pov trainees who train for 10+ yrs just to not debut

[@Hyunjinoimi]

That's so painful when u trained almost ur whole life just to find out that u won't be debuting is the worst feeling for every trainee😢😢😢

[@eihr267]

What's worse is that most trainees drop their studies because "I don't need to study to become a celebrity, i just need to train in these companies", then not get accepted and have a hard time catching up with school since they're 4+ years late and their knowledge are now forgotten(might as well just go back to 1st grade one of the teacher said) This actually happened to 2 people i know (we trained together but i stopped) and now they work at the café I owned which they hated but have no choice since they need money.

[@Abi-mf6qy]

Rejection can be protection. They can try to become their own independent artists free to do whatever they want and use all that training for that

[@eihr267]

@@Abi-mf6qy in Korea? Impossible, unless they have very rich parents who can support all the expenses. The songs costs money, unless the trainee knows how to make a song. Recording studios cost money. Dance Studio cost money. MV making cost money you gotta hire people and rent equipment(which is super super expensive). Promoting your song costs money. And so much more. Trust me even rich parents wouldn't want to spend that much money on something they don't know if they'd get their money back, especially if their kids are new to the industry.

[@jasminey83]

Have you heard about phd students?

[@goldenhourss]

@@eihr267yesand the huge debts

[@minniyvaej]

Moon Sua during YG, like girlie was part of “Future Of 2NE1” trained for 10 years just to leave and debut under a different company 😭😭😭

[@iagreewithyou3478]

Tbf, having the tag as a "yg trainee" (particularly one that has some form of popularity while being a trainee there) will almost always guarantee you a debut spot in another company. Because YG rarely debuts groups, many companies are always checking for trainees they can poach lol YG trainees don't have trainee debt as well so it's easy for them to leave.

[@mary_lu]

​@@iagreewithyou3478really? They haven't to pay their debt in yg?

[@iagreewithyou3478]

@@mary_lu Yeah, their director of training said it's basically free because it's an investment. I even have the sneaking suspicion that YG secretly supplies trainees and services to other kpop companies lol 😂 They willingly share their resources and services to other groups, like their choreographers and their dance studios. They're even the distributor of music from many big kpop companies 😅.

[@Dashomin]

@@mary_luyes and most trainees for YG are rich if you look it up

[@greenboy5314]

Moon sua from billie?

[@aniya4890]

imagine training almost 10 years just for someone that’s hardly a teenager to join your company and be immediately picked to debut solely for their looks and not talent 💀

[@wthIsTimeEven]

Literally Bangchan and Felix from Stray Kids😭✋

[@yaaaan6763]

​@@wthIsTimeEven I watched their pre-debut show, though I ended up not stanning Stray Kids once they did debut. Some of JYP and I remember GOT7 members were judges too- comments actually made sense to me and put some things into perspective. There are many factors into debut, it's not just about having skills or innate talent, or even a pretty face. One of the major factors is actually 'charisma' or having that star-quality aura (some people are just born with it) and their innate ability to attract people, no matter what their appearance is. I remember that one mission, GOT7 members and JYP said the maknae (forgot his name) wasn't really good skill-wise but for some reason their eyes always go to him lmao. When I watched SMent's recent survival show for the new NCT unit, I also heard similar comments throughout the show. There's so many trainees, but they chose some people who, even if they're a bit lacking, has this 'star-quality' that is honestly hard to find cause you just CANNOT train to have that, you have to be born with it.

[@christopher_chan52]

@@wthIsTimeEvenare you saying those two didn’t deserve to be debuted??

[@wthIsTimeEven]

@@christopher_chan52 BISH AS A RELIGIOUS BELIEVER IN THE ONE AND ONLY SOLACE THAT WAS CHANNIES ROOM. I FU@KING LOVE THEM OK. GODAMN. But ah no, sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually referred to that one moment in Eric Nams interview with em two. Bang chan was listing everything he had to do while being a trainee. Like multiple auditions: dancing, singing, playing the guitar, etc. for 10 years. And our poor boi Felix was just. freakin dancing 💃. The perplexed look on Channies face😭.

