Practical Ballistics for .22LR

[@DWalter.27]

Keep the 22 content coming. I swapped over to mostly 22 pistol a year ago because all the other ammo just costs too much. I've seen my skills vastly improve because I can actually afford to shoot now

[@bluecollaramerican3884]

Same $43 for 50 bullets or $60 for 800 bullets 😏

[@kennethrimmer1883]

I went from a sub par pistol shot to really good with a ruger mark 4. It allowed me to actually get out and shoot ALOT and work on my fundamentals.

[@cunnelatio]

Won't help much with flinch or recoil control though

[@Fabyfakid]

@@cunnelatio it definitely helps if he carries 22lr for self defense

[@DWalter.27]

@@cunnelatio I'm telling you, I've vastly improved as a shooter, recoil control included, and I carry one of the worst recoiling carry guns (a S&W 340PD; my trainer is a S&W 43c). If you shoot the 22 limp then yeah you don't learn anything, but if you actually use your same grip with the 22 trainer as you do with your carry gun, then you do grow. And if I didn't do 22lr, then it would be dry fire or no practice at all. So not like my alternatives train recoil any better.

[@simon134]

Coming back around to my youthful fondness of the venerable 22lr. It's like the trusty old knife you've always carried in your pocket that you often forget you even have, but sure are glad you have when you need it.

[@christofrini]

Something that I wish you had emphasized slightly more: Keep in mind that for a “pest control” rifle, the size of your “pest” is extremely important. Eg, if you’re hunting a squirrel with a roughly 4 inch “kill box”, then you’re looking at a bullet drop nearly twice as large as your target with some of those subsonic loads at 100 yards. If you have a mil / BDC reticle and know your holds, this is fine - but the supers effectively double or triple the “point blank” range, and you have the option to zero for 50 and effectively ignore drop out to 100yds. For larger pests and/or smaller ranges, this isn’t an issue, but it’s worth knowing the capabilities of your rifle.

[@LuckyGunner]

Discussed briefly in the previous video -- I personally prefer headshots on pests, so that leaves almost no margin for error. Even with a BDC reticle, you'd need to be able to eyeball the difference between something like 100 and 120 yards, which is tough. Of course, if it's on your property or somewhere familiar, you may already know exact ranges based on landmarks, etc. If I needed more range, or wanted to settle for body shots, I'd probably look into something like a .22 magnum or .17 HMR.

[@BeefNEggs057]

I was looking at a ballistics app and it looks like zeroing at 25 yards is ideal. The bullet is rising out to 50 yds and then falls back out to 100yds. So 25yds zero makes the 100 yd drop almost nil with high velocity rounds and very manageable even with subsonics. If you zero at 50yds you get a lot more noticeable drop at 100. Seems counterintuitive until you remember how curved a 22 shoots. Not a flat shooter at all. 25 yds gives the best fit for everything inside 100 yds. You get a bit of right spin movement at 100 from where you are aiming is what I have noticed. Look at a ballistics app and you’ll see the 25 yd zero gives you 2 inches high at 50yds and 2” low at 100. Both easy to compensate for. Going off memory on the 2” but should be close.

[@johnelder4273]

Nobody with half a brain is shooting squirrel size game at 100 yards with a .22lr. You are shooting pests at 50 yards max, usually at 35 yards or less. Otherwise you would be using a .223 or .556.

[@mattmarzula]

@@BeefNEggs057 Apps aren't reality. Is your scope 3" above the boreline? Because none of that would be true at any initial velocity for .22 LR. I've shot and been shooting .22 Short, Long, LR, and Magnum for nearly three decades. Even the Norma .24gr at 1,700 fps from a 24" barrel won't do that +2" at 50 yds -2" at 100 yds ballistic magic. Until you're shooting .22 Hornet or .223 Rem or something nearing 2,100 fps there's no standard 5mm pill doing what you're claiming. Especially with a standard powder charge between 0.5 and 2.0gr. for subsonic and high-velocity respectively. Check your memory. There isn't a .22 LR in existence that performs like that out of any barrel length in existence at any scope height in existence. That's just some bench rest shooter Fudd bullshit.

