power wheel set up

This is a how to video setting up and tuning the power wheel on the AirForce Airguns.

[@romeoalphafoxtrot9517]

Great video! I recently bought a standard Condor .25 with the 24" L.W. barrel. It loves the JSB 33.95gr MkII Heavy pellets and the NSA 36.2 HP slugs. This gun has so much power and it is so accurate, I'm just blown away by it! The way I have it tuned I'm shooting the MkII Heavies around 900 fps for 61 ft lbs and NSA 36.2 slugs are going 965 fps for around 75 ft lbs. I can make them go faster than that no problem! I still need to mess with the power wheel settings and the chrono as well as getting more rounds down the pipe. This gun is a beast! So far I have shot it out to 75 yards no problem. At 50 yards it is like shooting fish in a barrel! I love it! I hope to be able to take a coyote with it someday. I know it has enough power to do it. If anyone is on the fence about getting an AirForce airgun, do it! You will be glad you did!

[@JM10344]

FOR VIEWERS:The power wheel is not really for turning up and down the power, though it does a bit. The PW is for tuning the valve operation. 3 examples. 1. High PW @ 3000psi, medium @2500pis, back to high for low bottle pressure. High to fight bottle pressure, medium when pressure behind valve is less, back to high at low bottle because your low on air PRESSURE and need the valve open longer to give time for the low pressure air out. #2 if you want to shoot the same speed, but a heavy and light pellet turn PW low for light pellet and high for heavy pellet they will come out the same speed about , punch paper save air, get good take down sacrifice a few shots. #3 put a regulator on it, then you can pic your psi, pick your barrel length, pic your pellet weight, THEN!!! you tune it all together with the Power Wheel. Great video Rick

[@MacProwler1]

Rick I like that you share your knowledge on the AirForce Condor SS 25 caliber. Love the down to earth comments and next time maybe I can be there to video the impact of the pellets at your range. Sincerely ProwlerBill

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Thank you my friend. I sure miss seeing y'all I talk with Dustin from time to time. Life certainly gets in the way of things. Hope you are well my dear friend thanks for watching. "Don't just hunt it, Airgun it"

[@paulmalec6251]

I have an Airforce Texan talonp coming soon all the information you provided in this video is top-notch thank you very much for the lesson it will come in handy

[@Richard.212]

Thanks for the information, the better we understand our guns the better we can get with them.

[@MNDashcam]

Thanks for the video. It gives me a better idea of estimating what my Condor does without the chrono.

[@mauricioperalta1979]

Thanks Rick. in your video,clearly show that the power wheel really works as intended. I read a review indicating that the wheel,was totally unresponsive to any dramatic changes of power setting,they was mentioned that from#1to#12 setting was only 30 fps. different making the wheel settings useless. as a new owner of a Air force talon ss.I am glad to have watched your video. Thanks again Rick well done!

[@agustinazaldivar9352]

Just subscribed, thank´s for this video ! I have an Talon 6.35 mm (.25) and in my AF the H&N Barracuda Hunter Extreme 1,84 gr (28.40 grains) are the best in setting #10 and fine setting also #10 for hunt to 50 m (55 yards).

[@Jesusreyes-in6xi]

It is always good to see people that reflect humbleness!!! Exelent video now im sure that the condor ss is the rifle i need, grasias amigo.

[@munkytaint666]

very informative, thank you Rick. you've inspired me to dust off my chronograph and do some testing myself

[@diamondgateAIRGUNNER]

Thanks Rick just tuned my talon P I actually thought the power wheel was two different setting but I see now that they both set the power

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Awesome man glad it helped. "Don't just hunt it, Airgun it"

[@shawndubay4050]

Yeah I absolutely love mine and it's stock. It is a tack Driving powerhouse of an air rifle. Loves the jsb king 25.39 and the jsb 33.95 mk2s. It actually hit my .22lr rated spinner target so hard it put a 1/16" indentation in the center of the paddle spinner with a jsb king 25.39. That's power!!

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Awesome glad you like it .they are amazing rifles.

[@shawndubay4050]

@@urbanairgunner6402 absolutely. It is my go to pesting rifle for around the barn. Just have to look into a good ghillie suit for me and a good ghillie wrap for the Condor SS. That way me and the rifle blend into the surrounding grass field and the pest critters never have a clue that I'm out there waiting for em. At least that's the plan.

[@MrJvela1075]

thank you RICK I appreciate you doing this video I'm a new Air Force guy and I do not know much about this pcp air guns but I can tell you I absolutely love my Talon ss . I'm getting the Talon p in 22 now .