[@pitterpatterson]

​@yaaaan6763 yes this!!!!! You have to have that charisma. Not everybody has it and there are popular groups now with certain members that I just wonder "why?" Not saying they are bad but somethings missing.

[@SnowyWinterbaby]

*How to start a villain's story*

[@dana_0612]

Han Seo Hee: 👀

[@SnowyWinterbaby]

@@dana_0612 OH YES LMAO

[@meereeanalee]

​@@dana_0612YES

[@tamannasiddiqua]

Very true

[@iyuzjeon7]

why everyone always write villian instead of "villain"??

[@czenniesomnionce2119]

In all seriousness though, if a company feels as if a trainee isnt at the level they want them to be at, they should just cut them after at least 4-5 years rather than wasting 10+ years of their time and their childhood since most trainees become trainees very young, years that they won't ever get back.

[@yaaaan6763]

As far as I know trainees aren't really 'jailed' to stay as trainees. They offer contracts, the maximum offer when you're new is 1 year (that's why you typically hear ex-trainees of other ent say they trained for a year etc.) then after that basically 'trial' period, you decide if you want to continue and sign another one. For smaller companies yes, I know they often force their trainees to not renew their contracts after it ended since they have limited resources. However, for big companies they don't really do this cause they have far more resources. In short, the decision (for big companies) lies in the trainee themselves, the companies has no say in it, it's the personal choice of those trainees and they SHOULD know the consequences themselves. Gotta say, not all are 'fruitless' though. I remember NCT Taeyong was actually one of the worst skill-wise when he started training. He got casted when he was 18 with no prior experience in ANYTHING and so the trainers must've felt that he was hopeless thanks to his age (the younger you are, the easier to train in dancing). They advised him to quit, but he persisted and continued being a trainee. Seulgi and Irene as well, Seulgi trained for 7 years before debuting. Not everyone will get a chance like this of course, but just saying that there's a reason why companies won't outright force these trainees out of being a trainee.

[@yaaaan6763]

Also, if you think about it, would 'forcing' them to quit actually helped them? Especially for the specific example you're giving. If they can't even make the decision themselves regarding quitting, it is most likely that they would just find another company to try again cause as you said, the years of training would just be 'wasted'. In the end, the decision to quit the road of being an idol, or try in a different company entirely rest on their own decisions. Furthermore, I think it is far more cruel to quit because someone forced you to, much more than quitting on your own initiative.

[@henrymorales9584]

@@yaaaan6763Sir they are pretty much under contact to stay with them. Most trainees can’t afford to break the contract.I don’t know why you want to protect corporate interests that abuses and targets young girls

[@raerohan4241]

It's not really that straightforward though. Like, a company can consider a trainee as part of their debut lineup for one group, then decide not to go with them, but that trainee can go on to debut with the next group from their company many years later. It happened to a lot of famous idols. Johnny from NCT is the first example to come to mind. Heeseung from ENHYPEN is another.

[@waewae]

​@@henrymorales9584 Respectfully, I think they were just trying to tell us how these things work. I actually learned something new from reading what they said.

[@melisacaceres8740]

The amount of girls that ALMOST debut in SNSD is painful. All SNSD members trained for years, since they were kids and so did the other trainees. Just thinking of how they must've felt after watching their friends and fellow trainees debut and become such a legendary group, hurts.

[@mavenism]

right :(( huh chanmi's journey js just so sad

[@cplova333]

Seohyun's best friend didn't make it into the group

[@BaejinRBLX]

​@@cplova333her parents didn't allowed because she's still young at the right? cmiiw

[@rouroume7085]

There is soyoung with her rich background got it easy

[@netrosales9584]

​@@rouroume7085easy for you to say that

[@hel2727]

imagine how they feel seeing someone debut after like a month 😅

[@mehhhii]

that was for riize shotaro - who was a good professional dancer in Japan. nct chenle - he was a really good singer from a young age... probably because his family was rich too he got chosen personally by SM.