[@johnweymouth5685]

I'm old school, (back b4 the days of scopes with bullet drop compensation), the rule of thumb for 22lr in a rifle, (does not apply the same 4other calibers), is sight it dead on at 10yrds and it hits dead on again at 75yrds. The trajectory is so close this works for all 22lr ammo and groups are tight enough it works for all ranges between 10&75yrds. I was taught this by my uncle (great depression error)&I've used this method all my life using rem 40gr thunderbolts to cci stingers in my old Ithaca with iron sights & ruger 10/22 with weaver 4x scope. The results were with both rounds and both rifles at 10yrds 10 rounds inside a dime area & 10 rounds inside a half silver dollar at 75yrds & all only raising about a half inch at top of trajectory. After 75yrds the drop was more extreme. The 22 is a capable and humane little round out to about 75yrds, after that it's more of an inhumane stunt for pest control or small game

[@emocionadodag2c235]

I trust my life on 22LR and i live in extreme dangerous place, Brasil! I'm used Walther P22, taurus tx22 and semi auto rifle cbc which in US are magtech or something like that, mainly because ammo price, 22LR has advantages my wife can shoot, and i can storage large amounts of ammo!

[@MrTruckerf]

Stay safe, my friend!

[@ojeandias]

Emocionado da G2C kkkkk

[@onemanarmy36]

Sad to hear that your current president just banned 9mm cartridges in your country.

[@Beniah107]

I like your concentration on how much ammo you can store. A great thought, given the difficulty of supply that’s not recovered post Covid farce.

[@Usnveteranstacker]

These are all absolutely great reasons.

[@philiptheriault7953]

The CCI low noise 22 shorts work perfect for pocket gophers out of my heritage rough Rider. Great garden gun and garden rounds

[@incredible3214]

There is much love ❤️ for the .22lr

[@natejackson4791]

Chris, this is one the most interesting series you have done to date. I have a comparable rifle, Marlin XT22YR, 16 inch barrel I have made into a project gun. My project has been on hold for quite sometime, your work has inspired me that I am now going to dedicate some time and continue my quest to see just what I can expect from this rig.

[@gunsandcommissions]

This is timely and a very hot topic right now.

[@susanbutler2498]

My main shootin' buddy & I are focusing on our multiple .22lrs today in the paddock Chris. Later, when we use our bigger calibers, the .22lr practise definitely helps our groups! Goodonya Mate, NZ.

[@ptrskycam]

I love 22lr content. I have similar 100 yard drops with comparable ammo - thanks for the data point. I enjoy all your videos. More, please!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good stuff. Thank you for doing the leg work & providing great data.

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks, I love the 22lr content 👍👍

[@johnyurick8785]

Had a single shot .22 savage with.410 shot gun underneath /// over under……. Great fun 🇺🇸😎🌴🇺🇸

[@robertkroberjr.157]

@john yurick a friend of mine had the same thing, except it was a 20guage/22lr. 😎✌

[@johnyurick8785]

@@robertkroberjr.157 wow even better 🇺🇸😎🌴🇺🇸

[@SMac-bq8sk]

Yes sir! That was a Savage Model 24. One great o/u combo rifle. My dad had one. I think it may've been the first rifle I ever shot. We'd go plink cans down by the creek with it when I was a kid of about age 7. Never will forget the time he toggled the button down to the .410 barrel without telling me. Wow, what a surprise! I absolutely loved that rifle. About 10 years ago, Savage brought the o/u .22/.410 combo back into production as the Savage Model 42. It's a nice rifle, but not quite the same as the original 24, which had a nice wood stock & forend. If you still have a 24, hang onto it. They're becoming kinda rare.

[@johnyurick8785]

@@SMac-bq8sk yes I bet ……. My oldest brother got it after our dad passed……….

[@erikdavalos3630]

22. Is pretty cool

[@traillesstravelled7901]

Just started to get into the whole .22lr thing, allot of fun and much more affordable at the range.

[@PetuniaIii-pd1ww]

Cheap bulk means regular range time...shooting is shooting in most regards, our bottom line we can't see for sh!t...but, today was my 3rd time at the range this week, no way I could afford it blowing up bigger bullets...

