Poverty could push UK back to Victorian era of social divides - report

A report has warned that chronic poverty could result in the UK seeing the kind social divide not seen since the Victorian era.
A report by the Centre for Social Justice said COVID lockdowns were partly to blame for the situation.
The report found that just 40% of deprived households said they had a good quality of life, while the disadvantaged are no better off than they were 15 years ago, with their average wages stagnant since 2008.
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[@bingbonghippy]

Shoutout to Sky for cheering along every policy that has led us here

[@codstar3]

Quite correct, I would doff my cloth cap if I could afford the cloth to go on it.👚😉

[@snoopy63ify]

Exactly!!

[@hayleyanna2625]

Right?! Ridiculous.

[@daftgowk1]

Yep, Aussie Blowfelds. Minions reporting on the harm they facilitated. Sold their souls long ago

[@suzannel8926]

I blame the people who thought types like Farage wanted to leave the EU as care about British people, when UKIP started from the French born James Goldsmith, who changed his German Jewish family name to sound more British, and Farage just wanted to make sure the British economy stays closely linked with USA banks to keep people living in greed, debt and a permanent state of war, so he can sell his get rich schemes based on stock market gambling. Also because of the moron voters who chant the word lefty as an insult, for what's in fact caused by USA capitalism, and then they act all confused why even more happens of what they complain about.

[@trinkabuszczuk6138]

I’ve lived in Australia for 18 years. Each time I go back to my hometown in UK I see more evidence of social decline and poverty. Shocking. 😢

[@moosky7344]

My relatives lived in OZ for 13 years they weren't allowed to vote or access free health care even though paid taxes with their successful businesses

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

Try to take a look in poverty ridden ares in Australia

[@user-xy9vw7wv3o]

She's talking about the decline in the U.K not Australia, She's noticed it more in the U. K because of being away for a while.

[@trinkabuszczuk6138]

@@Stephen-lx9nm I know Australia isn’t immune to poverty. I was just saying the social and economic decline in my hometown is markedly noticeable in the 18 years since I left.

[@zaynemal5413]

Australia is full of English people and Irish settlers most left the UK because they are miserable and hate the state of the UK.

[@charliegirlize]

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer 😞

[@jubmelahtes]

And the "middleclass" is rapidly disappearing.

[@jjr1728]

@@jubmelahtes Good. There needs to be a greater divide. I'd prefer it if normies are sent to the cities and the vast wilderness areas are left for the wealthier set. It makes logistical sense and would improve the peaceful serenity of the countryside. The problem, imo, is dealing with the farmers whom have had a lot of acreage inherited through the generations. Some kind of compulsory purchase orders need to be considered. This should be in the making within the next 20 years in Canada, and hopefully 25 years in the UK.

[@ZafarIqbal-jl8yq]

It means this system suits the rich and powerful 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@robinmcara793]

​@@jjr1728laughable 😂

[@johnnotrealname8168]

The poor have gotten richer actually.

[@hiiiikun]

I am from Brazil but I went to uni in the UK and i always dreamed to go back and live there. After I visited this year though I was shocked at how my friends who worked full time jobs didnt even have money for heating in the middle of winter.

[@dcpete5475]

I lived in Brazil and the poverty corruption there is impossible to describe

[@KeithJones-yq6of]

They can still afford to vape and eat / drink out though.

[@adiintel1]

Still doing samba in the favellas? Over there?

[@dcpete5475]

The UK IS A TOTAL DUMP

[@sloeberdoet]

At least better climate and more fun than in Britain.@@adiintel1

[@exp-eri-mental]

This is literally happening. Houses that should be 80k going for 350k. Absolutely insane price hike for no reason.

[@Tarotjackpot]

It and has been worldwide

[@LilHazey2.0]

Seem to recall this happening before, didnt go down well…

[@nuudelz3711]

@@user-fq3pe5sg7qthey’re being sold, to corporations who are holding them.

[@luke8329]

​@@TarotjackpotI used to say it's going to be the first Global hyperinflation. I now know water is the universal leveling tool and the people have nothing left to lose. Once they realise this maybe then we can fix the many problems.

[@snakeplissken5480]

no reason ? try supply and demand

[@leeandrew6555]

It's almost as if Tories giving all our money to their friends and family through spurious contracts for over a decade was a bad idea.

[@T5Zplayer]

🥱🥱🥱

[@billybatts8283]

Funny, Labour done the exact same thing in the what, 15 years they were in power before... It's almost like it's a one party system of pantomime and paydays...

[@becky2235]

Exactly

[@sweeta17]

and dont forget to 1000s of stran*gers

[@ohno521]

And other countries for naff all In return , funny how rishi does well for himself but not for the country

[@saynotothemonarchy]

i came to the UK and i must say I was absolutely shocked by how run down and poverty stricken it was. 1st world country not

[@DrCuriensapprentice]

Explain how it’s not a first world country, where I live in the U.K. I never got the impression that we were less than first world.

[@saynotothemonarchy]

so much poverty@@DrCuriensapprentice

[@DrCuriensapprentice]

@@saynotothemonarchy there are countries that have a way higher poverty rate than us, poverty level is lower today than it was in the Victorian times (which the video was trying to make out we’ve gone to that stage).

[@benghiskahn3673]

@@DrCuriensapprentice Is that SERIOUSLY your bar? There's less poverty than the Victorian era? There's no need to worry about the state of the country until we're worse of than DRC or South Sudan? With great patriotic mindsets like yours, who needs external enemies?

[@BigJFindAWay]

UK is a 2nd world country just like US and Canada.

[@popcorn32145]

As someone living in the UK but not from here. The whole country feels like this... Old, run down, stuck in the past...Nothing seems new or nice...