[@Baniii1001]

There's jaehee too (just three months) but he is SUCH an amazing singer I'm glad he debuted (from nct wish)

[@mehhhii]

@@Baniii1001 in the end. Sm entertainment does priotize vocals and talents rather than only visuals 🤧

[@Baniii1001]

@@mehhhii yessirrrr honestly I'm glad SM keeps the standard and isnt stooping low for popularity

[@pyhcharlie4058]

​@@mehhhii Chenle's billionaire family probably pay sm to let him debut💀💀💀💀New gen idols who debut these days are mostly rich kids or nepo baby💀

[@czenniesomnionce2119]

G-Soul who trained at JYP for almost 20 years before he finally left in 2015:

[@the_goldengirl]

Wtf 👁️👄👁️

[@Starlight06]

20 years????😭😭

[@yamicivetta5252]

G-Soul yeah it was horrible

[@NAKOYAH]

bro i would just quit everything after that😭why waste their time?? i really dont get it

[@Emmie1]

Dayum, even the education system doesn't last that long 😬

[@chiedzawith2ds]

Probably how Miyeon felt when she chose to leave YG.

[@miggymigz9242]

Imagine training for years, having a good debut, a successful comeback, then your group is put on hiatus and eventually disbanded just cause your company doesn't care enough to protect one of your members from being bullied by knets.

[@awesomekboy340]

🎶 we are pristin 🎶 They were my first ults in kpop, after what happened to the group despite their success and what happened with Hanapia made me lose all faith in the kpop industry and start to see groups and comebacks as projects. if the companies struck gold they will continue to provide support, and when the project wasn’t received as predicted the companies will cut their losses and disband or stop supporting their groups

[@miggymigz9242]

@@awesomekboy340 I don't even know why they couldn't just continue with 1 member short. They had 2 members from freaking IOI, their cb was successful, and they were winning awards. I don't know what Pledis was thinking on putting the whole group in hiatus then just disbanding them once the gp forgot about the girls.

[@iam-felixswife]

loona

[@seungminnieez]

@@awesomekboy340i miss pristin so much and they literally lasted for a year

[@pikachu7572]

I mean this is currently happening to nj and fromis9 and happened to gfriend simply because they wanted to debut new ggs

[@hana3703]

The fact that you also HAVE TO PAY while being a trainee adds up to the pain of those who end up not debuting.

[@KawaiiKermit]

Depends. A lot of companies give you an allowance unless it’s a super poor company. Mid sized companies give allowances usually and the trainee debt isn’t too bad if the company name is well known but that’s what everyone who applies knows and it’s on them. It’s written into their contracts exactly what to expect and they sign anyway and usually, it’s more for the chance at being an idol than being a well balanced artist

[@dilpreetkaur557]

Not YG

[@ua0412]

Xiyeon Pristin, trained for 10 years. Joined survival show, debuted but the group disbanded after a year and a half.

[@onlyfacts1239]

You should only train for 3 yrs max because agencies always have their eyes on the kids they want to debut and if you're not getting the attention for 3 whole yrs its a sign entertainment industry is not for you.

[@guessimintoblondeandsaltybrats]

But there's bangchan and someone from twice as well that trained for 7-8 yrs

[@onlyfacts1239]

@@guessimintoblondeandsaltybrats They are exceptional cases... And if you start young like some trainees start training since their infancy so there's lot of room for your improvement. But if you start around 18 or 19 and if your trainee period prolongs up to 23/24 and yet there's no news for your debut then leave

[@audreenc]

​@@guessimintoblondeandsaltybrats. JYP had bigger plans for him. One would wonder why would JYP put so much faith in one trainee but I think he really did. He let Chan decide his own group members, let him decide the group’s name, let him draw the group’s official logo, let’s him manage the entire musical and management aspect of Stray Kids, let’s him say things on Vlives that other idols might not, let’s him spoil major songs without repercussions and many more. All these things are UNHEARD of in Kpop groups, specially from the big3. Chan is extremely talented, there is no doubt about it. He can rap, dance, sing VERY WELL, can make amazing music and most of all fits JYP moral standards perfectly. He has great management skills as well and is great at deciding multiple things. I think JYP had already planned to make a group around him and let HIM handle the entire group like he now does with Stray Kids. JYP knew his skills extended beyond just music and didn’t want to waste his potential by putting him in GOT7 where the boys barely have freedom in their music and management process. Everything is decided by the agency. So I think these things were the reason Chan didn’t debut in GOT7.

