PRADA Cup Day 3 | Full Race Replay | Round Robins Day 3

[@reynaldneron9012]

Thank you America's Cup for a great broadcast available on youtube, for those of us on the other side of the world. Great broadcast!

[@yanndesdevises1546]

Absolutely ! Great commentary too!

[@valentinpiquemal5343]

00000000000000000000

[@Gamer-oy6hr]

Bruh

[@salmandaone]

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[@Gamer-oy6hr]

@London Finnley what’s her @?

[@benhortonben9105]

What a final race between the British and Italians, the result was irrespective- the quality of the racing was what we all want! Love it!

[@donhayward9872]

Waikaraka speedways

[@BryanBowser]

19 gazillion dollars spent on boats, training and computers but solid tactics was the deciding factor for Ineos. What fun to watch this racing!

[@Nicolas-lg6ys]

Feel for Dean Barker and American Magic. A needed win for sure. But damn that was exhilarating

[@johnmartin7158]

I do as well. But really at the end of the day questions have to be asked no matter how painful Nicolas. I said quite a few days ago if Dean is the right man for this team. Apparently one or 2 on the boat advised him not to do that manoeuvre. Anyway let us see what transpires.

[@rolfhjartsjo2772]

#

[@pltking]

Nah he’s not much chop, Spitel ate him alive.

[@Silvius.2]

Was dean crap decision and AM strategist its grinding😜

[@miken966]

Most exciting racing, of ANY kind, I've seen in many, many years!

[@evanseys6967]

Sad for AM, but glad all are safe. But GO BENNY AND THE JETS!

[@ianjudd2909]

Well what a day! Great by Britannia to keep the wins flowing and seems like it was the downwind speed and shift calls that actually kept them in race when behind to catch up and really extended the lead when they eventually got in front... fantastic team effort.

[@Investor_2000]

Impressive coverage of this prestigious race, thank you. 🇬🇧

[@kennuff2]

I want to thank you for streeming the best yacht racing ever. Fantastic what a day. I do hope American Magic can get the boat back in the water in time for next week.

[@andyamos8594]

EPIC!!!!! Fantastic footage, really enjoyable commentry, and mind blowing racing! I'm hooked!

[@The_Revealer_7]

Enjoyable and exciting race. Ineos UK is the fastest boat and best sailmanship.

[@BlueSoulTiger]

2:47:07 [Goodison?] "The smarter move is a bear-away-gybe here. It's going to be a hard manoeuvre, a real hard manoeuvre to tack-bear-away ..."

[@DTPTRW]

Great spot. That's exactly what he says. But then they completely ignore him.

[@martindyer7410]

But presumably his job to release the leeward backstay? I dont know but should like to know! AM seems to be very poorly set up in many ways in terms of crew

[@richardleeds1189]

What a weekend of racing !!!! Well done lads !

[@jennifermoorby8582]

Spectacular! Gutted for American Magic but what a gripping days racing!!

[@miekwest1]

Brilliant coverage! So much thanks for this!

[@enzederkoru3507]

Spectacular day of AC challenger racing . Different conditions but Team UK still THE boat to beat. Pleased no serious injuries on American team boat but its not shaping up well for them. Prada must be entering a reflective period as well. Great filming and coverage.

[@roythompson6137]

Another Ainslie/Scott Ineos masterclass!

[@AntiVaganza]

Well executed, sure. Masterclass? Not sure. The two boundary errors in the cancelled race does detract a bit.

[@roythompson6137]

@@AntiVaganza they are not the only ones. Italy cracked under pressure, both in the abandoned race and the rerun. Ineos cool and perfect tactics. Italy not only lost the race but Ineos did enough and more to win in.

[@AntiVaganza]

@@roythompson6137 I don't disagree with them being the best out there today. Just that I reserve the term 'Masterclass' for pretty flawless performances and Ineos made two big blunders that I really hope they can blame on some software glitch so that it is an easy fix...

[@roythompson6137]

@@AntiVaganza Yes, software seems to be a common problem, Italy seemed to have problems with course limits in second race.

