PP800 and a PCP CP2 !!

[@waynejones3413]

If the PCP version of the cp2 does hit the market I'm sure they will do well providing the price is right.

[@markhinde6187]

Done it, now have a PP800 with long barrel and in my CP2 stock, I had to swop over the hammer spring end cap though, I am very pleased with the results in .177. running around 9ftlb and getting 100 shots, great informative video, thanks

[@ambientfish1369]

Update to my previous post, I went ahead and put the PP800 action in my CP2 stock, works well, i've no real interest in pistols so I picked up a 2nd CP pistol grip and shoulder stock with a nice little Konus Sightpro Red Dot, so I ended up with a light weight PCP rifle and a CO2 carbine plinker, win win.

[@christosmavrommatis912]

I've got the PP800 .22 and had it regulated with an altaros reg. It gave me 50 shots at 5.7 ft-lbr and 25 shots at 7.9 ft-lbr. (where I like it the most). This gun can be stripped in 5 minutes and is fun to set it up. I have the reg at 80 bar and just play around with different springs (still easy to change reg settings because the tube is so short that can change bars just with an electricians screwdriver, just empty it and unscrew the front cover). One thing to note: When regulated can be filled over 200 bars ( I pump it with 25 pumps up to 230 bar, no problem). I also plan to purchase the cp2 in .17 for the same reasons you mentioned. Excellent stock, interchangeability, additional spares just for the 150 Eur that the gun costs in my country, the additional barrels, silencer, calibre and CO2 option. The PP800 can be found in my country also at .25 and I've seen a guy set it up and shooting it at over 19ft-lbr (we have no power limitations in GR). This is a real capable project back pack airgun that I have no problem carry it in my short country site trips, fill it with a pump, accurately shoot it as a pistol up to 50 yrds.

[@MrZizilis]

Καλησπέρα Χρήστο, κολλημένος με το μικρόβιο κ εγώ κ χαίρομαι όταν βλέπω πατριώτες να ασχολούνται! :) Έχω ήδη ένα marauder pistol (prod) που μετά από αρκετό πείραγμα (porting, ελατήριο, μπουκάλα airsoft κλπ) βγάζει μ.ο. 36 fpe για 24 βολές με e.s. γύρω στο 4%, αλλά με όλες τις μετατροπές έχει γίνει πλέον "γκουμούτσα" για το σακίδιο... Σκέφτομαι λοιπόν την αγορά του PP800 για κάτι πιο μαζεμένο και ευέλικτο, μαλλον σε .22 κ εγώ και αναζητώ πληροφορίες...(σκεφτόμουν να πήγαινα σε .25 αλλά με μια πρώτη αναζήτηση δεν το βρίσκω διαθέσιμο)....Anyway, έχεις μήπως κρατήσει κάποιο εργοστασιακό shot string (πριν το πειράξεις) που θα μπορούσες να ποστάρεις ώστε να πάρω μια ιδέα ?

[@christosmavrommatis912]

@@MrZizilis Δεν έχω data, αλλά πρόσεξε με το PP800: Αν το αγοράσεις, η άποψη μου είναι να εγκαταστήσεις regulator, ειδάλλως μη το πάρεις! Ο λόγος είναι ότι ο θάλαμος είναι μικρός και έχει πολύ δυνατο ελατήριο (το όπλο αυτό αποδίδει καλά στις 5-6ft-lbr, μπορείς να βγάλεις και 50 βολές με reg, στα 7-8 ft-lbr βγάζει 25), θα πρέπει να κόψεις το ελατηριο σφυρας, ειδάλλως θα κάνεις βολές και θα πέφτει η πίεση, δε θα πετυχαίνεις τίποτα. Το όπλο δίνει γκάζι στα 110-150 bar επειδή έχει πολύ δυνατό ελατήριο βαλβίδας. Επίσης έχει κοντό πυρο βαλβίδας, άρα αν θέλεις να δώσεις δύναμη με βαρύτερη σφύρα η δυνατότερο ελατήριο δεν θα κάνεις τίποτα. Αν το πάρεις, πάρε regulator altaros και θα μπορείς να αλλαζεις τη δύναμη ενώ είναι μέσα στο σωληνα, εάν και εφόσον θέλεις να ασχοληθείς. Σε αντίθετη περίπτωση, καλύτερα να πάρεις το CP2, 5.5 ( το οποίο είναι κελεπουρι στα 150€), και αγοράζεις μετά ανταπτορα από τη Gmac, για pcp, και τροφοδοσία από φιαλη paintball - πρόσεξε να αγοράσεις και το περολαμβανομενο σιγαστήρα, μη σε κοροϊδέψουν.... Αν θέλεις, μπορούμε να τα πούμε τηλεφωνικά (οι λεπτομέρειες είναι πολλές, δεν μπορώ να τις γράψω όλες). Αν είσαι Αθήνα, μπορείς να με συναντήσεις στο Σχιστό και να ρίξεις με το δικό μου (πάω Κυριακές). Τέλος, αν έχεις υπομονή, ρίξε μια ματιά στο Artemis PP750, παράγγειλε το και δώσε μας τη δική σου εμπειρία καθώς είναι πολύ καινούργιο. Τώρα, όσον αφορά το ερώτημα σου για 6.35..... γιατι, τι να το κάνεις??? Το όπλο που ήδη έχεις είναι καλό και δυνατό. Συμφωνώ ότι ένα πιστόλι Άρτεμις χωραει στο σακίδιο, αλλά πρέπει να ξέρεις τι θέλεις να κάνεις με αυτό..., στα 25-30 m κάνεις άνετη δουλίτσα με πετούμενα, ανοιχτά σκοπευτικά η red dot