[@chixkgoddess8499]

Ningning also trained for a long time before debuting with Aespa.

[@zreeragkn]

yea, Jihyo from Twice made her debut on her 11th year , after 2 cancelled chances for debut.... that's the kind of will power that makes you a fan ​@@guessimintoblondeandsaltybrats

[@outerspacepanda2642]

Then they debut teenagers who can’t sing solely by their looks and innocent charm

[@ivckrxs118]

Fr like imagine training for 5-10 years and then the kid whos only trained for a year debut before you

[@meh7497]

And then chaebol kid can just pay their way in😅

[@ApplezOi]

There's a chaebol idol? Who?

[@Agoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

@@ApplezOiI think it’s the new rumoured black label girl group

[@taylorg2320]

​@@ApplezOithe one in the new YG girl group that includes Ella Gross is famous for having a chaebol trainee, I don't think we know her identity yet though! There's another famous chaebol trainee in HYBE right now who's set to debut with the next girl group!

[@chimchimsjamkookies4242]

​@Agoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat it's not a coincidence that a lot of below average idols are rich af.

[@oqp489]

U must be new to kpop! Kpop used to be a work for RICH connected people back then. SNSD sunny is connected to leesooman from SM. There’s plenty of idols who come from rich families

[@MysticTunes1]

I trained 2 years in sm and 1 year in hybe now I am in yg but I had to leave school and I hope I debut bc I haven't learn anythinf for the past 4 years 😢

[@NuraisyahAbdullah-so5sn]

Waaah you're in YG? Why don't you try other agencies that might debuting a group as soon as possible?

[@Heyitsgeorgiaxs]

That’s basically life. You’ll see people who completed their education to earn a degree for the job but never get hired but sees someone else who didn’t finish school or only finish high school getting the job . It’s called knowing people or sell urself out like not what you been taught but what you skill at

[@Sora_Mango]

And the worst will be if a trainee only debuts because of their visual...

[@mehhhii]

That's actually wild... No talent for singing at all is really bad

[@BrianCarlo2023]

Well to be fair visual is recommended for being an idol. Otherwise you should be a top notch vocalist, rapper or dancer.

[@WinniePooh33]

​@@BrianCarlo2023Yikes

[@sakuriyinn]

​@@BrianCarlo2023 looks can be fixed easily. Most kpop idols are pressured into getting plastic surgery by their company.

[@stansvtforclearskin]

fans wanting young trainees to debut instead of debuting 21+ idols who clearly is talented and trained for 5yrs+

[@JenHen-di6rc]

there are some under 21 that are amzing idols

[@AreejTanveerisOnceArmyMoa]

God Jihyo was trained for 10 years

[@quanruism]

but imagine training for so long just to get kicked out for the dumbest reason 😭

[@rihnathebaddest9117]

Ik Soojin

[@jenniebearxx]

Garam and soojin like the people that got the kicked out sre jealous

[@oqp489]

@@jenniebearxxgaram was literally in the kpop industry for a week or two. How tf u missing her already

[@cuetzen712]

Well, at least they get to debut but they blow up their chances for doing stupid things. If i were a trainee who didnt get to debut and see someone debuted doing stupid things, i should have debuted instead. You blow up your own chances, you took that debut spot from all other trainees that could have debut but you didnt treasure it🤷🏻‍♀️

[@jenniebearxx]

@@oqp489 when did I say I’m miss her tf?

[@donjiedonjiedonjie]

I wonder why those trainees are very loyal to the company they're under.