[@Sheppard2030]

Highly interested in additional 22LR content. 👍👍

[@dylanskutches3539]

Always here for 22 stuff

[@randyb3851]

For anyone who is wondering a prairie dog is a type of animal, not an actual dog. He isn't the ATF

[@huskergator9479]

Weirdly enough, some folks outside the US apparently have prairie dogs as pets. Who knew?

[@rappmasterdugg6825]

Go Big Red!

[@carlosmontes259]

Love my 22's!

[@Duke93720]

.22 rocks

[@brocknspectre1221]

Thanks for this! I stopped the video a couple times to get screen shots of your stats, which reminds me, I really need to put an order in today to Lucky Gunner for more .22lr!

[@maxinelouchis7272]

as always, I love your spreadsheets. Thanks.

[@GlennJudah]

Always great, and , very useful information ! Thanks

[@stephen.mcguire]

Thanks, thought there was an A in stingers... Great stuff I have a 22LR plinker I'm trying to setup, thanks for the info.

[@BaritoneMonkey]

22plinskster and his stangers

[@yrusonoz5574]

@@BaritoneMonkey was literally thinking the same thing 😂

[@PetuniaIii-pd1ww]

We just got off the range a couple hours ago, shooting federal automatch through a couple of Henrys...the targets were 4 inches at 100 yards, and we hit them not quite half the time...I myself never got comfortable, and the missus was doing her thing...I like to blame the cheap ammo, but then again it does keep us at the range on a weekly basis...we could probably tighten up with better ammo, but on a fixed income something else would then suffer...oh, well...

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

I would like to know what type of accuracy you got from each load. My personal experience is the standard velocity ammunition tends to group better at longer ranges due to not having to pass through the sound barrier, all else being equal.

[@CharlieMikeNS]

This. Standard velocity ammo groups far better out of every gun I've ever used. If I get a good rest I can punch half inch groups at 50 yards with my Tikka T1x with good ammo. Even CCI Standard Velocity hovers at around 0.75". High velocity stuff often struggles to get 3" groups at 50 yards. Including Mini-Mags and Stingers. I've literally never had good accuracy with high velocity ammo.

[@LuckyGunner]

200 yard groups: CCI Mini Mag: 3.4" CCI Clean 22 Subsonic: 5.6" CCI Stinger: 7.1" Winchester Wildcat: 10.5" Eley Subsonic HP: 12.1" Remington Viper: 13.5" Wind was sporadic and heavy enough to open up the groups a bit, so take all that with a grain of salt. There was no clear correlation between velocity and accuracy. Remington Viper grouped poorly at all distances. Either the truncated cone shape hurts accuracy, or the Savage just doesn't like that particular load. The Eley would have been closer to 4 or 5 inches, but there was one flyer.

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

@@LuckyGunner Thank you so much!

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

@@CharlieMikeNS Same here. I use high velocity at close range, 30 yards and in.

[@OldPackMule]

@@CharlieMikeNS I found the same.

[@Unethrorpe]

Love the videos - thanks, man!

[@ianchernencoff7968]

This is well produced. thank you for respecting our time and intelligence. Liked and subbed because i wasn't asked, you just made an informative entertaining video. bravo

[@TimberwolfCY]

Super interesting, and well-done concise presentation. Thanks!

[@garrythomson6006]

I was always a 22lr booster but even more so with the high cost of center fire ammo the last two years.

[@topshot95]

Would like to see 22 wmr next. Thats what i use for rabbits and coyote out to 200

[@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen]

Woo-hoo! New LGA video! Made my day, Chris!

[@markadams7597]

My fav LR is an A39 with Rem's "Vipers". I'm a lever fanboy. Great vid, Ty.

[@cheesenoodles8316]

I am of generation that got a 22 rifle when a wee lad. A treat was box of Stingers. I already had a grasp of ballistics. About a hundred yards was far as we would shoot. 50 yards was the most common. I was an adult before I got any sub sonic. In my old bolt 22, pretty quiet. I like your setup. I may put a scope on mine

[@WayStedYou]

I've come to find the cci velocitor to be really good. Stingers energy falls off a cliff fairly quickly.

