Power Scaling Ruins Dragon Ball Super

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TSO_Sage

TSO_Sage

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@dr.uchihaplays
@dr.uchihaplays 2 күн бұрын
Hot take: hot takes are the best part of this channel
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
debatable for sure. the fan manga reactions are fire.
@najibosman6497
@najibosman6497 2 күн бұрын
Eh, I use to like it but most takes are either bait or just the same points reiterated again and again. I much prefer his other stuff like the reaction vids or tier list stuff
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 күн бұрын
Depends on the mood. There are days when i don’t want to hear how Vegeta should be the main character and zamasu is top 1 villain, etc, lol
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
FAX. Allthough, vegeta main character wouldnt be bad.
@Goresh_run-my_fade
@Goresh_run-my_fade 2 күн бұрын
I like the anime reactions
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 2 күн бұрын
This has honestly been one of my favorite segments from this channel. The takes are so wild you have to hear them out 😂
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
Some of the takes here are just straight RE TAR DATION
@Mike-mb9pr
@Mike-mb9pr 2 күн бұрын
Goku vs Kefla is better fight than Gohan vs Kefla in both concept and execution. A fight being a foreshadow to a transformation 3 arcs later isn’t a good concept.
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 Күн бұрын
In concept its gohan, goku has god ki in base n struggles vs 2 female saiyans who just learned super saiyan 💀💀
@jakelongize
@jakelongize Күн бұрын
🤡
@terakoinfinity9523
@terakoinfinity9523 Күн бұрын
​@yellowviper357 he wasn't using his God ki in that battle, for stupid plot reasons. You can see this cause he goes super saiyan at some point. God ki + super saiyan results in blue, so if Goku can go super saiyan it means he isn't using God ki. Why you may ask? Idk the authors kinda forgot about God ki in base icl😭
@yellowviper357
@yellowviper357 Күн бұрын
@@terakoinfinity9523 fair enough
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
@@terakoinfinity9523 Marketing. We wanna see all of Goku's transformations in the ToP, hence why we also saw SS3 even tho he DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH IT
@Vageta1999
@Vageta1999 2 күн бұрын
I mean idk how anyone can argue against the opening take. Having the first form unlocked in super be a legit universe buster and having it absorbed into base basically made any interaction with new characters so much less believable.
@NiniTheGOAT
@NiniTheGOAT Күн бұрын
they shouldn't have made it absorb into base, they should've given us temporary SSG and have super focus on goku unlocking it on his own then maybe around the Goku Black arc he rages over Chichi and Goten's death and unlocks SSB (maybe that's still too fast, but having it unlocked due to rage just makes more sense than Goku doing it offscreen) then between this and the tournament arcs have Goku focus on training his reflexes to foreshadow UI being unlocked in ToP
@UniCops
@UniCops Күн бұрын
@@NiniTheGOAT you could even make a subplot about Whis explaining to Goku that he shouldn't focus TOO MUCH on unlocking new, more powerful forms, since that's not the foundation of a martial artist. Roshi made the same point in the manga, too. This could make foreshadowing UI (as in, a version of UI that focuses mainly on form and instinct over a literal power increase) more believable as an alternative to re-unlocking SSG again. Roshi, too, showed something akin to this in the manga and temporarily weaved around Jiren of all people - and Roshi's nowhere close to the other Z-Fighters in pure strength.
@GregSmithIII
@GregSmithIII 2 күн бұрын
HOT TAKE: Hot Takes are just an excuse for people to say the stupidest, brainrotted bullshit nowadays. What happened to meaningful, civilized, and detailed arguments and opinions??
@theblacknaruto
@theblacknaruto 2 күн бұрын
My only problem with Super Saiyan Blue is that doesn't really win any fights. You have Frieza ,who yes technically lost to blue, only lost AFTER the fact he drained his energy and destroyed the Earth. I suppose you could give the win to Gogeta but he doesn't finish off Broly because he got teleported away. It just feels like they shoulda done that form better instead of rushing.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
Blue WINS fights, its just that yall want them to finish off the big bad. If we're talking manga, oh hell yeah blue wins fights. But the anime is more on and off. But it definitely does things that are damn near close to winning. Also if you want to see blue win consistently, was SDBH. And the dumbest rebuttal ive gotten was " SDBH ISNT CANNON" For one, it is, and two, even if it wasnt, is it not a blue dub?
