Power Commander INSTALL THE EASY WAY: WR250r + Other Motorcycles

[@HeroRR]

Yes! Finally! I've been waiting for these videos! I cannot wait to see your reaction the first time you try it out. Power commanders are such a big part of the motorcycle world and I love your content and insight so it's very exciting to see your true opinions of the matter once you have actual experience with it! Keep up the good work CC, looking forward to the next one!

[@ZackGoes]

is it considered a Power Commander even though it only does fuel?

[@CycleCruza]

+ZackGoes This is the fuel and ignition module, not fuel only.

[@ZackGoes]

+CycleCruza damn, i should have done more research

[@CycleCruza]

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[@jerrycoon4504]

Cool man! Making progress! I'm glad to see you're doing it yourself. That's the best way to learn. I can't wait for you to ride it. I think you will love it. (even more than you already do). LETS GO FOR A RIIIIIDE!!!! LOL!

[@dremyofit6719]

Man you are good at this mechanical engineering services.🏁

[@rileyspowersports6967]

Please do a video comparing and contrasting power commander vs ECU reflash along with your opinion! :) everyone loves the knowledgable advise

[@Iamfirebird360]

This may be a dumb question but is there a map if I choose to stay completely stock, no pipe, no header just the pcv?

[@CycleCruza]

FYI - Some of you may have seen a video I did in the past where I was not sold on getting a Power Commander. The reason I had that opinion at the time was because of some research I did where a few people had some trouble with their PC, the PC died and their bike would start. It wasn't a mass problem, just a few occurrences . Also, I said that it will reduce your fuel efficiency a little bit. I felt it wasn't worth it at the time to get a PC, HOWEVER, some viewers said I had no experience with a PC and that I should try it out SO I took their advice and will experience a power commander and share that experience with you. I will tell you if it improves performance and if it will reduce fuel efficiency. So STAY TUNED!

[@jasquer]

So, how did it go? Did it reduce fuel efficiency? Did you get some power gains? I'm in the process of installing the PC3 in my WR250R, but kind of second-guessing myself still.

[@ShootingSportz]

Thanks bro! Do you know if this install would be similar to the Yamaha XT250?

[@JoaoFerreira-qj4zp]

CC when you put for example an aftermarket exausht on your bike, if you want to remap it you have to instal a power comander? or there is an other way to do it? like directly remap the ecu of the bike or something like that dunno.....??

[@everss02]

+João Ferreira you can reflash them on newer bikes, but only a tune shop will have the tools, they cost a ton

[@CycleCruza]

+João Ferreira You only need a PC for a full exhaust, don't really need one with a slip-on most of the time.

[@SonicOrbStudios]

What is a power commander?

[@ebubekirbinici6031]

you mentioned you had a portable battery in the rear seat for some device you had on your phone i cant find the video but where can i find that battery bc i want to install LEDs on my bike but i dont want to tamper with the wires and the bikes battery

[@CycleCruza]

+ebubekir binici Here is a big power bank that I have in the trunk: amzn.to/1Ridn5R Or you could use this smaller one: amzn.to/1S01Hrq

[@krebs4817]

is a power comander crucial when changing your exhaust ?

[@ftksalazar2862]

Friend, a question about the CFKMOTO NK250, is that engine carried by another motorcycle model or another brand, for example Honda or Kawasaki? I have an NK250 and I want to know in case I ever have to buy spare parts for the internal part of the engine. I want to know what scanner, brand and model they recommend me to buy and be able to test the CFMOTO brand and also if by chance they know the brand and model of any programmable motor control unit to install it on my NK250. I would appreciate the information.

[@EEEBA1]

What does your Power Commander do/purpose? I always did ECU re flash...does it accomplish the same thing? Thank you

[@reiljohnherdan5556]

Just wondering if anyone know where i can get a fuel map for my wr. Mods done to mine -FMF Q4 slip on -Power Commander FC -AIS removed thankyou @cyclecruza for the diy vid -Exhuast servo motor DIY mod similar to servo eliminator from 12oclocklabs -14/49 sprocket combo Basically stock air filter and stock exhaust header. I tried maps from dynojet website but nothing seems to be working properly with my current setup and i can't find any map that fits an fmf slip on only.

[@raymon760]

I have a DR-Z400s and I refuse to do the 3x3 mod (cutting a hole in the top of the air box)

[@CycleCruza]

+raymon760 I was referring to the flapper air box mod, basically removing the mechanisms that make the air box flap and then screw down the flapper so air is always going into the air box. I talked to a guy who has two wr250r's and he did the flapper mod on one bike and the other he didn't and he said there isn't much of a noticeable difference in performance.