[@BeefNEggs057]

They tested in the top in this guys penetration test even in pistols (the stinger did terrible - great for squirrel though). I buy them every time I can find them.

[@tristantimothy1004]

@@Stu650Zuk , Stingers suck. Terrible accuracy & flatness dosent count if they wont group tight. Mini mags & CCI Velociters however are freikin awesome. Up at our gold claim, I hit a smart ass coyote @ 800 yards with an AR7 & mini mags. Sucker was waking me up every morning EARLY by sitting on a cliffs edge & getting our dog barking. Spent the afternoon ranging in with a mil dot scope. Next morning i was up EARLY waiting on them.( pack) The"barker" sat on his usual spot & i hit him square in the sternam. The pack hauled ass & i got the last one over the ridge right up his tailpipe @ just over 900 yards. Sheer dumb luck last shot as i was emptying the magazine chasing them. Found both slugs IN their hearts completely NON expanded. But it killed em all the same. Love thoes Mini Mags!! I think the drop was 30-40 feet. I put the very bottom of the scope about 5 ft over the sitting yotes head. I dont know WHO was more surprised. Me or the yote. He leaped off the cliff when hit. The runner was 40 feet over the hill face down dead eating dirt. Slug went right through his soft internals into its heart. Never in a million years did i think id make either shot. Just wanted to get close & scare em so i could sleep in. THAT pack never came back. 30 years earlier i jumped a HUGE Jackrabbit out walking the mesas. MISSED him at 10 feet when he broke & watched him race off the plateau, run out across the wide mesa below & up the far side into a bush w a hole in its middle the sun was shining through. The light went out in the bush so i knew he had run into it. Jack was soooo far away i couldnt even the rabbit, just his dust trail as he ran. Had my grandfathers Remington 742 & open sights. (HAD eagle eyes back then.) I laid down, put a big rock under the forend & lined up the shot with the bush, set the back end down into the sand & fired. The " hole" in the bush opened up & i could see dust flops as the Jack flew out of it tumbling down the sand hill. Ran over & found him dead. Shot in the eye w the slug still in his skull. No exit. That sucker was looking straight back at me when hit. Later returned to the same spot years later with a rangefinder & it was just under 1000 yards. Never underestimate the range of a mini mag. Granted, thoes were ALL Hail Mary shots. But out of 1000s one gets LUCKY every so often.

[@aquaholixsd]

Velocitors are the best 22lr round I have found...

[@glenmo1]

Pest control in my yard ..I use primer propelled Aguilla super Collabri ...ZERO report ..no noise !

[@colonelkernal297]

Perfect vid. Short, to the point, and informative.

[@mattberry4457]

i have an acog on my 15-22. it’s sighted in with cci hollow points. for high velocity i double the distance on the reticle ie 200 yards i use the 400 yard aiming point and with standard velocity i triple that and use the 600 yard point. it works fine for plinking plates and cans with buddies. it’s sighted in at 50 and if i was hunting i wouldn’t go much further than that.

[@peterschmidt2849]

My favorite rifle is still my ss 77/22 threaded at 16” dumb quiet with cci quiets.

[@johanneslaxell6641]

Yes, the 77/22 Allweather is nice 👍🏼. Mine like the subsonic Biathlon ammo. Thinking of getting a .22WMR of some kind next. Shooting waterfowl at 25-75 meters/yards, don't like shooting among the decoys with the shotgun...

[@-CHeWy-]

I have used stingers in a CZ 452 and taken out foxes no issues at 150 yards.

[@Goldenwithaleash]

I love shooting .22’s, especially suppressed, but my favorite for pest control is a .17HMR. The pests around me range from chipmunk to the occasional raccoon and those .17HMR polymer tipped CCI bullets work great. They look like a mini hand grenade went off just under the skin.

[@slogue77]

Hi from Australia , great vids mate ... Learning heaps , CHEERS!!!

[@jon1801]

Excellent thanks. I use all subs ( Norma ) for pesting in the UK. CZ475 with 16" and a SAK mod. I shoot near some housing at times so noise is a major issue. Also subs tend to not scare the main quarry ( rabbits) too much. I do not "dial" with the scope, just use holdover/under after using a rangefinder. I agree over 100 yards is too much, risk of wounding. However 75 is abso fine usually. Great vids!