@theblacknaruto
@theblacknaruto 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 I mean who wouldn't want to see it finish off the big bad in an EARNED way? Getting bailed out by Whis is the reason why I hated Resurrection F. I know SDBH is cannon, ALL of Dragonball is cannon, just in different timelines. Blue by itself has never gotten a dub. It's either SsjB Evolution, Universal Super Saiyan Blue, Berserk Ssj Blue or some other variation. I mean what's the point in mastering it in the Manga only to go to Ultra Instinct and Ego?
@arpadszabo661
@arpadszabo661 2 күн бұрын
Tbh the only thing i hate about blue is its introduction. Its the only transformation that didn’t made the fight feel special by letting the characters close a huge gap. Goku went blue at a time where he was still winning against final form Frieza, then Frieza went golden and only started losing because he didn’t train 2 more minutes probably to get used to the form. But aside from that i don’t mind it. I mean, Goku literally never won a fight in ssj form after the Namek arc, never won a fight in ssj2 or 3, in canon at least.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
Uhh, im not gonna lie to you gang UI is fair game, as it was built up even before God or SSB was revealed. but ego? yeah nah that is a sell toys ass form. RoF was a bail out, and honestly, it wasnt really all that great. But to be fair, Blue is like, a filler form. to fill in the hole until Ui and Ego. Because to be honest, god wasnt going to cut it. it COULD have worked. But the power went from god level, to FUCKING ZAMASU way too quickly. They would have to reveal a new form, and if it was revealed there, it wouldnt have ANY Ws. (anime) Earned or not. And anyways, we saw blue finish off the big bad in a EARNED way. Super Saiyan Rage :D Im joking chill.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
I dont like the SSJ or SSJ2 argument, because they literally got power cliffed too quickly. He WOULDVE beaten vegeta in ssj2 if plot didnt interrupt, and he beat hirudegarn in ssj3.
@K2wasHere
@K2wasHere 2 күн бұрын
Power scaling been broken since dragon ball Z 😂😂😂
@DEATHøfKryptøn
@DEATHøfKryptøn 2 күн бұрын
No the problem is they scale it like a mortal Whis said himself that mortals can not sense Devine ki and that super sayain multiple was too little of an increase of power to measure super sayain god u need to do it in dimensions
@clouty_tv9985
@clouty_tv9985 Күн бұрын
😂😂 nah TSO that skate was by far the coldest in the tournament Him catching the beam is a tie with his just walking past topo justice flash for 2nd
@Anosscalez
@Anosscalez 2 күн бұрын
Bro, Dragon Ball super is the best, the hell are these clowns yapping
@bkay9935
@bkay9935 2 күн бұрын
Lets not lie now super is pretty subpar in terms of writing😭AND in terms of how it looks most of the time
@justgamingbro1305
@justgamingbro1305 2 күн бұрын
@@bkay9935 subpar is pretty generous
@wowwow1829
@wowwow1829 Күн бұрын
@@justgamingbro1305 subpar is fair considering the conditions
@Anosscalez
@Anosscalez Күн бұрын
@@bkay9935 The hell ,as if you know anything about writing, why don't go write you're own anime lil bro, you people think you know more about writing than the author of dragon ball who is higher than the one of one piece, Naruto and bleach ,keep coping lil bro, and in terms of looks, you can't convince me that one piece looks better because it has the worst one on all anime to this day everything is drawn bad as hell ,and the funny part is that dragon ball is more popular than all these anime with the so called "bad writing" if that was the case then it wouldn't be as popular lil bro
@NiniTheGOAT
@NiniTheGOAT Күн бұрын
​@@Anosscalez glazing super and ignoring the end of the goku black arc 😭😭
@sideman236
@sideman236 2 күн бұрын
4:37 thank you, this always happened to any multiplayer games but people wants to blame Sparking 0 like its not a common problem in the gaming community but i agree with his take
@DjPrimeVideos
@DjPrimeVideos 2 күн бұрын
No I actually agree on the power scaling take. Because now instead of Goku having to try to be stronger than the enemy, the enemy now has to be written to be somehow stronger than a God Powered Goku, which makes things look inflated as hell
@firionkaiser8291
@firionkaiser8291 Күн бұрын
I mean... it's not hard to have the enemy stronger than Goku. Plus the manga scaling has been way more consistent compared to the anime where it feels like Goku is just outright unbeatable. Granted power scaling has been bullshit since the Z era so it doesn't really matter.