[@MrZizilis]

@@christosmavrommatis912 σ ευχαριστώ πολύ για την άμεση απάντηση! Με βάση όσα λες, τότε μάλλον το PP 800 δεν θα με ικανοποιήσει....Γλυκοκοίταζα πολύ το πανέμορφο και δοκιμασμένο PP 700 αλλά χρειάζομαι οπωσδήποτε όπλο με γεμιστήρα ώστε να χω όσον το δυνατόν γρηγορότερα έτοιμη τη δεύτερη τρίτη κλπ βολή, εξού κ το ψάξιμο για το PP 800 (θέλω οπωσδήποτε μικρό και πιο μαζεμένο πιστόλι απ το prod μου...το ιδανικότερο θα ήταν κάτι σαν το Ataman ap16 standart, το οποίο όμως είναι πανάκριβο για το budget μου. Ο στόχος μου είναι να έχω τουλάχιστον 12 ft-lb για ένα εύρος τουλάχιστον 14 βολών (2 γεμιστήρες), οπότε σκόπευα να κάνω το κλασικό αρχικό tuning που έκανα και στο marauder prod, και σε ένα bt65 που χα πειράξει (δηλαδή άνοιγμα transfer port και οπής κάνης, σκληρότερο ελατήριο σφύρας, ίσως μαλακότερο ελατήριο βαλβίδας κλπ, και φυσικά βαριά pellets σαν τα pillerdriver ώστε να πιάσω την ενέργεια που χρειάζομαι)...φανταζόμουν ότι με τα παραπάνω θα το είχα το αποτέλεσμα αλλά με προβλημάτισες με όσα μου λες.... Απ' ότι καταλαβαίνω, το όπλο δίνει ένα shot string "καμπάνα" όπως τα περισσότερα pcp....δηλαδή με πλήρωση στα 250 bar ξεκινάει χαμηλά (λόγω υψηής πίεσης αλλά και σκληρού ελατηρίου βαλβίδας), μετά ανεβαίνει συνεχώς έως τα 150 bar περίπου όπου κάνει το pick του, και μετά παίρνει την κατηφόρα....σ αυτή την περίπτωση, το κλασικό tuning που ανέφερα δεν θα μου δινε το επιθυμητό αποτέλεσμα σε ενέργεια, με ένα λογικό πάντα spread? ΥΓ, θα χαρω να τα πούμε κ τηλεφωνικά εφόσον έχεις τη διάθεση γιατί όντως πρέπει να γράψουμε κατεβατά εδώ κ δεν βολεύει. Πώς/πότε μπορώ να σε καλέσω?

[@christosmavrommatis912]

@@MrZizilis Από ότι καταλαβαίνω έχεις όρεξη και γνωσεις για tunning, το pp800 μπορεί τελικά να στα δώσει αλλά αξίζει τον κόπο? Είδα ένα 6.35 που έβγαζε >24 ft-lbr , αλλά εγώ δεν καταλαβαινω γιατί να το θέλεις... είναι πιστόλι! Εγώ μέχρι τα 10μ ρίχνω με Steyr LP10, στα 20-30 με το pp800 και πιο μακρυά με τουφεκι. Με τα 7-8 ft-lbr κατεβάζεις άνετα περιστέρια στα 25-30μ με 5.5(υποθέτω ότι για κάτι τέτοιο το θέλεις), για μεγαλύτερες αποστάσεις θέλεις καραμπινακι, και εσύ ήδη έχεις καλό εργαλείο. Και για αυτό σου προτείνω το CP2 (μπορείς να έχεις 4 διαμορφωσεις και να τις κάνεις μετά και 8, σε σακίδιο πλατης). Αν θέλεις οπωσδήποτε δύναμη & μικρό μέγεθος (backpack friendly), γεμιστήρα, τότε μήπως πρέπει να δεις κανένα Kraal, η Hatsan (εγώ πάντως αποφεύγω τα Τουρκικά λόγω κακής εμπειρίας). Δες πάλι το PP750, είναι μίξη του pp700 και του pp800, το έχω δει σε Ισπανικό και αγγλικό e-shop, στο Krale Nl είχε τη καλυτερη τιμή αλλά ξεπουλησε. Τα περισσότερα από τα tunning τα έχω δοκιμάσει (transfer port, new hammer, spring, reg, μου έμεινε μόνο το valve pin & valve spring για πειραματισμο-πάρε στο 6945 448281 αν έχεις απορίες, συνήθως μέχρι τις21:00

