POV: you get DESTROYED by a $10,000 character in Diablo Immоrtаl | Asmongold Reacts

[@Taocnrut]

This is why ‘Pay-to-Win’ should be an official genre.

[@mandingolazer5540]

Nice coment hahah ,

[@z1mt0n1x2]

it already is.

[@kengetkamulos]

Is that profile picture a Durandal reference?

[@advanxedchair]

Have of heard of Diablo Immortal?

[@chadikhr7258]

@@z1mt0n1x2 He means it should be a genre listed by the company that made such game on their genre list instead of an mmo this should be called Pay to win MMO

[@sirstriped5233]

Fun game mode that people might like. Team vs Team vs Whale. Once you spend enough money you can be your own mini boss in PvP.

[@shootermacgurkin9507]

Maannn...I can see that coming down the pipe in the not so distant future...actually kinda surprised it hasn't happened yet tbh

[@Bos_Meong]

secret mode, when a whale enters the game, a secret mode activated. all of the players, including the whale teammate teams up to kill the whale.

[@nemuru4367]

​@@shootermacgurkin9507 This is possible in the game called Dragon Raja. In the guild if your leader is a whale. Prepare for either kill them like everyone of you in the guild vs your leader. or u get killed-

[@Tdawg-b2b]

That's an amazing idea actually

[@fondbeebboop9705]

the whales would love this too that sounds super fun lol

[@strong6574]

Asmongold: He's 44-0! Rich: 44-7! That's pretty good! *He doesn't need to count deaths, he cannot die.*

[@zackalvey6417]

Wow that's insane Rax looked like he stumbled into an area where all the enemies are too high a level for you to have a chance while Rich looked like he was returning to the starting area after beating the game

[@MrJohnledd]

Pretty sure the matchmaking is set up that way, so whales feel useful.

[@Walt_Chocolate]

@@Blahander more than likely, just like how players lord their skill over others (especilly with the "Git Gud") there are those who lord their money over others. Guess that means it's their game now.

[@Grannpappi.]

Raxx getting fucked up. Cheeks slappin left and right lol

[@bean_walker161]

@@MrJohnledd Blizzard has patented a system that pairs whales against FTP players in order to "encourage" the FTP players to spend money to get stronger.

[@aprilecotton2060]

@@Blahander looked fun to me, although I’m not a broke scrub. Keep complaining you won’t have time to make money and play with the cool kids like me. Go play some free to play garbage

[@sakke7104]

This is gonna be hilarious when all the people who paid thousands of dollars just to get ahead have to play a dead game.

[@bertiebassett84]

They won't care. If you have this sort of disposable income for a computer game, you are wealthy enough not to care.

[@PineappleBaconPizza]

They're gonna be playing only other whales lmfao. Then they're gonna get mad they aren't destroying kids as easily as they are now. Then they might start complaining about other whales who spend more than them 😂😂

[@Ahrimane]

@@Keldiur That’s true. It’s the video game equivalent of “keeping up with the Joneses” I’ve had clients who spend tons of money on cars and country club memberships all while the IRS is threatening to put a lien on their house because they are in so much debt and can’t pay their taxes.

[@miilodude_8529]

@@bertiebassett84 The people that can spend thousands of dollars if they're not streamers are upper class or upper middle class, i'm amazed on how these people just waste millions or thousands of dollars into nothingness for just a dopamine rush into videogames in general, those amounts of money are just super important in real life for actual everyday living, for charities, making their own business, etc. but for these people's is just nothing, for them $10.000 it's like 10 bucks for us lmfao.

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

They just move to other p2w games

[@thelemoneater]

I never thought I'd think this, but blizzard has really done it. This genuinely makes league of legends look fun...

[@specificocean4176]

it is fun, just dont let it suck you in

[@grizzlymagnum3137]

@@specificocean4176 ofcourse, says while nearing 1000 hours into it

[@specificocean4176]

@@grizzlymagnum3137 how do you check the amount of hours, im very intrested in knowing for myself

[@grizzlymagnum3137]

@@specificocean4176 I got an app for it but you can do a simple math in profile in the stats tap when you hover on the amount of games you played this season you'll find hours for each mode of play I'm not sure if you can see past season's but I remember mine cause I only started last year i finished the season with 569 and I'm almost at 400 this season

[@specificocean4176]

@@grizzlymagnum3137 oh well that aint gonna help much im pretty sure i was here since season 2 but thanks for the info anyway

[@Chakrashuriken]

Imagine giving $13,000 to the company that tried to ruin your life for their own profit.... even for content this shit is mindboggling

[@xaina222]

its only life ruining if you cant afford it Your mindset are completely different if youre rich.

[@dbrzz6487]

His life must be pretty miserable if you ask me.

[@luxadia7310]

Ruin his life? This dude isn't even a blizzard fan, he doesn't care about the company, he just drop several thousand on any new mobile game that come's out and make the money in hours

[@Soeeasy]

@@luxadia7310 if you don't know who rich is better off not commenting

[@liamhogan4369]

I’d argue your life is ruined when you drop 13k on a game. Either you don’t have that to spend, or that amount means nothing to you, in which case you’re blowing 13g just to ruin other people’s days for an ego boost. Just simply burning the cash would be healthier for yourself, your opponents, and the quality of games as a whole. But what does my opinion matter? I wouldn’t spend this money even if I had it. So I’ll just practice what I preach. Terra Invicta is coming out soon, and Brigador is a great game that’s like playing a Daft Punk cover … with mechs.

