That would be a very good way to promote these kits, and even selling the appliance that the kit could run. I've had solar lights for quite a while.
@sandramiller69962 күн бұрын
Another good selling point for solar. Sounds like a suggestion from God.
@marydaley786225 күн бұрын
I can tell from how smart you work that you are a credible , experienced workman...gives me confidence in you and your advice, Thank you very much for sharing your experience & knowledge
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
Thank you !!
@Arizona-SlayerАй бұрын
Great video! If you bought a 12v fridge, it would run longer without having to convert the DC power from the battery to AC through the inverter. There are some decent 12v fridges out there.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! I think thats a good point . I bought the one for my camper build from an RV surplus store brand new and love it . honestly if I had a good spot for full sun all day on the panels it would probably be no problem for the ac fridge too
@johnhine8725Ай бұрын
Ryan you do things right and it’s nice to see. Getting me thinking about changing my plan for my future river property and going new construction. Thank you!
@kyfeam28 күн бұрын
wife and i are going off grid on a 2 acre piece of land we bought in Nevada next April.. bought 1000w of solar and have 4-100 amp lipo batteries.. taking these 7 months to learn everything i need to live off grid.. bought 2 mini splits for A/C and diesel heaters for heat at night.. the mini splits can also be used for heat.. but eat allot of battery power.. still figuring the water situation.. but plan on using 2-275 gallon IBC totes.. fortunately Nevada gets tons of sun.. so wont have solar issues there.. all our solar is from Renergy too.. nice vid!
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
Man that sounds like it's going to be a great setup . you're going to have a great time !! Thank you !!
@BradScott-ys6otАй бұрын
I cant tell you BlackSpruce… i have so much awe and respect for your skill set, and the security your are able to provide a family. I feel it is hands down, the most important and valuable possession to be had. You and those around you are so fortunate. Thank you for sharing this beauty and strength. 🙏🏻🍻
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks so much !!
@johnhine8725Ай бұрын
Always a treat to see your processes carried out. This gives me more hope that I can make an off grid work if and when I get my riverfront property. Good ol Charlie!!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! he's such a good boy ! any specific river you're hoping for ?
@johnhine8725Ай бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 upper manistee between ccc and Lucas
@SwedenLover09015 күн бұрын
Super! I love your cabin and your channel. Nice work. 🎉
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
Thank you !!
@Rawry202412 күн бұрын
love your channel; will pass it along to hubby!
@blackspruce18619 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@erniepaulin1981Ай бұрын
Glad to see (view) your new post. Great watching you. Getting ready to go off grid for my office, work area and warehouse. Keeping my one eye on you.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! glad you liked it . that sounds like a cool project
@bowslapАй бұрын
More than one way to have electricity without being “on the grid”…..I’ll have to look further into this. Thanks for sharing this information with us, Ryan!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
NO problem glad you liked it !
@klav5930Ай бұрын
Pretty sweet system! Can’t wait to see what’s next!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
yeah it works great !! I've got a couple projects in the works , might be a little while I just tore a calf much so I'll be moving slow for a bit I'm guessing .
@yvettekinchking8838Ай бұрын
Any fool like me can follow your instructions and explanations. 😅😅 you're a great teacher..😊
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@jimsteele7108Ай бұрын
Great addition to that lil cabin.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
yeah I like it thanks !!
@rsinfelt1Ай бұрын
If you double the solar and the battery it would be enough to run smoothly. If you need another Chg Controller you could always add one & run them together. Also, always hook the battery up first so the charge controller knows what to charge, otherwise it could damage it. Nice, neat system, solid.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! if I just had full sun it would do it no problem
@remotetrapper899129 күн бұрын
Excellent setup, beautiful install !!!
@blackspruce186129 күн бұрын
Thanks !!
@FordDude66Ай бұрын
Nice kit. It looks like a clean install. That should give you all the power that you will need at the cabin with out using a generator. Todd from da U.P.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
yeah so far it's pretty nice ! thanks Todd !
@w.w.882318 күн бұрын
Thank you. A very informative and enjoyable video. I have a 130 watt, 12V solar set up for LED lighting only. I can see that the inverter etc is a useful upgrade.
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
no problem , glad you enjoyed it !!