[@SoberRider78]

So if you had it set at the 7.9 ft/lb that suits you and then put it in the CP2 stock with the longer barrel how many ft/lb would it then make ? *QUAD*

[@jonktankwatch]

I too plan to mate my CP2 with my PP800, but family fun/life just takes over. One day my little buddies, one day... Great work Andy. You are a class leader in this, along with all your 101 shootists.

[@easylikesundaymorning7340]

In a 12ftlb format that would be a perfect lightweight tool. I would definitely be purchasing one for my collection.

[@johnibbertson2960]

yes and so would i

[@leefox2023]

Learned a hell of a lot from this programme, spot on,,

[@stemc83]

Got mine today. Absolutely love it! I've got a PCP rifle and co2 pistol now!

[@brianamuro3023]

Hi Andy, I really appreciate your videos.

[@jasongeorge3115]

These video's are fantastic, I was wanting to get back into shooting but struggling to choose on a direction to start out in, you really helped me find the right gun for my application. You also pointed me towards Drapers who I have lived 25mins from for 32 years but never knew about. Fantastic shop with some really friendly, helpful staff.

[@Dknight5153]

Where do get the scope coz it's polite ask all the best Dave, the victory pistal/rifle thnks

[@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270]

I am going to sue you! For damages! To my wallet anyway. Have just bought one and used it to convert my cp2 to pcp. Wow! Light and consistent. Has turned it into a really good plinker. Thanks for the review😊

[@derek5490]

Anyway to crank up the power to nearer 12 ft/lb ? *Derek*

[@torquilh]

They sell these in Spain with a 17 Joules setting, which confirms what you said about the pistol being set up easily for a higher power setting.

[@lamarr1986]

if i wanted to run this cp2 version of the pp800 at 12ft/lb (legal limit in the UK) would it just be a matter of changing the hammer spring?

[@brorjordas1979]

Excellent video! Did so enjoy to see the interchangeability segment. Always into tuning airguns to more personal items. Personally not into match grade airguns but rather a replica enthusiast - but this was pretty neat.😊👍

[@Providafuturi92]

As always very interesting presentation, very informative and very entertaining. It is probably one of my favorite channels on you tube and can't wait for another video. But watching these makes me sad cause you are limited to 12 foot pounds. Having no limits offers so much more fun. Keep up the great work. All the best from Serbian fan

[@gusdongo]

Thank you very much for your teachings, I would greatly appreciate a disassembly and cleaning of the snowpeak pp800 pcp gun or its equivalent

[@rickyhounsome2628]

Just watched this for the first time. They now have the option to have your CP2 in pcp or Co2.

[@ufotube4488]

Love these videos, a really good presenter too.

[@finmithmor]

Absolutely perfect!!

[@gvibes69]

In europe that gun as 14-18 joules !

[@defender1006]

Modular design has many advantages as well as many detractors too!

[@louigi600-si7yb]

I have a CP2 and was already thinking of ways to mod it non intrusively for dual pcp/co2 operation, but maybe the best, most reliable and cheap way to do this id by also having a PP800. By the time I get all the things I need to pull it off I would be spending north of 100 Euro plus a hydraulic pump to actually test the safety before pressurizing the aftermarket components. Overall it is getting close to the price of a PP800 ... it might make better sense to have 2 guns, 4 magazines, 3 barrel, 2 silencers and zero tinkering.

[@amrhalawa1316]

In the world of airguns artemis amazed me the most and i own real expensive airguns btw. They mix creativity and accuracy together with an amazing price. At 50 meters head to head with weihrauch hw100 you would be surprized how artemis functions.

[@jko9250]

Agree, they can easily be regulated with the excellent Robert Lane reg. Just make sure you cut the 2nd o-ring (the one closest to the breech) for venting.

[@simonrodgers7165]

Any news from Artemis on the CP2 pcp production version Andy?

[@PaulBriden]

Very helpful we have bought the pistol and the scope, well done.

