Want to watch the full conversation with Pratik Gandhi & Jaideep Ahlawat? Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWq2Zpdooadlla8
@ankitajain88363 жыл бұрын
How difficult it is to understand that the debate is “how to make the process more democratic” not about “if it is right or wrong for parents to help out their kids”. Even though Doctor’s kid might be inclined to become a Doctor, there inclination is not enough they would have to go through an examination, is it same for actors I doubt it.
@Balakrishna-jj1fp3 жыл бұрын
But doctors kids have more support from their parents in terms of better schooling, facilities, training, healthy food and subject knowledge. So they have more chances of passing the entrance exam.. I know many doctors kids who failed in the main entrance exam and still managed to become doctors by paying lakhs of rupees to buy a doctor seat under management quota. (in private medical colleges)
@javijavi333 жыл бұрын
@@Balakrishna-jj1fp Anybody can buy a seat in private colleges via management quota, you don't need to be a doctor.
@Balakrishna-jj1fp3 жыл бұрын
@@javijavi33 Exactly.. Anybody with money can make a movie and release it.. They dont need to be actors kids..End of the day they will survive if they have talent to bring audience to theatres. Anyways with OTT things have changed completely.
@VYings3 жыл бұрын
@@Balakrishna-jj1fp although making a movie is far more expensive and quite risky.
@subhranilsinha84123 жыл бұрын
@@VYings Management quota doesn't come under 50lakhs. And there are films that have been made within 1 lakh and gained popularity. (Local Kung Fu, an Assamese film)
@ankitadhiman92853 жыл бұрын
There's a BIG difference between INHERITING a film because of your parent and writing the exam, qualifying and proving yourself based on merit. You CANNOT just compare the two. They have it easier. Noone needs to be bitter about this. But the truth remains the same.
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
True!
@SuhasNaikOfficial3 жыл бұрын
One can always find Funding, Script - and cast themselves in the film. Similar to how entrepreneurs in start-up world work on their business idea and find investors. Right?
@taraacharya15103 жыл бұрын
Being able to take an exam and doing well is not solely merit. Having access to quality education, exposure, coaching, access to study space is also a product of privilege. Talent and merit don't exist outside social barriers either.
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
@@taraacharya1510 Ya whatever may be the case. But there is still a thing called EXAM where everyone is seen as equal. But not in the case of Bollywood. There is no fair ground.
@taraacharya15103 жыл бұрын
@@mahimmurulya5802 arey the whole point is everyone is not equal in an exam. Someone showing up to an exam with no electricity or someone who went to an awful school may be intelligent but lacks the wherewithal. So yeah you missed my point completely. Everyone is NOT equal in an exam hall and intelligence is not the sole deciding factor.
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
I actually feel sorry for insiders who bag filmfare and screen awards for the loads of crap senseless films while talents like Radhika Apte, Rasika Dugal, Kangana Ranaut, and so many others are not even recognized for their phenomenal acting skills.
@javijavi333 жыл бұрын
'A Doctor's son becomes doctor', is the most tone-deaf excuse to defend nepotism. To become a doctor, one goes through an all India level competition, 5-years of studies and Mandatory 1-Year Rural Internship, not like starkids getting launched in films.
@simrandatta98613 жыл бұрын
Yeah neet is very tough
@ananyaa66643 жыл бұрын
I never understood the comparison! It is so stupid!
@Mindlessnig3a3 жыл бұрын
I know u never went to medical college...it hurts in medical college too when rich dads pay lakhs to get admission in good college and u are not despite having more marks in neet
@rrrrrraaaj3 жыл бұрын
We only want deserving actors in the industry... There's noting about outsider and insider... Insiders must also give auditions and struggle atlest little👈
@vijayashankar91293 жыл бұрын
Both are exceptional actors who excelled in their own web Series🔥
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for all insider starkids who literally are offered films on a platter while far more talented actors struggle to even get a minor role.