@wattsadonnasaurs4810Ай бұрын
A full frig uses less power, fill it with bottles of water GREAT video !!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks , glad you liked it !! I wondered if that would help just having something cold in it
@aminutetomidnite2406Ай бұрын
Nice video Ryan. At my cabin I have a small chest fridge which I run from my solar power. What I now tend to do is put the fridge on a simple mechanical timer, and at night when it's generally cooler ( at least here in NZ that is how it is) the fridge goes off for most of the night, just coming on occasionally for a while during the night. Then when the sun comes up and until sundown the fridge runs all the time. I can get away with it running all the time if the days are sunny, but if cloudy or raining for a couple of days the fridge runs my batteries down if it's on all night. Works this way for me anyway.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! that sounds like a really good set up
@MasterChief4U29 күн бұрын
50watts that system should run a Mini fridge for 160 hours...But the real issues is his solar is no in the sun most the time. As you need to charge the battery back up to 100%.. So either increase the amount of solar or install them where you get the benefit of of the Sun all day long. I run one on 100ah and 220 watt panel. It will run the fridge for 3 days..
@scottfoster2487Ай бұрын
Adding a secon set of panels in a differnt spot and second batterywould give more capacity on low solar days. Good review of a simple to install system.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I thought of that too . I think just another set of panels on the other side of the cabin and a second charge controller hooked to the same battery would be enough for me , or just opening up the area a bit for more sunshine would be enough or maybe an elevated stand . the kit is enough it's just the lack or sunny hours . even then its plenty for what I really want
@ksredsfanАй бұрын
Really nice setup looks like a pretty good upgrade from previous plus your videos are always informative on what your doing thanks Ryan and keep posting brother enjoy them all
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Yeah it's quite a bit more than what I had ,Thanks I'm hoping to get them rolling out a little more often this fall and winter
@richkid89907 күн бұрын
Great video simple solar set up
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
Thanks !!!
@junkerzn73124 күн бұрын
Nice little system. Starting small to get some experience and then expanding as-needed is the way to go. You'll want to add a lot more solar for sure. You don't have to worry about hot spots developing on panels that small, but shade always does a number on production so reducing shading (when possible) is a pretty big deal. One of the things you need to do is to determine how much actual energy you are actually getting daily from those solar panels (in watt-hours). With decent sun this will typically be the solar panel wattage x 4 or x 5, but when you have shading or the panel is pointing in a non-optimal direction, this can be x 2 or x 3. So, for example, 400W x 3 = 1200 Wh. If the inverter is left on 24x7 it has an idle draw of probably around 10-15W. 15W x 24h = 360 Wh, so the inverter overhead is likely eating a large chunk of the generation you get from the panels. Adding more panels to the system solves most problems like that. Your overheads remain fairly static while adding panels gives you more and more energy. A small fridge averages (taking the cycling into account) 12W to 30W. A full sized residential fridge averages around 60W. 30W x 24h = 720 Wh. So the fridge plus the idle overhead of the inverter is already going to eat 1100 Wh or more. You DEFINITELY need more solar panels... at least double what you have there, to achieve a good comfort level. The more the merrier as they say. Note that adding battery capacity does not increase your energy production, so no matter how much battery capacity you have if the solar panels can't keep up they will eventually become empty. Focus on adding more panels first, for sure. Having more panels solve a lot of problems. -Matt
@af102315 күн бұрын
Awesome workshop, thank youu
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
thanks ! ,
@beckypennington79Ай бұрын
I'm glad you had your puppy to keep you company cuz those bugs were sure trying to keep you company
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Oh man the gnats have been horrible this year . This has been one of the best summers I can remember not too hot nice mix of rain just a perfect year and those stupid gnats have made it almost unbearable
@djrtime1398Ай бұрын
Nice setup. I almost went that route for my off grid family campground. But I bit the bullet and bought an all in one Anker power station. It’s portable. Powerful with outlets everything from usb-c to 240 split phase in case that welding ambition ever takes off, lol. I too am in deep woods and very solar challenged so I have to recharge with an ultra quiet inverter generator. It will fully charge the PS battery in 3 hours and at my usual consumption rate, I can go almost 24 hours on battery alone.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !!! yeah I love the trees and have no desire to cut them down but sure would help with solar . I'd rather have trees and adjust though
@72Dexter72Manley72Ай бұрын
I did the same with 2 Bluetti Power stations. No way would I leave my set-up in a cabin. I just disconnect my panels and strap them to the roof rack of my truck. Load up the power stations and my tools, I'm on my way back to civilization.
