DISASSEMBLY AND DISCUSSION OF WHY THESE ENGINES FAIL
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@DoRC6 жыл бұрын
"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?"
@Rancher-xx5vt6 жыл бұрын
An old journeyman mechanic I used to work under would have said “oil pan failure” oil pan failed to contain all the parts!!
@andrewb97088 жыл бұрын
With age comes wisdom. I bought a 2000 7.3 at age 19 and stacked a bullydog chip with an edge evolution tuner. Six months later my tranny was gone and so was $3,200 for the repair. I'm 31 now and my (I'm the owner) work vehicle is a bulletproofed 6.0 that is bone stock except for exhaust and an intake. Eventually, we learn that pushing an engine leads to an empty bank account. If you want to go fast, an 8,000lbs truck is not the answer.
@ilovelamp618 жыл бұрын
Preach. haha
@mclarpet8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew B ...Do you want it fast or do you want it reliable.
@JohnDoeEagle18 жыл бұрын
+MoparMadness The 7.3 tranny isn't weak. I own a 2002 F-250 Super Duty. Never had a problem with it in STOCK configuration. That's funny you say "that" Mopar guy. It's more than a rumor Dodge has shit transmissions and rear ends.
@Pyro.Technic.8018 жыл бұрын
bulletproofed is stock
@moparmadness55558 жыл бұрын
John Doe 7.3 automatic transmissions do have problems all the time just as Dodge automatic transmissions do. Its not just me saying that it's very well known among diesel mechanics. Dodge's tranny problems are just more well known because it has been a problem for a lot more years
@BiffBallbag8 жыл бұрын
how the hell do you guys see in there? that's a very dark shop
@n10cities8 жыл бұрын
+BiffBallbag Maybe it's the camera. Low exposure setting. ;)
@andrewde785 жыл бұрын
“Some industrial Diesel PSYCHO tune” “Aoohhhwww put it on race tune and you can haul anything...NO YOU CANNOT!” Haha, I love it
@deankruse87518 жыл бұрын
at first i was like, oh damn thats a big lift then i realized you were taking the cab off
@danielziemba80458 жыл бұрын
+Dean Kruse Monster body lift! lol
@vdpeer7 жыл бұрын
You should post this video on all the diesel forums. The kids there will jump down your throat if you suggest that they're nuts to do these ridiculous tunes. It was a good lecture.
@smokeshow19847 жыл бұрын
you have 3 choices with cars and trucks, fast, reliable, cheap... pick two.
@YankeeSoutherner19455 жыл бұрын
Fast and cheap isn't going to happen.
@KevinBigg5 жыл бұрын
Tom94 not true. You can put nitrous on a $500 ranger and go fast... once
@ilikeboost47645 жыл бұрын
Tom94 look up sloppy mechanics 😉😉.
@6point0powerstroker794 жыл бұрын
@@YankeeSoutherner1945 fast and cheap is easy. get a honda civic body for around $500 and throw in a v8 from a totaled mustang 5.0 for about a grand there i spent $1500 and a weeks time and now have a car about 2000 lbs curb weight and has almost 400hp (just weld the mustang subframe under the front of the honda and throw the mustang rear end under it and wire the key and run shifter cable and aftermarket triple gauges ) it's not a problem for anyone who can cut and weld and knows how to hook ignition to the harness cut from the mustang and it will be faster than you'll want to ever push it due to nearly halving the weight the motor was made for
@JOSHUAK715 жыл бұрын
You have got one hell of an operation. I’m glad I came to you guys when I did. Thank You.
@johnnygermaine5918 жыл бұрын
Bill- Thank you for all the videos. I appreciate you sharing your expertise. Please keep them coming.
@skigdividerx49918 жыл бұрын
Another good video Bill. I've worked for a Cat dealer for 25 yrs and built engines for most of that time. The bottom end of the 6.7's look a lot like the old 348 and 349's. They were overhead cam V12 and V16 engines. The over the road truck drivers always had to have more power and more power! The old 3406's took a lot. These new engines are incredible and at the same time crazy! I'm not sure about going back to a water cooled aftercooler but they are smarter than I am. Thanks for all the great info!
@theq46027 жыл бұрын
Read a story once about how a guy put a 3408 in his f350 (he was wery wrich) he then proceeded to have it modded to get a lot more power than it was designed for. It sat most of the time he owned it. Every time he romped the throttle it twisted the crank.
@richardvandyke95787 жыл бұрын
3408 is a huge engine and would never fit in a F350. You are probably thinking of a 3208 which would still be a tight squeeze.
@theq46027 жыл бұрын
Whatever it was it twisted his drive shaft alot. lol
@josephdeerslayer90078 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Bill, I watch them several times and have learned more than I ever could from books and I am glad you put these out there. Nice to see a true and passionate subject matter expert. I know where to go if I am ever in need of assistance.
@MrErikw268 жыл бұрын
"but I wanted to go faster" congratulations, you win......