[@shanetaylor3842]

Love the Italien guy « Take Your Time »

[@PotterOnTheWater]

Great racing and excellent camera coverage. Respectfully the audio is not good. All the commentators competing with the on-board mics makes it almost impossible to hear anything at times. When the commentators are speaking they need to mute the sailors or vice versa. It just sounds like a kitchen party where everyone is talking at the same time. I really hope they're able to change that - it would really improve the coverage.

[@dewibermingham816]

Don't mute the sailors! That's why we're watching. This is a real sail boat race - not a movie.

[@PotterOnTheWater]

Can't say I disagree...I can see how they might want to have some time for the commentators but right now it's just kind of a jumble of voices. My only concern with just having open mics for the sailors is as a viewer it may be difficult to get as much out of that if again they are all talking over top of each other (from one boat to the other) and not knowing who's voice/boat you're listening to.

[@christophvollertsen8775]

USA was 450m in front. There was no need to sail on the edge.. So.. What to say..

[@XPSailing]

It was a really bad call........and Goodison was trying to tell him that, but he didn't listen.

[@markrozee]

I can watch AC75's all day.

[@XPSailing]

I just did.......catching up un the last 3 days

[@Pacsuper7]

Thank you for good coverage but one tiny remark though, please dont override when race office speaks.

[@AntiVaganza]

A few comments: - Bananas on Ineos! Totally proves you can do it;-) - Surprise, surprise Spithill once again owned Barker in the prestart (that was a penalty for sure) - What's with Ineos' two boundary errors in the cancelled race (they even made one seconds before the cancellation when they had just made it back into the lead)? - Even though Magic was going pretty well, how would you like to grind flat out and being asked to still look outside of the boat and make great tactical calls. Really doesn't make sense.

[@stevekiberd3474]

Maybe there's a glitch in the software as Luna Rossa PRADA was making the same mistakes with the boundry.

[@AntiVaganza]

@@stevekiberd3474 I almost hope so. The whole idea about Ineos' grinding setup is that Giles Scott only has to concentrate on tactics.

[@jamieclarke7065]

@@AntiVaganza spot on, and Ben/Giles completely trust one another. Also Shirley made a good point that INEOS have 2 flight pilots. The loss of 2 grinders though!

[@AntiVaganza]

@@jamieclarke7065 If they can get through a physically tough race like today with that grinder setup, they should be fine. I mean, they may have days with two full races in these conditions, but I guess they are allowed to change out crew between races? Or just between days?

[@WiseFool]

@@AntiVaganza Allowed to swap between races but there is a crew limit so its not all the grinders swapped but most I think, 3-4 swapped. I saw a British grinder talking about it, the Brits having the forward facing grinding pedestals instead of shared pedestals means they can get more power and efficiency from the grinding, whereas other teams need more men grinding to get the power required. All the non-grinding folks have clearly slimmed down big time to let the grinders pack on muscle too. Atm it looks like the Brits got this design call right but all the teams still look fast and if they get better with decision making then you still never know, it all goes back to zero after this series when the matchracing begins so plenty of time for teams to make big gains.

[@TheSpooky72]

Damn! Deano you’re a mad man! Love it! Exciting racing and everyone is safe 👍🏽

[@MrGentlebutfirm]

But making a poor choice right there..

[@johnharrison2741]

Brilliant entertainment and skill on display. I think that once a race has started they shouldn't cancel it due to wind changes. Fair enough change the course prior to the start, but once the gun has fired sail to the conditions that you face, its the same for both yachts!

[@XPSailing]

If one boat has sailed well and got way in front it's a bit hard on them to then abandon the race

[@edudecnop]

Bit confusing the voices of the commentators and the skippers altogether. Maybe when the commentators speak the sound from the voice of skippers should be lowered to improve the comprehension of the audience.

[@dewibermingham816]

Wrong way round! Let's hear the crews first hand

[@cuthbertmilligen]

We need to know the local time! If we are not watching the race live, then all the talk of "restarting at 16:05" is meaningless as we have no idea of the current local time. Either blend in a clock or say "restarting in 35 minutes" or something.

[@bunnellr54]

Totally agee. Watching in Italy on replay.