[@lewislister7720]

Still relevant info thank you. 😊

[@jeffslade1892]

I've kinda gone the other way and put the Zasdar CP1 pistol grip on the CP2. Unlike the PP800 this is almost interchangeable with some minor woodworking needed. It looks like your 'new' pistol. But I've fiddled with the CP2 a little bit, made it gas tight and getting up to 60 good shots per CO2. And if anything this increased velocity to 515fps 177 around 4.5 ft lb, not immense but more than enough for a target pistol. Tweaking it was to improve grouping not increase power, perhaps too much and can still be improved. Yes PCP can give you more power but without a regulator may not produce the tight grouping attainable with CO2. Yes CO2 is dependent on temperature but the pressure will remain constant in the valve body throughout the session, liquid CO2 vapour pressure, nominal 850psi. In stock form the CP2 rifle should produce almost 600fps 177, a little over 6 ft lb which is possibly inadequate. With a few minor tweaks 7-8 ft lb is doable, and reports from elsewhere pushing it to 750fps produce 10 ft lb and a good hunter. Although this does reduce shot count to only about 30 from typical 40+. Although relatively cheap the CP2 is very, very accurate. Good components perhaps let down a little by the factory assembly, and that can be sorted. The little Hawke is excellent on the pistol, and the rifle's rear plastic iron sight can be moved to the front breech to provide a crude co-witness; a blob of Blu-Tack replaces the height spring, I didn't want to do anything permanent or non-adjustable 😉

[@dirkdoenvanv.8156]

Superb video!

[@scousewillo62]

Just re visited your review as people where arguing that the HW44 was the only worthwhile PCP pistol. Gave then the link to this review, Bargain price for such a great pistol. The CP2 mash up was very interesting.

[@BionicRusty]

This is a cracking video, Andy. 👏👏 I truly want to venture into PCP on a real budget and this may be the route.

[@Sertao2013]

I think the pp800 would make a great beginner10 meter air pistol . If you can adjust it down to around 500 fps .

[@martynsoogen7464]

i made this one,i have the pcp and my friend took the bandit co2 stand by it still ,very fun the stormrider is great too ,higher shotcount and power and the bolt is on the other side ,so take that in mind (one is rifle style ,one is pistol)

[@ordnanceant]

Would be good to see a review of the new PP800R which has a regulator fitted

[@boxingaudits7522]

I just got one , I put an upgraded silencer to Weihrauch sport using 1/2” adapter and a hawke vantage 1X30 red dot , and a barrel band with rail for light , down the range at 15 yards the grouping is brilliant for the first 20 shots , am using the FAC version now am thinking of buying a CP2 to give me more options , powers great to for a pistol , chronoed at 1st shot charged at 205 bar = 11.24 ft/lb 2nd= 12.56 ft/lb 3rd = 13.21 4th= 13.89 5th = 14.21ft/lb , 6th = 14.06 7th= 13.62 , 8th 12.98 ft/lb 9th = 12.25ft/lb 10th 11. 81ft/lb by the time I got to shot 20 = 10.54 ft\ lb ,, and pistol needs refilling .. as you can see powers good but I think it could do with a regulator for good consistency , if I turned it into a rifle with barrel and the stock I would expect to reach 18 to 20 ft/lb of power , not bad for a PP800 pistol lol, As I live in the uk i understand uk laws ,as in 6ft/lb , but this pistol needs to be appreciated , love your channel , think you doing a great job , any cp2,s going cheap let me know . Regard

[@buijs1967]

Very nice, but the Artemis PP750 is even nicer and more consistent. Thanks for your great reviews.

[@markhomer5704]

Great review Andy , I really do hope it will make it into production , it would be an excellent starter pcp as well as an competent close distance ratter .. would I buy one? HELL YES , will I buy one if it goes into production? NO ... I already have the FANTASTIC Artemis pp700 .. that truly is a fantastic pistol ( actually bought it because of your vid on it ) all i need is to get a stock addition after ive re-sealed it .. ( it was whacking out a considerable amount of power prior to me lowering it to legal limit , dont think that helped with the seals .. ) very good vid Andy , good old " down to earth " stuff , with AFFORDABLE content ... a lot ( and I there is a lot ) of reviewers out there are getting carried away these days with constant high end stuff .. gets on me tits a bit ... forgetting there roots id say ...

[@philsaunter2555]

Further to my earlier post ..... I’ve got my PP800 from Spain - doesn’t have a UK flag on the side so I guess it’s full power. I don’t have a chrono but it makes the same dent in an oil drum at 15mtrs as my UK legal AirArms S410 carbine. On a practical note... I’ve put the PP800 workings into my CP2 stock - no problem. However... to put the CP2 guts into the wooden stock from the PP800 you need to take a 19mm auger an take out about 5 or 6 mm centered on the rear fixing screw hole of the PP800 stock. My CP2 doesn’t have the rear fixing screw but a lug that you need to make room for. I’ve only had chance to shoot off 2 magazines, but it seems awesome!