[@geertstroy]

Totally agree...there is not a hint of modernity in the cityscapes. At best it feels like a tacky 1972 movie , desolate. In Romania I have seen new highest standard villas and reataurations with prime quality materials , looking rather like Austria or Slovenia or Germany , just showing a path up of ambition. The opposite in england...

[@Gph0367]

30 years of wage stagnation and rampant corporate profiteering, equals cost of living crisis!!!

[@patriciasanderson2171]

Mass migration for low wages. No surprise it’s a race to the bottom.

[@garyh1572]

Make that 44 years - the moment Thatcher got in to power . And the Tories have been in power for 75% of that time.

[@bmac9090]

Wage stagnation has been a thing for about 15 years and the current government. There was reasonable decent wage growth during both Thatcher and Blairs period. Albeit nothing like the early 70s.

[@antiwoke6888]

Wage stagnation goes hand in hand with Mass immigration of cheap labour !!!!!!!! @@bmac9090

[@DARKNESS66611]

​@@bmac9090The price of everything is made up and wages are made up money is not backed up by anything real. The world economy is like a time share

[@dub604]

I was going to say that the UK now looks like a developing country but it's not really developing so I can't.

[@thehumancanary131]

Look around...what is the difference between the UK and many 3rd world countries?

[@imprsk6729]

​@@thehumancanary131thats a huge huge exageration. Third world countries have none of the services and GDP of the UK...

[@jamesgravil9162]

It's developing backwards. Does that count?

[@bimbarossa]

@@jamesgravil9162 Devolving.... I think that's the term 🙂

[@dub604]

@@jamesgravil9162 👍😂

[@TheLiamster]

I saw this coming years ago and tried to warn everyone. I was so angry that Brexit happened when I was 14. I wasn’t old enough to vote but I remember talking my teachers and parents and telling them that the UK leaving the EU would be a massive mistake and have unintended consequences for decades to come. Of course, no one believed me at the time and now none of the once touted benefits have come to fruition and this once great country is in a dire state of decline. Brexit isn’t the only reason for the current status quo as there are a multitude of factors. It all boils down to the Tory government who has been power for nearly my entire life which is at best doing nothing to improve but at worst actively making things worse for everyone except the super rich. My hope for the future is that young people are becoming more politically active and are realising that change can happen. As morbid as it sounds, I predict that once the silent generation and baby boomers (the heart of the Tory voting base) die off that the Conservative Party will lose a considerable power as Labour and other parties win local elections.

[@jonconnell2613]

Great comment, totally agree. I can't see how hardly any young people these days would ever vote Tory and I feel bad for youngsters growing up in this nightmare

[@senguptasayn]

Absolutely correct.

[@kevinengland7444]

Brexit has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. The USA has tent cities. There is a housing crisis in Australia. Various major countries, including Japan, are either officially in recession or on the brink. What is happening in the UK is post-pandemic damage [including extra numbers claiming benefits], war in Ukraine [huge energy prices] and ongoing mass immigration causing extortionate house prices and rents. However, it is plain to see that we have endured 14 years of Tory incompetence the like of which has never been seen before. Despite the mess we still have a £14 billion pa foreign aid budget and we can send aircraft carriers and other Royal Navy ships to the Gulf.

[@aussiemouth747]

Started happening a long time before Brexit.

[@doctorae724]

This sounds like karma for centuries of imperialism.

[@Quotes4ulife]

I have never seen people this sad and depressed like in the UK

[@dansome3563]

It's true all people who I know we are facing difficulties all of working man

[@Nao39]

Go to Russia and feel it

[@martinspeer262]

​@@Nao39don't talk sh*t

[@Bebrou66]

​@@Nao39at least Russia is clean and maybe will have it better when they finally overthrow their government.UK is done

[@FirehorseG]

It's definitely happening. Never known society to be this divided, miserable, poor and downtrodden. I was born in the 60s and seen a couple of recessions. This is different.

[@MESSEDUPWORLD30]

The elites want this to be a permanent reality for everyone. This is not temporary. Its here to stay. Welcome to 21st century globalism and capitalist cronyism. Its a new era we live in. All hope is gone. Depressing indeed. 😢

[@mgm9437]

The miserable, poor and down trodden are those who go to work and get shafted by tax to keep the feckless, the economic migrants and the woke NHS

[@Camusiano]

Divide and conquer

[@MESSEDUPWORLD30]

@@Camusiano and it works and the rich and wealthy count on it to keep working. They keep us distracted with vices drugs social media mindless television 📺 and fast food and consumerism. We have to realize all he tricks they play on us for us to come together and fight back.

[@salomon7061]

Canada is way worse.

[@jjs3287]

Problem is that there are an unforgivable number of people who do not recognise modern day poverty and still judge it by victorian standards.

[@shingitheduke]

Good, how long did the UK think they could live off the world’s misery for?

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@shingithedukehow are they doing that?

[@Luciry123]

If choosing between Heating and Eating isn't poverty then I don't know what then

[@dean-gm1lg]

​@@Luciry123get yourself in a dingy and throw your passport away

[@Luciry123]

@dean-gm1lg but I'm a UK citizen and thanks for reminding me need to renew my passport it expired last year

[@RoboJules]

Speaking as a Canadian, both of my parents left the UK for the same reason, which is a ruling class that constantly steps on Brits necks to suit themselves. These are the politicians, aristocratic houses, financial administrations, and corporations who have made England a living hell for time immemorial. There is so much public development that would provide jobs, grow the economy, fulfill the needs of the British people, and that the UK needs to do now, that is laying by the wayside due to a woefully inept managerial class - HS2 cancelation, anyone? The UK is notorious as a country where business runs at a snails pace as one often requires needless permission from local councils to do anything, and that's strangling the country to death, especially in the housing sector. The Government should be creating national property development standards that bring down the cost and build time of construction, and looking at what taxes and regulations can be axed for the sake of speeding up the economy. The Government should not be giving exclusive tax breaks to the richest people in the country while talking about providing international aid in a time where people are going homeless at record rates, especially when there is no clear national housing plan, and no real solutions being offered. I'm saying this because Canada is dealing with so many of the same problems - we're a commonwealth country being strangled to death by an inept, uncaring ruling class who prevent the necessary development and change required to actually help grow the economy and help people.