@Mrniceman2
@Mrniceman2 Күн бұрын
Professional power scaler is such a funny term
@JKANE_
@JKANE_ Күн бұрын
I love SSJ3 even after realizing it's drawbacks n everything. I still think the aura and intensity it has makes it this mystical form where we get treated with randomly in little bits.
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
SSJ3 had SSJ4 aura first and people just throw it away like it never happened
@sonicthomasgamer
@sonicthomasgamer 2 күн бұрын
Imagine with a Turles movie it played into what the manga did with Goku perfected blue And Whis says they need to keep the energy contained as it can be easily absorbed by opponents who can feed on it drop a creature from Beerus’s planet that can do that or some random bug. point to nature reacting after the years of energy being absorbed by the planet, plus how little time it took to change after they attained their newer forms Goku and Vegeta using their forms leaked energy and it gets absorbed into the planet and Turles plants the tree there and gets powered up significantly There are plenty of ways for this could be impossible
@jamararrington4426
@jamararrington4426 Күн бұрын
I think we can all agree that power scaling has been broken for years, but SSG makes it that much worse. When RoF was about to come out there was a V-Jump article saying that Goku and Vegeta attained the power of SSG without transforming into it. It sounds cool and it makes sense for them to get stronger, but that means every person they fight in base is SSG level (Cabba, Hit, Frost.) and it makes it worse to be at that level and still stack everything else, along with still being able to go god. I'm not even sure what benefit they get from SSG at this point
@Alienldr
@Alienldr 2 күн бұрын
The only time i didn't like the power scaling was when characters that were established as weaker (Krillin, Master Roshi, 17&18) caught up to god level because of "i had secret training."
@thecoffeemainiak5400
@thecoffeemainiak5400 2 күн бұрын
Krillin is nowhere near god level. Roshi uses experience to win. 17&18 never trained before this point so I will admit that their sudden jump in power is bs but it's nothing new. Krillin got around 8.6 times stronger in one year at the beginning of z by doing the same training Goku did. Goku did the same training for 3X as long and only got around 1.6X stronger. So the scaling has always been bs.
@Echo-nn8dt
@Echo-nn8dt Күн бұрын
Bro Krillin did not catch up to God level. Goku purposefully pressed Krillin in God to see how he would do against an overpowered opponent and he still lost but showed he can still be tactful. Same concept for the rest they were sparring to see how everybody would fair in a real fight and did will but not once was Goku in any real danger because they are not on his level, closest one is 17 but even then Goku still wins in a real fight based on strength, 17 just has all of the advantages of an android plus he's been off screen training.
@I_love_DBZ
@I_love_DBZ 2 күн бұрын
Hot(maybe Luke warm) take: DBSZ should've been at least nominated for most anticipated game at the Game Awards. It's a game with issues but as someone who wasn't even conceived when BT1,2 and 3 came out: I was waiting for this game since it got announced. I went fucking crazy when they announced the release date. Maybe I'm just salty tbh.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
No, you're completely correct on that one. People in 2024 just have been taking the fun out of crossplay/online pvp. And you can only have fun if you play online with freinds for the most part. But the game itself is GOTY and MAG material. The reason why games like black myth get glazed (dont get it twisted its fire) is because its single player. if it was online pvp and you had ppl breathing down your neck and using cheap techs, they'd drop the game too.