[@FoxKillerMr]

+raymon760 May I ask why? I have a DR350 and I'm thinking of doing it but I don't really know the downsides of it? Maybe more chance of dirt comming inside the motor?

[@raymon760]

+CycleCruza some use 3M double-sided adhesive to secure the flapper apparently. I don't recall you mentioning if you are removing the AIS or not?

[@raymon760]

+Foxaran the air box (and filter) is the first defense from dirt, water, etc getting in you engine. I personally feel safer leaving it the way the engineers at Suzuki designed it.

[@FoxKillerMr]

raymon760 True. But my bike really suffers from poor airflow :( Will prob leave it as it is tho

[@k13fer]

hey cycle cruiser, what makes a good road?

[@Marksim44]

What's a good link I could find and or good mods for my 01 CBR 929 ???

[@lifehacker123]

Just read an article yesterday. Apparently the Autotune from Dynojet is seriously dope when used together with the Power Commander. Autotune creates an engine mapping totally automatically and is actually quite perfect at doing so. So no matter what exhaust you have on your bike or whatever you changed on your bike, the Autotune will create a very custom mapping just for you. Yeah, it's kinda pricy but apparently it's really worth the price. The default mappings that the Power Commander has are quite good but obviously every bike is slightly different. So that default mapping can only be "perfect" to a certain degree. And if you change some things around on your bike then yeah, there won't be a default mapping that suits you. So Autotune sounds dope in that regard. Would love to see a review if you dare spending that money :P

[@CycleCruza]

+lifehacker123 From my research, some people liked the auto tune and some people didn't. Some people said just get a dyno tune. I'll look into it more and make a decision.

[@lifehacker123]

CycleCruza Well the article I read was about some Kawasaki 1200 and it really worked its magic there. They changed the exhaust, removed some throttle (or choke - no clue what it's called in english) and put another air filter in. That's way too many changes for the standard settings of the PC. And the Autotune turned the power curve from a bumpy mess full of holes into a nice round curve. Maybe I'll find the article again.

[@johnnste1]

I put an Autotune on my XT660Z Tènèrè after fitting a Powercomander V. It made it a lot better. You have perfect tune regardless of atmospheric pressure changes due to weather and altitude variations.

[@CycleCruza]

johnnste1 Cool, I may try it. Did you have to weld in the sensors on your exhaust? How did you install the sensors?

[@lifehacker123]

johnnste1 Would love to know that too.

[@ausforce1]

Hi CycleCruza i have the same PCV in my wr250r , my maps only show five gears and i noticed yours does as well ... Whats with that ? our bikes are six gear bikes !!! have you contacted DynoJet to see what they say about it ?

[@CycleCruza]

+ausforce1 I never noticed that. I'm sure they know what their doing, this Wr250r has been out since 2008, somebody must have said something. lol How does your bike ride?

[@ausforce1]

Rides great for most of the power band , i have the same mods as you megabomb Q4 , PCV i have opened up the airbox , But be careful mate the intake noise is horrid now :(. To be honest it should be dynotuned to get the most out of the PCV. Best Bike in the world though :) i love it , so fun. Honestly CycleCruza i think its a defect and there is no mapping for 6th gear !!! i read about a guy who had to send his back to Dynojet to reflash because of this fault :( If i can find the guys webpage i will send you the link ... He is a very famous wr250r modifier.

[@ausforce1]

Here is the guys website with the issue about no 6th gear map. He is like the god of WR250R mods lol www.rickramsey.net/WR250Rtuning.htm Here is exert from his page its down in the (Speed and gear calibrations) section ... "But one thing was missing; none of the maps was set up for six gears. I called DynoJet tech support and the tech sent me a 6-speed map file via email. It was time to load this map file into the PCV on the bike, which I did with no problems." I haven't called them yet but i think we both should hey cause it cost a lot of money for me to import my PCV to Tasmania.

[@CycleCruza]

ausforce1 I'll just get a proper dyne tune, which i planned on anyways. Thanks for heads up.

[@ausforce1]

No worries yeah i m booking my WR250r in for a dynotune in the next few weeks i hope ! , i will have to contact dynojet though cause i need my 6th gear flat spot fixed ;). P.S i did the snake bite air box mod on mine and i wouldn't recommend it over the ultimate air box mod ......

[@everss02]

I get my bike from storage finally today. Have PC3, heated grips, EBC pads, tender adapters for phone to put on. Are you getting a custom tune yet? Would be good to see custom tune vs canned tune, my guess is you can't tell the diff on the street.