[@DukeofBlasphemy]

Wonderful comment.

[@dcpete5475]

Canadistan is a shithole

[@valriasmall2044]

This sounds so much like what is happening here in the United States and so many other countries that I could finish your sentences before I finished reading them.

[@vocalinstrument]

If i was paying the rent prices in the UK, i would be in poverty too as i only earn 2100 euros a month after tax. As my 2 bed flat only costs roughly 560 euros a month including heating ans water, i have a fair bit left over. But in the Uk i would probably be paying three times that so wouldn't be able to save at all. The prices for rents in the UK are absolutely disgraceful! I was born in the Uk and grew up there but due to the expense of living decided to leave and live my life in Germany.

[@nickmander6088]

I hate to point out the obvious, but we’ve already reached this point, with one significant difference, the Victorian era was a time of great industry, mining, cotton mills, real trades like casting, glass blowers , and my trade , real jewellery designers , most of it all gone, thanks to constant selling us under the river in parliament and constant incessant need to sell off everything we had to Asia and south east Asia, and in return buying cheap mass produced garbage from those same said countries. Bring back our proud industrial heritage and national service and put the great back in Britain. First stop, get rid of the un elected government out that has well and truly sunk us to the bottom of a mineshaft.

[@edaleman2758]

There's plenty of wealth in Britain but hoarded by the wealthy

[@piccalillipit9211]

Every single word is correct.

[@richardgallagher4880]

We're licking it. 5th richest country on earth. Massive new industries opening up. It's just squandered on closedowns and rr3main.

[@californiadreamin8423]

@@richardgallagher4880. Twaddle.

[@richardgallagher4880]

@@skrich9690 See the bit where I explained? That's where I explained

[@lenpowell6152]

We are fast becoming a broken country .The gap between rich and poor is now massive.Our housing water electricity roads NHS and everything else is a mess.And our national debt is now 2.6 trillion pounds.

[@user-ds8rj2vc4v]

Becoming? -Broken education system -Broken NHS -Broken housing market -Broken economy -Wage inequality -Broken energy sector Is there anything that isn't broken? Maybe the financial sector, but AI is going to come pretty damn hard for them soon enough.

[@DARKNESS66611]

​@@user-ds8rj2vc4vThe British economy is good. The only thing Britain is good for is money

[@aleph8888]

Clearly, lack of money isn’t the problem

[@craigl458]

Tory Britain. Isn't it lovely.

[@23merlino]

@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 - his comment could well be sarcasm...

[@stevewiles7132]

That shot of an empty London looked like a scene from 28 days later.

[@LogicPak]

good movie

[@swoodhall]

This is definitely happening in front of our eyes.. Super rich and super poor here in the UK.

[@ninomonkeyd]

In all the world. And it is unstoppable.

[@theresedavis2526]

Just like the US.

[@eyestothesky2745]

We never left that era, all that changed was the scenery and the people. In many ways it's worse than back then people and communitys/neighbours looked out for each other, especially the poorer ones. It's everyone for himself in the modern age and no government will ever fix that.

[@dellsoprano8110]

im not from uk , but iv been here 25 years , the standard of living is way bellow of EU .

[@roops2939]

Blame the people, not the government. These people want to live in the Victorian age. They don't want any new developments to take place. No new roads, no new railways, no new hospitals, no new houses, no to training up more doctors and nurses, no new bridges, no new tunnels, no new sewers, no to clean streets no nothing, just keep the Victorian age. They are not like the Europeans, like Bulgaria or Romania. These countries think ahead.

[@victoredwards3959]

Fact - a recent report, showed on news at 10 on itv , laid it all out for people to see , Britain standard of living is the lowest in Europe, and the current government has no answer or policy to help people. So right now, the country is in a free fall.

[@Kat-mu8wq]

​@@victoredwards3959 probably why my brother has decided to live in Indonesia and not come home.

[@redwhite_040]

rejoin Eu maybe?

[@josephhenry9924]

@@victoredwards3959 UK has always been more unequal than Europe. No serious revolution here for 700 years i.e peasants revolt. Europe had their upheavals revolutions in modern history

[@rajuakter6194]

13 million in poverty, 20 million borderline poverty, 33 million in some perpetual loop trying to stay out of poverty & the other 1.5 million extracting wealth.

[@daviddiaz9341]

Same thing is happening in Canada 🇨🇦 although the media (CBC) is covering it up.

[@liammeech3702]

At least Canada has oceans of land, London has been talking g about building on what little green space it has. Farms are being bought off and having cardboard home made on top. All this talk of the environment is complete codswallop when we are packed to the gills as it is.

[@aheat3036]

The U.S. is the only country among all these English speaking countries that seems to be doing relatively well so I am glad to be here but I feel terrible for the UK and its fatal Brexit decision!

[@emmabrooker166]

That’s their plan! It’s all deliberate (and should be criminal) 😡

[@snoopy63ify]

Yes deliberate since 2010.

[@capri2673]

@@snoopy63ify Before that. Blair's part of it, too.

[@nineteen8026]

Deliberate - caused by EU Freedom of Movement under New Labour, creating Housing and NHS waiting list crises.

[@gregorybiestek3431]

@@snoopy63ify Just following the instructions they got from the USA Republicans & our Wall Street. Enjoy your time as the new Mississippi.

[@snoopy63ify]

@@capri2673 Perhaps. The UK changed drastically from 2010 to today. Many draconian measures were implemented with the then coalition government

[@veroniquehoflack4910]

An utter disgrace. Shame on the British government !!