[@user-fu7ln9ch3q]

Jihyo:👁👄👁

[@hannah2546]

Daniel from Iland. I know that he didn’t trained for 10yrs but that dude literally joined many survival to be a kpop idol. But now he just enjoying his life

[@callmegale]

Gong Seung Yeon trained under SM for around 7+ years. She was initially set to debut with f(x) but she didn't make the cut. Then, she continued training with Red Velvet but by that time, she already lost her passion for singing so she quit and left SM. eventually, she debuted as an actress. She's TWICE Jeongyeon's older sister.

[@steakoncearmyengene9326]

Imagine you trained since 8 years old, now you're like 20+ and seeing trainees younger than you who trained shorter than you debut

[@swateeroopasahoo1468]

it's reminds of r u next jiwoo and chanlee

[@steakoncearmyengene9326]

@@swateeroopasahoo1468 they didn't debut aren't they?

[@swateeroopasahoo1468]

yes they did not debut..both are most talented trainee from that show@@steakoncearmyengene9326

[@swateeroopasahoo1468]

@@steakoncearmyengene9326 yes they didn't debut and actually they both were most talented trainee from that survival show

[@steakoncearmyengene9326]

@@swateeroopasahoo1468 that's messed up

[@Lilacpallete]

And even after debuting ,you gets cancelled for (fake) bullying rumours.

[@_.Haerinism._]

Ga-ram 😢

[@haseulsluckycharm288]

It's just always rich kids that paid their way to debut...

[@KawaiiKermit]

Some aren’t rich but it’s way more common now however when K-pop was in its earlier stages like 2000s, kids would train and move to Seoul alone for the only purpose of getting money for their family. It’s sad how these idols don’t necessarily have the skills to be professionals but their parents have the money to fake it until they make it

[@haseulsluckycharm288]

@@KawaiiKermit I'm not talking about 2000s idols but half of 2020s idols are on that.

[@brittjay9549]

Honestly I'm not saying this isn't true but its actually more rare than you think. Most of the time when knets find out you're a nepo baby they constantly ridicule you and say to your face you don't deserve your opportunity. Even Anton from riize was criticized to no end by them bc his dad is a producer, he finally said "born this way by lady Gaga"

[@cranburrey]

​@@brittjay9549It isn't rare, but very common. Being a trainee is very expensive so ofc those who come from wealthy families would last long enough to debut compared to those who don't come from wealthy families

[@kiretorres8270]

Did ya'll know that Jihyo's (Twice) trained for 10 years before dubuting. Her journey to success is nothing short of awe inspiring. 10 years of perseverance and hard work that could have or could have not been rewarded. And she was so determined to do it that she made a very long and successful career!!

[@em_hannie]

tbh this is why some parents don't allow their kids to go and become a trainee because it's risky, but I mean that's not the worst part, the main problem is that trainees, especially the ones from overseas, if they trained hard and didn't debut at last, I think someway somehow It'll affect them in school and their future, sure, you can be an independent artist but it's hard. you pretty much can't catch up in your studies once u become a trainee as practicing as a trainee basically takes up your entire day. That's why there are not much of people who actually goes to become a trainee, but I'm pretty sure A LOT of people WANTS and has or had a dream to become a trainee and debut.😢

[@bubblebathmoo]

THATS SO SADD 😭😭❤❤

[@LuvieIrene]

Ik 😭

[@yangizabeth8233]

I would have open my twt account and spill every secret of the company

[@jeffysatur]

THISSS AHAHAHA

[@KawaiiKermit]

You’d get fired and sued into oblivion and lose the lawsuit. Your contact has NDAs written into it so if you tried this, your family would be financially destroyed by the lawsuit the company would have against you. Korean laws are tight and they love over punishing people

[@yangizabeth8233]

@@KawaiiKermit people will worry about the bigger evil

[@cattogato]

then there's people that haven't even trained for a year but debut 💀

[@Jiafeiinyourarea]

No cuz imagine you get to debut and your company kicks you out as soon as there are false rumors about you .