[@ramirofalco]

50:51 "16.20 as the bananas go into the water"

[@jamieclarke7065]

Please could you minimise commentary that states the obvious for any viewer, so we can hear the Audio from the boats. Best insight is coming from Shirley and Nathan, especially Shirley (not just course conditions, but observations like INEOS benefitting from 6 trimmers / 2 pilots). Thanks

[@tobyriding3231]

Some people are new here, including me.

[@KivBB]

Some closer racing , great for the sport , game on.. Let's hope the American boat is ok and good to go again..

[@seleaphotography]

Moved away from this beautiful city and country about a month ago due to the end of my visa. Viewing this makes me very very home sick

[@team3383]

Soo many less spactators boats for this race ...?! hmmm. Not the best conditions for a gin and tonic on the sun deck....? Amazing how they can tilt the boats to windward with the foils like sailing on a windsurfer ! The forces involved are tremendous. foiling adds a third dimension (which was just underestimated until now) to fast sailing. Boats can move UP and DOWN now. Spectacular.

[@maximilianehlken725]

Can you continue postig the race statistics after each race, like you did on day one: I really missid this today.

[@exploranator]

For future reference, it is better to have concentric arcs around the waypoints to give a better look at how far any given boat is from any given waypoint at any given time, instead of straight lines.

[@barry5787]

Get in there Ben.

[@petertaylor8922]

You commentators get the nautical terminology correct. The Jib is a Fore sail no larger than the fore triangle. Ahead or Astern, Bow and Stern. NO excuses... this is SAILING.

[@Roaming9to5]

Love watching this!

[@harryadams5651]

What are the advantages ? Of the 2 skinned mainsail. How are battens attached to sail,how can camber of main be altered in mid and upper part of main

[@grahamlongley8298]

Ineos won the last race due to handling & importantly, tactics,ie the way they used the wind. Not just boat speed. I think the Italians have a faster boat through the water, but did not use the wind as well as the UK team, so ended up slower. If Ineos gets to line up against the Kiwis, she is going to have to go faster, because they are every bit as good tactically. Plus they sail the boat impeccably.

[@barry5787]

Except when it falls over.

[@paulsinclair3401]

Racing various Bruce Farr 'tonners' throughout the late 70's, we often found ourselves cursing his love of running backstays and must admit that more than once in the middle of a race during manoeuvres we would hear the anguished cry of "oh sh&%, get that backstay!" Remember once on a yacht (not Farr) at the threequarter ton world championships at La Rochelle it caused one boat to lose its mast overboard. Surprised to see it forgotten at this level of racing though! I daresay we'll soon find out if it was just forgotten in the heat of the manoeuvre or if it jammed? Wish all the best to the AM team in picking up the pieces and putting it all back together.

[@Jabbatic]

Running backstays? I love them... sort of!! Try using them on a really big old boat (35+m) and you'll NEVER forget them even once.

[@paulsinclair3401]

@@Jabbatic 35 metres + with running backstays? 😲 ...... that's got to be one tall mast!

[@Jabbatic]

@@paulsinclair3401 I've sailed 2 such boats, both schooners, one 41m and the other 37m (plus the lengths of their bowsprits). Max mainmast heights were about 40m and 32-34m (including topmasts) above the water, if I remember correctly. Took a large crew on both, with about 20 of us to haul up the mainsail (well over 400kg) on the largest boat. Only 8 of us working the backstays, amongst other duties. Winches? Not when I sailed these boats in the 80s and 90s. Lots of rope, blocks, good timing and running up and down. Great fun!

[@paulsinclair3401]

@@Jabbatic Sounds amazing..... We once had an old 23 mtr Schooner rig without running backstays, and still always found it very crew intensive, so switched up to a lovely ketch, which although bigger, was considerably easier to sail shorthanded.

[@Jabbatic]

@@paulsinclair3401 That sounds a wonderful AND sensible approach - and I've always loved ketches and schooners (gaff-rigged especially) of all sizes. More balanced and beautiful appearance than yawls and sloops? Learning as a young crew member was great fun and I loved the exercise, but it was always exhausting. As I have aged I've managed to fall in love with electric & hydraulic winches... and being the helmsman whenever possible. A MUCH easier life 😊.