[@paulmalec6251]

Once again thank you so very much Paul from Kona Hawaii

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Thank you sir for taking the time to watch my video I hope to have more to come soon

[@luislongoria6621]

Thanks for Clearing the Air about the Power Wheel. I was afraid you might be Limited to 16ftlbs, but you Showed 40-57ftlbs, with a Peak of 62

[@darylsapergia2856]

Good video - excellent notes on the power wheel - has been a problem with my understanding since I bought my Condor last year. Your's is the first video that explains it - thank you Rick!Until your video, I understood very little about it. I had my wheel set at 6.0 - shooting 33.1gr. H&N's. Very accurate andthe meat rabbits gone wild - I shot each - DRT! 1 heart shot, 2 head shots - all died on the spot. Dressed, they were separated into 3 packages of 3 pounds of meat each. BTW- you cannot tear off a meat rabbit's skin without cutting it first, not at all like a snowshoe hare. OH yea - tasty!!!!!!!!!!!One of these days this summer, I need to get out and do a chrono test. I also have the NOE 51gr. FN 4-cavity mould. I have moly coated the bullets and must do a chono-test on those as well. They should be great for coyotes, at high power.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Oh man thank you so much for the kind words. Good hunting stories as well.

[@wonaegun7143]

from a canadian newby thank you rick

[@ninjasamurai2953]

Great video.. Thanks for the info..

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Thank you.

[@JM10344]

Tuning tip for non chronograph owner. Keep the bottle pressure consistent shoot into something that that will trap the pellet I use candles. Start at #2-#12. When the gun gets louder and when measuring pellet depth does not get much deeper, you hit your max hammer spring tension for that bottle pressure and barrel length. At that point back the hammer off a bit. That is called a power tune. It's to open the valve as much needed for that pressure and CLOSING befor the air gets to the end of the barrel. Thats why barrel length matter. I don't get much after PW #6-7 on a 12inch barrel. Do to length of runway. 18inch barrel pw# 8-10, 24inch barrel pw#10-12.

[@TinMan0555]

I’m waiting on my .25 but have a .22 barrel coming with it. Thanks for the education.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

You are going to love it. !

[@urbanairgunner6402]

I'm sorry that the video is long. I cut it down as much as I could. I wanted you to see the chronograph results live . Thanks for watching.

[@darylsapergia2856]

Rick - please call them - DIE - AH - BO(hard O) - LO (diabolo) not DEE - AH - BLOW (diablo)Diabolo is the shape of a pellet having a waist - diablo is a devil of some-such thingvideo was great, otherwise.Be assured, you are not alone in your pronunciation of diabolo - most people mispronounce this descriptive word.Calling a diabolo pellet diablo is similar to calling a hollow point long range target bullet, a round nose- or conical bullet.

[@firehawk3125]

Video is long bc it’s very informative! If someone has a complaint they could have stopped watching and figured out all this stuff for themselves. Thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos.

[@KINGTERIK]

Thanks for your time and information

[@JM10344]

No Rick you did great the best AF video on KZbin. Iv watched it 20 time. I like it and your funny. Between 8 & 10 ... 9 daa! Had me going .

[@christophermorley4572]

Great video Rick thanks. I would love to see you repeat the process with the 50 grain hollowpoints you refer to. What sort of fps do you get out of the 50 grains with that gun please? Those JSBs are my favourite pellets in my 25 cal Condor as well. I also like the 31grain Baracudas, which are almost as accurate but that little bit heavier.

[@HunterDJM]

Nice video

[@Anonymous357333]

I have a Condor SS and always wanted to know what the FPS at the different settings. Thank you for this

[@urbanairgunner6402]

You are so welcome I'm glad you enjoyed it and that it was helpful.

[@willardjones3796]

Hey Rick try the crow magnum pellets and the silver bears pellets and the red pellet that work great in the talon p 25 cal all day bro try it let me know what you think of those three pellets if you looking for knock down power you want be disappointed in that rick

[@narrowpath2980]

finally step by step back yard balistics

[@rodneyheath9435]

Rick that was a great video understand the wheel setting a lot better how about the air valve adjustment? (Hope to hear back from u) Thanks

[@jamesd.5940]