@I_love_DBZ
@I_love_DBZ 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 Is Black Myth Wukong fun? Because the based on what I've heard it can be repetitive. I want to get it but I don't want it to turn into a game where you just hit a few buttons and stuff happens without it being fun.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
It is indeed repetitive, its literally wukong style elden ring, but it kinda makes it fun to progress, as you earn new skills. The story really does make it that much better.
@I_love_DBZ
@I_love_DBZ 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 Ok. Elden Ring is pretty fun but I still haven't finished the story lol(I got it last Christmas). I might get when it's on sale. Thanks for the input and Merry Christmas :).
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
I gotchu bro. Feliz navidad
@ChocolateFishBrains
@ChocolateFishBrains Күн бұрын
I'm glad that the super manga didn't use Kaioken. It never made sense since Toriyama established that it couldn't stack with SSJ.
@Yovan_Night
@Yovan_Night 2 күн бұрын
10:28 Turles is literally just the Lorax fr💀
@duddysback3780
@duddysback3780 2 күн бұрын
Sparking zeros fixes did fix so much only a couple more problems now I enjoy it
@just_sonic
@just_sonic 2 күн бұрын
Why is he saying "Dalila'' 😭😭
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan5264
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan5264 2 күн бұрын
Because it's funny😃
@TheKnizzine
@TheKnizzine 2 күн бұрын
​@@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan5264 But Donda is right there.
@marcusxfernandez3808
@marcusxfernandez3808 2 күн бұрын
It's an ongoing thing where Sage says Daima differently, as well as other related names. There is someone on Twitch in the chat that types down how to say Daima right as in "Die-mah".
@devaughnfranklin6683
@devaughnfranklin6683 Күн бұрын
Just making fun of it / having fun with it he does it with other shows
@StarAstroSpace
@StarAstroSpace 2 күн бұрын
I don’t like blue but it was only made for super if you catch my drift, it makes for a story plot of zamazu seeing mortals making fun of godly power
@geoDblitz
@geoDblitz Күн бұрын
6:26 I have never seen a better way to refer to that scene
@kaienglish271
@kaienglish271 2 күн бұрын
Why is it people think Super Broke the power scaling? We forgetting Cell about to blow up the solar system or Buu about to destroy the universe ? 😂it’s natural power progression that every Battle Shonen has.
@AChimp196
@AChimp196 2 күн бұрын
Or Roshi BLOWING UP THE MOON IN OG DRAGON BALL.
@kite36
@kite36 2 күн бұрын
Both facts. The power scaling has always been crazy.
@Kezzex
@Kezzex 2 күн бұрын
They’re not worried about the destructive scaling but the scaling in regard to how Goku/Vegeta compare to other characters. Krillin was and should never be on par and hanging with Goku in a fight whose base form is stronger than BOG SSG Goku. You fix this by not having Goku absorb SSG into his base. Then the broken scaling discussions aren’t there.
@kaienglish271
@kaienglish271 2 күн бұрын
@ This is the problem we forget about context. Earlier in Super we saw what happened what Base Goku punched Krillin he went flying. What does Goku learn punching Krillin out straight away in their sparring match before the TOP ?
@Kezzex
@Kezzex 2 күн бұрын
@@kaienglish271 Putting stock into that one punch Krillin asked him to do? It doesn't matter what the context is. That doesn't rectify the mistake, it just accentuates it and makes it worse.
@GoFro03
@GoFro03 2 күн бұрын
I believe God ki should have been completely different from ki in general or a teir that crazy impossible to reach, I honestly would have preferred goku and vegeta just washing from learning how to mix in god ki because the tournament of power made it seem like only a handful of people had God ki but everyone could keep up and fight without it even the saiyans who I guess learned God ki before super saiyan.