[@rogerdickinson920]

Would water be entering the boat from the foil where it goes thru the hull?

[@MrGrooveJack]

Highly likely that join (or the hull around it) cracked when the boat slammed back down....

[@DaveandGinny972]

@@MrGrooveJack it certainly took some energy when it came back in contact with the water...you can see it shuddering.

[@MrGrooveJack]

@@DaveandGinny972 100%

[@hurri7720]

I would say no, but all that space where the grinders are is in the water and all that water remail in the yach when it's again turned upright.

[@Jacob-W-5570]

Dissapointed that they decided had to re-sail that race, wind changes are part of the game to me. but okay if they agreed that on beforehand I've no grounds to complain.

[@AntiVaganza]

It's normally up to the organizers and some windshifts are just too big. Also, if the boats are too spread out or too fast, the organizers don't stand a chance of moving the next mark to a more "fair" position - so you will end up with all the remaining legs, not just one of them, being a reach which is turns it into an almost zero strategy/tactical drag race.

[@bremCZ]

It's a windward - leeward course. If the wind reaches then the race is over.

[@AntiVaganza]

@@bremCZ exactly:)

[@yannickcabon5312]

Generally you are right but in this case the wind shift was too strong and too unpredictable to continue the race. The re-start was the only fair option.

[@Aardwolfs]

Not good seeing the Prada guy chuck his water bottle overboard at 2:26.08, Thought everybody was about keeping the oceans cleaner.....:(

[@mat2941]

He threw it to the following boat so they could catch it.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

You can clearly see that he indicates it to the trailing boat.

[@Aardwolfs]

@@mat2941 Thanks for clearing that up.....:)

[@gav2759]

If we have learned anything from the competition so far, it is make no predictions. We should remember there are no eliminations at the round robin stage. Strictly speaking AM can lose all their races and be on a even footing in the semi-final. No advantage of good performance is carried forward. Both teams start level in the final too, except one has the advantage of having more race practice. I know a three team competition is awkward to resolve, but is hard to imagine a format less equitable than this.

[@acetreeman]

Re capsize, check out that chopper at 2.51.26, down wash ???

[@tamangish]

Go*Britania*Mama Mia! *Ole' Ole'

[@ringatoi]

@10:47 American Magic 1 (ais) back in harbor preparing to lift.

[@krisdecke3322]

Great commentary and analysis

[@ianfranklin2914]

Coverage is amazing, thanks. Is there any way you can overlay the wind direction now and then?- I know they are sailing upwind from the start and downwind to the finish but a bit more detail would make great coverage even better. Cheers.

[@gottfriedfeder8748]

¿ Como saben la direccion del viento ciñiendo a 45 nudos con vientos de 17 nudos ? ¿ Como saben la velocidad del viento en esas circunstancias ? Y esta es la duda que me tiene loco . ¿Como pueden ir dos barcos en rumbos opuestos en 180º ciñiendo los dos ? Desde ya muchas gracias y muy amable .

[@hawkesbaynz4546]

Awesome vessels..

[@monhmonhmonhmonh]

The racing is good!

[@andybird6102]

The Day 3 highlight video (26 min one) is blocked in France

I am not convinced of Dean Barker as a Skipper. He lost the AC in San Francisco with an 8:1 lead, he did not win any of the starts (today 20 seconds late to enter!) and he was responsible for the bad maneuver that lead to the capsize. Not good. I would not bet on American Magic. Ineos and Ben Ainslie on the other hand very strong, what a return after the problems with boat speed during Christmas Cup.

[@swanny8869]

Dean Barker is Helmsman. Terry Hutchinson is the Skipper.

[@mereanaholmes3946]

Thank you Swanny People don't seem to be paying attention these days.

@@swanny8869 still, Dean Barker is the ultimate responsible on the boat. Correct?

[@BeatTheFlash]

I've searched without joy, what does the cow siren indicate, please?

[@barry5787]

Hydraulic pumps operating legs.