[@CycleCruza]

+everss02 I'm going to test ride it first and see how I like it. If I like it I might skip the dyno tune. One guy I talked to had a dyno tune and said it didn't make much of a difference. We only have two centers nearby and they are backed up and said my bike would sit for a couple weeks before they could get to it, I said screw that my bike is not sitting nowhere for two weeks except my garage. lol

[@1hellavaname886]

I live in a rural part of alabama, i'm wanting to get a street bike. I've ridden dirt bikes all my life... I can't decide between a dual sport or a cruiser or a sport bike for my first.. Any suggestions?

[@everss02]

+1HellavaName Gen1 Z1000, best bang for the buck. A cruiser will probably be to tame/boring if been on dirt bikes.

[@CycleCruza]

+1HellavaName DUAL SPORT! A dual sport is great because you have two bikes in one and can start practicing out in fields, even learn to do wheelies out in the fields. Also a dual sport is easier and cheaper to fix, also cheaper to insure.

[@1hellavaname886]

+everss02 i'll check it out, thanks man. I've ridden my fiance's dads suzuki intruder 1400 and it was fun but yeah, throttle wasn't too responsive and it was pretty slow. Good bit of torque but not really immediate power like i'm used to

[@ericwilliams626]

This product is the best solution because you have the ability to upgrade firmware if necessary and change settings. The other ones are static and you would simply have to buy a new version.

[@LifeOnTwoWheelsClips]

Are you going to take it to dyno her?

[@CycleCruza]

+Life On Two Wheels When I'm all done with everything and ride the bike I'll see how I like it. Around here it's tough to get a dyno tune done right away and I don;t want my bike sitting for a couple weeks in somebody's shop.

[@josevaldivia878]

Hey you should talk about alarm systems!!🙏🏼

[@SoopaBee]

Very detailed and looked easy to do. Hope it is working out man.

[@Chad5ter]

Hey +CycleCruza, Is it a good thing to put the PCV right against the battery? Long term wise, we all know that batteries can get hot sometimes, so might it not affect your PCV later on?

[@CycleCruza]

+Chad I've never had an issue with a motorcycle battery ever except leaving my GPS on and running my battery down once on my cbr1000rr. A guy I know put his PC on the battery and has been running it for years with no problems. From my understanding, batteries only get hot when charging them rapidly. They shouldn't get hot under normal operation.

[@blueleague2377]

Can you post a video about aftermarket exhaust on liter bikes in California. I'm told they are illegal and no service dept. will install. Any thoughts on what cycle Cruza would do in this situation? Thanks bro! Keep up the awesome info!!!

[@ababbit7461]

+blueleague I live in CA. Both my Harleys and my Honda have aftermarket exhaust installed by dealers. HD will put on Screaming Eagle aftermarket stuff "for use on race tracks only" on your bike and it will not void the warranty! Shops will put them on and your receipt will say, "Not for highway use, for track use only" as a legal disclaimer. Poor cats, they get skinned all different ways - there is always more than one way to skin a cat or get around government "tax" oh I mean regulations..... The question you should ask yourself is, "Will a cop give me a ticket for an aftermarket exhaust in CA?" Answer - dependents on which side of the bed he got up from today!!! And as they say, "it is only money" and that is the American way.....

[@blueleague2377]

+A Babbit I'm I. SF not LA . They told me in SF no one is allowed to mod an exhaust. However, like you said, they told me it won't void my warranty if I did have my exhaust modified. As far as police.... In SF the PD dept. is only after criminals with guns. You can basically smoke pot right in front of PD. As long as no guns are present. I don't think they have time for loud exhaust. Especially in SF. 💯💯💯

[@UhuruFrontier]

+blueleague Well, that is just like CA; to outlaw after market exhaust because they can't control the air pollution. The problem I see is when guys put on after market exhaust, they remove the CA emissions catalytic converter as well. That is where they get into problems with the law.

[@blueleague2377]

+1AmericanInAsia haha yeah that's exactly what I want to do. Delete that cat! Louder sound and looks cleaner that way. Also removes like 9 lbs of weight right? 💯

[@blueleague2377]

+blueleague Now waiting to hear +cyclecruza response to this Cali issue for sports bikes enthusiast.

[@peternorton7665]

Yo cruza ,you should have started video on what does the power commander does

[@everss02]

+pedro quez it adjusts the amount of fuel at throttle/rpm

[@caretakerflynn2100]

Man... I set myself up for a real fucked up day again. This makes 6 accidents. 4 that I only have myself to blame. Took a corner too fast and there was silt on the road. I'm completely fine but I don't know what's wrong with the bike. The fairings are fucked but I don't really care. I was going to get new fairings soon anyway. I'll be posting the full video op on my other channel later. Thank you so much for all of your helpful videos. I need to take your advice and paint it on my tank. I ride too careless when no cars are around man.