[@denisgilbert1283]

Hi, thanks Andy. I have one, different brand name, Snowpeak, but same gun, PP800. I have a problem filling the chamber with air. I have a compressor, that appears to work ok, & the right connector that came with it, but it won't pressure up when set up & the compressor is on. It did originally a couple of times, now nothing. On the gun, I've adjusted the inner valve behind the dial that unscrews, but still no joy. Do you have any suggestions to try, because it is a lovely piece.

[@alicew9327]

Be really good to see you put the pistol together so I can give it a go if I choose to buy all the pistols required to get there.

[@thebackyardairgunner8776]

For the money this is a outstanding pistol/carbine !

[@hanshjort3966]

I have been tinkering with my PP 800 and CP2 "building" a PP2 or PP802? And now when it is time for supper I have a look at my phone and lowe and behold, a recommendation from KZbin, a video from AAR on air about the exact same thing that I've been tinkering with !?! 😮😁 How wierd is that? 😊

[@mikemoon2659]

another good presentation

[@simonrodgers7165]

Any news/developments on the pcp version of the CP2 yet Andy?

[@briandix216]

A PCP CP2 eh Andy ? Now that I do like. Perfect and powerful enough for ratting in the back garden? Oh I hope smk do release this version of the CP2, love it.

[@andybaker3135]

Just done the conversion. Its not all that simple to do as the CP2 Action has a small plastic tab at the back of the action which prevents it being slotted into the PP800's wooden stock. A quick bit of fettering with a file soon sorted that problem out. So now have a PCP Cp2 in rifle mode and an awesome CO2 wooden stocked air pistol.

[@SoberRider78]

Nice one . Hope to do the same in near future . Have you given it much of a run out yet ?

[@dingfeldersmurfalot4560]

What a great concept with the second part of your review! Get yourself some spares, some flexibility, something that suits you better for whatever reason. Nicely done!

[@bayouflats5054]

Thanks

[@paulharrison4926]

having played with the variations people might like to hear that the breech seal on/in the barrel end is the same as a BSA Hornet transfer port seal , well it is in .22 anyway

[@charlesmckinley29]

Hi Paul, I’m new to PCP guns how would what you said help me? There is so much to learn. Thank you

[@MrBilld75]

The Victory CP2 is also known as the Diana Chaser and the Artemis PP800 is the Diana Bandit for those interested. The CP2 is hard to get outside Europe I've noticed and sometimes even the Artemis P800, but the Chaser is not nor Bandit, they are very common. Now retailers are even Frankensteining their own versions too, lol, like a Diana Chaser PCP, a .25 barrel swap kit for the Artemis P800 and Bandit and they sell .25 cal Bandits, they smartly played this, make a solid platform (and it is, people rave about the Diana products for affordable accurate shooting in the Chaser and Bandit etc). and then make it all interchangeable. So cool.

[@Sms68]

Hey Bill, I just received the Diana Airbug .177 2 Days ago and it is Very Cool Pistol and great price at 129.00. Right out of the Box the sights were dead on and has some nice power. It also comes with a 9 shot auto which is way cool. I didn’t test the FPS yet. I am wondering if the Chaser rifle barrel would fit on it or any extended Barrel. I don’t have a PCP set up yet or I would have bought the Bandit or the Beeman 2027 PCP. Take Care Scott

[@MrBilld75]

@@Sms68 Hmmm not much info on the Airbug and mods for the Airbug period. Although, just by looking at the two, I'd say "some" kind of Diana, Artemis, etc. will have something to fit it. The upper in that gun looks the same as the Diana Chaser CO2 and considering how they use this platform on most of their guns, I am sure something from them will fit that Airbug. They all use only two platforms and even those are interchangeable to a large degree, one for the PCP's and one for the CO2 and not much is different even there. I think the cocking bolt changes sides and one can take the .25 cal and the other cannot (without some modification and machining skills). The Bandit and other PCP's can take the .25 cal barrel I don't think the one used on the Chaser, Airbug etc can, although I could be wrong. Still learning about Diana guns myself. Seems the interchangeability is super broad though, so it strikes me something out there can turn your gun into a carbine with a longer barrel. It looks for all the world like the Chaser in a Bandit style ergonomic grip. Just looking at it, you could likely drop it into a Chaser stock and grip setup, so it may indeed take the same barrel? There was even people in forums talking about how little info. there seems to be about the Airbug, vs. The Chaser, Stormrider, Bandit etc. On the plus side, everyone talking about it, love the gun for it's accuracy, like most of their products. I think if anyone would know, it would be the folks in airgun forums, maybe join some and find out? That's where I found some info. and even then not much, but maybe by posing a question about it, someone will know for sure.