[@trusfratedsoul]

And then some people who don't know how to dance, sing, rap debut bcuz they got VISUALS. It annoys me how some fans go, " BuT ThEy aRe iMprOving " BRUH wtf i will do with someone who is still improviNg when i got other trainees that are ready to debut and got the skills!

[@vientae07]

literally the situation that happened in runext

[@Hobiemyhubby]

This. I've never praised an idol who is improving WHILE being in a debuted active group like the point of being a trainee is that should be your time of improvement, while other trainees out there who are already on their full potential being wasted away

[@trusfratedsoul]

@@vientae07 It also happened in my teenage girl. I stopped watching the show in the middle bcuz of how ppl were constantly voting for the PrEttY ones. Even 2 judges, aiki and soyeon called out the unfair voting system. The kim yooyeon situation pissed me off so much.

[@WinniePooh33]

Aka Kendall from that intentional YG group

[@cranburrey]

​@@vientae07 Never put your trust in groups from survival shows. Like literally look at Kep1er...

[@rarynizz]

This is how villains exists

[@rayanebenabid1046]

There was a girl who trained extensively until the age of 22. Her company initially decided to debut her, but later they opted for a reality show to select debut members, and despite making it to the final stage, she didn't succeed, she then left the company and sadly shortly after that she self-exited.

[@junghara4283]

Is that Sojin from Kara Project?

[@sakuriyinn]

What does self-exited mean ?

[@tatafromthehood5573]

Thats so messed up :(

[@Fav.ze.]

​@@sakuriyinnI think she did suicide

[@sakuriyinn]

@@Fav.ze. oh that's stupid. Not suicide but the term "self-exited"... So we're really gonna make any term up to censor the word suicide. There's no beed to tone it down. Suicide isn't something that should be toned down. First "unaliving oneself" and now that... Thank you for the clarification.

[@avyluant9416]

me when i watched those produce shows, seeing good trainees being eliminated and then never hear from them again. you might get lucky if they have an id account but then that's it. it's so sad seeing them go train and for the ones who really wanted to debut or have great talents, just grow out of it and leave the entertainment world completely

[@jeth898]

+ the debt😭😭😭

[@gabbyalivio5692]

natty 😭🖐️🖐️ im so glad she finally debuted & is w a group that’s gaining traction 🥹🥹

[@aiai2547]

its unfortunate😢 i stan an idol that trained for 17-18 years and finally debut, and im so happy for him!! but i hope 10 years is a max for trainees😭

[@Lucid.24]

Who?

[@christiane548]

I wanna know too🥺

[@n0tyourLovaa]

This is definitely relatable to the SMrookies girls (mmc line up) especially koeun who literally trained for 10 years in SM just to not debut with aespa cuz the concept didn't fit her (I guess) same thing also happen with Hina who already in the debut line up but got changed cuz she also didn't fit aespa AI concept....

[@_.Haerinism._]

They have other options like modelling and acting if they don't debut..

[@zacheryjequinto7259]

The story of Ahn Sojin is super heartbreaking. She had unfortunately unalived herself after being a trainee for a long time and being close to debut but never achieving it. After placing 2nd on Kara Project she jumped off a hotel being unable to secure debut. She viewed it as her last chance to be an idol after sacrificing it all with the disapproval of her parents. And feeling like she has lost everything, she unfortunately committed self unaliving.

[@thedemonwhopossessedateez9425]

SMROOKIES GIRLIES IN MICKEY MOUSE CLUB HOUSE :

[@xfifina]

then some pretty girl who can't sing wins a show and gets the fast pass to debut

[@heartyi]

every korean survival show:

[@legendkoala380]

And then a girl with face card who only trained for 1-4 months debuted instead of u who trained half of your life

[@afrin78815]

They do hard work and gets nothing it's really hurt😢

[@MommaSlider]

Billlie's MoonSua😭😭 Literally trained almost 10 years in yg, and was even presented as a "future 2ne1", super talented, left the company, trained 2 more years and debuted in Billlie, and just doesn't get the recognition she deserves. She could've even joined bp, and imo, she could've been the most talented member.