[@thenewyorkredneck4735]

I have 3 to 5 inch groups at 100 yards with my ruger American using cci velocitor. Not the cleanest for ground hogs but it does the job

[@tunafish3216]

Great information on 22 or.

[@Bighommie-hk2ti]

I love 22 quiet and deadly

[@BenPernezny]

Speaking of 22's...2 years on from your LCP II .22 video, any updates on how that's been running for you and your friends? Ruger made any changes to improve the reliability?

[@Kuztomshop]

I love the Stingers, but I love the Velocitors even more, when I can find them...

[@LuckyGunner]

Neither one of them stay on the shelves for long when we have them.

[@maverickpaladin4155]

@@LuckyGunner my local Academy in Tomball, TX, has had Stingers in stock for the past month or 2. Who makes the Velocitor?

[@theangrycanuck8331]

@@maverickpaladin4155 CCI they're 40 grain 1425 FPS if I remember correctly. would have to check my pile.

[@WayStedYou]

@@maverickpaladin4155 CCI

[@WayStedYou]

@@theangrycanuck8331 1435 fps printed on mine

[@thefrogking481]

Mine is a CZ 457 PVT MTR, yes with a Gemtech.... With batch sorted Eley ammo I can maintain .78 MOA through the can.

[@BcFuTw9jt]

The Quiet line from CCI and Suppressed series work well for me. The segmented HP's are coated to help keep the SS Sparrow clean on the Ruger American rimfire.

[@davidashworth1985]

Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing. The force of gravity acts upon all bullets exactly the same. So if you let the bullets travel indefinitely with no target to hit, they would all eventually drop to the ground. And they would do so within the exact same time frame. (But would travel vastly different distances within said time frame). The difference with the targets is that depending on the fps, some bullets hit the target faster than others. The force of gravity is the same, but the faster bullets reach the target first, so the amount of time that gravity is acting on them gets cut short. Using that simple math, you could theoretically calculate how much a bullet will drop at a given distance based simply on fps. The manufacturer of the bullet would be irrelevant at that point--gravity doesn't care about the brand name. I think videos like this are great because they allow people to better choose ammo based on their actual needs. If you just need to hit something 15 yards away, any ammo will do. If you're trying to hit something at 150 yards without wanting to have to compensate for tons of bullet drop, then higher velocity is better.

[@PatchWorm_bore_cleaners]

Interesting that the heavier high-velocity rounds almost match the drop of the Stingers at 200 yards due to superior ballistic coefficient.

[@MyLonewolf25]

Yea but the stinger is going to have a better mean point blank due to its velocity

[@stevealexander8010]

Also compare the CCI mini-mag vs the faster remington viper. CCI drops a lot more at 100yd, yet noticeably less at 150yd. Thhe remington viper must have a much higher ballistic coefficient

[@Raflancer]

@@stevealexander8010 Thats the 40gr Minimag normally there 36gr so similar to the 36gr Remington

[@chrissidwell9455]

Sorry guys, I quit using 22lr years ago. I got tired of that racoon, opossum, skunk, ect crawling in my machine shed, barn, tool shed or machine shed and dyeing somewhere I don't find them until they begin to stink. If it's not a good head shot, they just crawl off n die with the 22lr. So about 10 years ago I switched to either a 17 HMR or 22 Magnum poly tip or hollow point. Then I stopped having escapes. The best round I've ever used is the 22 Hornet. I don't ever remember having a crawl off with it, although the price and availability of 22 Hornet ammo is something not everyone can find. But it is in my view the best around the place varmint stopper. Works good on coyotes out to about 120 yards or so also. Ammo isn't cheap, so I reload my brass. You know, that would make a good review for Chris Baker, the utility of the 22 Hornet. My CZ 527 in 22 Hornet is a 1/2 moa rifle all day.

[@johnshepherd8687]

If you aren't eating them or taking the belts and you are concerned about them crawling off .223 will do them in at the lowest possible cost.

[@chrissidwell9455]

@@johnshepherd8687 Yep, tried 223. Even with very fragile bullets I got pass threws. With cattle n equipment tires around, I could do that. Thanks for the idea though.