@SuhasNaikOfficial3 жыл бұрын
😂❤️
@rkofficial43153 жыл бұрын
Bhai agar itna simple toh arjun Kapoor shahrukh Khan ban jata 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
@@rkofficial4315 waise bhai filme toh ananya sara varun ko aise hi milti hain, arjun kapoor ki jhaadoo pocha lagaane ki hi aukaat nahi hain, acting toh door ki baat hain. Aur Arjun kapoor ko SRK banne ke liye 100 janm lene padenge, shayad tab bhi na hoga isse. Expressionless dog that Arjun Kapoor is.
@javijavi333 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment, only talented & confident outsiders can talk about insiders like this. No dear, this has nothing to do with talent and confidence, he just needs more work and knows praising insiders can make things easier for him.
@neilrussell67143 жыл бұрын
That’s also true. I often think- how the hell did Shah Rukh Khan or Akshay Kumar combat this stigma against outsiders and this disgusting elitist attitude of treating them like shit? They each got close with the insiders and charmed their way in. SRK with the YRF and Dharma camp and Akshay with the Nadiadwala group. It’s just a part of the game to stay afloat
@neilrussell67143 жыл бұрын
Hoping Pratik wins a Filmfare soon. Kamaal ka actor. One of the best of the generation!
@joyal8763 жыл бұрын
All awards are fixed
@lakshimiakshithavoloju20063 жыл бұрын
Ghanta film fare..
@rajgopalkumasr38623 жыл бұрын
@@joyal876 is that why pratik won awards already
@haripriyavasireddy77283 жыл бұрын
Movie/Show Makers - please make cast these 2 as much as possible. They are so incredibly good. It’s a treat to watch
@soummanidutta18283 жыл бұрын
How can you compare a doctor's profession with that of acting? I expected a more logical reasoning from such intelligent and amazing actors. You need to pass the entrance exam and work hard for a minimum of five years just to get an MBBS degree. And then there are other degrees as well. And here the starkids don't even have to audition for their first film. They get huge amounts of money without even having to audition. And they keep getting movies irrespective of their how good or bad they act. Example- Sara Ali Khan, Bobby Deol, Abhishek Bachchan, Tiger Shroff, Aditya Kapoor, Shraddha Kapoor etc etc
@subhranilsinha84123 жыл бұрын
They didn't compare. They just said that in both cases you inherit the interests to be in the particular field.
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
You don't bite the hands that feed
@soummanidutta18283 жыл бұрын
@@subhranilsinha8412 Jaideep did say that the same thing goes on in every profession, going on to give examples of doctors, army etc. So that is where I am disagreeing. Inheriting the interest is fine but the advantages are hugely different and disproportionate.
@ashchilly3 жыл бұрын
@@soummanidutta1828 By your photo, we can understand that you're quiet old. So, you must be having older kids. Why don't you send them to the border and fight over nepotism against the kids of army officers? Or to the Ambanis, saying that your kid should get the chance to rule their empire? Why are you just targeting one industry?
@neilrussell67143 жыл бұрын
Both are exceptional actors but what do majority of audiences only care to see- Ranbir/Ranveer, Alia/Deepika. Unlike “outsiders” like Ranveer singh, Pratik Gandhi toiled for 15 years and he only just got a web series now! What a brilliant talent and actor. Dharma and YRF better knock at his door soon. They need desperate hits and a capable actor to do it. Let’s make Pratik a superstar. Jaideep is already one in all of our hearts
@javijavi333 жыл бұрын
John Boyega, a very talented British black actor, called out Lucas Films & J. J. Abrams for how they treated Black & Asian actors in Star Wars, that's called confidence. Because Boyega knows he has much to lose after taking such a stand. Not like this guy sucking up to insiders to get more work & make things easier for himself.
@ananyaa66643 жыл бұрын
Well, only few people such as Alia Bhatt were subjected to unfair, useless criticism by propaganda machine. While I won't ever support bullying and abusing, I genuinely think that some the the criticisms have actually done good to the industry. In fact I believe an insider who really loves the craft and wants to improve their skill would not be offended by some of the criticisms. People like Ishaan Khattar, and Shahid Kapoor who have proved their love and real dedication for the craft through their performance have to be appreciated. I personally feel Jahnvi Kapoor is going to improve. Its shouldn't be about hating actors just because they are insiders. However, the sheer arrogance and illiteracy shown by few "privileged" celebrities who go on to equate their struggles with those of "outsiders" while getting film after film in spite of not so great (sometimes very bad) acting is just not acceptable.