[@SMoggyinski]

Shame on the people who VOTED for all this. The 17.3 million who voted for Brexit and all those who voted for Cameron, Johnson and co., over the last 13 years.

[@nineteen8026]

Downfall occurred due to mass uncontrolled immigration started by New Labour.

[@speedyhillski]

​@@nineteen8026migration of all sorts is out of control after brexit

It's by design

[@TheMasterblaster32]

All dregs of society in torie eyes.

[@owent1166]

It’s already happened, there isn’t no going back or stopping it now. It’s utterly tragic, the lower working class have been completely neglected, betrayed and abandoned by governments in bed with large mega corporations where the money doesn’t go back into the local towns and villages, it goes into the corporates pockets and in financing further development of technological and financial hubs in central cities that are tailored and targeted at everyone but the working class. This has been decades in the making and it’s all now coming to a head. What a tragedy, it truly is.

[@dixienormus997]

What's most worrying is the sheer amount of people that don't care.

[@WiseAngelUK]

We still have victorian drainage and sewerage systems, so when it rains the drains cant cope and cause flooding as well as sending manhole covers into the air with the water pressure.

[@adriennefried5368]

Can cause cholera

[@pingping7594]

Luckily we’re ready to go back to Victorian times.

[@californiadreamin8423]

So what has happened to our drainage and sewage infrastructure, when we pay so much …..profit for the privatised companies , and deliberate use of our rivers as open sewers.

[@sweeta17]

@@californiadreamin8423 its disgusting to say the least .

[@nineteen8026]

Victorian drainage/water system in London cannot cope due to mass uncontrolled immigration started under New Labour.

[@pjm4112]

Already happened. Old terraced streets, 0 hours contracts, opium and gin everywhere. laissez faire approach to social welfare.

[@LibertarianGalt]

Lmao socialists will do anything to not admit socialism is a failure

[@kanewhitehead1522]

At least in the Victorian era there was a much stronger social bond between people, they had next to nothing but relied on each other to compensate. Today however we live atomized lives and everyone is out for themselves.

[@joelse7298]

it's everywhere ....Italy too

[@SerMattzio]

We're already in this situation. When I talk to people and look around there are broadly two types of people; those driving around in Chelsea tractors back to their large homes, and those who struggle to rent and have no disposable income. It doesn't even matter what your level of education is, people are either well off or broke.

[@andrew2272kag]

Almost like we've had the same government for the past 13 years, who have grown increasingly bold with their machinations, after being consistently voted in no matter what.

[@Nazlairdie]

This is what the Tories have wanted & been pushing us to for years & it’s been cheered on by our press & those who own it.

[@MrMarshallAC]

The Labour would make it worse by pumping in more migrants who won't work or integrate but just suck up welfare payments. They'll convert the whole of UK to White Chappel of Victorian era.

[@commandingjudgedredd1841]

Be under no illusion that the other parties are better either.

[@barra6709]

Well it's been your other party that support flooding your country with unrestricted mass migration that is a major contributor to the problem. It's a no win for your either way

[@James_08_07]

@@commandingjudgedredd1841 but they are

[@Wrtp.]

Don’t talk piss thank for..k labour is not in charge.

[@takeapictureitlllastlonger5768]

Cant afford heating or electricity and am just working to pay rent bills and travel to work. We should not be held to ransom for the things that we need to survive for fck sake its 2023 not 1600

[@deanmadnut2614]

They want us going back to medieval times

[@takeapictureitlllastlonger5768]

Thats great...if it is a fair game, but its illegal to go live in the woods in our own little community's and catch your food and burn wood for heat.@@deanmadnut2614

[@WorldOfWonder66]

This is so heartbreaking. It has already happened here in America.

[@breakfast00club..11]

Ya in America we have tens of thousands of homeless mostly women and men of African blood no one cares anymore.. they are humans as well ..

[@DisconnectedRoamer]

It's the Anglo Saxon empires plan for us all

[@Chopper8472]

The UK was at their height during colonialism.

[@anthonyfrancis2374]

Im not an American myself but your GDP is at a record breaking 5.2% Unemployment at 3.5% Inflation 3.2% the Biden presidency has been a phenomenal catalyst for growth considering what he inherited from trump and its forecast to grow even more next year.

[@malahammer]

@@Chopper8472 what a silly thing to say. Exploitation, pillage and genocide.

[@gopdogg]

Funny how Sky News doesn't mention the economic reality of Brexit.

[@jofrances3296]

My partner has worked 35 + years has been ill for three months. Made to feel like a criminal for being out of work. I’ve been trying to support us applying through agencies one has come through for me new year. But has left us I. A difficult position over several months. It’s a total nightmare. Living with antisocial neighbours to add to the this. Who take drugs and get every benefit going

[@GruenerGummistiefel]

Grimsby ?

[@peterpacciani666]

It could be worse!

[@jofrances3296]

@@peterpacciani666easy to say your not living it

[@noelfleming3567]

Hope things get better for u it's always d working class that suffer

[@mrmonkey2214]

It's almost as if it is as intended.

[@lisaj3474]

Yes it’s hard to fathom; but I believe it is a cull. It is getting worse by the day & people are downtrodden and mute !

[@veilmail-io]

It's very much intended

[@ChsM-jk4oy]

It was the rich and powerful used the media qnd the stupidity and apathy and greed of the public to go take us back

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@veilmail-io The new king is a founder of that club only a few belong too.

[@SmeggyCrust]

I was telling people years ago they’re planning on getting rid if the middle class. They want it like how it was in the Victorian era. I was told I was mad. It’s all planned.