@ladyketurahinwaitingАй бұрын
For the price it should install itself! Wish I could get onto but I am 70 and due to serious health problems diagnosed in December I had to given up my job 😢in late March so now I only have SS. Praying and believing for miraculous complete healing, and miraculous affordable solar system.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that , I'm wishing you a speedy recovery
@frank4fun64Ай бұрын
As always, very informative. Great setup you have
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thank you !!
@davidmonnin2792Ай бұрын
Awesome upgrade! Thanks for the content!!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !!!
@samhill3496Ай бұрын
Great looking kit and job. Finally good components that are as close to plug and play as one needs. My friends on 'SIMPLE LIVING ALASKA" channel have done a large setup for their shop. Might want to check out that vid sometime. It's come a long way in a few years. Is there ability to control the unit with a phone APP? Some have that as you can monitor temps and need to remotely turn on system to provide power for heat, etc. Now, I would look at a different frig setup. Maybe a more efficient unit. Also get a power system, Anker, other brands, to plug into the solar unit and then plug the frig into it. A lot more storage capacity along with an extra battery. Put the frig system on a timer. Make sure to check the ground connections after say a month of use. They will loosen up with heat of use and cold of location. The solar panels need rack mounted toward the winter sun with clear skies. All good. Some tweaking but you did a great job. Killer discount on those units. From what I have seen that's a really good brand. All good from east Kentucky USA. Next time
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! I think it has some app compatibility stuff but I would guess I would have to have Internet at the cabin for it to work . I probably wouldn't use it anyways lol I like it simple . I could see using a DC fridge like I put in my DIY camper build I really like that fridge . I already have a really awesome power station the vtoman 1500x I did a review on it. Yeah man it's quite a big discount and so far I'm really happy with the kit . sounds great see ya next time !!
@MasterChief4U29 күн бұрын
Great job.. Only thing I would change is add #8 solid wire to the ground rod. Then run it around the cabin back to the ground rod. "Without any breaks in it" As it's a myth a ground rod alone works unless you do. Why the NEC code book says you have to do the same thing around the Pool or Sauna. This gives the short to ground a large surface area to bond to. As short to grounds seek the path back to the Source..
@blackspruce186129 күн бұрын
Thanks !!
@markchapmon8670Ай бұрын
Overall a nice clean install. But, (if you did this off-camera, I apologize) I would make a fail-proof as possible way to latch the solar prop rods in place when they are tilted away from the wall and another for when they are hanging vertically. If the weather got really strong and it managed to pop those panels up a couple inches, those panels banging down on the side of the cabin would be of great concern to me.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! thats probably a good idea . the cabin is so surrounded by woods I don't think that should be very like but it never hurts to take an extra step , so I might. just do that
@mywoolmittenАй бұрын
Thank you, this was very informative and sounds like a good system!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks glad you liked it !! yeah it's doing good !
@kingrafa3938Ай бұрын
Nice set up Ryan!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marydaley786225 күн бұрын
Also. you're nice & thoughtful of the dog, and live in the world of knotty pine, like me!
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
Nothing better than not pine and good dogs !
@MontanaManOfficialАй бұрын
@blackspruce, Ryan, Nice install! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼Just for clarification, AC grid power is not clean power, it is dirty power. AC power has spikes (as evident by its name alternating current) quite often, hence why all electronics today highly recommend using surge protectors to protect sensitive electronics from those spikes and surges and abate damage. I have set-up many systems using inverters and I recommend people to buy modified sine-wave inverters and use surge protectors, just the same as they do with grid power. Modified inverters are much cheaper initially and cheaper to replace when they go bad, which they do. I have seen too many pure sine-wave inverters go bad internally and the pure sine (surge protector) part fail and not protect electronics.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! I'm just going by what I've read online . I'm definitely not an expert on inverters
@rodmartel314321 күн бұрын
Have a similar system, but a RICH controller which is basically a clone. Some suggestions: 1. I have an outside receptacle for my Honda generator wired to an EZ TRANSFER ($99) switch in the cabin in case I need to top off. When the Generator is on it powers my AC directly AND automatically powers a permanently mounted Bluetooth Victron charger. 2. I wouldn't use the LOAD function if I were you. I did some experiments and it has a phantom draw when the internal switch is closed EVEN WHEN YOUR LOAD IS NOT ON! 3. I run a mini fridge no problem with my 200 amp battery and 400 watt panels, but do have sun. 4. FYI...I double wired my space for 120ac AND 12 volt for lights, so save power that way. 5. Consider a 12volt fan in your new battery box.