[@mikeloeven]

I would love to see a group of hardcore hackers put together for the sole purpose of just trolling whales

[@DesertDog]

Blizzard would be all over them to protect their whales

[@smokeyoak]

needs a botnet like TF2

[@dl0l.l0lb]

Idk like I get that whales can be annoying but it’s not the whale you should go after it’s the company that allows shit like this in their games.

[@mikeloeven]

@@dl0l.l0lb Whales are often toxic personalities that bully people and if you can make one whale rage quit that's potentially 10's of thousands of dollars you take away from the company going forward so if you truly want to hurt them you chase off the whales and dry up their primary funding. You are killing two birds with one stone removing toxic bullies and damaging the bottom line

[@dannymoontattoos]

@@DesertDog you're implying blizzard is smart enough to combat an organized strike of average IQ individuals

[@zuriel4783]

I genuinely don't understand why anyone would ever play a game like this. There's zero point to playing PVP, it's literally just who paid more

[@hiryuumage]

Ok, I love the perspective difference... One guy: "I'm going to quit this game. It's ruined." Whale: "I LOVE PVP! *laughs in $$$$*"

[@Arby631]

Same guy LUL

[@generic120]

Repeat until only the whales are left in PvP and then the losers cry because they paid and still can't win.

[@blushingralseiuwu2222]

@@generic120 the best part is, Diablo immortal don't have cross server play. So old server will eventually become whale infested wastelands

[@XMAlek]

@@generic120 If only it was just for pvp, but they are already better for pve too (they just trash level 2 difficulty of lassal, so it's becoming a requirment to have ate least one full upgrade legendary gem) In one month game will be dead for f2p leaving only whales (because once you maxxed your stuff games becomes boring insanely fast as you can't freely farm)

[@hz2035]

thats literally the reason why they pay....you want to kill everyone else -> so you pay for power and then you enjoy it because it was your motivation for paying in first place...you want them to be sad? I mean I hate P2W...but dont guilt trip them. Blame blizz for making the game like that...

[@guilhermenove4737]

imagine these two players in the same room one laughing like a maniac and the other one depressed as fuck what a wonderful time to be a gamer

[@chadikhr7258]

just like reality

[@neuuser7071]

@@cardboardpig I just looked this guy up and he’s dating a famous porn star.

[@neuuser7071]

@@cardboardpig yep, most of what we see is a performance though.

[@ShinzoX90]

I mean one is a vanity driven sociopath fake smiling while getting off on knowing people are watching his stream.

[@nealc.6927]

If I was in the same room as him, I'd put a chair over his head and tell him to spend $10,000 on THAT!!!

[@jaxsonbateman]

This is such a weird mindset. If two people have a competitive game of something at an even level and with an even playing field, there's some satisfaction in the triumph there - you had no advantages or handicaps, and you came out ahead. This situation, where it's so pay to win that money invested almost certainly dictates the winner, is more akin to a rich person laughing at poor people because they're not as rich as they are - *except* that those 'rich people' act like it's the case of an even playing field. I mean, if I got 44-0 in a game where I know I had invested thousands and my opponents had invested practically nothing, my mindset would be "the money did that" - I wouldn't at all think to be proud of a competitive victory.

[@Midgar88]

Yeah and thats how the word *loser* got invented. Dont misunderstand these people really dont have rewarding lives thus they live in vr world to make up for it. Plus the other side of the coin for a streamer its really for views and having a laugh with the audience even it the joke is distasteful.

[@trentongardner2106]

​@@Midgar88ironically this is the funniest and my favorite type of gameplay to watch. Even though I cant be one myself. Its greatvto watch people who have tons of "skill" get wrecked by people who may have no skill at all. Makes the game seem more fair in my eyes.

[@aekaralagonisi]

Nah if you're playing this filth then the guy who pays has every right to shit on you and laugh at you.

[@jaxsonbateman]

@@aekaralagonisi They can claim to be good or w/e as a result of it, but only a very small amount of people would actually agree (basically them and any whales like them). I personally find that kind of mindset adorable. 😙

[@ThisMyhandlenow]

Stop using chatgpt dude, and write your own thoughts in the comments or you'll eventually have a hard time being able to think for yourself

[@hmmmmmmmmmm_]

You know it's fucked up when people have more respect for the hackers in your game than top players

[@NuDimon]

The fun part is, they could replace the weaker players with bots if they stop playing. Since they're so OP they won't see much of a difference. 🙃

[@connorjohn5013]

But the whole point of them spending money worth a brand new car is to stomp on people and flex. They literally that empty inside.

[@dantemacias2411]

@@connorjohn5013 bro isn’t it crazy how much the wealth is split? But it works.

[@AskAKill99]

@CK Lim never thought of that

[@muchospendechos]

That's actually not true, you can easily see a difference between bots and players and it would be not as satisfying as it is

[@GraveUypo]

@@muchospendechos that is so wrong. there's even a category of fake-multiplayer games that capitalize around the concept to prove you wrong.

[@alexlun4464]

After Diablo Immortal I was actually surprised to see people expecting diablo 4 to be any different. People cannot be this naive.

[@Tillymander]

It feels particularly bad because Raxx is pretty well known for doing some pretty highend pushes in GR's for d3 too. The guy puts in work and loves the series, sucks that the series doesn't seem to love him

[@WhatWillYouFind]

No amount of "work" can fix the stacked deck that is a PAY economy, your time is meaningless and your knowledge futile if the whale can drop 4 to 6 figures.

[@jaroslavsvaha6065]

The series would love him back, if he payed lmao

[@bangrojai]

He is playing in wrong pool this time....Rich Asian Chinese wouldnt think twice to spend 100k US $ for hegemony in big pool named Diablo Immortal. They literally would stampede all across your pathetic character day after day.