[@CycleCruza]

+Caretaker Flynn Sorry to hear man but glad you are ok. Best of luck going forward!

[@caretakerflynn2100]

+CycleCruza to you as well, always love the videos!

[@tim285401]

Do they still make Gateway computers

[@CycleCruza]

+timmytwowheels lol idk, actually this computer was bought in 2003. lol 13 years ago!

[@Cnguyenngo]

What does a power commander really do? More torque and gas mileage?

[@CycleCruza]

+caoanngo ngo It handles the air/fuel ratio more precisely. I should get better throttle response, more power down low with the full exhaust and PC. At least that's what I'm expecting.

[@Cnguyenngo]

CycleCruza ahh i see. Just wanted to say love your content man! been watching for a while, keep it up :D

[@Marksim44]

My my my you moded it out! Question?? @cyclecruser is it true power commanders destroy bikes in the long run??

[@CycleCruza]

+King Simon I don't think so, it just corrects the air/fuel ratio for better fueling. However, the reason I bought a PC was to share the experience with you all, so stay tuned!

[@alexdiggs8566]

I'm confused.. first, it's a bad idea to get a power commander, and now it's a good idea?

[@ababbit7461]

+Alex Diggs CC is selling these types of things now so $$$ talk.

[@CycleCruza]

+Alex Diggs I People said I had no experience with a power commander so I took my viewer's advice and will try it for myself and let you all know. That video you are referring to I was just sharing some research I did on a few incidents people had with PC's. It wasn't a mass problem, just a few incidents that concerned me at the time.

[@ababbit7461]

You did a good job and it was informative. You don't need experience placing those power commanders on a bike, you do well with your "thinking vlogs." Kind of like understanding how a 747 jet works. You only need to know which seat to sit in, not how it is built or how the jet turbins work... Keep up the great vids on riding, I get a rush from your "grip it and rip it" throttle on that CBR1000 "double R" bike.

[@marksmanman96]

+CycleCruza that makes sense. Thanks for your reply

[@RahemeMatthie]

waow Cruza u made this look so easy...Thanks, love your instructional vids

[@CycleCruza]

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[@johndown4983]

CycleCuza, Do not do the performance mods. Its not worth it buddy. A 1/4 horse power here and a 1/4 horse power there. It's not worth it man. And remember, your bike still has warranty, right up till you do that stupid air flapper mod that no one thinks does much of anything! Spend the cash on a 48 tooth sprocket, "moose"skid plate, Zeta hand guards with integrated signals, heated hand grips, tail tidy kit and some better mirrors or whatever other fun stuff. Unless your going to put the big bore kit on this, ( $1000.00 ) then forget the rest of that shit. Just enjoy what she has to offer. I have the wr and have done a whole lot of research on this! Love your vids man! Keep up the great work!! JJ

[@NFFraley]

Make sure you check that battery and make sure it doesn't leak. Battery acid is nasty shit bro!

[@JojoCrazyCat]

I have joined many live chats on youtube, many times somebody will say, wish Cycle Cruza would show up at these live youtube chats. Just saying. To let you know you are liked in the Motorcycle community on youtube. I have heard them say it in several chats.

[@CycleCruza]

+Jojo Gun Fang I'm so pressed for time that the only extra time I have is editing videos for my channel. and then it's back to work flow with my business.

[@nickzaugg7440]

Just to confirm this is the first mod video correct?? Didn't want to miss any

[@CycleCruza]

+Nick Zaugg Technically, this is the second one, the first one was changing to the KTM folding mirrors.

[@nickzaugg7440]

+CycleCruza o that's right

[@mgelliott1]

CC. I've seen too many of your videos. Didn't you say DON'T install a power commander and don't mess with bike electronics due to reliability issues?

[@gorillaau]

I think CC meant don't go cutting wires in the wiring loom. Not sure why the flip flop about the power commander.

[@LifeOnTwoWheelsClips]

No. He was saying its pointless to get PC with just a slip on. I remember that video. He was still riding his 600RR.

[@everss02]

+mgelliott1 Install the software before even buying. You can compare stock map vs a close map to what you changed, if you see 10+ % leans I would get one. Lean runs hot and isn't good.

[@CycleCruza]

+mgelliott1 With a slip on you don't need a PC. I decided to try to a PC with a full FMF exhaust system (Q4 + Mega bomb header) to share the experience with my viewers, see how much of a difference there really is and to let you all know if it is really worth it.