[@illmakeyouuncomfortable7745]

You forgot "Remington Thunderbolts". That all I use.

[@BertShackleford]

Not sure why my comment was deleted but I will make another attempt. . . . . . I like the concept of the new Federal Premium Punch in 22 LR. According to the Federal website: _"Maximum velocity for energy and penetration: 22 LR achieves 1,070 fps through 2-inch barrel handguns, 1,650 fps out of 24-inch rifle barrels."_ Seems like it has potential. Stay classy my friend.

[@LuckyGunner]

Federal Punch is a good option. We've done some testing with it and will eventually get around to doing a video about it.

[@rudolfyakich6653]

True dat yo. My first prarie dog kills were using the Stingers. Accuracy is hard to achieve for target shooting. I weighed and segregated a bunch of American Eagle last year for a match and got better results. A great hunting load for varmints are the Winchester Power Point. Previously a 40 grain now 42 grain. I have one rifle that uses .22 shorts for kills at less than 50 yards.

[@ncphotos]

Great video! Thanks for posting

[@karencollins9363]

why do you cycle the bolt so fast? if you hit what you are aiming at you don't need another round.

[@pappamike6231]

Thanks for the great information.

[@larslarson6500]

Curious on how much you had to adjust your optics for the 50 yard zero? I just added a Ruger American Rimfire for my pest gun. I was shocked on how far off my zero at 25 yards was on the CCI Stinger verses CCI CB Long. My assumption was that they two drastically different rounds would still be close a 25 yard zero. My pests are mostly cotton tail. I had been using a Ruger 10/22, but changed rifles due to the fact that the quieter CB's won't cycle the 10/22.

[@Dennisthemenace40]

In my experience, a 65 yard zero is the best suited to most 22LR loads. Max rise is an inch or less and drop at 100 yards is only about 3-4 inches. Use of a range finder is mandatory beyond 100 regardless of where you choose to zero.

[@ArmedChicano]

I can get a quarter inch groups at 100 yards WITH CALM WEATHER with the Ruger 1022 18 1/2 inch barrel with aguila super extra 40 grain , i love that gun

[@thefrogking481]

Yeah.....

[@johnh4957]

I've heard DOPE important , just thought it was big gun stuff but I can see I need to keep my DOPE and use it. Interesting, Thanks for this eye opener especially the bullet drop/group size comparison, would love to see that as a composite graphic on a target at the different ranges used. Also I think I might start using larger target(butcher paper with a sticky dot) at my range(I can staple to the backboard and the white paper shows the 22 better) to see my wild impacts-too often I'm missing paper altogether.

[@scdave100]

I love this channel. Thank you!

[@jakedistlehorst6190]

I’d be interested to know how the Federal Punch 22 performs out of a rifle

[@evancole3620]

I second this

[@treyfunderburk]

I third this

[@cheatham777]

I just got an X-22 Magpul Camper 10-22 and put a Holosun510 w a Holosun 3x magnifier I’ve slayed numerous coyotes foxes rats and squirrels with it in the last 6 months. I use CCI Stingers even tho I have some Subsonic CCI triple split varmint rds the Stinger just rocks anything 1 shot 1 Kill Semper Fi

[@kentgoldings]

I’ve hunted a lot of squirrels with 22. I won’t take a shot with a 22 past 60 yards. I’ve had squirrel crawl off after being hit with sub-sonic ammo. That’s more my bad shot placement. But, I’ve never had a squirrel walk away from minimags. 36 grain CCI mini-mag HP is the finest multi-purpose hunting ammo there is. My hunting rifles have 20-inch barrels and the mini-mags zeros at 25 yards and 50 yards with a MPBR of about 65 yards. Anything further out I grab the 17HMR.

[@johnelder4273]

50 yards is about the outside limit of a .22lr. Beyond that you need a .22 mag or better yet a .223 or 556.

[@kentgoldings]

@@johnelder4273 There are practical considerations while afield that don’t apply at the range. I can hit a woodchuck sized steel target at 300 yards with my modified precision CZ455 22LR while enjoying bench-rest conditions. Depending on my shooting position, sticks, bag, standing, sitting, prone, wind, target aspect, everything, I might pass on a 50 yard shot.