[@earflower]

Love Raxx. Blizz should have gifted him 10k for all he's done for the D3 community.

[@wobblysauce]

Multiple chars... not a wasted day.

[@TheBackwardsLegsMan]

It's crazy they literally added a mechanic the prevents you from power farming, just so it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to catch up to people who spend. Not even just whales, even someone who drops a couple hundred has an advantage over you, and you literally cannot grind enough to overcome that. It's already impossible to catch up to a whale in most pay to win games, but I don't think I've ever seen such an obvious attempt to kneecap free players to keep the whales ahead. Wild.

[@malinowygarnek4620]

@@VAFranky You could get to whale level if the end game content would be stale, but that's never the case in those games because they always create new endgame content for whales so they spent more and more and you are just getting further and further behind them instead of getting closer.

[@Bizzozeron]

and that type of thing without money in the equation could be like a nice 'rested XP' to prevent people from burning themselves out too much. Too bad its the opposite

[@EcnomicSuicide]

What’s a whale?

[@T3RRY_T3RR0R]

@n30n And yet I had 2 legendary items drop in the same elder rift after 5 hours of f2p Should I hide?

[@SebThorson]

@@T3RRY_T3RR0R Who cares? F2p can only have 1-star and 2-star legendaries, and those are trash.

[@stavik96]

10:02 The people this game was made for. Down the line f2p will probably quit and they would have to add in bots to fill the enemy team, just make sure you give them real names so the whales don't realize the game is dead and will continue spending by also slowly making the bots tougher.

[@chaosdisc]

Honestly starting to hope cheating becomes rampant in Immortal PvP. Hope someone figures it out and steamrolls whales for fun.

[@dingledorf5615]

Oh it will happen, might get ya banned but you can just make a new account and grief the whales. Android games/apps are notoriously easier to hack than windows or Mac applications.

[@ElementalLeaf]

@@dingledorf5615 In case you dont know, there is no higher order for a company than protecting the whales. Good luck finding some way to grief them for more than 2 hours before they deploy an emergency hotfix and patch.

[@speakerboxxers3618]

@@ElementalLeaf idk Celtic heroes gets attacked frequently at the point where I just can’t play it anymore they can make the servers unstable and disconnect every 10 minutes

[@kevz2495]

@@speakerboxxers3618 He's talking about how companies protect whales. And then about how you'll have a hard time griefing in Immortal for more than 2 hours before it gets fixed. Celtic Heroes is made by a really small company in comparison, so hackers will get away with more because the company won't be able to fix things fast enough.

[@fabachso9184]

@ICameFromAsia ?? we talking about the same blizzard that ban waves every 10 months because they literally don't care about cheaters in any of their games?

[@grumpyoldwizard]

Dude, I remember when players who bought their character were ostracized. This should still happen.

[@Miranox2]

Blizzard will ban you if you even try it. The solution is to not play P2W games.

[@alltidtratt3564]

The worst thing is that it looks like a fun game pvp wise. What a waste

[@garpten7772]

@@Miranox2 Na you can still harass them, in blizzard or other games.

[@SantiagoJimenez-hh3is]

@@alltidtratt3564 yep it looks like a nice pvp game , kinda sad what the greed makes them to do

[@JimCarryz]

Now you just get invited to be interviewed on the biggest mmo streamer's stream to "bring attention" to the issue as if we don't know what the fucking issue is. This timeline is shit

[@miketatum9321]

I miss the old d2 4v4 duels when you had a a barb, Druid, Nec and sin on 1 team. So much strategy and skill in that pvp

[@joethestrat]

Elemental druid with enigma ftw.

[@makotroid108]

Huge props to Rax tho. He's an encyclopedia of Diablo strats, which makes his defeats even more damning on blizzard toxic p2w.

[@spawn9129]

Rax is a good dude

[@Toxicblackmambahs]

He doesnt even know what Debuffs are, and you says he's an encyclopedia lmao.

[@davidlee3107]

Hes crying about his bandages not working while his turrets are active. “Encyclopedia” btw

[@roelven1282]

@@davidlee3107 if you see rax's vid .. he comes to the same conclusion later on ;) . ... so shuss little man before you dump on an institution like Rax

[@self-parternerd8661]

- Very true! Very sad.

[@gwynbleidd7177]

I love how every whale player is so obnoxious and think they're amazing. These are all the kids who got crapped on in games without it, so being a while is "their moment". Its like every kid who downloaded aimbot on Counter-Strike.

[@DrErikNefarious]

Take the money away and they're nobodies

[@XSpamDragonX]

Same kind of people that make War Thunder almost unplayable by just playing broken reward vehicles and abusing "quality" map design.

[@PentaHousen]

I mean they are worth more than you, because they dropped money ;)

[@garytsang5673]

That is how real life works man, the sooner more people see this, the better and less damaging as a whole that we can get out of this. Rich and powerful people in real life doesn't even bother you, they won't buy out your food, your cloths, maybe they will buy out your homes, if you live close to town. but if you live far away, most would leave your alone. Imagine there is any crisis of any sort that creates essential item shortage for real. Then those 'whales' would go after your food, your cloths, etc... Then you will see you have no chance, just like in diablo immortal, if not worse. Those 1,000 pop a day for gems would be a bid for your food.

[@Sirin2099]

@@BuckSnortx Not if you had good RNG and was born into it.

[@neednot22]

This happened in almost every mobile game that launch in Asia. I played RoX before and there's 2 guild that people called "whales only" and every single guild war everyone else just fought for third place because those 2 guild just bulldoze everyone else in seconds.