Great Video AG Brother!!! I hated original AF guns. Those top hats with grub screws SUCKED! Talon Tunes or your own machine shop was the only way to go. The new Spin Lock tanks, and adjustable threaded top hats w/ various size ports from "The Spin-Loc" set have made these EXCELLENT for their price. I have 5 tight tolerance bushings, a quad rail rides 2 at each end. One against the power wheel. I have a heavy 115 gram no slap from PCP Tunes, a 10 coil TT's heavy spring and running a .166" or .187" top hat. That beast sends Griffin 2 stroke swaged 28 grain RBT slugs at 1070fps. A DonnyFL Emperor on threaded barrel. Runs best from 2750 down to 2500psi. I run tethered on a Bench so 2500psi is fine. The slow 1:17.7 twist choked LW is also sending 32 grain .412" OAL slugs at 1040fps. I JUST GOT The Emperor & barrel threaded. So I can actually try the 34-44 grain RBT Griffins. If it stabilizes the.217" OD .500" OAL 44's oh man. I'm more than happy with the 32's @ 78 ft/lbs. Unless you're willing to upgrade your barrel, add bushings, quad rail, maybe carbon fiber vacuum wrap your barrel (John Bowman can do it right) but 80ft/lbs is pretty dang good for a .22 These component guns are fine for up to 60-80ft/lbs. Otherwise get a custom Scandalous that actually has 3" finely threaded into the monoblock. That is my 300+ yard precision shooter. 600 yards is easy for that Scandalous .257 But I'm in love with my little .22 & 28-32 grain RBT slugs for targets out to even 400. Run tethered with a step down in-line reg if you're serious about groups at long range. There's no other affordable way. Yeah onboard Regs are available now but 10 -20 shots and a spread ain't my thing.

[@JM10344]

Yes this is the best AF video. AF is losing so much in sales because they do not regulate it and have videos out explaining how to work the functions of the gun for the length barrel you have.

[@carlmatera332]

There are four adjustments, from highest to lowest. 1-Fill pressure 2.Valve size (if you have the SpinLoc valve kit) 3.The number on the slider 4.The number on the knurled dial You really need to know all 4 to get accurate settings.

[@bctpcp9546]

Yeah if you force that indicator allen bolt it will break as it's only made from plastic and it inserts into the plastic power wheel, neither of which are indestructible. Just cmae across your channel, am a hunter too, will subscribe.

[@Wingman115]

Great info.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Wingman115 thank you !

[@freedomchannel3656]

Mr hollowpoint told me I should crank my power wheel all the way up and run it at full power all the time.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Yes you can leave it all the way up if you want too . But if you want to be precise with shot counts and air management then It all depends on the caliber and weight of the projectile that you are using. If you shoot across a chronograph you will be able to see the difference in shot counts and speed.. that is the great thing about these guns having adjustability. Sorry for the long answer hope this helps lol.

[@seaskiff20]

Could be wasting a lot of air for no reason. ....same result at a lower setting, pellet depending.

[@AlbeeSoaring]

I have noticed that with liter pellets or slugs that the power wheel adjustment from mid to high isnt much change like what you show in your video but with heavier slugs the change gets more dramatic from mid to high on the power wheel.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

That is correct I believe I said that with a lighter pellet you do not need all that are where the heavier pellet you need a little more air to push it down the barrel to help stabilize it with a light pellet you're just wasting air

[@AlbeeSoaring]

@@urbanairgunner6402 sorry I must have missed that in the video. I watch it at work so sometimes I miss little bits of info like that. I got a lot out of this video though thank you

[@urbanairgunner6402]

I'm old maybe I thought I said it lol I think I was blabbing about 25.39 g jsb and 50 ghp .I haven't watched it in years lol. No worries but you are absolutely right though just running the dial up can waist a lot of air if you are shooting a light pellet. It will only go so fast . Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. I do appreciate it.

[@denster274]

Just a point of interest. If you fill to 2750psi you will start at the higher velocity rather than climbing to it.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

denster274 correct. You are at the top of the bell curve. But it also depends on projectile weights also. Great point. Thanks.

[@lukes-uf4bc]

very good test!!!! thanks

[@johnbaki7053]

ok i'm sold

[@sotheamam1244]

Good video thanks

[@sotheamam1244]

I top off my 2k too..my is .177 cal at home I set low power to 1..13 is very loud

[@mikeanderson2404]

Just got my chrono yesterday from Caldwell but still waiting for my scope rings. (I had ordered BKL 1inch instead of 30mm- my bad) and heavier pellets from Eun Jin. I bought some lighter ones at the show in Poolville and found they are super sonic so I ordered the 28 and 32g to try. Had to try the chrono firing blind to check the speed and was 1100 on my .22. After watching this video I am going to crank it way down from the factory setting of 6-6 and find my sweet spot. I have some sparrows that keep killing my baby bluebirds and will actually kill the momma too and lay their eggs on top of the body. So I am anxious to get set up and going and send them to sparrow heaven. Good video to take the time and show the whys and why nots.

