlight because of its simple design, and it's the only version that we have in Russia.

[@RetroSwim]

So would you say PoundLand took PoundWorld down to Pound Town?

[@Spexxos1]

How many button cells does it take to kill child for sure?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Just one can cause death.

[@GlennPierce]

Recently saw an interesting example here www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37435364

[@Spexxos1]

bigclivedotcom where can i find a kid to test this hypothesis?

[@uncleantonfester5572]

+Spexxos1 There are a few just come through the border from France..!

[@AdhamOhm]

+Glenn Pierce I'm curious to see this experiment re-done using raw meat instead of ham, which is full of curing agents like added salt and other chemicals not found in living tissue. The reaction might have been from the curing agents.

[@themaritimegirl]

You didn't compare the actual light output from them...!

[@Defensive_Wounds]

I have a name brand torch like this but it is a quality construction, the side 'lamp mode' has a frosted appearance so as to not be bright in your face and the end torch mode is very bright - it charges wirelessly plus the charge lasts for years! I last charged mine about 3 years ago and it is still bright...lol This is a picture of it - www.right-light.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/i/nightsearcher-sensor-lite-rechargeable-led-torch.jpg It also acts as a nightlight when placed on the wireless charger, it has a motion sensor so the lamp mode will turn on when it detects motion nearby. I bought this one about 6 year ago!

[@ihateemael]

many small devices use these horrible AAAs, any interest in some sort of conversion?

[@briansmith6487]

If you are using this as an 'emergency' torch only then the Poundworld version with the lithium buttons would be better, as lithium cells have a much longer shelf life (10 years+) and low self-discharge, so will more likely to still be usable long-term (unless you use lithium AAA's in the other torch)

[@bigclivedotcom]

The Poundworld unit doesn't use lithium cells. Just cheapo ordinary cells.

[@dittot]

can someone send me a link for those toggle switches from the flashlights?

[@MJTVideos]

how about poundtown?

[@jjppmm29]

electronic landfill little Li-po battery, a usb charger circuit, and a little micro usb connector can change that... TBH a pretty good afternoon project if someone where to be so inclined

[@samfisher1890]

can you do a pound land vs pound world mains LED bulbs Showdown please

[@bridgendesar]

Maybe you should retrofit your jewel thief circuit into the poundworld one, so it works with a single AAA

[@vapsyvox]

Nemeses is the plural form of nemesis, like axis/axes.

[@ScottPC]

Big up the trusty Poundland one ;)

[@ShiftyMoses]

i remember swallowing a button battery when i was a kid, didnt do me any damage thankfully :)

[@nethalus]

I think Clive should be sponsored by I SDeasamo due to the serious spudger action in his videos, and they should do a super spudger called a 'Clive'

[@Dadoo83]

I thought some kind of chip would be involved. Quite interesting mechanical switches instead then :I

[@tartrazine]

1:43 A LED torch around your Pemis? Just in case. Hmmm.

[@Gooberslot]

What happens if an adult eats a button cell?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Still a problem if it has much charge left in it.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

what if iron man eats one

[@bigclivedotcom]

Rust.

[@jafafa]

Even if you did have button cells, it would cost more to replace them than to replace the whole product.

[@jusb1066]

well you can buy lots of them for a pound, usually a mixed set on a card, but they are really bad, low capacity and leaky.

[@seannot-telling9806]

When you said button cells are bad for children you for =got pets too.. I always have to watch the cats when batteries are out. Most times I put them into a screw top pill bottle to keep the batteries away from the cats.

[@jusb1066]

those small alkaline button cells tend to leak, since they banned the old mercury cells, small cells apart from lithium are terrible and leak after about a year

[@OriginalUsername9000]

150 mAh capacity for the button cell, best case scenario. As you said, it's pretty much trash.

[@brianterrill9587]

In the US it's DollarTree vs Dollar General.

[@HuntersMoon78]

I was looking at getting one of those Poundland lights just a few days ago

[@HuntersMoon78]

I ended up getting the Poundworld light as Poundland didn't have their light in stock

[@rhianor]

Do they teach electronics in school?

[@zh84]

Vitor Manuel Leite de Matos Yes, we had courses in analogue or digital electronics in fifth year in Scotland.

[@anjayv8347]

clive, what is that switch in the flashlight called as?

[@bigclivedotcom]

The Chinese refer to it as a clicky switch, but I'm not sure the official name. It's not really a tactile switch as such.

[@anjayv8347]

thank u Clive !

[@DavidAlanGilbert]

Now a tear down of the switchs would be interesting; I'm curious how it's doing the 3 way.

[@charlesmurphy5644]

4:11 I can’t get passed wasting the capacity and possible redundancy of a fourth battery by using a spacer. I got a cheap flashlight(sorry torch) that can run on all four batteries or just two, why would they use a spacer!?🤯

[@peanutandpopeye]

im proud to have the same name as you clive :D

[@peanutandpopeye]

my name is clive lambert im on my dads account

[@souravzzz]

Poundtown fleshlight beats them all.

[@joshuabest100]

"not tried swallowing that one" so does that mean Clive has tried to swallow a button cell lol

[@supernova1976]

I just hacked my Ikea led 3 cell aa solar rechargeable desk lamp which never really worked to charge the 3 cells ever. so I decided to solder a usb cable direct to the credit board and run it of any power bank , this worked but now I am worried because it was not designed to run off 5 v and much higher current , the led heats up and I measured the current , it is draining the power bank way faster than the capability of the power bank @ 2 amps and the voltage is dropping to 3.7 . I am guessing I need to add a limiting resister .

[@bigclivedotcom]

You could use a diode in series to reduce the 5V to the equivalent of three freshly charged NiMh cells.

[@seanet1310]

I thought there were EU rules about mechanical restraints of battery holders with this kind of small coin cell

[@makomk]

Yeah, I have my doubts about whether that torch is actually legal to sell.

[@jusb1066]

the cheap shops have sold lots of dodgy goods, from dangerous usb power supplies to mains extension leads that are not tested to the bs standards etc

[@zh84]

A couple of years ago my sister's boy had an electronic fart simulator he got with the Beano. I took it off him the first chance I got and found that it was powered by a stack of those button cells.