[@Liyern]

I love how theres a big "Recommendation" button when you get defeated. "Fork over more money to win"

[@kevz2495]

Yeah, I haven't tried PVP yet, but I'm almost positive that if you click the Recommendation button, it will probably say something like level up or improve gear, or whatever the case is, and then when you click it, it links you to the shop.

[@ramigilneas9274]

What I learned today: 1:Diablo Immortal punishes players who play a lot but spend no money. 2:It rewards people who don’t have much time to play but want to spend tons of money and annihilate all enemies.😂

[@queenbrightwingthe3890]

mobile games in a nuttshell

[@TheXtrategaxd]

@@yunsha9986 Pay to win is not excusable

[@DrGandW]

@@yunsha9986 No, just a decent game

[@dampintellect]

I can understand a catch up system in game to equalize players and have more people in pvp. But kneecapping xp gains on the people in front makes no sense, the bigger the xp gap the better for people just starting out as it can rocket them up.

[@phadedlife]

@@yunsha9986 imagine reading what they said and resulting to this

[@TokiRoMorbii]

31:08 Just spend money in the game? Why? He already spent Money ON THE GAME. BACK IN MY DAY PAY TO WIN WAS: I BUY THE GAME, AND THEN I BEAT IT.

[@cambrasher3875]

Rich has reached his villain arch. Things have gone too poorly and now too well and now, he’s become a whale mmo supervillain.

[@arcadius3257]

With his own Joker laugh 🤣

[@zeejustin6]

i do enjoy how happy he is being the villain

[@kagemarushun7378]

Guy literally losing his mind as he destroys everyone

[@willenspillens6345]

on the other hand he claims to make an example for how bad this game is and wants to warn other gamers with it. xD i find this very controversial

[@Dooger414]

@@willenspillens6345 The statement loses meaning when you hand the company in question a bank loan...

[@PopeMical]

Teaming up to kill a whale in PvP reminds me a lot of teaming up to kill a hacker. You are fighting a losing battle and even a single kill feels like a massive success

[@Lich_the_Eternal_Tyrant]

Nice pfp

[@intensellylit4100]

@@RuecianGray well, depending on the game, hackers can be countless and never get banned too

[@preoximerianas]

I was playing a Roblox game set during the Napoleonic Wars. I was on Russia and there was a hacker on France that would run faster than anyone else, Sonic levels of zooming. He didn’t even shoot, he would just run around with an axe and annihilate people. He’d kill you faster than you’d even be able to react. I was the last Russian alive and he was the last French. We were basically swinging at each other, I was trying desperately to dodge. My musket was out of ammo, I just had the bayonet. But then the hacker was running at me, we both made contact. But he died and I was barely alive, another swing and I would be dead. It easily became one of my favourite gaming experiences. Happened years ago yet I can still remember it. Nothing brings more joy than being able to kill a hacker and having chat blow up with people both in shock and excitement.

[@tortillatime401]

9:30 The sad thing is, no one had this much fun playing Diablo 4.

[@CunnilingusVolcano]

Simple solution: if you don’t want to spend leave the game. Let the whales 🐳 fight each other till they finally get pissed off because they can’t be the biggest whale. Game dies “The End”

[@f687sNFM]

Then new p2w game comes out, f2p players get farmed, company calls it a success, moves onto next project

[@f687sNFM]

@@QuackSus i mean, thats all they care about, fast money

[@Raghetiel]

The problem is, game won't die because whales keep it afloat. And as long as those games are profitable, they will keep popping up until there's nothing else

[@donjeff7211]

Ive been watching rax for over 2 years now and i have never seen him this upset not even when he lost his newly lvl 70 hc monk to game crash. this is just sad ...

[@ZveitZeroZt]

9:31 Literally blizards reaction when the $$$ rolls in

[@metamax77]

Love how the first guy says the pvp is “ruined,” like it wasn’t broken in the first place 😂

[@Banana_Zach]

Working as intended. Whales have fun, everyone else is whale food.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@Banana_Zach Don't understand why people can't see something that obvious. Are they just in denial? Are they really that stupid? Are they suffering from Dunning-Kruger so badly that they think their skill alone can beat the whales?

[@Impervious11]

Also the fact that they play it anyway, as if they're incapable of finding a different game where they don't get destroyed by p2w players.

[@kevz2495]

@@Impervious11 To be fair, that first guy, Raxx, is mainly a Diablo streamer. Like, insane hours in D3 and D2R. So of course he's going to put in a lot of effort into Immortal, so that all his viewers can see the endgame before they invest crazy time in it.

[@NotNewButYork]

The server paragon thing is nice! It ensures that even the most dedicated player can't simply outlevel the whale.

[@asinglebanana]

The paragon thingy is there to help stabilize the power level (combat rating) in a server. So "hopefully" everyone is on the same playing field. Because in MMO, being early is very advantageous. The latecomer needed that XP boost to catch up to the early birds.

[@fabledmelon3535]

I thought the last guy was building up to "I'm gonna log out of my character and quit this game" but the poor soul just went to another character lmao

[@senanur1983]

Yap he is just giving more people to get scammed by Blizzard. Should have uninstalled the moment he got raped by the whales.

[@gaysfortrump2024]

he's a rat trapped in kotick's maze

[@ultimaxkom8728]

Addiction and or established audiences loss-aversion. I guess it was mostly due to the latter with a little bit of the former in the mix.

[@caseycoker1051]

Jeez, seeing Rich just decimate as a whale and enjoying himself so much was pretty demoralizing not gonna lie.

[@kurlykrenins]

dude looked pathetic

[@ugotdestroyed4227]

It was obviously a Performance

[@Ghenesa]

This guy is hardcore diablo3 player, a really good one. DI shattered his dreams :)

[@Drazicist]

Anyone that plays that game gets what they deserve. When you do business with a thief don't be surprised when you get robbed.