[@Silvius.2]

Luna rossa got two helmsmen..why got not every time one look out where the pressure-like a taktishen

[@ringatoi]

@8:59pm..... "Christopher Reive at the viaduct has just spotted members of Team NZ heading back out on their chase boat towards the American Magic crew - with about a dozen pizzas!"

[@enzederkoru3507]

Pleased Team NZ went to assist sinking boat and help Team America with the salvage as they were having difficulty getting her to refloat.

[@ringatoi]

@@enzederkoru3507 Yea agreed. Fierce competitors on the water but at the end of the day they are all sailors. When s*1t hits the fan it all hands in to help.

[@exploranator]

Curious why American magic didn't just turn directly downwind. Even if your leeward runner didn't allow your sail to luff, turning downwind would have eliminated any threat of capsizing while still allowing the wind to push the boat further toward the finish line. What would be the worst? The wind pushing you from the stern would try to stuff your bow? The bow would not be a likely to stuff as the boat would be to capsize.

[@yanndesdevises1546]

Dean Barker is good for the sport...how many times has he choked just as he’s about to win???

[@bremCZ]

Twice?

[@adrianobonaldo8941]

Let say that Barker is very unluky now He is a great champion but now they are on a bad position to get out. Hope for next race

[@neutronalchemist3241]

@@adrianobonaldo8941 Hope there will be one. Last time I saw American Magic, it had a pretty big hole in the hull (not to say of many stress fractures).

[@lifelipsticklove-katherine6093]

Great weekend of racing 😍

[@iphonepilot]

Please sort out the sound! Still you have commentary and boat comms at the same volume. Use the slidey thing on the mixing desk... Awesome otherwise.

[@BawlzOfuzz]

Awesomeness ❤️

[@macattackmicmac]

I wonder if the capsize was partially caused by cultural differences. As a kiwi when I hear someone saying 'it's going to be hard', that's not a phrase I take as a warning that catastrophe is about to occur. It could also just be down to the fact that the crew might not be functioning properly as a unit, and so overruling the call might not be something they feel they can do.

[@flx910w]

these beasts are real underwater planes

[@steveallan837]

comentators kiss of death , if I ever seen it !

[@AntiVaganza]

Eh, what did they say that could amount to a "commentator's curse"?

[@Jacob-W-5570]

What @America's Cup why did you end the stream there? It's a youtube show you can make it as long as you want, there is no tv schedule to keep and a next program to show. Why would you end it there, with a boat sinking?!

[@andrewdillon7837]

wow, yesterday its all,,,no wind boring ,,,now yeeehaaa ,,we in front ..BUT !!!

[@ianjudd2909]

I do feel for the Americans it was a very risky move but actually if the runner had been released and they had been able to ease the main more they just might have got anyway with it and won... tough but you do have to play the risks and they didn’t need to do it and the wind had come 30 secs before so they knew it was going to be risky and you could hear the question onboard being asked well before...

[@markknights5109]

That’s wot I’m talking about Ben . Keep her up

[@4gnetmail378]

Weather became so rough, even the course lines on the race track are getting blown around.

[@jupitorious7925]

Exciting love it

[@utente9903]

"Un piccolo errore e cambia l'esito della gara"..... 18 seconds behind

[@aphrodite3216]

Why the heck did they end the broadcast... I find sailing is the only sport where this happens... very frustrating... we dont even know if they made it back to harbour

[@thomasautos36]

True

[@ringatoi]

Not yet. Long road home. Still floating currently and lots of airbags and pumps. It'll take hours to get her in if they can. She was higher in the water but they were having difficulty with the tow.

[@zenawalmsley2400]

They made it back 11pm NZ time

[@edwardwatson6606]

Ain’t over till it’s over bro

[@pharaoh9089]

I am Prada, this is my cup

[@twitertaker]

I understand nothing about these boats, the strategies, why they driving left and right all the time... but this still looks cool.

[@exploranator]

Searching for the part of the course with the heaviest wind.

[@grousetheghoul2754]

The Americans are starting to get away with crap other people get penalised for . This isn't the first race they've done it with.

[@boatlife234]

Amazing! 👏👏

[@sailawayteam]

Commentators often wonder why the leader doesn't cover their lead like in match race. But in real match race both boats are identical and so is their potential max speed, whereas here it is not the case, and if the gap gets too large you only want to concentrate on maximizing your own speed.