@blackspruce186120 күн бұрын
Hey Rod thanks for the tips !
@kirkdesmondАй бұрын
great job, looking for the winter update on it.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !!
@sandramiller69962 күн бұрын
Thank god! A complete kit. I have a very small insulated area in my garage that is for emergency purposes. The sq. Ft. Is 8×8×8. What kit would be appropriate to run a space heater(on electric power that heats the small enclosed area)?
@blackspruce1861Күн бұрын
I honestly don't know . I'm not a solar expert by any means . I do know there would be a lot of factors . how well is it insulated , how cold are the winters where you live , basically how often or consistently will it run ? space heaters normally use 750-1500 which is quite a lot to have running all day
@charleshutchings9355Ай бұрын
It looks like a nice system. I like everything you've done so far since I've been watching. You do everything nice, and neat. Thanks for the update!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Yeah I'm really happy with it so far . thank you , really do like to keep it neat especially my wiring . glad you enjoyed it !!
@RandyBeersАй бұрын
Very well done procedural video! Nice to see how you upgraded your power system. Was the fridge pretty empty when you were testing it? If you keep it fairly full, it probably won't cycle as much, but like another commenter mentioned, maybe a 12 volt fridge would be better. And maybe add some sort of insulation layer around the fridge.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! yes it was empty , I was thinking that might make a difference too , especially if I froze some stuff in the freezer, portion . I really like the dc fridge I put in my camper build , and think it would do a lot better too
@KingStivanАй бұрын
here is a tip :> get a cheap (10~15$ ) smart plug that is compatible with tuya and get a light sensor again compatible with tuya and put the sensor next to the panels and plug the fridge into the smart plug , now u need to program the plug to turn off on its own when the sun is low and thats it ^^ u can leave it on forever and it will power on when it can ^^
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I'll have to look into this Tuya I'm not familiar with that . sounds like an interesting way to go
@martinvandenberghe453119 күн бұрын
Nice kit, de only issue i see is the 3000w inverter i think a bit overpowered, just saying😊
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
yeah I like it !! well that depends on what you want to do , a circular saw has a starting wattage of around 1600 watts nice to have more than enough
@sandramiller69962 күн бұрын
In the Midwest I'd suggest a small and "simply safe" heating unit.
@EricSkogenАй бұрын
Ryan, you should look into cold temperatures and lithium batteries . They say you shouldn't charge them in cold weather .You might have to take the battery back with you between times at the cabin.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I think im going to install a small propane wall heater and just keep the cabin over 40 degrees . I think the battery is fine down to 30 it is a self heated battery though
@ObibenneАй бұрын
The fuller your fridge is the less it will cycle on and off. If right now if only has air in it it would explain faster cycling than expected. The more thermal mass in there, the slower it will warm up and need to kick in again - when it does it might run longer than it does now.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
That makes good sense !
@garrettblasterАй бұрын
I’m about to wire my cabin but I was thinking of putting a camper fridge with the optional propane since I’ll have a propane stove and probably 50lb tank
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thats a great way to go , lots of people use propane fridges , and really handy for winter when there's less hours of daylight
@matthewclarke2034Ай бұрын
Hi Ryan, great video, and hello from Nova Scotia. When you do your planned “update” video, could you explain a little more about what the “combiner box” does? I have a very similar system at my off grid cabin (390w panels, Renogy MPPT charge controller, single LiPo battery and inverter), but no combiner box. I run lights, power for propane water heater, and pump off of the 12v dc (I have a propane mini fridge). Breaker/fuses at certain points in the system. Not clear on what the combiner box is doing. You referred to the buss bar so maybe it’s a point for connecting more circuits/devices - like a fuse or breaker panel. Anyway, I’m interested to learn more about it- thanks. Oh yeah - as to the fridge cycling, once you have a bunch of food and drink in there that has fully chilled, it is likely that the fridge will maintain the lower temperature more constantly and require less cycling and power consumption.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Hi , that really is about all the combiner box is . basically a junction box with buss bars so you can connect all your DC circuits there instead of having a bunch of stuff connected to the battery terminals. I wondered if the fridge would cycle less with cold food in it . that does make sense Thanks !!