[@fmg9666]

+1

[@lasertaco1452]

Yeah this video is giving me the *Surprised Pikachu Face* vibe

[@youngchristopher14]

Exactly... Imagine playing mobile games on your PC anyways LMAOOO

[@raymacz1922]

Epic comment

[@JoJoJo20233]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@stalker1366]

theres a big difference between spending some money on a cool skin you like in game you like. with devs you support. (which that itself kinda ruins games as progression is now a forgotten word in most FPS) but this? this is insane . .

[@wolfmayner6274]

@@francesco8000 Same here. I'm not ashamed to say I've probably spent around 300 dollars on Apex Legends over three years in order to get some really cool legendary skins for my characters, plus the wraith heirloom knife, but none of it affects gameplay at all. It isn't that high of a price to pay considering I've gotten close to 1,000 hours out of the game, which is about 9x the length of Elden ring, which is a full priced $60 game, so if you factor in the time, the amount of money I've spent on Apex per hour is actually less than the vast majority of full priced games. There's a huge difference between F2P with paid cosmetics, and pay to win garbage like this game.

[@lycanthoss]

@@francesco8000 yeah I feel like genshin isn't even this bad. Just buying a few blessing of the welkin or whatever it's called and doing all the free events is enough to get you quite a few 5 star characters. You don't even need the 5 star characters unless you want to do high level abyss runs and even then you could probably make a good 4 star team by now. You can get plenty of 5 star characters without spending any money, but with Diablo Immortal? You might not get 5 star gems even after spending thousands? This is just sickening. I hope this causes the EU to take action.

[@cafelatte1124]

Let's be honest here, if it looks better than D2/D3 on paper in terms of sales, Wyatt Cheng is going to have a pat on the back and a huge bonus from the HQ. And the P2W cycle is going to continue. It really wouldn't matter if the community or these big streamers are throwing bunch of shade at Blizzard right now.

[@wolfmayner6274]

@@cafelatte1124 You're absolutely right. Once a company like Blizzard reaches the size that it does, they simply abandon their roots in favor of embracing the lowest common denominator in gaming, and catering to the most casual whale gamers that there are. It doesn't matter that their entire core fanbase has already abandoned them, because there will be thousands of doofuses and streamers like Rich Campbell who more than make up for the dozens of fans who leave them behind. There will never be another 10/10 game like Starcraft 2 to come from Blizzard ever again. It's all going to be gacha mobile dogshit from here on out. Indie games and independent studios are where all of the real gems in gaming are now, aside from a few studios like FromSoft, for instance.

[@lovableairheadmile6809]

@@wolfmayner6274 well that is probably because rts won't make them as much money as this p2w bullshit

[@DownhillPlague]

To “ruin” pvp in a pay to win game is impossible. It’s designed in the game to act this way. It’s not ruined, it’s working as intended.

[@Kastellium]

The game lives up to its name. If you spend a house on your character you become a true diablo and you become immortal

[@Walt_Chocolate]

We all have a little D in all of us

[@None38389]

I don't know where you are from, but a house here cost 1 million $ at the minimum, and that is if you are okay with crappy houses.

[@RadicalW0lf]

@@None38389 100k per character, maxing 10 characters would be as expensive as a house

[@terrariku2010]

"The PvP in this game is ruined." Implying that Diablo PvP is ever good.

[@notpublic5908]

D2 pvp was fair. Based on gear found. Some classes were stronger. Not bad for the first iteration.

[@sergioq94]

Diablo pvp lul

[@phadedlife]

D2 pvp was great for its time

[@daniellacomb917]

Diablo 2 pvp was always laggy shit lol. And it was usually one guy beating the shit outta everyone else. how the fuck did anyone expect anything different. Especially on a game thats a lazy rehash if d3

[@terrariku2010]

@@daniellacomb917 That's an insult to D3. And I have no idea what the Hell these people are playing where the think the game is remotely good barring microtransactions. I never played D2, but between D3 and Immoral, D3 is far superior. Plus Grim Scythe is not a goddamn cooldown skill in 3. If I had known Necromancer lacked a melee Primary in Immoral I never would have tried them. And it felt like crap. What version is everyone else playing? Because for me, the PC version felt and looked like crap.

[@mariuslarrive6552]

Why would anybody, I mean ANYBODY spend hundreds of hours playing a game against other players, in which you can just pay to win ? If you’re dumb enough to do that, you deserve to be frustrated, period.

[@TheIceGambler]

You know, this might be fun for a bit. Then everyone leaves and it's just the whales playing. And then they will realize their money is worthless.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I would say they will then realize they wasted their money when it gets to that point but these people are so gone they wont even think like that. They will just start looking for the next game they can drop more money like that on.

[@cmillerpa33]

Until the big spenders are playing by themselves this is gonna keep happening.

[@Krondon-SSR]

o shit i wanna see that whales vs whales. Like if we'd let olympians do all the drugs they wanted

[@LordAlmanGrimm]

Even then these games would keep getting developed. they dont care about the guys that spend 30-40 bucks on the game. if theres guys spending 10000's of $ they will happily make a game for like 100 people

[@cmillerpa33]

I am thinking it is not worth 5 to 10k if u can't pick on the f2p players.

[@jkterjters]

@@cmillerpa33 weakest mindset imaginable

[@cmillerpa33]

The alternative?

[@solaryon8711]

"I'm considering stopping playing this game" - he says as if it wasn't painfully obvious from launch day that it was always going to be completely and utterly and shamelessly pay-to-win.