[@willheines4]

I'm using the CCI clean right now and love it, but I've had good luck with Eley as well. It just gunks up quicker.

[@oaksparoakspar3144]

I've always tried to keep .22lr short and personal - as once it starts dropping it tends to not just drop, but waver as well. The gun also matters a lot. I get a lot more drop from my Higgs (semi-auto) than I do from my Remi bolt with the same ammo and barrel length and even more drop from the shorter 10/22. At 80 yards with the same Federal 550 box (the old walmart special), I get 2", 4" and 6-8" respectively between the Remi, Higgs, and 10/22. I haven't tried, but I probably would get increasing drop over a day of shooting with the semi-autos as the action got heavier to work with accumulating crud.

[@MatWOlf-ku8mw]

Great video

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

Do you know who makes double primed 22lr? Thank you in advance for your answer

[@nunyabidniz2868]

I miss the days of CCI Blazer at $10/brick. Best of the promo .22! Gone since the days of Obamanation Pt. 1: the Stupidening. Where have the last 14 years gone to? (sigh)

[@pepep.3058]

Lucky gunner is great for buying ammo but my friend said he cant order 12 gauge because hes only 20 years old. The website says you have to be at least 21 years old. And thats not the law. The law is 18 for rifle or shot gun and that includes 9mm, .40, .45 if to be used in a rifle. And 21 for handgun ammo. I just dont understand how a company can be pro gun and sell ammo but doesnt sell even when the law states its legel.

[@timos9542]

Did you happen to take decibel readings for each type of ammo? Or by your ear, did you notice any significant differences in sound or "crack" between the subsonic and normal loads?

[@CommunismiEstCacas]

Your Savage rifle is very beautiful, I wish We could find them on sale in our country.

[@canadafirst7072]

great video...you didn't show us how to make the ingredients, you just gave us the Cake... straight to the point

[@carpwhisperer1216]

I love how KZbin gave me the notification 2 days after this was posted

[@kf2572]

You shouldn't select ammo based on how far you can shoot with the least amount of bullet drop. Grouping size out of the rifle is how you should choose the ammo for that firearm.

[@zacharybaldrige3047]

Grain to velocity ratios are important for accuracy. Usually heavy 40 to 50 grain projectiles pushing 1200 to 1500 fps are the most accurate. From. There to tighten groups you can weigh each round d and try to mach weights and have common weight rounds you can assure some type of guaranteed grouping with reduce chance of a flyer. Pcp Air rifle tunes a chonograph can teach you a lot about how far you can go with fps/grain

[@stinkymccheese8010]

There any center fire rounds with comparable to a .22lr and or .22 short.

[@LuckyGunner]

The closest is probably .25 ACP, but even that is quite different

[@gavinm1347]

50 BMG

[@lovethehuntOutdoors]

@@gavinm1347 Technically the 22lr pound for pound is far superior in most categories to the BMG and you'll save a ton on powder.

[@empireoflizards]

@@lovethehuntOutdoors But 50 BMG still does a better job on squirrels and chipmunks.

[@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen]

@@lovethehuntOutdoors That's a big, fat negative. Please stop spreading fuddlore🙏🏼

[@pnotuner1]

I've heard and maybe experienced ( I haven't tested it personally) that 22lr achieves the highest velocity from a barrel length of less than 20 inches. After 20 inches the additional length is potentially slowing the projectile down.

[@sjc1412]

Big thing you missed is transonic tumble. Shooting sub sonic out of the gate negates this but super sonic groups can open up a significant amount past 60-75 yards

[@Hungrybird474]

I like the .22 round and .22 rifles Marlin model 60 , savage f . Never shot a .22 pistol but seems to make sense a good long barrel pistol in .22 or 17hmr would be cool I think . I’ve shot .22 s for years but most recently the last two months every other day at least of not days in a row doing scopes , checking things out , making them precise and figuring out what ammo is working best and the Remington cheapo s at wal mart cycle well in semi automatic , 1200 fps 40 grain . The Winchester white was jamming . Golden boys worked well . Everything seems to worked very well cci. Stinger and them hollow point segmented Winchester did the best ballistics imo . I was shooting 50-150 yds and figured that’s about all a .22 is good for with a 3x 9 scope and bullet drop . That bullet drops hard before 200 but pretty good out to 100 and within . If it’s shooting around 1-2” close range around 15-20yds u ll be good to 100 easy . I just threw paint can lids and spray paint can lids down and watched them jump around . I thought the Bushnell banner 2 $90 @walmart has been an excellent scope fellas ! It’s clear at x9 and has been performing as good as the other name brands . I like all the cool things us hunter shooter bow shooter tool guys like to get and use .