@user-TheNorthernSaintАй бұрын
Great Show, you deserve a big plate of blueberry pancakes. One request please, Charlie needs more air time.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! that sounds like a great idea . Charlie gets pretty bored with wiring jobs lol . he'll surely be around on the next one
@ShadowMoonFarmsАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
My pleasure thanks for watching !!
@normagallardo2539Ай бұрын
When you cutting any type of plywood and you need an extra hand. Use a bench weight. It will help more than you think.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
thanks good tip !
@lophophorawilliamsii9740Ай бұрын
Nice kit
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !!
@JJ-gd7gfАй бұрын
At 8:42, turn your wire downward under your clamp instead of looping down and then turning up. That will keep a straight path for a more efficient ground.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
that really wouldn't make any difference in the path to ground but it would make it easier for the wire to get ripped out of the clamp
@dabaydestrian437Күн бұрын
Do you go to your local real estate agent to buy land like this? The same way you buy residential homes?
@criticaleventАй бұрын
On sale for $2,375.99, that's a pretty good price for what you get. It didn't cost me much less than that to build a similar capacity system with lead acid AGM batteries.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thats good to know . the only system I've done otherwise was a cheapo kit
@dnhmanАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing, neat job. So does the inverter connect to the load of charge controller?
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! the inverter ties directly to the battery through the combiner box
@johnetheriedge86755 күн бұрын
What dealer did you purchase your Renology system & what is a ballpark total investment$$
@wkuadkinsАй бұрын
great vid thx
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks , glad you liked it !!
@blackbuttecruizrАй бұрын
Imformative video!
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !Glad it was helpful!
@NorthernRetreatАй бұрын
You don't need an inverter if you run everything off of DC. You save 30% conversion rate which means you don't need to produce as much power. Win, win, and cheaper, too.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
my lights and USB ports are on DC . I thought about a DC fridge but really didn't want to spend the money at the time and most of the people asking about mini fridges I assume were asking about the normal cheap AC style , I really like the DC fridge I put in my camper build so I might get one like that at some point
@emma-ie7fb20 күн бұрын
Have you made a medicine cabinet for a bathroom??? I want to make one but I'm questioning my abilities. And i learn so much from your videos. Sorry to comment randomly on the video I wasn't sure how to reach out.
@blackspruce186120 күн бұрын
No I haven't but I did make a kitchen cabinet maybe some of what I did in that video would be helpful but I can't guarantee it will help here's the link to that one if you want to check it out . kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqvEia1pqNCLpLs. no worries about the comment at all I'm glad you enjoyed it ! thanks !!
@BradScott-ys6otАй бұрын
We might have same macbook!😂 I have to ask u imporatant question. You said “bad” battery… does it say “Service Battery” at top right? My newer mid 2015 macbook says that. I trust your thoughts more than random people online. Is it really ok to use as long as its plugged in? The battery isnt going to bulge or fail? If I can avoid servicing battery, I will try as long as i can. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
My MacBook is a 2011 . it doesn't say anything about service battery , but it drains really fast when unplugged . When it comes to computer tech questions you would be much better off trusting the random online people to me lol .
@BradScott-ys6otАй бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 no need to reply, but some clarification. IF yours had said “Service Battery” AND youve been using it, albeit plugged in… thatd been good for me. Looks like i still need to replace. Send love to Charlie too🙂🙏🏻
@flowerstoneАй бұрын
I’ve never been comfortable having a battery system inside my house. A block building outside would make more sense to me. But that’s me. 😊
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Yeah that would be a safe way to go !
@williamirelan9332Ай бұрын
Lifepo4 batteries won't charge below freezing, and are safe for inside unlike acid batteries that emit hydrogen. If you live where it is warmer than freezing, an outdoor shed is fine. The reason for venting the battery box is to prevent the battery bms control from shutting down when it warms up. P.S. Lifepo4 batteries are not like lithium ion batteries that catch fire in people's pockets and houses . They are much safer.