[@victorlenguyen3293]

I would absolutely love it if under the "recommendations" at 6:07 that shows up after someone defeats you, the game just redirects you into the cash shop with a credit card information section pulled straight up on screen.

[@spectate0074]

Recommendation: Upgrade your legendary gems :Purchase now!

[@practic4l349]

YOU SHOULD GIVE YOUR WALLET *NOW* 🌩🌩

[@gerryilu851]

Its impressive that they put in this much effort to make being a free to play player a pain in the ass in the end game. Imagine if they put this effort into the gameplay and quest designs.

[@slappytheclown4]

Because it's more profitable to make a game that only appeals to those who you know are going to drop 10 grand simply to be stronger than everyone else. They gain nothing from appealing to the players that have no intention of spending money. The only reason the game is "free to play" is to pull in a bunch of minnows for the whales to feed on that way they have a reason to actually spend money on the game.

[@DadBodFit]

People are sad because p2w PVP just mirrors real life and it's depressing..

[@Hanakooh]

9:30, that whale's hysteric laughter as he literally crushes the entire enemy team single-handedly.... its so fucking bloodcurdling

[@ViciousLamp]

Its almost as bad as watching that dude cry over a starwars trailer. Its just cringey af.

[@NathanaelManson]

It's disgusting and fatiguing, people like Rich is why we cant have fun games anymore, Rich just pays them to well.

[@ViciousLamp]

@@NathanaelManson I got the same cringe feeling watching him pvp as I did watching the dude cry over a starwars trailer, just pure disgust.

[@TheHeartThatRunsCold]

The reason why Rich is laughing is because of how absurd the power gap is, its an eye opening moment for him that really illustrated the power vacuum payers get.

[@nilsaduran9683]

🤣😂

[@emptyplacebo3238]

I’d like someone to clip that part of Rich laughing and show it to F2P players who even think they can compete in PVP.

[@preoximerianas]

@@dradamov Some people get a thrill out of being a cuck. They enjoy completely getting destroyed, not even failing or losing because it goes far beyond that.

[@korpen2858]

@@dradamov Badicted

[@ironheadedDoF]

@@dradamov Some people are masochists. And if they are a streamer, they still might get $$ from it.

[@rikashiguma8661]

tbh this is already normal in most of the mmorpg this days it's not surprising srsly

[@danielcavallarigoncalves7309]

I can't WAIT for D4 to be EXACTLY like this to crush the hopes and dreams of every Blizzard fan.

[@Dargoneth]

Someone in chat during the whale destruction wrote: "who said money doesn't buy happiness" 🤣

[@gideonros2705]

😂😂😂

[@AreteZoe]

What I love about these pay to win games is people don't realize it mimics real life. Welcome to the future buds

[@gideonros2705]

I have been searching your comment, hoping just one person would comment this. I was thinking how this mirrors exactly the Central Banking model. The developers are Central Banks, they setup the 'economic game', it's their rules, they print money out of thin air etc. They then divide the free money amongst their 'whales' who become monopoly players and wrecking everyone's else. The delusion of low spenders i.e, the middle class is that they can somehow win against a whale. But they can't realise is that not only is their labour being siphoned but also they are propped up by a ' 'secret investor', the Central Bank. Not only that you're competing against your employer, actual or potential.

[@bluntercanvas4257]

Remember when Blizzard went out of its way to kill twinking in WoW?

[@generationxpvp]

Jeeze that brings back memories….

[@jackvai2681]

ONE OF THE MANY REASONS I STOPPED PLAYING WOW.

[@laszloneumann500]

@@jackvai2681 i thought the reason u quit was that u sucked at pvp

[@jackbower9087]

@@laszloneumann500 that's why he played a twink, he sucked at PVP lol

[@jackvai2681]

@@laszloneumann500 NOT ME...I WAS ALWAYS VERY GOOD AT PVP...NOW, I'M A $$$...GOD...$$$!

[@Perkele_Itse]

I honestly think that games like this, and especially Diablo Immoral are starting to push governments into banning these games. But we are gonna see more and more of these before that happens because laws take time. Immoral is so outrageous it's not even trying to hide it and that's why I think more law makers are gonna see this shit on their desks.

[@omarvalencia8863]

Why?

[@thenecromorpher]

@@omarvalencia8863 Pushing the envelop of what should be acceptable to make what "it should be" the actual law.

[@davidm.schreckii1426]

But remember that ex government officials were some of the top heads over at Activision and/or blizzard and maybe some other gaming companies. Why do you ask? Homeland security! Anything to has to do online even gaming has some sort of official overheading supervision on top of it in the sense for searching for "terrorists" or whatever they deem a national threat I mean it was official the CIA admitted using Facebook into looking I to people's behaviors, trends, interests and what not to find these certain peoples. So it might happen yes but like you said it's gunna take many many more years unfortunately

[@mooncow1072]

Thats where you are wrong kiddo, big corp and goverments will see this as an easy way to make money and will allow these practices as long as it pays for their Ferrari's. Its time to wake up to the real world, if you are not rich, you are a peasent and 50 years from now we will live in an age where there is the filthy rich and the filthy poor with no in-between.

[@Perkele_Itse]

@@mooncow1072 You're completely wrong tho. Some governments in Europe have already banned lootboxes, and now 18 more governments are looking into it plus I think EU had something going on as well. It absolutely is changing as we speak.

[@kDenos]

I will never get why people play Immortals to just say "The Game is ruined".. cmon bro. Like literally its written everywhere its obviously P2W.. why do you even TRY to play it casually.

[@Rascacio86]

The one who spent $13k laughting so insane, looks like his first taste of ever first kill with some cheat.