@duddysback3780
@duddysback3780 2 күн бұрын
I feel everybody thought like ssj3 was the shit before battle of gods came around. Now they hate on it a lot
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
The powerscal8ng is dumb but thats cuz Frieza comes back trains for 4 months or so and closes the gap ridiculously. Gohan get nerfed and comes back with training for a few days, Android 17 is Blue lvl from fighting poachers, and ToP is a scaling nightmare.
@Chilick
@Chilick Күн бұрын
4:09 toriyama literally said gohan was gonna be the next main protagonist that’s the whole reason he killed off goku. Toriyama just couldn’t write the kinda character gohan is as the MC
@Chilick
@Chilick Күн бұрын
Also, if your tired of loops pick a character with explosive wave
@Zoro_wanoarc
@Zoro_wanoarc 22 сағат бұрын
OMG I STARTED GETTING ADS FOR DELILAH TOYS 😭😭😭😭‼️
@DjTeeray
@DjTeeray Күн бұрын
I think SSJ3 should've been SSJ2, and grade 4 SSJ could've have took the design of the SSJ2 we have now, but that part isn't really important. I just think that after unlocking mastered SSJ there should've only been one more turbo charged SSJ form after that, not 2 of them. And since I love the design of SSJ3, I'd say F**C IT and just give SSJ2 kid Gohan long hair and no eyebrows😂
@elijahgooley385
@elijahgooley385 2 күн бұрын
hot take: the oh no i forgot my tractor moment makes super great.
@devaughnfranklin6683
@devaughnfranklin6683 Күн бұрын
There’s other moments so debatable
@5h0ckblock
@5h0ckblock 2 күн бұрын
No lie, a modern day Tee of Might can work, but it has to be done right. Explaining Turles strength is actually done well in Xenoverse, where Elder Kai reveals that the fruit is actually meant to be eaten by gods. So the story could be that after (somehow) surviving Planet Vegeta's Destruction, Turles while travelling space stumbles upon the tree or someone who knows about it. He learns the tree's fruit is the fruit of the gods, and that makes him think back to when Beerus came to planet Vegeta. So Turles decides to eat the fruit and roll up on Beerus to become the new God of Destruction of U7 and basically just rule EVERYTHING. That's why he goes to earth. But then he meets Goku and Vegeta, and wants to know if the Saiyan God from the stories of legend he heard as a kid can stack up against the god fruit he ate.
@justgamingbro1305
@justgamingbro1305 2 күн бұрын
buddy at 5:10 needs to return that game asap
@ic3man213
@ic3man213 Күн бұрын
I agree the manga is better written but the anime is a lot cooler. You gotta take in the fact that the anime was ahead of the manga as well which is why they are significantly different. Toei was doing their thing with the anime & toyotaru was doing his with the manga. Both only had small transcripts to work with that was just basically the plot....they both made their own stories
@RocKaFella57
@RocKaFella57 Күн бұрын
The scale is broken because goku almost died from a ray gun in SSB. Also SSB x10 Kaoiken never feels like Goku got 10 x stronger than he was as SSB
@marleymarley9584
@marleymarley9584 2 күн бұрын
“Dragon ball Delilah”
@sideman236
@sideman236 2 күн бұрын
17:23 they literally recruited the strongest fighters in all universes, what on earth does he expects goku to just 1 tap every single one?
@rvyce
@rvyce Күн бұрын
Very Hot Take: The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai is the weakest tourtament out of the 3. The 23rd WT needs no explanation. But the 22nd introduces TIEN, (and Chaotzu I guess) has peak fights, a great character arc for tien, and it leads into the king piccolo arc, that has roshi, krillin (and Chaotzu I guess) dying, which is fye🔥🔥, and it leads to Goku drawing out his potential, and him avenging his friends. And before you debate me, think about the 21st tenkaichi budokai, -EXCLUDING ROSHI VS GOKU- and tell me what’s better than the 22nd WT.
