POV Angular Inference Method of Finding North

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[@shcmoly]

More accurate than a hour's measure and fast but more complicated. I would have to do this using notes in the field. Really interesting, thanks Dave.

[@RustyConibear]

Your review vids are great and all that but pls don’t quit doing vids like this. Your bread and butter and what keeps me goin. Long time follower.

[@James_Bowie]

Now that needs watching a few times, plus some practice!

[@blackhatbushcraft]

BRILLIANT! Nice old Silva Type 15 as well. I have 2 of those and barring the Suunto, it is the best map compass I have used. Hopefully the old shadow stick method will be scrapped by everyone eventually and recognized as a flawed method. Thanks for sharing your research brother!

[@alexweicker8333]

I needed to watch this twice and now I need a sunny day and a lot of practice.... 😁

[@lightburner8567]

Pretty interesting method, Dave! 👍 I'm gonna try this just to get some practical practice... However, I have to say that your explanation was very clear, easy to understand and retain!... Thank you for sharing! 💜

[@texashillbilly6148]

Excellent information Dave.

[@GrayBeardedGreenBeret]

Nice! Adding that to the mental kit bag

[@AtlasReburdened]

Great demonstration, Dave. That's an easy one for people to muddle the details on but that was a clean explanation.

[@jamessix60]

Nice info as always, welcome home. Thanks again

[@MadDogSurvival]

Absolutely brilliant! Love it! Thanks for a brilliant demonstration sir! Very best wishes to you and your family

[@merrilllangs]

Wow thanks so much I need to watch this several times to fully grasp everything but I got the gist the first time surprisingly. Thanks

[@thed8229]

Woooah.. That one is new to me. Can't wait to show my boys!! Good stuff buddy.

[@steffanoswald7917]

That is absolutely amazing and a great thing to know. Thankyou for posting that. I’ll have to watch it and practice it but, it is important information

[@mitchalgreen7244]

Im highly impressed with this video, awesome. Also, liked the sun compass videos you made a while back. All the best.

[@enochtwoeagles9418]

Dave, that was a great video. Thanx

[@BruceNitroxpro]

Dave, all you really need to know is the correct time. Good job!

[@ravenpath8393]

I really like this one. Great job sir!

[@jimferguson9528]

Amazing results. Thanks.

[@evanf1443]

Hey, Dave, is it possible you could do a video about making activated charcoal in the woods? I have yet to find a good video on it and think it could be useful. I’ve heard it’s possible to activate it with lye from wood ash, which you’ve shown us how to make, but I’m not sure if that would be safe to ingest. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks for your time.

[@roberthartford6614]

Now THAT was cool, Dave.

[@REAPERMILITIAOUTDOORS]

Holy learning curve on this lol. Not much I can say on this besides my ass would be lost and hopefully my woodsman skills will keep me alive, not lol. This teaches me don't lose or leave home without a compass in unknown territory lol.👊💀🍻

[@mikeaden7870]

If you are in an area where your compass might be effected by iron ore deposits or something else this might be a good way to check to make sure your your compass is giving the correct bearing or if it has gone way off course other wise it is still a worth while skill to learn, practice, master, own and reteach. Thanks again Dave

[@stephenzevetchin]

Thank you Dave!

[@DavidCanterbury]

Okwoodsman, I dont see your comment but I liked it and replied to it if you want to re post I may have deleted by accident or something

[@basicwoodsman2855]

That was so simple!! I’m gonna buy some extra batteries for my GPS now... lol

[@MBwelding]

That's pretty cool I'll have to give it a try where I live it would be a good trick to have since the only thing for 60 miles is our town of 84 people and I don't always have a compass on me

[@Darignobullseye]

Fantastic!! Thank you!

[@BruceLee-mo4pn]

Thank You Sir, Love knowledge

[@lesstraveledpath]

@7:20. You mention doing the method with one stick in the ground. BUT...you did need two other pieces of information: the distance the shadow moved in an hour, and the number of hours past (or before) the zenith (e.g. an accurate local time). How do you infer the distance to the inferred shadow without the distance the shadow moves in an hour? In other words, can you really just walk up to a stick in the ground and find north (to a reasonable accuracy) with only the local time and that single shadow?

[@DavidCanterbury]

If you are using the Same length Shadow stick lets say ax handle length, you shuld be able to used past known data

[@luanaewerling8883]

Grande Dave!!!