[@CallumHughes-dg1zp]

I've lived in Birmingham since 2016 and the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger. I'm not left wing but can't help but feel like this is largely down to Tory rule and neglecting those most in need. I come from a council estate but worked hard to get even this far, but it feels like there's no safety net at all for the vulnerable. Once people end up in poverty or homelessness it's very hard for them to bounce back. Even a Labour win at the next General Election won't fix this damage overnight. The damage is deep and will take years to repair.

[@richardmurphy9006]

Exporting manufacturing jobs was giving two fingers to the working class just hooped

[@missgreeneyesx3512]

It's time we hold our government responsible

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Your own fault 🫵

[@WiseAngelUK]

Get involved in some of their research projects, this is a good way to hold them to account

[@tomatomi8041]

And who is going to do that?

[@Spike123.98]

Labour won't do anything.

[@T5Zplayer]

How about holding the idle responsible

[@1Fracino]

One of the problems is the Wages people get paid for doing honest work, it's nowhere near enough with all of the price hikes and the rise in the minimum wage in April will just go on increased food/fuel/rent prices.

[@mspsys]

well, if the wages increase, that will cause massive number of small to mid-sized businesses to fail. the real issue is that the UK do not produce enough goods. UK imports everything from overseas. there is no major manufacturing sector to speak of in UK. does UK have any IP/technology sector? like Apple, Google or Amazon? nope. absolutely nothing. UK is very similar to a third world country like Pakistan. UK is certainly headed that direction.

[@JoshAston23]

Most of my bills increased by 13%. I received a 2.5% pay rise.

[@paulsmusic2908]

@@JoshAston23 13%? I want some of that, mine have doubled

[@kinggeoffrey3801]

​@@paulsmusic2908yep mine since 2021 have gone up 50-60%.

[@MP-vc4nu]

Even if wages increased in general, prices of produces/services will increase in response. That’s how business work 101

[@loo7784]

It’s time we are SILENT NO MORE .

[@Acconda]

UK citizens need to actually group together and fight back instead of moaning on social media. We need to grind the country to a halt! If not we can wait it out until we have lost everything.

[@ChrisM541]

The REAL reason housing is 100% totally destroyed:- 1) The average house price in the past was 2.5x the average salary !!! 2) The average mortgage in the past was 2.5x the average salary. 3) The average mortgage payback term, in the past, was 21 years. Today !!!... 4) The average mortgage is 5x the average salary. 5) The average mortgage payback term is 35 years. 6) The average house price ($290,000) is 8x the average salary (34,000) - profiteering, simply because there's MORE MONEY given through mortgages !!! 6) Rent charges, of course, follows this profiteering. ZERO government control whatsoever !!! This is BY DESIGN from the Tories, who's extensive 'property portfolios' and money backhanders have benefited massively. In any other similar situation, DELIBERATE RIGGING of conditions like this is a criminal act !!!

[@Appleboo222]

Best comment I’ve seen!

[@benghiskahn3673]

This is very true. It's not at all surprising that successive governments have failed to address this matter because so many of them directly benefit from it. A big part of the problem is that housing is seen as an investment that both generates reliable income and produces never ending capital growth which is fuelled by super-low interest bank lending that is beginning to look like a quasi-ponzi scheme. This whole system just sucks huge amounts of money out of the pockets of productive workers and funnels it directly into the pockets of rentiers. It has a huge net detrimental effect on the wider economy, but the people who benefit from this scam are the very same people who control it.

[@MrPrebuttal]

Its not the tories but the puppet masters who control them

[@outtheredude]

Treating houses that should be homes like gold bars to be locked away from the populace. The property market is the new gold standard upon which the UK economy is based.

[@thomasanders1314]

It really is. At least the biggest companies should be stopped from sucking the last money from the poorest.

[@user-jo9iq4wf1c]

Have to tried to visit a work ?

[@stephenjohnson2800]

@@user-jo9iq4wf1ceh?

[@griswald7156]

Standing charges on gas and electric…£300 per year, i then can’t afford to buy their product..

[@winstoningram99]

​@@user-jo9iq4wf1cIn English, maybe.

[@stephenjohnson2800]

@@user-jo9iq4wf1c eh?

[@badgerboy4448]

It's getting bad now. My parents say the years either one gets a new car we can only go on one holiday and it might not even be abroad.

[@ResplendentAura]

It’s full circle! Took a while, but here we are folks! How do we get out of this hole? Nobody knows! Nobody! Government, politicians, university professors absolutely nobody! Just no answer!

[@hugodrax71]

The richest 10 per cent own 43 per cent of the UK 's wealth. The UK still has a thriving Royal Family worth over £20 billion and still has a flourishing aristocracy which has doubled its fortune in the last decade. Little has actually changed since the Victorian era.

[@user-lu4kq7nu4x]

Less than 10 percent and they own more like 90 percent if not more of the UK and the world's wealth

[@shysociety39]

The benefits off a 13 year right wing tory government... as they don't tax the billionaires and the top 5 percent of earners enough as a percentage, so there is no money for public sector spending and public services in the treasury, so the nhs is under pressure and benefits are not going up with inflation to help the poorest unemployed people to help with the cost of living inflation costs...

[@thunderbug8640]

@@shysociety39 Why should anyone be expected to help the poor unemployed. Industries are screaming for workers but the British just can’t be bothered when the benefits keep rolling in. Take any benefit ghetto in the UK and 90% or more of them could work and there are jobs available for them all. But they don’t want them.

[@knowscountchen7305]

our figurehead is not what she seems!

[@liammeech3702]

​@shysociety39 perhaps if the NHS was not getting involved with politics (diversity managers, etc.) It would have more disposable income...

[@bollocknaked1975]

And it's all BY DESIGN.....

[@MrKorton]

SOROS 🎉😂

[@Nicholascagesmandolin]

The uk is such a depressing place to live, the place is falling apart and then add some of the most miserable weather on earth. How any immigrants want to come here ive got no idea

[@outtheredude]

Criminal gangs opening "successful" businesses with no customers all over the place to launder both money and people from overseas.