@AriesFireJ
@AriesFireJ 2 күн бұрын
Scaling comment was about Krillin fighting Goku in SSB etc
@Courier_Seven
@Courier_Seven 2 күн бұрын
Honestly i wish we could just have more serious beerus fights. Its a crime that him 1v9ing the other GoDs wasnt in the anime and i just really enjoy his design, voice and overall presence when he is serious, no forms, no ancient bloodline BS, no training montages, just straights hands and "people forgetting that IM HIM" aura. He possesses a power that insantly deletes whatever it hits but he prefers to run that fade.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
I mean, he is apart of an ancient bloodline. And we dont know if he has any forms yet. He has the power to tap into ui omen, and some sort of destroyer god form, but we really havent seen much. At one point we will get more beerus action. it would be a waste to make him exist just for him to not do that. And honestly, who ELSE is going to fight beerus. Besides that exhibition match, nothing else comes to mind. The champa fight was cut short, and they both werent using full power as to not destroy the universe, and honestly, we dont need any yet.
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 we don't know what beerus bloodline is.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
alien Sphynx iirc. Thats what he was based off of, and toriyamas cat. This was confirmed in an interview
@AZIZ_50598
@AZIZ_50598 2 күн бұрын
1:17 piccolo was there since og db
@cameronfaulkner8359
@cameronfaulkner8359 2 күн бұрын
hall of fame sayain gardner 😭😭
@childishsloth4164
@childishsloth4164 2 күн бұрын
That turles one was horrible😭😂😭😂
@thedevilsleutice
@thedevilsleutice Күн бұрын
Actually! I can give super this even if it is mostly Vegeta Frieza 17 Gohan And 18 that get any real time to shine in super. Daima seems to be having them cook. But my gosh GT was the only time where it was Goku or nothing. The best you got was 17 dog walking all of them, and Shenron dogging them in one shot
@marcusxfernandez3808
@marcusxfernandez3808 2 күн бұрын
He said it right. He said it right!
@imcgonigle2006
@imcgonigle2006 Күн бұрын
Power scaling was great in dbz but super ruined EVERYTHING about dragon ball. 4/10 show if I’m being generous. Super is utter dogshit.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 Күн бұрын
its not THAT bad. Dang. Powerscaling was just as bad in Z as it is in super by that logic.
@markvlogs1758
@markvlogs1758 Күн бұрын
While i agree that frieza is farrr better than turles, I think a story for how turles arrives on earth would be pretty simple. Of course, turles could just be munchin' fruits, but we've seen that a quality of a planet affects the amount of power the fruit gives. Think about it, jaco notifies bulma that the little amount of races in UNI 7 are dissapearing all of a sudden with the only clue that a giant tree is left in it's wake. Now with turles eating for a decade, he would definitely get absurdly strong. But I don't think god level. Of course you can give him a sorta bullshit transformation through like the fruit blah blah blah maybe like an empowered ssj. Would probably be kinda like broly where he's literally a sack of ki.
@dbza4107
@dbza4107 2 күн бұрын
4:05 Fortnite is when people realized that they can make thousands of dollars no lifeing a game and be somewhat charismatic, that and the internet just being insanely toxic since covid
@TheKnizzine
@TheKnizzine 2 күн бұрын
Why volume so low?
@TheeSinnerman
@TheeSinnerman Күн бұрын
That first one Jesus Christ this fanbase People needlessly hate powerscaling is like a Litmus test for how much of their brain they use 😂 Super saiyan God is no different than Ssj or anything like that it's just another leap in power
@symbol767
@symbol767 Күн бұрын
Bro we need you to react to Rabsopetty's Hood anime awards, he came out with a new one! "Paper Chaser Award"
@maysenkretz9835
@maysenkretz9835 2 күн бұрын
I hate to break it to yall but DB is the Goku show 😂
@ChampionAzure
@ChampionAzure 2 күн бұрын
Not me being used for the intro 😂😂😂
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
you could've cooked, but yeah nah.
@ChampionAzure
@ChampionAzure 2 күн бұрын
@crashtime3429 I was just mainly hating on Super. I wouldn't stand by that statement all the way.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
super getting hate is wild. GT is RIGHT THERE.