[@Sms68]

Bill, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I called Pyramid and they said there isn’t much for the Airbug. I probably have 12 Different Pistols. I’m doing upgrades to my Crosman 2300T right now. If I get into the PCP, what compressor would you recommend without breaking the Bank. I really don’t want a Hand Pump. Anyway, Great Channel.. Just SUBSCRIBED All the Best Scott

[@MrBilld75]

@@Sms68 Yeah I just subbed to AAR last week. It seems like a good channel. I don't own a PCP "yet" but am in the process of shopping for one. I don't really have a recommendation for a compressor, although I have an option on oil less compressors and oiled are better at preventing rust in the tanks, as they blow a bit of oil into them and line the tanks and extend their life. Even Campbell Hausfeld says oil are better than oil less compressor for lifespan. And they sell oil less compressors, lol! I just have an old 4 gallon Ingersol Rand general purpose oiled compressor that I will probably use for the PCP. But I should get a moisture filter/separator for it as that is a wise idea. I have one inline for my airbrush that I made myself out of a new fuel filter for a motorbike I think, cause paint and moisture don't mix, but should probably get a proper one for compressors. And people do recommend getting a moisture seperator if your compressor doesn't already have one. Makes sense who wants to be blowing moisture into an airgun? I think any cheap oil less or oiled compressor should do. Just ALWAYS make sure to open the drain cock on the tank when finished and leave it open. Because depending on the humidity where you live, moisture can build up inside a closed tank and corrode it that way too, not just when air is generated and inside it. If the cock is slightly off the the side like it is on many, tip the tank when drained of air, so that the remaining drips fall out the drain cock. Little trick a Mechanic showed me. If it mounted basically directly on the bottom, no worries about tilting it, but if it's off the one side on the bottom like many, tilt it toward the drain to "fully" drain it and then leave the cock open, so air can continue to dry it and moisture doesn't build up in it. Exploding compressors from corrosion over the years are no joke, saw a KZbin vid. of one (although this dude welded his drain cock, because of corrosion, so he had it coming and people told him, NEVER weld pressure vessels unless you are an expert welder of pressure vessels and know your stuff). He explained he knew how stupid he had been to commenters and it's something he would never do again and nobody got hurt, but man, it tore that thing up. Some people put them in a separate compressor room etc. just in case of something like that happens. Tools etc. can become shrapnel in the path of that. I noticed that a lot of airgun compressors sold by the like of Umarex etc. are tankless, like a car tire one and just generate air as needed, although I see people fill them from Scuba tanks etc. all the time too, so maybe it's just how they make airgun compressors, for lightweight portability, I don't think there is a particular reason they use tankless other than that and tanked or tankless should be fine. The Campbell Hausfeld's are generally pretty cheap, I owned a little one years ago and they are reliable, albeit loud. Seen many people use them for computers etc. and they make real small light ones. Like a little 1-2 gallon pancake tanked one, that is super light and was cheap, under $100. It just wasn't suitable for anything bigger than blowing stuff out or powering a small airbrush and I wanted something to power airtools, so I got a good Ingersol Rand used from a guy for $25, the same price I sold the little Campbell Hausfeld for, hehehe. I think Hyundai sells cheap compressors too, I see them at Walmart and have heard people say they are alright too and won't break the bank.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@Sms68 if you don’t mind chineese compressors the hong yang (spelling?) have been out for a while and there are several videos showing how they have to be used. The pressures needed are 2000-3000 psi (two - three thousand psi.). This is 10 to 20 times more than a standard garage air compressor. I use the Hill hand pump sold by Air Venturi.

[@stevehillsden5907]

Hi Andy Really enjoy watching your videos. How about a comparison video on the PCP PC2 and the PP750? Keep it up Cheers Steve

[@braddbradd5671]

Isnt compressed Air better than CO2 for airguns i found that out from playing paintball years ago ? Can they also be used with air ?

[@erikskanes5552]

The PP800 is also available in a single shot, .25 cal.

[@brianbrown4965]

has the new cp2 camo with right hand cocking leaver in uk yet. have asked the shop in nottingham but they have not heard of this one .

[@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490]

Very clever and entertaining, brilliant Andy!

[@DaviddoesStuff]

In PCP form that would be an amazing little rifle. Thanks for you review.

[@AmanoEu]

Would combining the Diana Chaser and Diana Bandit get the same result? They seem similar but even cheaper?

[@charlesmckinley29]

This is my question as well.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Thank you for the review. Ok, you're right in saying the owner doesn't have to buy CO2. But how many CO2 cartridges can be bought for the $250 price of the unmentioned good hand pump? Around 250. 4: 48, in some of the PP800 .177 cal. magazines, the cylinder and exit hole don't line up exactly, but is fixable by carefully using a small rat tail file. This gun is the same as the Diana Chaser, which maintains the high quality. 6: 45, did you really make those shots without using a bench? 7: 35, another good example of bigger caliber not necessarily making more KE. It depends on the starting place. What interesting guns! Thanks again for showing.