[@scotty3463]

It's amazing isn't it. I predicted this 20 years ago, trained up and moved. I feel sorry for those who don't have the skills to get out. My advice to any young person is to get insane skills and hedge all risk.

[@tea7176]

Not a solution, "abandon the country"

[@activationfunction]

There were a large number of Brits moving to Canada. Then they got hit with the housing crisis over there. 🤦‍♀

[@Rnankn]

Poverty wasn’t the problem in the Victorian era, it was unequal distribution of wealth.

[@Chris-kr7gg]

So it's still the same problem.

[@Stephen-lx9nm]

Like now😂

[@AndyJ82]

Or more simply put, greed.

[@jonathonsmith6831]

Which equals poverty

[@johnnotrealname8168]

I would dispute this. It seems a tad odd to blame distribution when the issues rested on working conditions and ownership of land.

[@mhtbfecsq1]

THE TORIES SAID LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO TAKE US BACK TO VICTORIAN TIMES, AND THEY HAVE DONE IT.

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

I dearly love the tories for taking the British at least 200 years back...After all they did to many countries during colonization didnt they.😂😂😂😂😂

[@DARKNESS66611]

​@@rodgerhargoon3402?

[@robertadams1054]

Just wait and see a Labour government, they will house and give benefits to all the Immigrants, and F the Native British tax payers.

[@ApostleOfZeus199]

​@@rodgerhargoon3402You know what, I'm tired of this pathetic excuse. Islam did the same thing which resulted in a crusade, China did the same thing as did other countries. We will no longer be guilt tripped by instagation officers online.

[@valkyrie941]

@@rodgerhargoon3402 Learn how to type with only one space between words.

[@TheRealKaiProton]

I like the "could Push UK back" about 10yrs ago I read somewhere that the wealth gap was larger then, then in the olden days, so I think we are already there,

[@markaven5249]

Not just mental conditions, PHYSICAL health conditions

[@gabrielajonczyk5663]

Britain always was dependent on it's colonies so it's just result of it. Victorian era was rich people using poor people to work, still the mindset of Brits, now they just remember it with nostalgia.

[@rjjcms1]

That's at best one third true and two thirds myth.

[@ab-ym3bf]

​@@rjjcms1let's see: -dependent on colonies: true -rich people using poor: true (for every place on the globe) - British victorian mindset: true - nostalgia: true, just look at the worshipping of a glorified past that never was. Sounds to me a 100% correct post.

[@HARIkRISHNA-wj6sh]

I am very sure most indians like me..liked your comment

[@rjjcms1]

I'm not feeling well enough at the moment to argue the points on this yet,but it's the way the original comment was worded that I took issue with. Whether intentionally or not,it tries to close things down into a narrative that's only a part of the truth and nowhere near the whole of it. It also conflates one or two things into a misrepresentation.

[@Nam__]

lol true the mindset of its population keeping it behind

[@bt1163]

The Rich are getting Extremely Rich, whilst the poor are still being played at every turn !!!

[@davidnorton7437]

Difficult to understand such a rapid decline. Tragic!

[@Kylethetile]

Shame there's not some of that Ukraine money left for the British people

[@user-xy9vw7wv3o]

The Rich have become more selfish and the Poor Just Continue to Stay Poor! It's heart breaking !😢

[@lordgamerv4943]

Define the rich

[@aclark903]

When people choose to make up their own rules instead of following God’s rules in the #NewTestament, that tends to happen..

[@Pilky-Bs2Mc]

I've never seen such wealth divide & have also never seen such nastiness in my life from the "Haves" against the "Have nots"

[@merlingeikie]

Vote

[@Gnomezonbacon]

Is this the country of robbin hood?

[@thebeesnuts777]

I'm not surprised , is life just working and being residual income/ passive income for a landlord and for the utilities and the tax man , this system has killed the meaning of life

[@Natta44]

For the average working person yes. The rich enjoy their second homes, lavish holidays, fancy cars, they are so far detatched from the real world.

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@Natta44 Yet so eager to dictate common people how to live, they know nothing about real life, born rich, never had to work a day to earn their food and enjoying the family fortune served on a platter. Besides that they act like and are a bunch of spoiled toddlers.

[@Abraham_Tsfaye]

When I was in UK. I saw empty boarded up streets under a constant grey sky, litter everywhere. Homeless people sleeping in doorways. A women with cat whiskers makeup casually walking into Tesco with her pajamas. Opioid addicts out of their mind and women so drunk they urinated on the streets. It's a sad declined country.

[@robertseavor4304]

Sky gave its full support to all the things that are causing our poverty - mass immigration, the insane energy policy, and the lockdowns that destroyed businesses, restricted the flow of goods and caused the government to inflate the cash supply with massive borrowings, thereby driving up prices.

[@PokeFawzi]

Imagine if we all just flat out refused to pay our bills. What could they do? Arrest millions of people? 🤣 I'm sick of being worse off every week in this country, barely affording to buy dinner for tomorrow

[@antinatalist9995]

Reminds me of how I existed as a student- could cover rent and bills but had to eat for free at work. I walked or cycled; bus fares were out of my league. Many fellow students had access to daddy's credit card and free accomo in the home counties each holiday. Some had a driving licence and a car despite never having worked. Wealth is for those who inherit, not those who work full time.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@antinatalist9995 Wealth increasingly is not inherited. Inheritance helps, and that is okay, but it is not the be all end all.

[@DisconnectedRoamer]

We tried that in liverpool, traitor Churchill sent soldiers and war ships killing 2 people and the rest of England cheered them on

[@verenamaharajah6082]

What would happen if we all refused to pay our bills? Our utilities would be cut off. No gas, no electricity, no water, no phones. Being arrested and put in jail would be preferable.