@yurbeeinwatched8 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill. I just want to say Happy New Year and thank you. I am a pro tech with 30 years under the belt. I am a scope and scan guy who never sees diesel stuff. When I do it is a learning curve. The information you give out is greatly appreciated. When I first saw what you did with the heads I was BLOWN away. That steel O ring should be done from the factory. You know your shit sir. Well done. Very well done.
@hgffrank6 жыл бұрын
Career Ford diesel master tech and FCA/GM tech here. While this guy makes some valid points, I respectfully dissagree with his philosophy. Not all people delete and tune trucks to have "industrial diesel phsyco tune" kinda power. Many delete and tune for reliability and service life.....tuning and deleting does not in and of itself destroy an engine. An intelligent driver who deletes and tunes a truck will in FACT lengthen the life of the engine. I personally own a 2012 F350 6.7L.....I have 11,291 engine hours including 5,906 idle hours. This totals 254,604 actual miles. My truck was in the oilfield here in the desert of NM for the first 121,000 miles of tough operating conditions, however as the mechanic who performed all the work on the truck, I knew it had been maintained well. When I purchased it I drove it about 6 months in stock form, mileage was terrible, power was just ok. Cost of DEF piss and hassle was ridiculous, and constant regenerating around town was a constant irritation. Considering that the majority of repairs I've made on th 6.7L are emissions related, its an obvious weakpoint in design. Just another case of government destroying perfectly good engines. Its obvious this guy is all for government regulation and throwing money away which is exactly what the emissions systems on these trucks accomplish. The emissions debate is never ending and I'm not here to sway anyone away from being environmentally responsible. Just think for yourself and come to your own well researched conclusion. I personally am of the opinion that modern emissions system are more detrimintal to the environment than helpful. You cant consider only the environmental impact of the truck itself, but also the impact of parts producation, logistics, maintenance, and as of the recent years the continuous impact of production of DEF and the waste stream produced just from that. California wants to ban straws but has no problam mandating plastic constainers that contain enough plastic for 5,000-10,000 straws....liberal ignorance at work. Also consider the massive loss of fuel economy due to emissions that result is massive additional crude oil usage which also has a significant environmental impact. My particular truck was lucky to get 24mpg on the highway and 14 in town. I could jump in my truck today and drive across the country and see 28-30mpg, and in town I now get 17mpg. If I baby it I can easily achieve 32mpg and thats with a 80 gallon fuel cell in the bed full. I have towed approximately 60,000 miles at or near max capacity. I have never opened the engine for any repairs. Truck still runs like new. Its my professional opinion that a deleted and tuned truck "PROPERLY" driven is far more durable and long lasting. #1 Never mash the throttle. Diesel engines have heavier parts and rate of rpm increase that is slower will lengthen engine life. Always roll into the throttle slowly, especally from flat idle. If you hear ANY type of pinging you have accelerated too quickly. If you see smoke exiting the tailpipe you have acclerated too quickly #2 Just because its tuned and deleted does NOT mean you have to be a jacksass rolling coal every chance you get or at the sight of a Prius.If your rolling coal you are damaging the engine and wasting fuel, with the added affect of looking like a jackass and damaging the reputation of diesel engines and truck owners, which certainly does not help our cuase at the government regulatory level. A 3rd point I'll make is that maintenance is HUUUUGE on these engines and vehicles. Never go the factory interval on the 6.7L and never use 15W40 oil in a 6.7. I've seen far too many turbo failures on engines running 15W40 to know there is a correlation. I personally recommend only 5w40 synthetic. Adding a bit of zinc additive is also a great idea. I do not believe younger people should have delete/tuned trucks but those who are older, wiser, and more responsible I dont see any problem. As for this youtuber's claim that dpf delete voids a ford warranty, I'll say as a Ford master diesel tech that he is absolutely full of crap. Only modifications that directly result in a failure are denied warranty coverage, and the modifications do not void the warranty as a whole with the exception of catastrophic engine damage that is due to a tune. I admit that is a reality, however that goes back to the way the truck is driven. I have performed warranty repairs on many diesel engines that have been deleted and tuned. If its not directly related its not an issue. This brings back a memory of a customer who brought in a truck with one of the supposed emissions legal tuners installed like the youtuber proclaims is gods gift to diesel trucks. I wont name the brand, its not important as they all have the same basic philosophy thats used to write the tune. This customer had a low power complaint. I looked at the truck and found the dpf was plugged nearly completely. I managed to save it, and instructed the customer to remove the tuner. The fool took the truck, and he pulled the tuner out of the truck and then came back with the truck on the hook for a no start. Diag found the dpf completely plugged, I asked the customer why he didnt remove the tune, he claimed he did, but I knew he just removed the tuner but never set the pcm back to stock. His dpf warranty claim was denied. In no way was his engine warranty effected. Of course you will run into super-techs here and there who feel like its their job to regulate and nit-pick every little thing just to try and void a warranty with the thought that it will then become a customer pay repair thus making them more money. I am a six figure tech without the desire to shaft the customer without reasonable consideration.