[@123prova]

if you are leading it would make sense to mark the opponent to avoid he gets better wind conditions on the other side of the race track. The potential of the 2 boats seems very similar in terms of speed

[@sailawayteam]

@@123prova True, the speed differences are small and getting the shifts correctly seemed to matter most.

[@barry5787]

Gorra love that clock.

[@damirpavicic3032]

Luna Rossa should definitely change tactician, as this one has no enough skills to read the wind on the race course.

[@123prova]

ita - uk 10:34 (abandoned) ita - uk 01:30:00 ita - us 2:52:00

[@andrew8992]

Is there any way to watch this without having to listen to this annoying commentary when we could be listening to the audio feed from the boats which would be much more interesting?

[@ptewilks2634]

Hi great show...........boat speed please on the mast top all the time. also time to start on screen some of us are around the world, vmg etc data ok thank you

[@roythompson6137]

Vmg would be better

[@Silvius.2]

Why they not leave both arms in the water? Lot more stabel

[@barry5787]

Why don't they put a crate of beer over the side to keep it cool.

[@hurri7720]

I think the should add the possibility to add a small 2 hp engine to get rid of the grinding flesh for testing and training and why not for ever.

[@dewibermingham816]

Aren't you describing a motor boat! Why not add a propeller 🙂

[@hurri7720]

@@dewibermingham816 , I know you are joking but seriously needing eight gorillas, and even they have to be replaced, just to get enough power to operate those yacht is rather funny and in my opinion stupid. A small engine weighting hardly nothing could replace all that flesh, or why not some batteries charge before the race and with some solar cells on the yacht. It could add to the possibility of more contenders to the AC as it would make it cheaper too, and less idiotic to look at too. PS. You might not know how incredible little power a human can produce. PPS. Less crew is needed to sail around the world in the Volvo race than to have a 30 min stint on these yachts.

[@andydunn5673]

What nationality is the umpire asks about a restart ?

[@Nico-pb9lq]

Plus de manœuvres, envois de spi ect, ils tournent juste en rond... Ça va vite mais c'est pas passionnant..

[@stefanocalonaci5540]

Concordo con te

[@mereanaholmes3946]

A lot of blame on Dean but let's face it. Hutchinson needs to take some responsibility as he is the skipper of the boat is he not? Any decision that gets made would've gone through him. This was as much as the skippers fault as it was his helmsmans.

[@bremCZ]

It's the mainsail trimmers fault.

[@titaoit]

So solo che Luna Rossa sta facendo pietà

[@TheCoolhead27]

Just when it was getting interesting they abandon!!!

[@JimmyRyanNZ]

Anyone know the name of the music at 2:58:10

[@stormtrooper0146]

Is this river by newwa

[@JimmyRyanNZ]

@@stormtrooper0146 Its close, and could be part of the music, but its not the full piece. Is there a few different versions?

[@stormtrooper0146]

Somethings been mixed over it, that’s a NZ guy speaking a haka

[@bremCZ]

Its a composition made for the broadcast.

[@JimmyRyanNZ]

@@bremCZ i figured.... but do you know the name of it, or is there a full version online somewhere that can be listened to?

[@c0ntag10n]

2:46:05 capsize

[@alessandrobargellini6445]

Luna Rossa is fantastic 🇮🇹

[@sirfer6969]

I'll say that these are 2 good looking boats, much better than that whale Team USA put forward.

[@nittarab]

2:46:02 Italy goes in Steven Bradbury mode!!

[@Admm744]

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI

[@bobpreston1347]

With the foils being so critical, why are the teams not allowed to change them for different wind conditions. AC75's sat on their bellies in a race is stupid.

[@flaviusfilms]

To anyone who needs to hear this: You are beautiful and life is beautiful. Have a great day!

[@mareksbesprozvannijs3463]

U turns

[@yanndesdevises1546]

Then again the mainsail trimmer is ...Paul Goodison: was he in charge of the back stays???

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

more a design issue... couldnt slack it off enough.