[@DG-iw3yw]

Or we just come together as communites, adress those who are the most vunerable, start growing and providing food as a community, energy. The only thing stopping us is ourselves and our need for materialism and selfishness

[@kiimmaritz2827]

Too many poor...and the Royals live in 40 different mansions and castles...it's wrong...

[@Dudebond.]

Poor ok get a job then

[@edaleman2758]

​@@Dudebond.Many jobs pay so little that the wages are topped up with benefits. Let's stop subsidising the wealthy

[@bocaj.455]

Yet most of the folk, including the poor approve of the monarchy.

[@meglobob9217]

I after say the royal familes christmas photo's made me puke...Charles + Camillia is probably a good time to abolish the royal family.

[@user-hf1pg2ey6l]

List out the 40 mansions and castles.

[@ryanbutler2800]

In 2023!! This should not be happening.

[@johanrijhkelaar3627]

The price hikes in the basic stuff is out of order, everything going up and no signs of it stopping unfortunately. This country is going downhill

[@alm5966]

I can attest. Trying to live on 500 quid a month with bills of 280 quid is a grim existence. Not being able to even afford sell off aisle items in the supermarket means I've hit rock bottom. Cheers for that.

[@rahuldahoob]

I'm on 500 a month with £2,500 monthly expenses!! Not good 😮😮😮😮😮

[@aleph8888]

Oh no try getting a job

[@alm5966]

​@@aleph8888I've worked for almost 40 years, I can't face the grind anymore.

[@tabularasa7775]

​@@alm5966Respect the honesty . I feel the same hence why i got a van and converted it into a home so now i only have to work 2 days a week .

[@winstoningram99]

​@@rahuldahoobcocaine isn't cheap 😅

[@skysoftware4581]

When the many stop fearing the few.

[@commandingjudgedredd1841]

Not enough people can be bothered to see what is happening. Too busy glued to their phones!

[@salkoharper2908]

English people have alwyas been craven and submissive to their betters. Only the Russias nd and a century ago the Germans were as subservient all through history to a ruling aristocracy and oligarcy. Britain has a literal king. Like a Medieval fuedal nation. Do I need to say anymore. England is not psychologically a modern nation. In the minds of its ruling class it is still 'Them' and the 'Peasants'.

[@martyndavid2094]

And yet no one makes a stand against this, standards have slipped desperately in the last decade or 2 , living and morally, we must get out there and cause the authorities hell

[@patrikvorburger495]

Isn't this what people were looking for by electing Tories and voting for Brexit? It was so crystal clear that things would develop as it becomes clear now.

[@stephenhubber9184]

taxed to the bollocks. All the utility billions spunked away. politicians should be interned.

[@ForgetReligion3179]

The main leaders of the British Government are from priveliged backgrounds. It doesnt matter who takes over as Prime minister or the cabinet they all have a private education or money in the family. The MPs who have come from the lower classes never progress through the ranks to become Party Leaders. Also the Government spend money without a care where it goes too or what it is spent on. But i expect if we got a business person/ accountant from the lower ranks we could start saving moreoney and spend less on things that are pointless.

[@alexanderlennon9164]

Margret Thatcher Greengrocers daughter ?

[@coco_sloth]

@@alexanderlennon9164 Yes, but the person who she married was a statesman who had lots of money! Majority of his money helped her get into the higher ranks of government!

[@pritapp788]

@@alexanderlennon9164 Yeah, and remember how well she took care of the working class by destroying the industries that employed them. A Tory from a more humble background will still enact Tory policies.

[@knittingbouvier]

Angela Rayner is about as working class as it gets. She is unfortunately a rarity in politics though.

[@mustafa1name]

Or John Major?@@alexanderlennon9164

[@AzimuthPrime]

It's like looking down on a London after an apocalypse...

[@timwhite4432]

All as planned. Can't reset without breaking society, eh King Charlie?

[@gordonhamilton727]

Still, we can all look on the bright side. Footballers on multi million pound contracts to keep us all entertained.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Priorities over substance.

[@rayosullivan4398]

Yep Spurs 1 City 2 who gives a rats bollocks get of your holes and do something.

[@missmerrily4830]

This is not new. I've been saying it for some years now. The only difference is that there is no super class of innovators and engineers, explorers and philanthropists this time around, to try to make things better. Now it's just the vacuous rich versus the unfortunate poor.

[@rockstarjoe5725]

damn

[@user-fq5kg6gk1g]

This is the Reason Why so many People are giving up on their lives because they don’t see any Future for Themselves because of Poverty, inEquality and lack of Opportunity this is why people become Addicted to Drugs and Alcohol because they don’t see any Hope!!!

[@BBradshawProductions]

It's the jobs lost by Brexit. When stupid people get to making economic decisions.

[@andrewbush3744]

I agree with all this this government should be a shamed of its self looking after the rich

[@lorenzosammarco1056]

If u import thirld world u become thirld world. England is gettin poor because is not english anymore. Immigrants drain all welfare and there are no resources left for white english

[@shysociety39]

The benefits off a 13 year right wing tory government... as they don't tax the billionaires and the top 5 percent of earners enough as a percentage, so there is no money for public sector spending and public services in the treasury, so the nhs is under pressure and benefits are not going up with inflation to help the poorest unemployed people to help with the cost of living inflation costs...

[@BatCountryAdventures]

Every Briton enabled this. As a democracy with prescribed abilities to make your voices heard and make a difference and the people should have corrected the ship's bearing long ago. The fact that this decline had gone on for so long meant that a certain essential step in the democratic process was never carried out. A 4 year decline could have been passed off as a mistake but this is now amounting to decades of stagnations.

[@rahuldahoob]

I hiredvoted boris

[@moreplease998]

​@@rahuldahoobyou made a mistake then. Boris was always a bad choice

[@DukeofBlasphemy]

Every Briton... even the ones who vehemently protested it the entire time, only to be met by deaf ears?