@dabeast123ipodhelp5 жыл бұрын
What tune do you recommend? I just recently purchased and a 2012 f250 6.7 with 139,xxx miles and ive heard stories of going tuned and deleted and I would like to get the maximum life out the truck, I Don't plan on using it for hauling or any of that? Whats the best way to keep the truck healthy and have it as long as possible?
@tylersutton76675 жыл бұрын
@@dabeast123ipodhelp use a tow or street tune you will never have tune related problems
@cccodfish5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that information. I'm getting deleted next week. I'll stick with the street option they told me I'd have. I asked who made the tunes and no answer yet. I'd like to know so I know what I'm getting into. Can I always change them from another source to the SCTX4?
@Mikeynuts215 жыл бұрын
BUMP!! Looking to buy one and basically bulletproof it and delete the necessary crap.
@UnrulyAce58 жыл бұрын
Love these videos i dont own a powerstroke but i love learning about them
@BlazerProject8 жыл бұрын
I know I want to 7.3 swap into my own F150 later on, but that amount of carnage from a tune that is way to hot without serious upgrades first is asking for trouble. The 6.7 is pretty bulletproof from people I have talked to but some I have talked to also have agreed to that as well. Love the videos and they have helped me in the planning of my engine swap as well.
@joseduranjr93408 жыл бұрын
I would've liked to have known you were available. My father is 75 and had a very well maintained 2006 F-350 dually crew cab Lariat with maybe 153,000 papered miles. We always hauled hay and cattle. I had to convince him to trade it in on a 2014 Ford Transit Connect titanium. I spent $15,000 on 3 repairs always concerning injectors, EGR cooling system and related items. It's a nice great hefty truck when running but always building a large tab to keep running. Thank you for your advice and staying true. Joseph .
@XX-mw7zm6 жыл бұрын
You have a great channel. Most mechanics would never go this into detail
@thomabb7 жыл бұрын
Your question at 10:50 - "Did the rod fail first, or did the piston fail first?". The failure of the rod is at an angle that would suggest propagation of a fatigue crack. I would bet a dollar the rod went first.
@upurnose465 жыл бұрын
I would bet the rod went first too because if the piston went first wouldnt the rod still be intact?
@johncholmes6435 жыл бұрын
Piston
@letitrest46625 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter. Neither were designed to withstand the cylinder pressure, that is being created by these ridiculous tunes, and giant power gains. In other words, 1. Which is more likely to destroy a combustion chamber, when you light it, inside the cylinder ? A. (a firecracker) or B. (a stick of dynamite)
@thomasbradley78445 жыл бұрын
thomabb i bet the rod failed too if the would use better parts all forged not cheap cast shit these motors would handle just about anything you could throw at them and i bet people wouldnt mind spending a little extra money on a motor that was built to handle 1500 hp or better but they want them to fail so. You have to buy more from them and this is with all trucks and cars
@randycordes4647 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and information I have 7.3 with 241,000 and still runs great with enough power for pulling my 32 ft. 5th.wheel that weighs 16,000 pounds loaded
@patricknavarro20138 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy who ran the H&S Mini Maxx programmer & a turbo back straight pipe exhaust, his engine is done. The truck is now at a local dump just sitting there, he isn't going to put the money into to get a rebuild. It was a fast truck but like you said in this video, if you want to go fast you gotta spend money! You're videos are great, I own a 2006 Ford F-350 6.0 Powerstroke & it's running strong. Currently at 210,xxx miles.
@danielsullivan43603 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video because I like the way Bill talks and I'm waiting for him to announce that Jay Leno is his brother...
@jlillieify8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Bill. Been watching all your videos and about to watch your "How To Buy a Used Powerstroke Diesel Truck" series for about the 4th time. Going out tomorrow to shop for a 2005-2007. Wish me luck. Hope to get up there in GA to see you some time maybe get some work done. Just wanted to say thank you for all the information I've gotten from you and putting yourself out there for us. Hope you had a great Christmas and Happy New Year. John in south FL
@JamesTyreeII8 жыл бұрын
Whoa! That transition between the camera being used near the end of the video and the one used for the train a vet promo was startling! Amazing how different a camera can make things look. Filtered, or hyper real.
@pdx6508 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Mr. Hewitt. My fiancée and I purchased an F350 to tow some trailers around. After going through your videos, website, and some other KZbin channel videos regarding the 6.7 "Scorpion" engine in our 2013 (mfr date 12/12), I've come to realize we avoided the dreaded the ceramic-coated bearings in the turbo. I hear that is a good thing since they have been known to disintegrate. There are supposed to be steel bearings in this years' (2013) turbo. We purchased the Damerow Ford-Dealership truck (located in Beaverton, Oregon) with 64k miles on the odometer. It is the platinum trim level. Unbeknownst to me, the center console between the two front seats is permanent. I think we will be getting a trim level that has seating for 6. Why did Drew Bledsoe (former nfl QB) need to get this truck with this trim? I don't know, but we have his old truck and will be trading it in for a different one.