[@shellyolson]

Ik this might not be much compared to the other idols in the comments but there was a girl called Minyoung who almost debuted with Twice. She was a trainee for 6 years and had exceptionally good vocals, like perhaps even better than twice's vocal line. She failed to make a debut in 6mix the year before and failed to do good in sixteen because of that. She has a KZbin channel today and is called myssong. Please support her ❤

[@yiren1432]

Yeah it really hurts. I was trainee in Sm for 5 years but i left bc i becamd mentally and physically unstable. I didnt get my period for 2 month and i was scared. My mom made me leave She thought i was gonna die if I continue.

[@patriciakyledones461]

That's why, for all it's worth, beomhan took his debut with his own two hands and made it happen

[@Lucid.24]

His only problem was that he exposed too much, that is not allowed in any company.

[@its_foi]

I heard that in KPOP industry, especially in the big 3, the managers forced you to be desperate after a couple-few years of training. There’s one case that shook me: they would give trainees the contract with offers of free plastic surgery, and be a star that passed away in secret.

[@KawaiiKermit]

What used to happen (still happens but less bad) is especially in SM, if you made it to debut lineup, every member would have to get surgery. If you didn’t want to then you’re cut from debuting. They wouldn’t tell you WHAT surgery you’d be getting they’d just tell you when you and your manager should be ready and you go and get it. That’s why a lot of big company idols have to delay their debut bc of surgery mishaps but it’s “health reasons”. You can also opt to get surgery and it counts towards your trainee debt if it’s not a huge company. Majority of NCT if not all of them had to get surgery before debuting, it used to be a thing at SM where the final hurdle to guarantee your debut was to allow them to go through with changing your face. It’s terrible. But gotten slightly better now

[@Nadiaputriangginita]

the gatekeeping of Kpop industry is wild 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@Princess-dq2jb]

Honestly trainees should be treated like athletes that sing until they are put in a debut lineup so they can remain “normal” lives till debut

[@ArchanaKumari-kr2sz]

I would be so happy just being a trainee , and learning what I like , seriously I would still be appreciating it because, I would be training for my passion and love for music not for fame

[@rihnathebaddest9117]

But imagine not having your talents appreciated and then u get someone who just trained for like 3 months and thier debuting

[@xwzxg]

They are trained for their dance skills not singing. You could take vocal lesson if you love music without wasting your time with hectic schedule and strict rules from the company

[@br3953]

Yeah, if your family is rich af

[@rihnathebaddest9117]

@@br3953 true

[@ccsbm208]

Then sign up singing and dancing lessons being a trainee you literally sing your life away you have to eat, sleep, breathe kpop to a point where it sucks all the fun out.

[@Froggie.no.1]

The voice fits you so perfectly 🤩

[@LuvieIrene]

Hahahha

[@courtneyreed2751]

THIS PART!!!!!! I always wondered why there isn’t more docu series on this because what is the reason!!! And why couldn’t u tell me sooner if so LMFAO I would fight someone as im being dragged out cause wtf 😭😭😭

[@lathavaratharajan5071]

Believe in YOURSELF, never remorse, something much better awaits you

[@RJ-vj9ws]

Especially after they practically sacrifice their high school years to train

[@izzat.k]

lee sangwon from trainee a 😭

[@btsexotxtskz]

Mashio and Yedam from YG though they made their debut but was soon enough to get kicked from the group after 2years theyr were the one of the longest trainee from Treasure ❤❤

[@joycea.7332]

They were not kicked out. They left themselves.

[@stelmaria2210]

Stfu, they werent kicked out, they left the group and company by themselves.

[@1b0y4me]

I honestly think about this every single day, especially since most of them were just children when they became trainees

[@areedayounas4081]

And you end up back dancer

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Being a stable kpop group in itself is already a challenge. The succesful one are like the 1% of the industry 😭

[@daynee26]

That’s why being an idol is not for everyone.

