How Did I Program This Part With Just A Few Clicks? | Machine Shop Talk Ep. 123

[@Pennypincher-ue9ux]

Do you rough these out first? Sometimes these parts warp quite a bit

[@ianbrown6820]

Been using cloudnc for two months now and its very hit or miss for me. The models must be damn perfect in order to not get geometry issues. Getting help hasnt been the best experience either. Not sure if ill continue using it or not, but YES it definitely saves time so its worth it in that regard. Also very spot on that your tool libraries have to be ON POINT in order for it to work.

[@davidawaters]

Thanks for the info. What’s it cost?

[@ianbrown6820]

@ 3k/yr or $300/mo

[@lo-fivibes96]

It’s probably hit or miss because it’s recollecting info as it goes. It’s probably testing “on the field scenarios” and learning what users like to do. What incredible times we live in.

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

CloudNC CEO here - Thanks Ian, I'm aware of the issues particularly in roughing, and we have a massive upgrade about to release that will step-change the roughing intelligence and finishing direction choices, making it a lot more hit than miss, and providing cycle times up to twice as fast. We've been working on it for over a year, hope you like the new model when it's out.

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

That's early access pricing FYI - pricing depends on scale of workshop.

[@hamzanawaz7945]

Congratulations

[@jonnycraft0471]

Do you need to model the deburring with little champfers on the part? or can you say deburr just all edges?

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

It'll deburr all edges by default (provided you have the right tooling, and currently with a few exceptions, e.g. it doesn't know how to back-deburr with lolipop cutters, that's in the 20% you'd have to do yourself) - Theo - CEO @ CloudNC

[@ThatZombieGuy27]

Very interesting video!

[@bfelker4144]

mastercam has a sort of function called feature based machining i tried it and don't like it but the cam assist looks much better i will try it

[@iansandusky417]

Very worth giving a shot!

[@DeadlyRabbit]

From what I was told FBM isn't something that Mastercam has put many resources into for last while, I tried setting it up for running plastic on our router but it wasn't great. I switched to making Operations Libraries for the different materials, and that has worked out great for the last few years.

[@iC4_GAMING]

I have a question how to calculate thrust force for a drilled hole by mathematical equations , is there a formula for thrust force ? lets say drill dia is 10mm, speed is 2500 rpm , feed rate is 100 mm/min, constant cutting speed is 78.54 m/min and feed per tooth 0.02 mm.

[@Thepriest39]

Incredibly slow roughing operation. Get some Kennametal Kor5’s and speed things up. Do any of your other machines have TSC? A must have. No spot drilling and no peck drilling. I have a VF4SS with high pressure TSC. Rocks. I use SolidCam with iMachining. It’s not AI but it does have a lot of automation. Fast machining.

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

We have a massive update to the roughing algorithm coming imminently - I agree the current version leaves cycle time on the table, and we've spent 18mths developing the V6 roughing AI. It often halves the cycle times output from the current model, and is smarter about tool selection, tool lengths, direction choices, and draws its own sketch boundaries. I think you'll like it. Theo - CEO @ CloudNC

[@Factory400]

I am shocked that you use HSS drills. Personally, I gave up on those like 15 years ago.

[@iansandusky417]

Yeah, as a job shop I need every letter, number and fractional drill size - plus metric - doesn’t make sense to stock them all in carbide

[@Factory400]

@iansandusky417 Fair point.

[@MichaelBowser-ce1px]

@@iansandusky417 You might consider cobalt stub drills if the DOC allows it. They last longer, drill harder and no spot drilling required. Thank you for all of your content!

[@MichaelBowser-ce1px]

Carbide drills are reserved for production jobs

[@Factory400]

@MichaelBowser-ce1px I use them in 100% of my prototype and low-volume stuff. It seemed to be more expensive until I looked at the time savings along with waaaay longer tool life. I rarely break them and therefore don't have the hassle of ordering or storing larger quantities. It has worked very well for me for a very long time. Overall, carbide is cheaper. Long life, less labor.

[@__Ned_Flanders__]

Daniel Larson if he was machinist

[@ChristopherDye-b3l]

Daily updates generally means unfinished when they released it. It means they are finding critical bugs daily. It’s not a good thing.

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

We update roughly every 3 weeks as the models improve and bugs are found and fixed, with a very large update about to be released that I'm stoked to show you all. It's a hugely complex piece of technology tackling an incredibly difficult problem, and the pace of development is extremely fast. It probably feels fast if you're used to annual updates from CAM, but this is just how it's supposed to be. We should expect a lot more from our CAM providers. - Theo - CEO @ CloudNC

[@timstevens3361]

im not on board with this Ian

[@iansandusky417]

Why’s that?

[@themonkeyproject]

Why not?

[@timstevens3361]

@@themonkeyproject does it read blueprints r just solid models ? i saw software that read blueprints once at intl tool show in trona while back.

[@bwheeler.]

Cloud nc is garbage. Spent more time.e correcting toolpaths than it would have taken me to start from scratch with preset ops

[@Theo-at-CloudNC]

You probably tried an early model in alpha or beta stages. Try it again now, it's an order of magnitude more capable than a year ago. Theo - CEO @ CloudNC