@timothygrable20997 жыл бұрын
Bill, well said on tuning these trucks. I have a 2011 and a 2016. 16 is bone stock ( work truck ) and my 2011 is my POV. I have tried different tunes but the key is to stay close to stock numbers and leave the emissions there. DP as he said is a great company for tunes, I also recommend AM Diesel Performance and 5 Star tuning. All of them have great Emissions on tunes and will work with you to make that tune feel right to you. Shifting points, times and lengths are the most complaints on tunes. All 3 above have great starting points, but will tweak them to your liking. Don't go kill your trucks for crazy power, when these trucks are awesome enough as is. IF you do want to go crazy, you better start upgrading internals. If you don't and you break it, don't go blaming Ford, Its on you.
@keithknowles88998 жыл бұрын
What exactly does the "we build a better motor than Ford" comment really mean? (seems really odd especially how he leans into the camera). I drive a completely deleted 6.7 with H&S tuner (they are not out of business as others have commented) and it is clearly stated all over the place that towing should only be done in tow mode (NOT IN PERFORMANCE MODE). So, the guys who owns the truck in the video (did not service tranny, did not change oil at regular intervals, pulled a heavy load in performance mode in his tuned truck) and from that we are supposed to believe that all tuned and deleted motors will end up with same fate as this motor? Also, in the video they state that you cannot run DPF delete because of the timing. What does having the computer over ride seven DPF sensors, have to do with timing. There is a stock setting on the H&S tuner that does not adjust the timing for any performance gain, it simply tells the computer not to throw error codes for all the disconnected sensors from the deleted EGR and DPF. I understand that they have improved the cooling system so that the super heated exhaust in the EGR is cooled more sufficiently now as it is brought back into the motor, BUT why do you want "heated used air" going into the engine. Cool, clean, fresh air makes any engine run more efficiently. Has anyone ever cut a DPF apart? HOLY BACK PRESSURE BATMAN, cut mine up and sent it to some guy on internet who harvest the platinum out of them and he paid me $275 for it and paid the shipping. You need the damn turbo just to force the exhaust thru all the crap that is packed into the beast. All motors BUT especially diesels want to breathe to run more efficiently. I am not claiming to be any type of expert and I am open to correction if any of comments here are incorrect, just simple observations from a simple guy. Who is damn happy and proud of his 6.7 (please pardon all spelling and grammatical errors as I said before just a simple guy here)
@Victorbanda12348 жыл бұрын
+keith knowles My dad has a 6.4 that he has had deleted for the last 12,000 or so miles and the truck has been great way better with out the bs restriction it has before deletes, Its up to the owner to understand what power can do to ones truck, even if you run in performance but drive conservatively i would bet you will be ok, and towing is obviously for towing, thats what it was designed for any owner should know that, maintenance is also key in owning a heavy duty truck, Completely agree with what you are saying on everything.....
@KBS1176 жыл бұрын
I agree.. That truck had static lock due to a bad injector... This guy is selling...what he is selling, is his tuner... He thinks he is slick and we will fall for, some idiot pulled in performance mode...I have an 03 6.0 crew cab dually, with 600k on it.. Put the edge with juice on it at 25k miles.. I have had it in level 5 (kill mode) since install.. It is my work truck.. I installed the egr butt plug, when I installed the tuner.. No egr delete, nothing else has been done.. It will smoke all 4 rear tires like a dragster.. This guy needs to blow smoke up some one else's ass..
@Hudbudd6 жыл бұрын
KBS117 He was talking about 6.7s. 6.0s are not even in the conversation, they can be built to 7.3 quality through him.
@wagonerjared5 жыл бұрын
Point well made. I run H&S tuner on my deleted '11 6.7 PSD on street mode and it runs great. Tow mode when I tow. I don't use the performance tune as I am 38 and don't need that shit. I change oil at 4k and run a quart of Lucas synthetic and oil analysis through Blackstone every service.
@kenl49298 жыл бұрын
100% agree, tuning. Not saying too much tuning, but Bad trans tuning. In my opinion, the root cause is from Lugging w/too much converter lock up. That giant tune feeding those conditions....Massive amount of stress & heat generation! Then any microscopic impurity in that piston casting will show its face real quick. I think you're right on your assumption of piston failing first! You're the man! Your videos rock! (Diesel mechanic 20yrs running)
@jwillrett91828 жыл бұрын
A mini maxx is one of the best options for tuning.. "a mini maxx has too much timing"? There are many different options for custom tunes through a mini maxx that are very safe to run with out a doubt. There are a one or two companies that really try and push an unsafe amount of power but that is not due to the H&S unit itself, that is due to that individuals tune files. Tuning these engines with out deleting the dpf is useless as well. The amount of emissions would increase with the dpf tuning on, and there for the dpf/scr would work harder to "clean up" the emissions and the dpf filter would clog/fill up quicker. With the correct custom tuning, a 6.7 with a stock bottom end will hold up to 650 generally. All about bringing the power on smoothly.