[@eaamonmangan4601]

Mike Anderson you might just check, it is usually a brown headed cow bird that does that. female is not the black with brown head it looks more grayish. the female is smaller than the male, they parasite all song birds not just blue birds. they let unsuspecting parents raise them. the cow bird lays about 80 eggs in its lifetime, almost wiped out the bluebirds.

[@eaamonmangan4601]

Mike Anderson one more thing there was a PBS show on those cowbird detailing their destruction several years ago.

[@eaamonmangan4601]

Mike Anderson go to PBS.ORG and search out gangster birds or cowbirds, look under transcripts for typed story. there is a video available. welcome to a new fight. www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/nature/gangster-birds.html August 25,2009 air date

[@mikeanderson2404]

Think you are right about the cowbird;however, articles do say the sparrow will lay eggs inside also. Will attempt to discourage all of them :)

[@eaamonmangan4601]

Mike Anderson true about some sparrows laying in others nest but I think it happens after theirs was destroyed by a cowbird and they have eggs not layed yet. I believe recently I heard of birders recommending a 1 5/8th inch hole bird house entry, because it prevents the cowbird from entering and causes them to loose their egg on entering. I really love my 25cal airforce rifle. it replaced a Benjamin 22.

[@Dogsulsniper]

Nice...

[@stedyone1090]

Just subscribed. That's right

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Thank you 👍

[@sotheamam1244]

When you adjust from low to high power is your target off an inch..and so loud at high setting (13)

[@shawndubay4050]

Thank you for the informative and great video. I did a stupid thing. I was adjusting the wheel down and it didn't seem like was it too much but I got the wheel stuck at the lowest power. I need your help to resolve this issue. I thank you in advance for any help you can give me in fixing my rifle.

[@Dutch.1722]

You can get by well enough on that.

[@bonsolid933]

Nice Vid.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Thank you

[@kkandretti]

Hi I have a question, just got one myself and i am wondering about the testing date on the HPA Tank... mine says 12@16, does that mean its already needing to be pressure tested by a certified company? or is that the Born Date of the tank? Thanks in advance.

[@jeffgrencik7213]

btw at the lowest power my .22 condor throws pellets at a max of 1020 , ave.975 over 25 shots.then it starts dropping quickly.

[@stedyone1090]

Are those out of the box numbers? No mods..

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

What grain of pellet ?

[@rudychavira5558]

Sorry to take you off subject looking to get a great sling set up, what is your front and rear set up?

[@urbanairgunner6402]

No worries it's all from airforce Airguns website under accessories

[@julesgardet659]

Sold ... Talon SS it is, Zanz !!

[@sotheamam1244]

I kept my at the very lowest setting 1 at 40 feet away it still has enough power to brake a jack Daniel

[@MegaCyberleader]

lol my condor cost over 2000's with out the scope. But I did get a nice scope for free in one of thier packages

[@putrathehunter3336]

What about afc caliber 177mm adjustment power,becuase in indonesia if you have big caliber you should have alisence from polis departement..so what sould be I do for ufgrade my condor 177 power,thank u

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Get a .22 barrel to upgrade.

[@putrathehunter3336]

@@urbanairgunner6402 that is problem in indonesia you should be have lisence to have barrel more than 177 caliber,

[@urbanairgunner6402]

What about a .20 cal. They come in 177,20,22,and 25

[@tedsell1455]

My .357 Texan use about 80 lbs per shot

[@wanswansl7762]

what is the best setting to shoot a distance of 100 yards using 25.39g pellets?

[@MrCountrycuz]

Where in South Ga are you at Rick?

[@rmslim1]

Yeah, where are you at in S. Ga? I'm in central Ga. Ive also got an SS in. 25. and sure would love to knock some squirrels or hogs.

[@jeffgrencik7213]

pressure in the tank dropped allowing the valve to open more resulting in the fps climbing as the gun was shot, needs a regulator.

[@johnkerchner6351]

My power wheel seems stuck and not turning. Any suggestions?

[@kiddg447]

7:52 that's what we all think 😂😂

[@rayhart7753]

Why do you keep topping your rifle up . Has your rifle got a particular pellet and a sweet spot ?

[@derrickchen8122]

Would you please shoot the largest pest that Airforce Condor can have clean kill when you get the chance? I just put my deposit to my trusted air gun distributor and wanting to know this to double the security and confidence. Thank you in advance.