[@kornshadow097]

Like mandark from Dexter's lab. Typical spoiled, rich evil villain.. A white kid who tosses money at things to win and then pretends money was not a factor...

[@mannybarba5382]

Love that my boy Rax is getting some Asmon recognition while he suffers in P2W land 😂

[@Barrythebarnabas]

A eagle talking about how they love PvP is like a man with a Glock saying how much he loves street fights.

[@GruppeSechs]

8:15 Ladies and gentlemen, we have found the evolved form of the level 60 WoW player who goes to Ashenvale to gank lowbies.

[@BeruCampos]

Incel Captain

[@thecoolestofthe834s2]

you forget that is completely normal now......

[@TeleologicalConsistency]

I can just imagine Rich's maniacal laughter behind the keyboard of that character.

[@zheliu4591]

you mean IPHONE lmao

[@mitigamespro8757]

@@zheliu4591 The game is on pc as well.

[@ironheadedDoF]

I can imagine Rich's laughter inside Blizzard offices, and California State Houses with the weak lawsuits.

[@sp1r1tm0lecule]

9:48 that laugh. I'm scared.

[@natalyst]

watching the rich guy laugh while killing people in diablo pvp was genuinely scary, it's probably just a bit but that laugh sent a chill up my spine lmao

[@branharak1331]

Serial killer level laugh

[@natalyst]

@@Banana-cc5rx damn really? that's even scarier, though i guess it's not unexpected, blizzard loves hiring psychopaths

[@musclestruts5032]

One of the up sides to streaming is now that I can visually confirm that whales are psychopathic bullies.

[@coldchillin8382]

I think I’ll sub to him. Seems hilarious

[@listlessviewer153]

That dude literally has a shitty couch and no decorations. Priorities right?

[@jean-pierrepolnareff9987]

Rich's laugh is my laugh towards everybody giving their money to whales on twitch

[@professorgoat1099]

Nice to see the "in combat" sht is STILL glitched horribly. Lmfao

[@_specialneeds]

The thing that depresses me most about this is that he (the guy who was laughing) didn't get there through grinding or playing the game, you just pump a bunch of money into it. The game aspect is no longer existent in the game.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Can it legally be called a game anymore?

[@JoeNerdShow]

@@mainstreetsaint36 In MURICA. yes

[@tomothybahamothy]

​@@JoeNerdShow and lots of other places

[@Nicole_Auriel]

With Diablo 3, all you could spend on the game was 60$ on release, after the AH was removed. In that game, every individual player was worth 60$ to Blizzard. Now, they're in a market where someone can spend 70,000 on a character, and be worth over a 1,000 people who just pay normally. Why would you cater to 1,000 people who don't pay when you can cater to each a-holes who spend out the wazoo?

[@zwan1886]

those people spending out that wazoo will only do it if there's 10,000 suckers who will line up to get destroyed in pvp. Just stop playing

[@707upsidedown]

Precisely the core of the problem. They can continue to exist by trading their credibility for short bursts of massive revenue, but will the consumer base ultimately let it last?

[@jarowan]

Indeed, and even better, if you get that single 70K whale, that's better than 1150 normal players at 60. If you charge for the base game (*cough* Diablo IV *cough*) AND add in oppressive P2W monetization, you can gouge both groups. We are living in the darkest timeline.

[@cc-dtv]

@@jarowan at that point, similar to gambling, literally taking up smoking crack as a hobby would be infinitely more enjoyable lmao these fucking people

[@SweetJP.]

that dude Rich Cambell laughing like an idiot. Me laughing like an idiot knowing that in no time, all he's gonna go up against is people that spent way more and he'll get destroyed constantly.

[@genesisone6725]

It's like watching a plankton trying to kill a whale.

[@siddhantbanerjee3328]

The only time in my gaming life that I laughed that maniacally was when I finally beat Malenia. This shit just looks gross to me

[@parker1594]

“Rich hasn’t even spent that much money, rich has only spent like 10,000$” what a sucker immortal players are

[@Banana_Zach]

Phase 2 taught me several things. One of which is this: in pvp if you arent having fun, you are the fun for someone else.

[@etsugin]

Remember when PvP use to be determined by skill and not by your wallet

[@coldchillin8382]

Even in the days of EverQuest in the late 90s, people could drop real money for gold and gear. Only difference is it wasn’t in game, but the same concept.

[@minnguyen4872]

then play shooting game

[@DarkToleSon]

That was the beauty of WoW back in the day.

[@leedex]

3:07 I bet the whale had fun and Blizzard love him as their customer 😂

[@doctorcis3510]

Rich laughing sounded like a Lalafell exactly, which is exactly who'd I'd expect to feel great whaling lol

[@Mogel1978]

Rich’s evil villian voice to that win is priceless. I’m dead.

[@MrZulu2607]

It is funny to think that the streamer probably steam rolls normally with having spent maybe 700$ and then gets pissed when he runs into a oil prince or whatever

[@bradjenkins2861]

The fact that this guy seems so defeated and destroyed that this is happening in an obvious p2w game is the saddest most hilarious part of this video. Not supporting Blizzard's ship sailed a couple months ago?? More like several years ago.

[@goodvibes9832]

This is the same dude that thinks pvp in this game has a high skillcap

[@slappytheclown4]

Yeah its hard to feel bad for a lot of these people complaining about p2w games. There's no way you don't know a game like this is going to be p2w before you start playing it.

[@NottuhKat]

Imagine getting that excited over winning with that kind of advantage. It'd be like getting excited over winning a chess game when your opponent only has a king and one pawn.

[@XSpamDragonX]

It's the same attitude as people who beat toddlers in Roblox.