@samsonwrecking11338 жыл бұрын
Love my mini max . Set it to default timing and tow and don't touch it . My 2010 cummins has never ran better
@bomason70747 жыл бұрын
I guess bill had a change of heart. Back in the 6.4 days he said delete it . Now he says DO NOT DELETE IT
@LoosedSubset7 жыл бұрын
Bo Mason I think he is for deleting, but against all the ridiculous tunes required to delete it.
@DGAF_AK877 жыл бұрын
You don't need to delete on a 6.7 the emissions shit is actually decent enough to run. You have to delete a 6.4 if you want it to remotely last
@badlandskid8 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking, " This suspension has an enormous amount of travel.." Then I realized what was going on. Man, I need a coffee. lol
@Foosetruck5 жыл бұрын
I' am from Canada and don't know much about Powerstroke Help, or the gentleman in these video's. What I do know from my mechanical knowledge is I agree with everything he says and is the bible on these engines, I grateful for these video's.
@QueezyWTX7 жыл бұрын
this guy is like my mentor lol
@METROTMEN5 жыл бұрын
How do you tell if a 6.7 powerstroke has been tuned in its life with no visible tuner?
@V10PDTDI8 жыл бұрын
Hi bill what about the 2 rear cylinder including the valves and turbocharger issues you were talking about with the 6.7 litre with stock emissions when the truck goes in to regen it overheats the rear cylinder do you have any cure for that even with all emission equipement left on what was the total bill for a replacement engine like that on that truck. ?
@mattlf91205 жыл бұрын
I am very disappointed with Ford for putting such tiny spindly rods in the 6.7.
@roadkill53338 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos! I've been telling any power stroke owners I see, about your website and KZbin channel. I'm not a ford guy, nor a diesel fan, but I find these videos very informative and entertaining. I have one request. When you start filming the carnage, can you slow down a little bit? Sometimes, you pan through the grenade aftermath, and I can't even determine what part is what. Just a pile of kibbles and bits. Not asking for an hour movie, just slow the pan down a touch! Makes a more dramatic explanation of what can happen to an improperly modded power plant. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with us, about these problems.
@bustsrods5 жыл бұрын
Honest mechanic! At its best! Ford man, for Ford men!!!
@thegoat17764 жыл бұрын
I've just bought a new well new to me 250/4x4 6.7 with 80k on it and hope it lasts a long while, what kind of things should I do to ensure that..... I'm new to this diesel stuff all together first one I've ever had I really enjoy watching your videos and thanks for the info
@digitalrailroader8 жыл бұрын
Bill, you need to have a MASSIVE sign in your shop showing the price of a 6.7L Crate engine from Ford ($13,000 and up) and a message that reads if you run an off road tune and any emissions are deleted, this is what to be expected, and tell them that Ford WILL VOID THEIR WARRANTY if its found out that the truck has been tuned and Emissions parts Deleted.
@suunt128 жыл бұрын
Big tires and a big tune...what could possibly go wrong??!! My 2010 6.4 is running like a champ so far. I'll bring it to you when it blows up. :-()
@jforu338 жыл бұрын
Hello. Great information. I have one concern. I live in northern Canada. Where the temps in winter can regularly reach below -35 C. These urea systems freeze and fail all the time. Rendering my $67,000.00 pickup that I use everyday for work useless and me freezing to death. Also the constant idiling plugs the egr cooler. Is there any solution to keeping this urea from freezing or just getting rid of the urea system alone?
@DrGand8 жыл бұрын
Bought my '03 F350 7.3 used at 155k miles about 6 months ago. Had a TS-6 position chip in it. First thing I did was yank that tuner out. I really want to run this truck another 15 years/150k miles, at least. Kind of sad to see what's becoming of these newer 6.4/6.7 trucks. Emissions is killing them, and the tuning to run em without emissions equipment is killing them too! Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@makethekermitment65006 жыл бұрын
I love a good complete engine failure. Driving down the road, whole thing shuts down, and it's ruined. Puts a smile on my face.
@danielbargas33777 жыл бұрын
I've read that the connecting rods on the 6.7 is the weak point of the internals, that and the fuel system has its own issues and the turbo bearings and exhaust turbine explode
@yourfavoritelawnguy27228 жыл бұрын
heyyy ive got the same rims and tires on my 03 gmc 1500 :D, i didnt know where else to share this information
@RockDude843 жыл бұрын
Mikey is your most valuable asset
@abelwrate43307 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2008 F450, before i watched his video's, but i did notice something was removed off the truck. i asked the dealership and they said they would look for me. EGR was removed, most likely failed and the person didn't want to replace it. Took it to Ford and they said it was well taken care of and to put it back to OEM would be around $3,500.
@BaseLineGarage7 жыл бұрын
Abel Wrate why would you want it back on lol
@chuckconet52958 жыл бұрын
Bill Im really confused...In your other video (Which Powerstroke is the best?) You CLEARLY stated (almost word for word)that the 6.7 is a great engine, but "the DPF and emissions stuff will be the death of these engines"....but now your saying DONT delete?....You are sending mixed messages.....Would you expect to see catastrophic failure from a deleted 6.7 that runs a stock tune or a fuel saver tune?....I was always under the impression that deleting these engines would extend the life of them.......Am I missing something?....Thanks....Chuck
@jamesmartin96688 жыл бұрын
I agree. which is the recommended path?