[@robertwilson6443]

Gotta go to that school

[@David-fv7zg]

So the text method was off 30 degrees. I’m curious how far off would it be to say the sun rises in the east, sets in the west, the middle is north. More or less than 30 degrees?

[@michaelgeiss741]

Shouldn't the small sticks go into the ground at the end of the main shadow, with a time gap in between? The video shows the main stick shadow extending well past the points where the small sticks are driven into the ground. If the small sticks were driven in at some point along the shadow instead of at the end, that could explain why you didn't get a good east west line.

[@michaelgeiss741]

Here is the technique I use: Drive a long (4 to 6 foot) stick into the ground well enough that it doesn't move around. At the very end of the long stick shadow, drive a small stick into the ground. Wait about 15 or 20 minutes. The tip of the long stick shadow will have moved straight east from where the small marker stick was driven. Mark the new position of the end of the long stick shadow. Wait longer if more accuracy is needed. If the ground is level and clear, the movement of the long stick shadow tip will move very accurately straight eastward.

[@DavidCanterbury]

I don't think you have much experience with this or didn't pay attention well enough the Pins themselves will also throw a shadow making it appear that they are not at the end of the shadow stick shadow even though they are when placed in the ground.

[@DavidCanterbury]

Your technique is Flawed unless you live at 23.5 degrees latitude and are taking the reading on Dec 21st or June 21st respectively

[@michaelgeiss741]

@@DavidCanterbury Thanks for your channel. I am a fan and have watched your content for a long time. I carefully watched the video to make sure I wasn't missing anything. You can see very clearly at the one second mark that the main shadow extends quite a bit past where the pin is inserted. That part of the video would have been taken just a few minutes after the second pin was driven, as the main shadow has continued moving eastward. Are you saying that the holes for both those pins were made at the location of the very end of the main shadow in both cases? That would mean that the tip of the shadow had moved from the base of the first pin to the base of the second pin in an hour, and then to a point quite far off of that line when the video was made. Except at extreme latitude, the path of the tip of the shadow will approximate a very straight line.

[@michaelgeiss741]

@@DavidCanterbury I do celestial navigation as a hobby. I have done this test in the US, Argentina, Nepal, Singapore, and South Africa. I often place pebbles or coins on the shadow tips of table corners when dining at outdoor cafes, just so i can see the point move eastward. I use a compass app on my phone to verify the line. If I place a coin every 5 minutes it draws a beautiful straight line. The earlier in the morning or later in the evening, the faster the shadow tip moves. Anyway, I really appreciate your excellent content!

[@3nertia]

I dunno, Dave, that's lookin' an awful lot like trigonometry xD Excellent video! Think this could be done with string? Inner paracord strands perhaps?

[@justindawson3428]

When are you going to do a Nav book?

[@rexeverything4578]

Awesome

[@capnpicard6146]

Is there an 11th C that I dont know about? "#11, a Potato Camera. Every good survivalist understands the importance of being able to keep a record of important information."

[@msilverhammer]

This demonstration illustrates why I use my GPS device, and a compass! Unlike the Flash I know that the sun sets in the West, and rises in the east, and varies a little to the SE, and NW based upon the season. I'm good!

[@eatmorenachos]

Very useful information, though waving the camera around like that made me dizzy. Seriously.

[@mikeaden7870]

Too bad its overcast and raining here. Have to learn how the nav with out sun or stars with overcast sky in the rain without a compass,gps ,or phone now theres a challenge im betting its been done before

[@DavidCanterbury]

Celestial Navigation is not hard at all, unfortunately video at night is a bit more challenging so we save it for Classes

[@mikeaden7870]

@@DavidCanterburyThanks again Dave for all that you share you never know you may have saved someone's life with out ever knowing it

[@jimferguson9528]

@@DavidCanterbury I have a SEAL friend that has an amazing knowledge of the night sky. Evidently, they received some very good instruction.

[@DavidCanterbury]

Did he say where he got this training?

[@jimferguson9528]

@@DavidCanterbury Evidently he got his training as a Seal, most likely in Coronado, California. He had several missions into North Vietnam during the war and had to do some serious navigating. That was before GPS.

[@dannypalmer8990]

You have shown far less complicated methods I will stick" no pun intended" with an easier one.

[@mikeaden7870]

Always try and study a map of the area your plan on going into beforehand and its landmarks and geography this can be a real like saver

[@Critical_mtb]

First one here!!!!!