@ChampionAzure
@ChampionAzure 2 күн бұрын
Man these rose tinted glasses are looking pretty nice (GT is mid, SS4, Baby, Shadow Dragons, and the ending carry)
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
and I dont think GT is ALL bad. its just mid.
@jdjjdjdjdjd2475
@jdjjdjdjdjd2475 2 күн бұрын
Cold take: Mr satan could beat up any jjk sorcerer that isn’t special grade
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
If anyine wacthed DB to the end of Z it really does feel like Gohan becomes a MC you folllow him for most of the show. Not saying Goku becomea a side character but he feels only important for the fights then the development of the story. So id say Goku MC A Gohan MC B.
@dearoneshailemo983
@dearoneshailemo983 Күн бұрын
Yo, can you pls watch the newest anime hood award 🙏
@duddysback3780
@duddysback3780 2 күн бұрын
They fixed the ki blast stun
@jdjjdjdjdjd2475
@jdjjdjdjdjd2475 2 күн бұрын
Hot take: vegeta should have gave his you are number one speech when he knocked out goku, it would have made his final atonement one of the best moments in Z Also rage just needs to be an ampt up ssj2
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
Nah. He didnt have the time for that, and that also wouldnt make sense.
@AndreJones-wh2pc
@AndreJones-wh2pc 2 күн бұрын
Maybe i missed the whole point of what you said but isn't DragonBall objectively a simpler story than attack on titan? Like waaaay simpler.
@Saintdre704
@Saintdre704 2 күн бұрын
Not really into dragon ball. Can someone explain the plot?
@TheUltimateSpider
@TheUltimateSpider 2 күн бұрын
We here sage
@crownclown3519
@crownclown3519 Күн бұрын
People do be Acting like a Stronger frieza didn't get one shot by a trunks That Got one shot by 17 . scaling has been broken For a while super just Went Crazy with it but it functions the Same With the op last arc antagonist Being fodder early on
@KonEl17
@KonEl17 Күн бұрын
We're unsure of how much stronger Frieza is from his 100% form, Trunks was already a seasoned SSJ, 17 and 18 are different then there future counter parts do to differences in the timeline, Gero being android 19 and 16 all being there cuz Cell time traveling along with Trunks skewed the line may not a be a great excuse but could be a reason for the extra power.
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 2 күн бұрын
Got to love ❤ Dragonball
@BobbyRee-z7z
@BobbyRee-z7z 2 күн бұрын
I mean i get what he means for how ssj god broke power scaling as THEIRS NO WAY that some characters scale to make goku and Vegeta go god or even ssj, as your telling the UV6 Saiyans are equal to base vegeta and base goku? Despite never training? For example when tien shot down cell it was like wow he's strong enough to slow cell? now its just dosent make sense for anyone to be as strong as they are ex is krillian going ANY higher than base goku or gohan being blue level?
@harikiran4339
@harikiran4339 2 күн бұрын
Ill be honest, pacing in daima is shit.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
its not even past 11 episodes dawg.
@Shiro0001-b8o
@Shiro0001-b8o 2 күн бұрын
Hot take: Dragon Ball Z > Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball Super (TOP) > Dragon Ball Daima > Dragon Ball GT > Dragon Ball Super (Rest of super)
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
diam and GT above super is insane, even without TOP. Daima isnt finished, GT is just mid with good moments, and super has the better moments out of the two so far.
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 2 күн бұрын
cold take:gt is ass
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
Gt is mid with good moments sprinkled in there. Ass is crazy tbh.
@HTC_Galaxyy
@HTC_Galaxyy 2 күн бұрын
Ay during Raw is CRAZY but we here ᕕ(˵•̀෴•́˵)ᕗ
@thedevilsleutice
@thedevilsleutice Күн бұрын
Also yeah the super anime is cooler in the anime. Look at Zamasu in the anime listen to him talk.. then look at him in the manga. Not as cool until Trunks cuts him in half and he metal cooler clones himself. Toppo. Ultra Instict. Yeah way cooler in the anime
@kiwai
@kiwai Күн бұрын
(person who wrote the manga better than the anime take) I agree that the anime has cooler MOMENTS but outside of that the writing is pretty bad and the manga just has much better pacing and writing than the anime does
@loyisokhumalo1803
@loyisokhumalo1803 2 күн бұрын
Daima or Dilila 🤣
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
DIAMA DELILA DOUYAMA?