@JamesSmith-ho7kg8 жыл бұрын
I think what he's saying is by itself the 6.7 is a killer motor but because of the CAFE standards ford had to add the DPF to meet the emissions and fuel economy standards. If an owner deletes the DPF some other engine tuning is needed so the motor runs correctly. Most plug in tuners adjust the timing needed when the DPF is deleted. Again I'm no mechanic but that's what I gather from the conflicting statements.
@chuckconet52958 жыл бұрын
James Smith Im with you...Id just feel better if he would say it...(he dont have to condone or endorse it, because we know it is illegal)...just clarify it
@ericferguson41148 жыл бұрын
Deleting the dpf is the way to go period. If you drive it with some decency you won't be blowing it apart, even if you're running the hot tune. You'll be safe running the stock power tune or a tow tune. It's all in the operator. Lots of guys run the hot tunes without problems.
@greg6577 жыл бұрын
chuck conet deleting and tuning are two different things.
@amtpdb18 жыл бұрын
What kind of money are you looking at from the time you got it to the time you gave it back? Just curious. Thanks
@andy84wilson8 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great video Bill! I really enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Keep up the great work!
@Marine195719668 жыл бұрын
Hey, bud. There is no "explosion" in the cylinder during normal firing - the fuel-air mixture only "burns" with a flame-front velocity just below the speed of sound. Should the mixture be too lean and the flame front exceeds the speed of sound, then you have detonation (explosion) in abnormal firing which melts the piston. (Former UAW Navistar skilled-labor Inspector on diesel engines)
@HawkRockS19968 жыл бұрын
thanks again for another informative video sir. I have as I'm sure others have learned a tremendous amount of truck info that's helped us to better maintain our rigs and what parts etc to use.
@fatguy455 жыл бұрын
Thank God Texas doesn't have emissions laws is all I can say!
@Garth20114 жыл бұрын
They do, federal laws apply. Maybe they do not enforce them?
@impleasen8 жыл бұрын
This guy has taught me a lot, and I don't even own a diesel!
@rightcoast70495 жыл бұрын
"I wish that hadn't happened" lol classic Bill
@tdgreenbay7 жыл бұрын
do you guys have knowledge about the Jeep VM Motori 2.8L. I had a Failure of one at 110,000 miles. no tuning no mods I dont know if the counterbalance Shaft failed
@oman82nd8 жыл бұрын
What about running the deletes with a mini maxx tuner still on the stock level tune for those just wanting better economy and not have to add urea?
@gwhunter078 жыл бұрын
Im sure it will be fine as long they keep it around the stock level tune. This guy was probably on performance tune with a trailer in tow. Big no no. The performance tune increases the timing and pressure inside the cylinder. Pair that with a heavy load and increased pressure on the engine and it goes boom.
@codywit84914 жыл бұрын
I died when he brought up racing a horse 😂
@danabelcher55958 жыл бұрын
Sad to see the newer diesels not holding up. still running my old 96 7.3l with mild upgrades. it can still raise cane with the new trucks. we even dodges. it may be a log wagon dinosaur, but it gets the job done without the drama of the 6.0, 6.4, or the 6.7.
@Ruger41mag8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down for us dummies - poor maintenance, poor operator technique, poor tuning. I guess if I take care of my 6.7, operate it conservatively and within the specified Ford operating parameters, and don't tune it, it should last a loooooooong time.
@yamaharidr4508 жыл бұрын
+BangFlop No it wont. Keep it factory and expect to put a motor in it at 200000 and putting a new exhaust on it at 100K when it gets clogged and cant flow.
@Martin-tb4oo7 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos!!! I am addicted to all of them. I don't own a power stroke, but I am a huge fan of them. It is kinda disheartening to watch these videos and see that even in stock for you are driving a ticking time bomb.... I want to buy a new f450. What am I supposed to do pay 75k and stick another 12k into it for piece of mind? What's the point of buying it then.... Why has Ford for sake it's most loyal customers..... 😔
@xX_Kryptis_Xx8 жыл бұрын
I don't even own a truck but I like this guy! he knows what he's doing
@paulhyland58685 жыл бұрын
I'm glade we dont have emissions in TX.
@Willyd27584 жыл бұрын
Glade like the air freshener?
@SubieRow4 жыл бұрын
Texas has emissions. As well as yearly safety inspections. That's why I won't move there. Going the way of commiefornia
@rickreid818 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great info. I don't own a diesel but I always learn something listing to you. Thank u for the performance information!
@whilomforge34028 жыл бұрын
I bought an '11 back in 2012. It had 18k on it, Florida truck. Loved it from the beginning, then at 20k the egr went along with basically the entire cooling system. Tons of front-end work and 5k miles later, the turbo crapped out. Went through two new turbos and just about every sensor under the hood. Luckily, Ford was more than helpful, however, if I ever buy another powerstroke I'll damn sure bring it to Bill.