[@seethebutter]

Very interesting. Thanks

[@wildcatindustries8030]

For practical purposes, people who are regularly dispatching varmints need to look into magnum rimfires. .22WMR offers a lot of varieties in bullet weights while pushing practical effective range to 125-150yds. The .17HMR is less flexible but against small varmints it has a super flat trajectory and more than enough penetration with both its lighter and heavier loadings. I own all three and love them all, they compliment each other very well.

[@BcFuTw9jt]

Then no reason to run suppressed. If you have never ran suppressed with a 22 bolt gun you have no idea how quiet they really are, truly "movie" quiet with subs

[@Mrpocketprospecting]

You know on the .22 ammo you sell which is high but..ships super fast when you need it quick, you should list the lot numbers on the higher grade like center x, tenex etc

[@morrismonet3554]

75 yards is my ideal sight in range for a scoped .22 and 38 grain Rem hollow point ammo. Good working trajectory out to 100 .

[@ehayes5217]

always like ur videos, thanx!🇺🇸

[@markbroad119]

A 22 at 100yards I feel the wind drift matters more than the drop

[@johnshepherd8687]

I have shot minimags out to 200 yards on the range and consistently hit a Vatmint Target. I would never take a shot at that range against an actual varmint but it is fun test my skill. My Mk II has the standard 18" barrel so the drop is slightly less than your test.

[@Bearthedancingman]

Just for fun I'd love to see you guys test the North American Arms .32NAA and .25NAA. and maybe compare them to 22LR, 25acp and 32acp. I think North American Arms have invented amazing and underestimated little cartridges.

[@wangwei2884]

bullet drop cm or inch?

[@danoneill2846]

thanks

[@mcjim256]

“220… 221, whatever it takes” ☘️

[@Rec483]

Mr. Mom !

[@ChargerusPrime]

Im hoping to get a 22 pistol for my birthday this year as I'm turning 22 years old. Will .22 work for dealing with snakes and whatnot? I daily carry a Sig p320 9mm.

[@radish1031]

a .22lr would do the job if you can hit them, but typically a round of birdshot is better suited to deal with harder to hit pests.

[@ChargerusPrime]

@@radish1031 I know that, I wanna save the skin and make belts or hat bands.

[@keithfreeman5204]

My 581s, 24 in barrel, CCI 29gn, SHORT @ 710 fps, CCI Quite, 40gn, LR @ 710 fps. With these loads, my rifle isn't any louder then a CO2 pellet pistol. No Muffler, Suppressor, Silencer, what ever you want to call it, simply isn't needed. Besides the out right HIGH COST of getting the proper paperwork to legally have one of those devices is the biggest holdback for NOT getting all the legal owner stuff. The Yellow Jackets and Stingers in my 4in, SS revolver are LOUD. At the range any noise is allowed. No need for a device. Join a Range, shoot a lot, know your equipment , get good, be prepared, PRACTICE. A 22lr round put exactly in the exact right spot, can and is deadly. O S O K

[@efeightyeight]

Did you encounter any accuracy issues with the healed bullets transitioning from supersonic to subsonic?

[@alexmcgregor2854]

Stingers are the way to go.

[@dalanwanbdiska6542]

Savannah Arsenal says 10 yards zero for iron sights , and 20 yards for scopes. I do this to my 22 s now and i hit popcans ,gophers , magpies ,ravens , crows , ducks all out to 100 yards with no hold over. I use a lever action with irons set at 10 yards.

[@barnyardbrio7597]

well made

[@HanstheTraffer]

Do you ever discuss INTERNAL ballistics for rim fire? That is more important to me.