@kimmer67 күн бұрын
I built 14 battery /inverter backup systems since 2017 and know my way around this equipment. LiFeP04 was the way to go. My big unit had 3600 amp hours in 12 batteries, 12 kw in inverters, 46,000 watt hours power, 2400 watts in solar panels and ran flawlessly 24/7 for more than 2 years. Then a name brand battery caught fire and did $150,000 damage to my shop and garage 3 months ago. It was caused by a faulty BMS. The total load was less than 750 watts and the batteries were at 100% with no more charge coming from solar when the battery caught fire. I absolutely will not trust a battery bank inside my shop any more. I will rebuild with a UL Listed 18Kpv unit with outside battery packs and it will be inside a vented concrete enclosure away from the house with 205 degree activated water spray nozzles inside. There were literally 12 tons of generators, diesel engines, marine engines, machine tools, vehicles, 5 motorcycles and a Ferrari 308GTS inside. I got water on the fire within 70 seconds of hearing the loud POP. I lucked out and was home when it started. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f56yqGqKjbGlb6s
@junkerzn73124 күн бұрын
One generally doesn't have to worry about LiFePO4, but that doesn't mean they can't fail or run-away. It does happen... just very rarely. And when it does happen the result is a lot of white (toxic) smoke but usually no fire. So I would recommend having a smoke alarm installed to wake you up, but that's probably all you need in terms of safety.
@kimmer63 күн бұрын
@@junkerzn7312 The battery rack caught fire from the one with the defective BMS on the bottom shelf. The plastic on the cases burned away on 10 of 12 lifep04 300AH batteries. The fire got hot enough to melt the insulation off 4/0 cables and set fire to the MPPT's, inverters, on board chargers, and instrumentation. The smoke alarm above it melted as the ceiling burned through. This was 70 seconds since hearing a loud pop. I saw the thick black smoke, called 911 and tore open my fire hose cabinet on my roof deck and charged the 1'' hose, ripped off the 18x18 skylight, and watched the thick black smoke shoot up into the air like a solid mass. There was no white smoke. I plunged the hose nozzle set to medium spray, 120psi into the smoke and instantly burned my arm. But a few seconds later the smoke cooled and began to turn gray. Yes, a BMS failure like this is probably rare. But I look at many home built power setups and see lots of plywood ready to ignite. I used cement board behind everything above the batteries and it did nothing to stop the flames. The forensic fire investigator texted me yesterday and said they are making progress but have not found the root cause of the failure in the battery.
@mai_chan2023Ай бұрын
is your mini fridge 12v or AC? i think i saw a lot of van lifers using a 12v fridge saying it saves them some power coz the fridge can run without the inverter turned on. 300ah battery looks really great.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
It's an AC fridge . I thought I would go with the AC because I figure most of the people who had asked about a mini fridge were referring to a cheap AC fridge . yes I agree a 12 volt would be better, thats what I put in my DIY camper build and I love it
@sandramiller69962 күн бұрын
I planted trees this year to put more healthy oxygen in the air.
@bobjones9727Ай бұрын
Nice build. We're those aluminum battery cables?
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! I don't remember exactly they were 4/0 might have been aluminum but I believe they're tinned copper
@offgridwithdj4877Ай бұрын
Put your mini fridge on a timer ,once it gets to the right coldness it will hold the cold and wont need to cycle as much.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
That might work really well . I was shocked how often it runs . another thing I thought was maybe to freeze a bowl of water in the freezer portion to help it stay colder longer
@offgridwithdj4877Ай бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 I've been running a renogy setup for a couple of years and have a mini fridge that is a little bigger than yours a on 2 100 amp hour renogy gel batteries and have no problems with running it on a timer .
@criticaleventАй бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 The other option is to get a 12v portable, that's what I have. I just have a VEVOR brand one that holds 10 cans an a pack of hotdogs but they make bigger. When I close up the cabin I take it home and run it in the garage with the wall adapter to keep the beer cold.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
@@criticaleventthat would work nice . Really the best thing I could do would be to get the panels a sunnier spot . If it had more time in full sun it would be no big deal
@criticaleventАй бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 Ya I've got mine on the roof and took down a few trees.
@chrisguess5Ай бұрын
The whole fam is posting this week
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Yeah I noticed that ,well almost Belle's to busy slinging coffee lol
@rileyhance31827 күн бұрын
I would just double check the settings on your charge controller. thats a lithium iron phosphate battery which has different chemistry and charge voltages when compared to lithium ion.