@jeffreyguild1032 Жыл бұрын
I change all the oils when the truck tell me too .Its a 2016 F 350,Next oil change I want to go Amsoil full synthetic it has 30,000 miles but I need to know can you go without changing the oil for 25,000 miles with synthetic oils
@kevinoneill41 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video. But lets talk tuning. If you want a race truck build a race truck. These are not race trucks. I put my tune in to delete a failed science prodject in the early emission control of my 6.4. PS my 6.4 is still running. I put a Mini Maxx in i know you'll say I'm crazy. I set it at tow, lowerd the low boost fuel to the #2 setting and unpluged the tuner. I had to replace the new stock cold air intake to a this is just my desision S&B filter system. Because when I pulled out to pass someone the replace air filter light would come on. Now I know these engines need to breathe. But having a stock air box with this much restriction is just not right. I get no black smoke on lift off in stop and go traffic. When im pulling my 30ft trailer or the work trailer or if I'm just going back and forth this setting has not caused me any troubles and is plenty quick. Now this is Aug 2023. And another 100K down the Rd. PS i bought this truck for body stile she is a beauty its what a truck should look like. Now if some one could fix the blend door isue I would be very happy
@mckinzi18 жыл бұрын
looks like about 6 lawnmower motors someone ran E85 in whoooopeeee 2 stroke Dura Force Lawn Boy was run with 50:1 rather than 32:1 mix and the rod twisted kinda like the one you showed there. bout this close to coming apart...rtfm folks
@wisetow10 Жыл бұрын
If H & S is no good then who is the best aftermarket tuner to use for those of us that don’t have a tuner in driving distance?
@matthewnelson35788 жыл бұрын
But you kind of say it's okay to delete the DPF and EGR on the 6.4 truck, which I did on your recommendation. I run a Spartan tuner with the DPF/EGR off, stock tune. How is it different for a 6.7 vs a 6.4?
@svt898 жыл бұрын
Man thank God for EFI live tuning for the Duramax and Cummins ! And those are some tiny ass rods for a diesel lol .
@Mikefngarage5 жыл бұрын
damn I cant hit the like button twice
@chevyblock5504 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hewitt, not to question your experience, but wouldn't a failure like this with the piston, rod, camshaft, lifters, etc. be from high RPM instead of the tuner? I would be led to believe a tuner that has a lot of timing would cause high EGT'S which would lead to a valve train failure from premature wear, not in the bottom of the motor.
@jeffreyguild1032 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos I have a 6.7,I use it to haul my 27ft RV
@jasonman15158 жыл бұрын
powerstrokehelp, once i get my diesel. I have couple more years to save up, not to mention love the new style coming out, I'm going to send it to you and want you to pretty much bulletproof the shit out of the engine. Make it reliable unlike some of the videos i have been seeing on youtube.
@mauipalmandtreecare8 жыл бұрын
we pull a 7,500lb wood chipper with our 6.0 F350 no tuning just EGR delete with onyx head gaskets and ARP studs. she gets regular maintenance and oil changes. good good truck!
@deanmeyer18158 жыл бұрын
Horsepower, horsepower, horsepower, BOOM!
@n10cities8 жыл бұрын
+Dean Meyer Kibbles & Bits.......great for your kitty cat, but not a Powerstroke Diesel....
@Mikefngarage5 жыл бұрын
your mean ford ford ford boom...
@DavidGonzalez-mu1yg8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tons of great info. That's pretty crazy that Georgia police will impound your truck!
@vegasfordguy8 жыл бұрын
Great info as always! Enjoy the straight up no nonsense talk.
@kandiland65717 жыл бұрын
I have a question for all the geniuses on this awesome Channel.I have a 2015 f550 6.7 4x4 with no more than 5000 pounds of tools and stock, I am a mobile truck mechanic and I do a lot of Pull starts. My question is am I abusing my truck by doing this? If possible I unhook the trailer sometimes this is not possible due to not able to release fifth wheel pin, I am able to do this with pretty much no effort unless on a upward grade then just a little more effort to get moving never spinning the tires.I usually only pull the truck 5 to 10 feet to start it. The truck can weigh up to 80,000 pounds.It pays $350 each time hard to say no
@AdamH108TA8 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Fascinating once again. I don't even own a PSD truck but one day I hope to. (they are very expensive here in the U.K) Keep up the good work Bill. From Adam in Scotland, U.K.
@wuzgoanon93733 жыл бұрын
They are very expensive here, too.
@brian62657 жыл бұрын
I personally LOVE the old 12v Cummins as well as the gen 3's 24v pre emissions. but I'm wondering. labor and parts. what does it cost to bullet proof a 6.0 so it'll last forever.
@abelwrate43307 жыл бұрын
brian6265 $7,900 Bullet Proof. He also sells Bullet Proof Transmissions from his contact.