[@SDPtoronto]

Same in Canada….the crime, drugs, tent cities popping up all over, stores closed etc etc. The country I grew up in is disintegrating daily.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Jack the Ripper would be appalled if he saw Britain today! 🤣

[@deelawdazhahs1078]

To anyone reading: this will always happen whenever the torries are in power.

[@MyCamilla1989]

Then Labour should get a grip and stop positioning itself as the voice of Blacks / Muslims / Transgenders and re-embrace national values of the English working class.

[@user-yp7rn6tb2t]

​@@MyCamilla1989true ...every union banner is full of solidarity with Palestinians or latest flavour of the month . Only time lefties show any concern is when it's frikin ethnic issues

[@wts7759]

Dont be so laughably naive 😂, their all bloody cut from the same cloth. Christ they love the divisiveness of pretending Labour or Conservative are actually different..ffs.

[@SunbathinginAntarctica]

​@@MyCamilla1989🥱

[@raymondsawyer8626]

It is always the same when we have a Tory government , there is always wealth in the Tory heartland but levelling up is just a slogan

[@juneroberts1438]

Every Government are the same ,they are never for the people, no matter what they say !!!

[@Design_no]

Even more so with Labour.

[@Jhoodlumz27]

@@Design_nonot true labour give a little back to the poor it’s not much but as bad as they all are labour is for the poor this country was better as a whole when labour were in charge especially for those worse off

[@splitter7376]

​@@Design_noAlways some fool making ridiculous comments like this...get ready to lose fascist trash.

[@moreplease998]

​@@Design_noQuite the opposite. Labour might be Tory-lite these days but at least we saw real wage growth for the majority under them

[@tonydoggett7627]

I own two UK manufactured items, a 20 year old Russell Hobbs electric kettle and a 1951 tractor. That’s it! The UK doesn’t manufacture anything for the Australian market. 🇦🇺

[@chamberpot969]

This is avoidable and simply unacceptable. Before that happens we need to throw our government and civil service out of power.

[@Wild-Storm]

Privatisation has profit over welfare of the people as priority. Since everything is being held by pvt companies, shareholders are to be kept happy meaning higher price low pay etc

[@Peter-bg1ku]

I don't believe in privatisation of essential services such as water, health etc.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Yeah but the people want lower prices.

[@sistinechroma]

Can confirm this I used to work in a private IT support provider that took on most of the NHS GP practices in my area. The upper management were always boasting about how much money the company was making in every meeting whilst we saw nothing of it working for minimum wage just listening to doctors get upset that nothing was getting done coz we only had 20 minutes of time we were allowed to use per a practice per a day and half of that was spent just understanding the problems then they would call back the next day and it would be a different person that answers and they would have to explain it all again.

[@gadagaz]

Good to see Sky catching the good part of my hometown. If they wanted to portray a impoverished part, they could have picked a worse looking bit. Kudos to them!

[@SpacialKatana]

Too scared to have gone there.

[@DisconnectedRoamer]

The houses they showed just look like normal northern houses, our houses have better infrastructure that most of the world

[@LPVinyl]

If the tories could, they’d bring back the poor house as well 😢

[@immir6647]

I think its the plan. Hear me out. After brexit theres a shortage across all sectors especially produce pickers. I think theyre trying to make people destitute so they can offer them temporary accommodation near the fields so they can be made to work on them. Think workhouse style and the people outside the situation will think its a good thing because tories will tell them benefit claimants are getting accommodation and a mandated job.

[@beaubrent]

Those in power find it easier to blame immigrants for everything rather than recognising that there are no opportunities at all to lift British people out of poverty. No plan to help those less educated or disadvantaged to have opportunity to do more. Education is becoming too expensive, the NHS is becoming less and less available and those stuck poverty have to bridge out. The rich cannot lead because they have no idea how to help those who did not have every opportunity they had.

[@lloydnaylor6113]

There is a plan to lift people out of poverty its called work, try it , there is a million job vacancies.

[@honeybunch6473]

I agree they had no plan but huge scale immigration has compounded and added to the problem

[@harrisr1018]

@@honeybunch6473huge scale immigration? What huge scale immigration? I thought Brexit would solve all of that???

[@kattitauu]

​@@harrisr10181000 illegals everyday by boat, labour and conservatives are both useless

[@markmolloy1497]

@@harrisr1018 Maybe he is talking about the 1.2 million that immigrants that arrived in the year to 2023. That's the official stats, which clearly underestimates the real numbers. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/longterminternationalmigrationprovisional/yearendingjune2023#strengths-and-limitations

[@twisteddancer7773]

Another reason to stop the boats then

[@blazzz13]

Yes boat people are behind Tory mismanagement like tanking the pound 🤡

[@richardmabe4186]

This country really needs a reset. We need new Government with a vision people can rally around and politicians who do what's best for the country.

[@Behappy62]

It’s definitely Victorian era middle class are being demoted to working class and working class poor

[@BettinaMaurer-cf3dx]

I know no country with a unequality like great britain. All primeministers are very rich and grew up rich! They do not know the Lifes of working ordinary people!

[@ecaeas4439]

America...

[@DARKNESS66611]

​@@ecaeas4439I am in Florida right now and I am wondering about the things people build America up to be

[@leebailey229]

Does anyone feel its been going backwards for a decade?

[@AlexGys9]

It has been going backwards for as long as I can remember (the seventies).

[@DARKNESS66611]

​@@AlexGys9No it hasn't

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@AlexGys9 Around the time the wef was founded by among others your new king.

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

It all started with Thatcher. I admired her way of speaking but other than that, she was a mini-Reagan

[@ThatGuyThanus]

Well, every Tory from thatcher onwards, has banged on and on about Victorian values.. and here we are..