@sideman236
@sideman236 2 күн бұрын
3:15 what he didn't know that was Toriyama idea was to push gohan to be the main character but the fans rather Goku over Gohan and imo Gohan wasn't fit to be the main character anyways 🤷‍♂️
@harpybeagle4931
@harpybeagle4931 2 күн бұрын
It wasn’t fans, it was Toriyamas intent as stated in interviews, he felt Gohan didn’t fit the role as much as Goku did
@nickalas666
@nickalas666 2 күн бұрын
db fans love spreading miss information
@Kezzex
@Kezzex 2 күн бұрын
It was Tori that made the exec decision based off of what he thought the fans would like. Had nothing to do with any outside input. Regardless, he was right.
@Pkcondones
@Pkcondones 2 күн бұрын
BUCKO GO LIVE
@abdulrafaykhan5252
@abdulrafaykhan5252 2 күн бұрын
Bro react to officialDivine content
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
The issue with the super saiyan god scaling being the point where "it goes bad" or "breaks the power scaling" is just false. I dont like seeing this narrative pushed for the blatantly obvious reason that is the buu saga. Incoming yap session but HERE WE GO. By the way these are NOT hot takes these are objective facts that have ALWAYS been present in the series. Ultimate gohan isnt even top 2 in DBZ. For one, he moves BoG and RoF are Z movies and are cannon to the GT timeline, therefore making the power rankings almost just go back to what it was in the namek saga besides beerus and whis. Even if you go with the current timeline, ultimate gohan is only the strongest for a breif moment in the manga. Goku quite literally surpasses him easily, as gohan dosent train a day after that. Its even worse in the anime, as gohan is weaker than both goku AND vegeta by the end of the buu saga. And the power scaling was fucked even as early as OG db. We went from roshi destroying the moon at max power, to DKP literally stating that he could easily one tap the entire planet. Almost every other main z fighter in the early saiyan saga eclipses this power with ease. Dont even get me started on namek, we went from Large planetary to Solar systems to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE. Freiza being universal in namek already eclipses anything in the saiyan saga by a large margin. They then surpass this freiza in the android saga and then the saiyans, androids + piccolo INFINITELY surpass him in cell. It was always absurd, but apparently super ruined it, which is just false. People are still kinda touching the surface and understanding why goku is layers into outerversal, if you think complex multi is bad then hell idk bro. Super just expanded the cosmology, which, people dont know the DB cosmology as well as others. HOT TAKE: The power scaling of dragon ball is FINE. It fits the series for sure, as we visually see the power jumps. if the scaling wasnt like this, other charatcers wouldnt be able to keep up with others. People like to slander the humans, but like, DB humans can box with characters like rimuru and anos unironically. B-BUT GOKU IS ONLY PLANET LEVEL!!
@XdNeon
@XdNeon 2 күн бұрын
Hehe
@Person_You_Dont_Know
@Person_You_Dont_Know 2 күн бұрын
“We could’ve genuinely gotten good stuff like Dalaila-“ WHAT DID I MISS😭
@philiprodriguez4066
@philiprodriguez4066 2 күн бұрын
Br
@killermankay6668
@killermankay6668 2 күн бұрын
Hello sexy I’m second
@Person_You_Dont_Know
@Person_You_Dont_Know 2 күн бұрын
Nuh uh
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
holy freak
@Person_You_Dont_Know
@Person_You_Dont_Know 2 күн бұрын
@ Is somebody gonna match his freak?😭 Please, somebody😭😭
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 2 күн бұрын
I hope nobody dosen't as a certified, locked in, TSO official member, we do NOT claim this nga.
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