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
that's the setting for it
@phyllismccurdy2984Ай бұрын
Just wondering if your batteries give off any gases? I thought the batteries should be stored outside of your living space. 🙋🏻🇨🇦 Enjoyed your video.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I don't believe LIfepo4 batteries give off gas but don't quote me on that . glad you liked it thanks !
@williamirelan9332Ай бұрын
Lifepo4 batteries won't charge below freezing, and are safe for inside unlike acid batteries that emit hydrogen. If you live where it is warmer than freezing, an outdoor shed is fine. The reason for venting the battery box is to prevent the battery bms control from shutting down when it warms up. P.S. Lifepo4 batteries are not like lithium ion batteries that catch fire in people's pockets and houses . They are much safer.
@kimmer67 күн бұрын
@@williamirelan9332 My lifepo4 name brand battery, the one on the bottom shelf of 12 batteries x300 amp hours, caught fire after a BMS failed and dead shorted. The battery set fire to 8 batteries above it and did $150,000 in damage to my shop and garage. The unit ran flawlessly for 2 years straight running freezers, fridges, and sometimes a small window AC unit. It had 12kw capacity but was rarely loaded more than 2300 watts, the load was under 750 watts at the time of the fire. For 3 weeks the burned batteries gave off a sickening smell. Red tape delayed the Hazmat team from removing the unit for 7 weeks. I thank God that I was home and utilized my newly installed fire hose cabinet to put it out right before the Fire Engines arrived. I love battery backup and will rebuild, but rest assured, the battery bank unit will be in a concrete bunker away from the house with 205 degree F thermally activated sprinklers inside.
@davidweidner1675Ай бұрын
Need this kit for my box truck 🚚 conversion
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Oh yeah id would be perfect for something like that . I would love to do a box truck conversion some day , sounds like a fun project
@WonderingWombleАй бұрын
Great upgrade.. BUT.. The fuse you used will not work or blow.. The bolt that holds it goes into the busbar to the top of the fuse thus renders it not really there.. Just saying as I had made this misstake myself.. Cheers Bud
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! I believe it would . all of the bolts on the positive bus screw into inserts that are in insulated posts behind the bus bar . I would have to look again but I'm pretty sure that the inserts and bolts are isolated from the buss bar , so the only contact is the fuse
@WonderingWombleАй бұрын
Hi again.. I was watching on my phone so could not quite see close enugh to see that the bolt was on a stand off insulated bolt.. just had to say it just incase.. Safe, not sorry.. But a great job.. Have seen people just put a bolt through and use it as an inline fuse.. Cheers
@drunkenblacklocustbushcraf2857Ай бұрын
Just subscribed, have you made beer from your Black Spruce? I'd give it a try but I have no access to Black only Blue Spruce.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
hey welcome to the channel !! . I've never made beer . I wanted to get into it at one point but never did
@harryd449617 күн бұрын
Just FYI always hook up positive first on dc and disconnect negative first when disconnecting.
@blackspruce186117 күн бұрын
I hooked it up in the sequence that was in the Manuel
@paristo14 күн бұрын
That is the standard wisdom: "First you add, then you deduct". Easy thing to teach to example new car owners how to assist starting a car with empty battery using starting cables. So first you add the + and then -. And then when you want to remove cables you remove - and then +.
@proehmАй бұрын
Check the manual. Mounting the inverter vertical may void the warranty (cooling issues.)
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I hope not . I didn't read it cover to cover but I didn't find anything talking about the mounting orientation
@MontanaManOfficialАй бұрын
There is no problem with mounting the inverter vertical. They are air cooled not liquid cooled.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
that was kinda my thoughts the fans should do their job either way
@jeffbecraft7174Ай бұрын
How much is that set up..with solar 2
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
what do you mean by solar 2 ?
@kenputt1750Ай бұрын
Don't forget the grounding rod for your car or truck, you know just in case they don't already have one, da. Solar systems already have a ground, only ac seeks ground.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
@@kenputt1750 I wired it per the instructions
@LilYeshuaАй бұрын
Yiu could augment your system with a portable power supply
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
yeah thats a possibility , really I just need to get those panels more hours of sun shine
@abdullahazeem8644Ай бұрын
How many watts of your each panel are?
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
each panel is 100 watts so 400 watts total
@abdullahazeem8644Ай бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 pretty cool…i like the black color of your whole setup including battery as well it looks cool and classy at the same time ☺️👍
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I thought so too !!