[@chanelranh9547]

how do bullets shoot correctly

[@alltsab]

Do you know how to adjust the trigger?

[@urbanairgunner6402]

It is an none adjustable trigger. It is a fixed 2.5 lb. Trigger. The shoe can be adjusted up and down that's all.

[@alltsab]

@@urbanairgunner6402 thanks for reply back appreciate. It's said 2 stage trigger what is that mean?

[@sargentt6003]

@@alltsab If you dont already know this you have no business with a Condor or a high-pressure tank. Stay with the break barrels and someone will live longer LOL!

[@thegothicairgunner6731]

Rick, have you tried the H&N Grizzly? My Condor gets better groups with the Grizzlies than the JSB's. I do have the RL Extreme valve. But even stock it shot the grizzlies fantastic.

[@urbanairgunner6402]

+TnT Air, The Gothic Airgunner I have and they shoot good but my gun just seems to like the JSB. I have not modified my gun I like showing people how good it is right out of the box. I know that there are a lot of mods for it.

[@tedsell1455]

Grizzly s shoot good in my 25 talon and hit hard !

[@tedsell1455]

Yes my Talon likes the grizzly 31 gr

[@ericthigpen241]

where at in GA are you?

[@sotheamam1244]

How many shots do you get for a high level power

[@urbanairgunner6402]

It all depends on the weight of the projectile, caliber and how you are tuned. I almost always top off my tank at 2k psi.

[@DarkWolf-og4or]

Do I need a fill pro for it or what

[@skinnymitchairgunbrotherho7152]

this is the 25 caliber Condor SS correct and do I need tall short medium scope rings for this what do you recommend

[@urbanairgunner6402]

skinny Mitch pettengill that is going to depend on how tall you are Etc I'm a big tall guy so typically I mount my scope using taller rings and sometimes a picatinny rail riser or something of that nature because with an air rifle when you're not shooting out past a hundred yards most times so you can sight it in for say 75 yards and you know that your holdover will be a certain amount at 100 yards or your hold under will be a certain amount so the alignment of the scope to me is not as critical as it would be on a firearm so I tend to mount my Scopes little higher than most people thank you for watching the video I hope that helped

[@webreakforsquirrel4201]

I see you there skinny Mitch pettengill.👋😁

[@Tslegacy]

Where can I purchase the rail mounts for the bipod sir?

[@urbanairgunner6402]

www.airforceairguns.com www.airgundepot.com

[@stedyone1090]

Nats suck. No see ums here in Florida eat me up. Nice video. I do pest removal too.

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[@gregwhittington5429]

Can you shoot slugs from this rifle

[@urbanairgunner6402]

I do 50ghp from mrhollowpoint.com

[@matthewking6169]

Hey Rick, What setting on the power wheel do you use for the 50 gr hollow points? What kind of fps do you get on that setting? thanks and keep up the good work!

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Matthew King I run it up to 9-10 it's been so long since I check the speed I think it was around mid 9s my crony craped out as so I. As I get a new one I'll try to run some test for everyone. Tha is for watching

[@stedyone1090]

@@urbanairgunner6402 50 grain 25cal. Man, I'll bet they are very long. You say Mr. Hollowpoint?

[@h20hawgs]

Rick,I gotta ask... I shoot a Texan and its new to me. Got it zeroed in at 50 to drive tacks. I am using hunting 310 grain hollow points if that matters. Looking at my power wheel no marks just far right and far left adjustment. On the Texan is highest to the far right or far left firstly???I think once I know that I will just set it at 90 percent open hard hitting and should be fine. Not worried about losing air got plenty of that. Just need to know if right or left is more power. Thanks for the help in advance. Its not clear anywhere about this with Texans...

[@marci2784]

Tim White

[@tedsell1455]

I believe to yhe right to get more spring tension , witch opens valve more 😎

[@islacouledouce]

Texan and Talon P Extreme right = max power Extreme left = minimum power

[@DarkWolf-og4or]

Can it kill a coyote

[@brassmonkeymoto4798]

whats the caliber? 25 or 22?

[@tedsell1455]

25

[@narrowpath2980]

what scope you have

[@urbanairgunner6402]

SUPAFREAK I like the Hawk optics but I use several different brands. that is an old Burris on this gun.

[@drywallman1986]

It's not diablo. Read. It's diabolo

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Dyslexia it really sucks

[@carsmax]

has this gun a regulator ?

[@urbanairgunner6402]

Carsten no it does not.

[@ke6ziu]

H&N Grizzly slugs are far superior!

[@urbanairgunner6402]

www.mrhollowpoint.com