[@neilmoors6415]

Could you do a review of the cp2 pcp version😊

[@mauriopiaatti8459]

Are these basically Diana bandit and chaser? I talked with Tyrone Mclaren and he said Bandit and chaser are not interchangeable, because the screws are different

[@simonnoble7589]

Good afternoon Andy , great Review and entertaining. Very interesting . 👍 Great work Andy , thank you 😊 cheers Simon

[@mrmactknife]

This surprised me a great deal, but in a good way :)

[@nikapanchulidze1179]

Can you tell me which pellets did you use for .177?

[@TheMcpvideo]

Awesome guns✌️

[@reecethomas9758]

Great review

[@Reknaw155]

What about the PP750 vs PP800? I'm not fussed about turning it into a rifle much and I think getting a PCP would be cheaper in the long run than having to order CO2 all the time.

[@gwhitfield4239]

In the USA Andy, its a Diana Bandit. In a. 22 cal. Out of the box it shoots a high of 780 fps (14.3 gr. Crosman domes). 19.32 FPE. This is so much better than a co2 powered pellet pistol.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Thank you for confirming this. Is your pistol as accurate as the one tested? Thank you.

[@gwhitfield4239]

@@charlesmckinley29 absolutely it is!..but I just got the 19" stormrider barrel in .22 from pyramyd air and it's a rifle now!! I have a bipod on the barrell and a good scope and holy smokes....had to boil the moderator loose from the 9.5" barrell to be able to silence it because it was loud...too loud to shoot indoors or backyard. Sounds like a 22 magnum without the silencer on either barrell. I'm gonna get a. 177 stormrider and I'll be able to switch it from .177 to .22.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@gwhitfield4239 Thank You! I got a Marauder and a pump for my birthday. With the air supply hurdle crossed I think it is time to add to the stable.

[@gwhitfield4239]

@@charlesmckinley29 I bet you are liking that!! I've been thinking about the P-rod myself...

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@gwhitfield4239 I wish I had bought it years ago! I got the polymer stock on Tom Gaylord’s recommendation. I shoot mainly prone so getting the scope far enough forward was a challenge. The Lothar Walther barrel upgrade gives you a pic rail and is cheaper than just buying the barrel. 500 Crossman .22 pellets is only $6.24 at Walmart and make one ragged hole at 25m from prone.

[@courtneyashley2570]

Wonder if these are available in the USA

[@stephenhowlett6345]

Love these programs just wish we had same choice in air guns as a lot of other countries but of course we can’t be trusted by nanny state.

[@engineeredlifeform]

I'm looking at a PCP as the next addition to the quiver,.... if this gets produced I'm quite interested, as I was considering adding the CP2 as well,...... choices,... choices.

[@joseignacioch.c.6046]

thank form lima peru

[@danielcreppel5760]

Would love to have one like you made is a beautiful pistol❤❤

[@braddbradd5671]

Another thing i like about the piantball industry is the large trigger guards .Often in a square shape ..I think they look cool ,Iv gon of these small 70s pistol style guards ,Is there any reason why Air guns dont have this ?

[@cliffburt6027]

Which Hawke vantage red dot sight best fits this pistol 1x20 1x25 or 1x30 which one do you have fitted

[@kiylemcgovern1340]

I'm stuck between the pp800 and the reximex mito both in 22cal, could anyone give me any advice please it would much appreciated? it will be used for close rage rat work, thanks

[@badboybones9687]

Could I just buy a cp2 long barrel and apply it to the pp800 ?

[@mikeenglish7063]

Theres a company on ebay selling aftermarket magazines. No put pellets in backwards. Easier to use. Also have a 14 pellet one. Waiting for mine to arrive

[@gorteenwildlifeconservatio2371]

What is the Hawke scope as a matter of interest? Thank you

[@paulhudson6778]

Hi i have a victory cp2 and need a conversion rail from 22 to 11 mm to fit a red dot sight , but having trouble buying one that works can you help please Thanks. Love your channel its 100

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

have they made one yet? could you instal a longer spring to up the power in rifle form?

[@alistairmonaghan6515]

Just got a CP2 and chuffed with it...and that's without the barrel extension.

[@DataLog]

How is nobody noticing that 5 different companies are reselling the same identical model of an airgun and calling it a different name... I see reviews from same people, treating identical airguns as something new...

[@ohenekojo2561]

Right?!? They do it just to create endless content. It doesn't seem that any of them even mention it.

[@Bmr4life]

This is a great video. Can't wait for my Bandit and regulator to arrive.