@jamesdewart1772Ай бұрын
Non combustible backing is recommended for attaching components. Cement board works well. Looks good though. Not wanting to sound like an ass but you are missing fuses also.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
That would be a good idea . the fuses are all in the combiner box between the lugs and bus bar
@jamesdewart1772Ай бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 There was one between the battery and bus bar? Sorry I may have missed that.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
No there wasn't . I asked them about that and they said it doesn't need it . at first I was unsure but I guess it does make sense the buss bar can handle 500 amps, so that won't fail then all components landed on the buss bar have their own fusses so I guess it doesn't really need it .
@jamesdewart1772Ай бұрын
@@blackspruce1861 im not a pro but have been reading a lot getting ready to start. From everything I’ve seen the fuses are to protect the wiring.
@search_eternal19 күн бұрын
Try a 12 volt fridge.
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
agreed they are much better ,another thing that has been pointed out is that if I had some stuff in the fridge it would help keep it cool longer and wouldn't cycle as much
@Scott-ig1zdАй бұрын
1st another battery won't work. Your problem is charging, unless you bring a gas/propane generator. Also you can't add just one more 100w panel , you need to add 2 panels to go from 2s2p to a 3s2p configuration. Now that put you at 600 watts but your voltage 74 volt and current(same as before) are well within the limits. The charge controller with clip the excessive watts but you will get more watts earlier and later plus on cloudy days more panels more watts.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
yeah I agree no point in adding another battery when you don't have enough sun
@SuperMaiki7616 күн бұрын
Im pretty sure that each component has own earth and should be connected as done to earth outside..and NOT busbar or battery negative
@blackspruce186116 күн бұрын
That what it showed in the manuals ?
@SuperMaiki7616 күн бұрын
Well thats a first for me@blackspruce1861
@pdmark31117 күн бұрын
for 300$ you can get a 12v mini frig that would pull less power.
@blackspruce186117 күн бұрын
Yeah I installed one in my DIY camper in the second video . it does great . I really just bought this because people always asked about mini fridges I figured they were talking about the cheap ones you get from Walmart
@Kenneth-e3iАй бұрын
Sorry to tell you but the positive gets hooked up first not negative
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
I followed the directions in the book
@tm510aАй бұрын
Purchased 4 of their charge controllers all are still working no problem. But recommended that my dad buy their 3k inverter he had nothing but problems. The customer service was terrible It took months to get his refund. Never again will I recommend a rebranded inverter to family or friends
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
That's good to know . glad to hear the charge controllers are holding up well at least
@71sunsАй бұрын
What's the cost?
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
The cost is in the description along with a code for a big discount
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Mspr: 3,299.99 discount to 2,375.99 with the code BSNOVICEKIT
@johnbutler520824 күн бұрын
Can't believe nobody said anything about the huge spark when you hooked up your inverter
@SuperMaiki7616 күн бұрын
Its normal
@blackspruce18616 күн бұрын
it seems to be
@Scorpio45LibraАй бұрын
That is way too complicated for me! LOL You probably didn't even break a sweat.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
no it was pretty hot out lol
@kenfox2229 күн бұрын
Looks complicated to me like a person has to almost be an electrician
@blackspruce186129 күн бұрын
no it wasn't that bad
@16milecabins46Ай бұрын
You know the saying ‘you get what you pay for’ Well that is my experience with Renogy. Cheap junk. Now I hope your system last long and maybe we just had bad luck. Terrible customer service.
@blackspruce186129 күн бұрын
well I hope I have better luck with mine
@cleaterose5914Ай бұрын
Disappointed. No dog sitting on his butt. Boo.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
They don't care to hang around when I'm doing wiring in the cabin they're normally out chasing squirrels
@ron7107Ай бұрын
Renogy is crap , that won’t last long. Maybe Google and read up before you post this bad bad advice
@andrewhurst6360Ай бұрын
Weird. I’ve had a Renogy system going for a few years and it’s been fine. And one of their lithium batteries in our RV and it’s been fine as well.
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
so far I'm really liking it have you owned something from Renogy ?
@silentmarine4993Ай бұрын
Nice. DC fridge freezer...
@blackspruce1861Ай бұрын
Thanks !! yeah I think a dc fridge would probably do better