[@UhuruFrontier]

+CycleCruza CC, if you wanted more power, why not just buy a bike that gives you more power (the 450) vise buying this bike with less power and then install a new pipe and commander to bump the power up?

[@RyanPhung725]

Yo cycle Cruza I really love ur video and I am making a dirt bike vid cause of watching you. :)

[@thebayleaf221]

*Hype for track video*

[@alexanderramsawak1026]

CycleCruza you said to keep your bike reliable and skip the power commander you have a whole video on it

[@CycleCruza]

+Alexander Ramsawak I did but people said I had no experience with a power commander so I took my viewer's advice and will try it for myself and let you all know. That video you are referring to I was just sharing some research I did on a few incidents people had with PC's. It wasn't a mass problem, just a few incidents that concerned me at the time.

[@alexanderramsawak1026]

Thanks for clearing that up

[@czaja995]

love you man sub from europe

[@CycleCruza]

FYI - Watch my first ride and review on my newly modded WR250r : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZbahWCajJqVars

[@hooliganconcepts5052]

I like your videos CycleCruze but this one has me a little confused because you have another video saying skip the Power Commander to avoid motorcycle trouble, what made you change up? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ66pH-ObdRkqcU

[@jonwright2624]

hope it was worth it . I say just ride it .

[@CycleCruza]

FYI - My wr250r 2.0 fully modded bike unveiling video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJizamiga7mlrLM

[@defundprosports6407]

so which video so i believe? the one that said power commanders aren't good for motorcycles or this one? i wish you vloggers would get your stories straight before you tell them.

[@CycleCruza]

+Ralph Bundersnatch People said I had no experience with a power commander so I took my viewer's advice and will try it for myself and let you all know. That video you are referring to I was just sharing some research I did on a few incidents people had with PC's. It wasn't a mass problem, just a few incidents that concerned me at the time.

[@slawomirkolpak7791]

just get the duke 690 man get over with it :P

[@CycleCruza]

+Slawomir Kolpak I already have a cbr1000rr which is would kill a duke 690. lol This is for my lil dual sport, you don't need a ton of power off-road.

[@slawomirkolpak7791]

+CycleCruza I love you anyway bro !!!!!!

[@woodlanswolfpack6955]

yo don t play Norman bait s on me bro

[@ababbit7461]

Awh, welcome to the world of Harley Davidson. Here is how it goes. Buy HD, add chrome, add pipes, add power commander, add Fuzzy Dice on rear view mirrors and add little bell down low for gremlins. That is why I buy used. The initial owner does all the mods and then keeps the Fuzzy Dice and little bell (to ward off gremlins - no not the cars, but little critters on the roadways) when he sells the bike for the "latest and greatest HD." So, CC, you are now venturing into Harleydom with pipe and power commander mods. I am sure there are some Fuzzy Dice and little bells out there for your WR... We Americans are so spoiled. We must have more power and different sounds on our "under engineered" OEM bikes.... ha,ha..

[@Dankyjrthethird]

"under engineered" fucking lost it

[@CycleCruza]

+A Babbit The main reason I'm doing all of these mods is to share the experience with my viewers. As you see with my cbr1000rr I usually do very little modding. However, I'm curious to see if all of this will improve the low end power. This is a bike I will keep for a long time, this a great bug out bike.

[@ababbit7461]

CC, improving that CBR - 1000 "Double R" as you always say (I like the way you say it), is like trying to improve an F14 Tomcat with some SR-71 engines strapped on for good measure - as the Koreans would say to me, "NO CAN DO GI!" Your vid was informative and well done, but I like your subjects on riding and "thinking about xx" things... The WR? It is a weak little small cc bike that is meant to be slow (compared to the SR-71 or the "Double R") so you kind of wasted money on a mod that is for Harleys (slow to go is needed on OEM factory direct Harleys). Now get back to that "grip it and rip it" throttle pinning with the big smile and yell on that CBR ---- 1000 "Double R" for us.

[@CycleCruza]

A Babbit Actually, the WR250r opens up with a PC + full exhaust and removal of the emissions crap. You need mods on the little bike, modding a big bike is a waste imo, you can only use so much power on the street and the liter bike is overkill on the street as it is.

[@ababbit7461]

CC, yes, but having a liter bike on the street is like a woman saying that "size does not matter." You know that CBR ---- 1000 "Double R" might be overkill, but it puts a smile on your face and a thrill in your soul..... Keep up the great work brother.

[@TheGamersRace]

It's not that the power commander fails to be programmable on a Mac, it's that the Mac fails to be useful. ;)