[@kevwalker430]

Fantastic as always, my next purchase me thinks

[@alex79buckland]

Hiya bud another good video as always was just wondering if 2yrs on now have they made a pcp version of it yet

[@ambientfish1369]

My CP2 may be getting a PP800 to mate with soon. Great work Andy.👍

[@PeakyBlinder]

im selling one if you are interested, only used 3 times as new. from pelpax

[@stevo1166]

Liked the idea of trying one of these to upgrade my cp2, bought the pp800r version which is new and supposed to be regulated. I had high hopes but was disappointed, the regulation was terrible, I got one shot of good power then the velocity dropped and just kept dropping through the charge. Went from 5.6 ftl to 2.8 ftlb over 40 shots. Long story short managed to get it replaced with a pp700sa and what a better gun. A far more serious, quality gun which holds pretty consistent velocity all the way through. Single shot but still the gun to go for!!!

[@neilp9434]

so is the pp800r the same as the pp800 just regulated as i want to go down the cp2 route

[@stevo1166]

@@neilp9434 I've not owned the standard pp800 but I reckon the pp800r version I owned briefly was not regulated so no different. The cp2 is not regulated either but is about £ 100 cheaper than 800's and comes with long barrel and 2 mags. Best imo with the long barrel, they're a fun gun and prob one of the best c02 guns going for the money. They are accurate and go well with a small scope for a bit of pest control if needed.

[@tonywilliamson4512]

Hi,any news on a pcp version yet please.?

[@jcdupuy4809]

To regulate, huma air is selling a régulator for the pp800

[@jko9250]

I got the Robert Lane SMK reg from ebay. Cheaper, and very well made. Performs like a charm in my pp800 pistol and in my 2 pr700w carbines, bringing them to an amazing level of consistency ... Just be sure to cut the back o-ring (breech side) for breathing.

[@konstantinNeo]

In US/Mexico these are sold under Diana brand, pistol is Diana Bandit, are these brands the same or Diana rebrands them?

[@52memor]

Brilliant !!! thanks

[@junglagijoe]

Hello, I would like to know if the 8 that comes with the cp2 could be put on the pp800 to give consistency to the long barrel and have a cp2 pcp? Thank you for your response and very good channel! greetings from Spain.

[@toolinaround-est2024]

I'm half joking but how do you check the gauge on these type of things without muzzle sweeping yourself

[@blakesterr.9599]

The old 2240 C02 guns had a detachable stock. I wouldn't mind if Weihrauch built a stock for the HW44. I put a TLR-2 that I use on my G-29. Anyways, after watching the UK guys snipe rats and mice, I went outside at night on the ranch looking for some rats. PCP pistols are accurate nowadays. I shoot open sights, and routinely hit the Crossman metal squirrel paddle reset target at 40 yards. I shoot pistol alot on powder burners, so I like the HW44. It's deadly accurate. I've taken rabbit in the eye at 45-50 yards. The Hades 15.8gr work well in it, and 18.13gr JSB too. It will take Terminator H&N 16.36gr. Bigger budget item, but it has rails.

[@billreynolds2766]

Hi Andy. .. Im in Texas and iv got a question about the diana bandit and the rifle ..have you ever checked to see if the air cylinder off the rifle will go on the bandit. Ive done the change over from the chaser rifle and the bandit. More air volume is needed. Change the cylinder maybe? Thanks for your advice and support. .

[@jko9250]

Same cylinder diameter allright, but need to check if will fit into the stock (b/c of different trigger group, placement of attachment screw and pressure gauge underneath.)

[@ferrarista27]

I have a Diana chaser in carbine mode. It is the same as the CP2. I want to put a scope. Should I go Hawke Vantage 2-7x32 or 3-9x40 mil dot ?

[@SoberRider78]

2-7 x 32 better

[@Engineerboy100]

The gun can achieve the 600 fps and stay under the legal force limit by using much lighter pellets.

[@brianamuro3023]

The PP800 looks exactly like the Diana Chaser.

[@chrispeat285]

I've wanted the Benjamin wood Walker for ages but cant find it in the uk........maybe this will do great vid Andy yet again

[@heathhalfhill6867]

Is the air cylinder 40ccs or 50ccs? I’m turning mine into a FAC Carbine thanks to your idea. I have the Diana Bandit .22 and it is a tack driver to 30-40 yards. With the longer barrel…it’s velocity and shot count should improve and still be able to be thrown in a backpack.👍 I’m think of regulating it but haven’t yet since I will never shoot it past 40-50 yards with 16 grain pellets. Still…it’s you fault that I’m getting nagged at for wanting to buy the Diana Chaser Carbine kit just to convert my Bandit into a Carbine. Thanks a lot for a couple nights on the couch my friend.🤣🥴🤣😂😉💯

[@JustNobodi]

So can you take the silencer of and it still shoot normally

[@jambutty2218]

Is the 800 an upgrade on the 750.. Or are they very different guns. Love your channel and reviews..

[@JDG506]

Great review and some clever swopping of parts. I would like to post a question on the PP700. Mine has a lot of up and down swivelling movement where the folding stock connects to the grip. How can one reduce or remove this movement?