[@rozalorose]

And then there are ones who trained weeks and debuted. And i think there was someone in loona who was trainee for one day

[@TheIzaa77]

Oh my SMRG15 heart 😭

[@jeth898]

this is the reason why im scared😭😭😭

[@Z5Z5Z5]

are you a trainee?

[@vessg221]

Yup and then they end up debuting someone who only trained for not even a year 😀 (by all means it does not mean they’re untalented or don’t deserve it, it’s just a slap in the face for those with seniority)

[@graceclover8697]

and then seeing some that trained for a couple months or not even a year that got to debut🤡

[@albatross7269]

KOEUN and LAMI of SMRookies 😢😢..

[@machojordan.]

Talented trainees who train for years just to loose seat for a pretty under-knife face:

[@woniyeoui]

I think abt this all the time like how do they cope

[@rafiaislam3317]

It got them ten years of trauma💀

[@jakey9746]

They should be gaining popularity on their own before joining the company to train. In that case they had higher chance to debut since they already had a audience.

[@NuraisyahAbdullah-so5sn]

It's okay!!! You can use your speciality for other occupation!! You can apply to become a vocal coach or dance coach maybe,,or both? I think the most important thing is you got that skills that's all!!

[@hehestories]

Heo Chanmi almost made it to SNSD 😢😢

[@emillyroberts1908]

KOEUN SMROOKIES

[@enchantedsiyoon]

or to debut but fail :(

[@ZyrexShorts129]

illit would laugh at them they dont need training 😂

[@keiyeuhikari]

Nowadays kpop is all bout looks over talent. 😭😭😭😭

[@Scandiweasel]

Feels personal

[@Aloysius_OHare]

Only pain, they start as kids too so can you imagine the emotional impact that is

[@user-ws3kp9pd2f]

Yeah, and then there're idols who debuted after a year and even can't sing

[@JFlip27]

And they become part of the notorious Knetz that hate on every single thing idols do

[@illdisappeardontworry]

And those who trained for like less than a year debuted without proper vocal lessons, yes! Here we go, sunshine 😞

[@user-dr6dc4iw1f]

I’m sorry to hear it ❤ it seems that’s the nature of the beast

[@Onlysoraaa23]

Imaginee, i feel so bad for those people, btw i luc ur vidss

[@Cybarpolice]

For how many months have I been watching that YG is not taking people born in 2003 in online auditions. It is starting from 2006, so now YG will not take those people born in 2003. Please tell me ma'am, You Are my inspiration😢😢

[@kpopggfan2524]

20yo is a bit late to be a trainee

[@Breadkun_llll]

They r going or younger ones now

[@dushistaya]

It's already late 😮‍💨😔

[@K_RBY_o3o]

Children from 2000 to 2004 have no chance....(But the strange thing is that some combinations do not only have young people.

[@resebebe]

I think yg will debut a girl group after 7 years someone 20 or below that so it's not a good idea to join for debuting in yg if your just going to get training then it's a good learning entertainment unlike other companies

[@_jungjungie]

Got the extreme skill

[@Faerie__7]

If you think of the bright side, if they leave the company and go back to living normally, they'll be hella talented+

[@Faerie__7]

and trained professionally :DDD

[@jeonwonwooiloveyou]

*imagine you got to debut but in less than 1yr your group got disbanded* 💀

[@bubblethe]

I want stories from these ppl like what it was after they leave the amount of time they wasted here what they do after this like about all the emotions through this thing everything

[@ItzFxq]

Yeah. And then newer groups debuting without any actual talent. I feel bad. They’ve worked way harder and longer.

[@user-fo5zg7ew8c]

Keita from boys planet and yujin deputing after less than a year training

[@missj5013]

twice jihyo also trainee for 10 years

[@ginkiha8655]

Even if you do debut, it'll be like a different world since it's full of constant competition.

[@From_Uganda_]

Their parents be like: 👹🙎🏻‍♂️🙎🏻‍♀️👋🏻👊🏻💣🏌🏻‍♂️🏌🏻‍♀️⚔️🔫🏹⚰️