[@mandingolazer5540]

Gastar 10k de dolares en un juego para sentirte bien, en vez de gastarlo en una terapia y dejar de ser manipulado por corporaciones , a veces es triste ver reir a un adicto.

[@thecoolestofthe834s2]

@@XSpamDragonX 1v1s yeah your cringe but dealing with an army of kids ruining the server? yeah thats some good shit to boast about

[@reznya2700]

I'm not in combat but I keep putting turrets down non-stop why am I in Combat? IM NOT IN COMBAT?

[@falcor200]

when you spend 40 dollars and you're looked at a free to play player we need to rethink wtf is going on in our community.

[@mikadsu]

Well like up to 60 dollars and you just "bought" the game. So in that sense I would consider it still free to play. But when you go above a normal game price your starting pay to win. Unless of course the things you buy dont affect the gameplay but are cosmetics, emotes or what ever. Have to remember that every f2p are there to make money. So instead of paying before you are guided to support the game and in worst scenario your lead to p2w and constant money spending. Month after month.

[@JumpscareRodent]

Watching videos on 1.5 and 2x speed changed my life. It saves a tremendous amount of time and you learn to understand it fast

[@naraiah994]

Those two perspectives are so amazing lmao

[@Enteric]

He forgot to mention that set items also are capped per Hell level. You can only get certain set items depending on if you are on H1, H2, H3, H4 etc. So therefore, you need to get to Paragon 100+ to get a full green set.

[@DanielNyberg7]

And they have a weekly cap... Smh

[@haihuynh8337]

What do you expect in a pay 2 win game? The idea is simple. If something can't be obtained with money, it would be obtainable with a lot of money.

[@chiefwubwub4199]

I'll save you all the time: dude explains how diablo immortal is so bad he is going to keep playing it. Saved you 33mins.

[@witheringhs7766]

thank you, your comment made me decide to install it

[@Zuka66]

your comment made me to invest 10,000 now

[@br1jspec]

The guy is in denial and really enjoying the game. Just imagine how much time he spends to do all this. I can"t even play more than 1hr during my work days.

[@hseanhill]

Finally we have the answer to how it feels to be the mobs in a t16 bounty run. Not sure why Blizzard felt we needed to have the answer to that question but now we know

[@LordLeeCH]

Raxx is an amazing D3 player. I have watched many of his videos. If this dude is hating, it is of note.

[@HaloLvl43Legit]

Honestly, you should have ratings (like in wow if you're gladiator, you shouldn't queue into someone lower than dualist ever, right?). This should be the same case only with brackets based around how much you spent on the game (like if you spend thousands of dollars, you shouldn't queue into someone with self-respect).

[@johndoe-de1db]

lol subtle roast there.

[@fuckyoutube4398]

It should just be capped stats or templates for PVP, but clearly Blizzard wants straight up P2W.

[@shadf7902]

If all that existed then the p2w couldnt flourish.

[@d0minican0milan0]

@8:50 watching Rich get 44-0 in pvp was the highlight of this whole video 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a great game.

[@plaguedoctor5657]

Watching him laughing like a unhinged maniac because he spent more money than others is actually ridiculously alarming. Now I understand who these games are marketed too

[@muddysky1464]

That maniacal laugh at 9:35 truly is a masterpiece 😂

[@Kitkat5335]

That is just how P2W games are. They put in the promise you can eventually become strong too, but fail to show how unlikely it is for even the whales to get as strong as they want. 10k, and that isn't even the best they can be. In games like that it just comes down to who spends more to be stronger. Played a couple games like that and it just ruins what could otherwise be a fun game.

[@Skilliard]

It's kind of sad because the PVP looks like it would be fun if it was actually eqalized, but Blizzard will never do that as long as people are willing to queue for PVP to get destroyed by whales

[@patricksusulin9335]

summary this game is not for poor people. people keep saying that this game will die because only whales play this game but didn't consider that there are alot of rich people around the world wo consumes stuff like this with little regard to their spendings.

[@Vikt0rian]

Last time I actually dealt with whales was on WoW private servers. And what was funny about it was if you were good enough mechanically on certain classes you could still beat the ever living piss out of them, because they were mechanically inept. Whales would usually be warriors because it was a Wrath server so you would get access to all talent points, and Warriors just have the best synergy across their three trees. But most of these players would just click bladestorm and think that that would win every fight, so when somebody knew how to disarm them, they wouldn't know what the heck to do. Many other little things would also factor into this of course. :P

[@GraveUypo]

i remember back in ragnarok online private servers were "donators" were basically the same thing as whales are now, but it had a heavily negative connotation to it so people tried their hardest to hide the fact they basically paid for cheats. because that's what it is.

[@since1876]

Don't worry, Diablo immortal learned from wow's mistakes and has since taken skill entirely out of the game. You just get the illusion of skill being needed because you might manage to beat a really hard NPC boss through carefully avoiding his telegraphed attacks. But don't be fooled, you have no chance against a p2w kid. In this game, skill rhymes with bunny.

[@since1876]

@Lost in the woods I've never played THAT game on a private server but on other ones the only way to get certain extremely over powered custom weapons and gear is to buy them. So for example, let's say you look at the best in game item that anyone can earn... Well, the owner of a private server might make that item be 10x stronger and cost you a hundred bucks to buy and it's only available in the private servers shop. It's stuff like that that'll happen in private servers.

[@slappytheclown4]

Pay to win on a private server? Disgusting, the whole reason I played them back when I was young was because I couldn't afford monthly subs to the retail version. Seeing how monetized everything is these days is so sad when you're at a point where private servers of popular MMOs are trying to charge money now.

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

*PvP = Pay versus Play* Pay has finally dominated a game entirely. He'h, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. :D