@volvo098 жыл бұрын
another great videoHere's a thought I've had as I've run into more and more quick diesles out on the road... With all the luxury and features these diesel trucks offer nowadays do you see your shop getting more "inexperienced" diesel owners coming in who have never owned a diesel before and break them trying to run them like a gasoline / spark engine? like revving the crap out of them or just slapping a tune on and not worrying about how hard you run it because "you don't have to worry about detonation" for instance? I see a lot of nice fast trucks out on the road and I can only imagine quite a few of those have been playing with fire by running a race tune on a stock engine.
@livalittle1008 жыл бұрын
See the thing is having a fast truck is to cool. It is such a special feeling when the turbo or turbos light, if it hooks it slams your neck back into the seat, if it doesn't hook it turns the rear tires into a smoke show. Either way it is so much freaking fun! Thats why people do it.
@walkerforsyth62217 жыл бұрын
livalittle100 These so called people have obviously never gone for a ride in a fast car
@everettclunie35256 жыл бұрын
And these are the results! Gotta pay to play!
@fordrac1ng816 жыл бұрын
I do it on a $5000 motorcycle. My trucks are work vehicles. My bike will beat 99.99999% of trucks at 1/100th the cost per mile.
@nebeerz8 жыл бұрын
Loose nut behind the wheel. Love it!
@livalittle1008 жыл бұрын
So when the timing is advanced too much it destroys the bottom end of the engine? but I am assuming that there is an amount of timing advance that will not hurt the motor but still make more power?
@canton71807 жыл бұрын
If stock internals can't with stand hot tuning and that is what the owner wants, aren't there after market internals available that are engineered for it, I mean if you take a n/a motor and boost it you 'll usually replace the internals with forged parts, at least that is what I do anyway.
@brucewillson38548 жыл бұрын
not a powerstroke specialist but thats gotta be atleast 15 grand lol. my cummins has been pinging lately but ive put a couple thousand miles on it since the sound started and im not worried. plus if it blows ill put a new one in for 5gs or less
@iancampbell5824 жыл бұрын
You got a nice shop space fella.
@volvo096 жыл бұрын
Love the lessons here. Luckily I learned with cheap cars when I was young.... can't imagine spending 40k on a truck and grenading the engine. I supercharged my car 4 years and 80k miles ago - 16 year old me would have destroyed it already showing off.
@scottclemens70255 жыл бұрын
Why are the bolts for the vacuum pump 89 in/lbs? I'm sure many PS owners are asking that. Shoulda been a recall.
@weldreth248 жыл бұрын
what about a dpf deleted tune but on a towing tune not a crazy 250hp tune ?
@patw52pb18 жыл бұрын
Bill, are new bare block castings available for the 6.7? Every failed 6.7 I have encountered so far was user and or tuner related. We have a 2012 6.7 with over 200K on the clock and outside of factory recalls and regular maintenance have experienced zero issues. Thank you for all that you do.
@adrianspeeder8 жыл бұрын
Kibbles and bits! So it's a good idea to keep the DPF on a 6.7L? I ditched the DPF on a 6.4L to keep that heat from killing the top end. Only daily drive the 150hp to keep the clutch happy.
@reedwunderlich83708 жыл бұрын
With the separate cooling system on these trucks for the emissions does this take the heat out of the engine more effectively than one huge radiator like on a 6.4 ? An Egr still puts hot exhaust gases back into the engine which I cant see being good for it and can only be removed with tuning? Are you saying 6.7 owners should leave the trucks with emissions still in place because there is not safe tuning out there for these trucks to be deleted with yet? or the cooling system is substantial to dispersing the heat out of the engine with out damaging anything over time? Or leave these trucks stock due to the legal aspect of it? Its illegal to delete a 6.0 or a 6.4 put we know the consequences of not. Thanks for the video!
@mitchsnyder75146 жыл бұрын
powerstrokehelp Just curious what does a motor cost on a 6.7L like the one here in the video. I have heard they are insanely expensive but anything fomoco is insane. What would a part build motor run?
@dickgoesinya31836 жыл бұрын
you say the connecting rod pulls down on the piston.....id think out of the two strokes the power stroke surely doesn't and the intake stroke is minimal due to boost. id lean more towards high rpms and over fueling with timing too advanced....a good reason to squirt water!
@GeorgeSemel8 жыл бұрын
I can just image what the bill came to, my guess it was north of 15 K! For that kind of money I could spend December thru April on the South Island of New Zealand Fly fishing for trout till I just drop and still have plenty of cash left over to hit SW Montana from May to Oct! It seems to me that if you want to go fast buy a Corvette! A Truck like this, you buy for taking yourself out to the sticks on your hunting and fishing trips! But its his money and you are after all in the business of fixing this sort of stuff! To each his own I guess! I would love to have one with all the things that you do done- with a Camper on it and just see how many of the Nations trout streams I could fish in the next decade! Now all I need is a good boat load of money to make it happen! Oh and Happy New Year!
@Eric_Broome8 жыл бұрын
I would be careful claiming that dp tuning won't void your warranty. Maybe your warranty won't be voided but the dealer will not honor a warranty with any aftermarket tune.