@adwaitab.36223 жыл бұрын
Well said. Criticizing someone is different whereas indulging in mindless bullying is different.
@shivanshshukla55243 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agreed brother ....Very well said
@francesha30543 жыл бұрын
I am actually feeling sorry for him. Talent without a spine, is more depressing. I loved Nawaz called out another industry-pleasing talented outsider. They say these things to make things easier for themselves, not like they care for outsider or insider topic.
@aniketlad17363 жыл бұрын
Wow both of them are amazing and it's amazing to watch them both together.
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
I too feel sorry for insiders who weep and cry about their "struggle" in Bollywood while manipulatively sidelining a supremely talented Sushant Singh Rajput and eventually forcing him to die / killing him.
@user-fk8md4jn3i3 жыл бұрын
For u guys only SSR was an outsider
@raghavchohda72903 жыл бұрын
Bas karo yaar ab SSr
@parthverma96803 жыл бұрын
@@raghavchohda7290 Bhai Uske baap pe kya beetri hogi ye Soch itna kuch achieve krke bhi uske sath ye sab hua .. tere liye bolna aasan hai bas kro ssr apne aap pe feel krke ye situation or tumare liye koi bole bas Karo yar usko ab
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
@@parthverma9680 well said Parth Verma, imagine being a middle class boy from Bihar with big dreams working hard to make it big in Bollywood, and everyone plots and plans to drown your career and murder you eventually. How sad. "Bas karo ab SSR" shows how selfish people are and how easily one forgets the injustice Sushant had to go through...
@raghavchohda72903 жыл бұрын
@@arnabsaha5270 yeah well said ver very well said
@SuhasNaikOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Film Industry's best comparison is to Politics + Business. Business : If you have great idea (script) and find funding (producer/studio/OTT), you can create opportunities. Politics : If you are popular, you have more chance of getting a party ticket and winning the elections.
@shashidhar74763 жыл бұрын
RGV told the same thing during the Sushant case.
@sameergheewala24433 жыл бұрын
spoken as true professionals , hard work will get you known, if my family has privileges and yours doesn't you work hard and make sure you create the privilege for your next generation.
@keshavbhanu57883 жыл бұрын
Why was this deleted?
@rachnatripathi34293 жыл бұрын
Kuch bhi bole ja rhe h??🙄 U mean ek IAS ka bachcha bina exam, interview crack kiye hi IAS bn jata h kya? Ya ek army personnel k bachche ko exam, ssb clear nhi krna pdta kya? Kya sbhi army personnel k bachche jo defence me jana chahte h unko uniform mil hi jati h... Mtlb.. kuch bhi bologe??? In bollywood, many star kids getting work in industry without any qualification or talent whereas a child of IAS will have to clear the exam, interview and undergo training to become an IAS. Dreaming about following father's job and clearing the exam to get that job are two entirely different things.
@shashidhar74763 жыл бұрын
Bro, nepotism is a part of our society any parent will do whatever they can to help their children, and in films if one has to produce a film to benefit their child he will do that, or if one has to request a producer to make a film with his child he will do that. If one is preparing for IAS, wealthy parents will join his child in the best institute by paying lakhs of rupees, because that's the best they can do in this case. If one wants to join his child in a very good university he will even pay lakhs of rupees for management quota to get him joined there. This is how it works here bro.
@shashankethane3 жыл бұрын
Stop comparing Star kids and doctors or engineers
@poojarai61833 жыл бұрын
Problem is not with parents doing something for their kids . Problem is when an outsider is considered or given an opportunity and then opportunity is snatched away because someone you know wants that opportunity for their kid. The role may be better suited for outsider but they wont be cast just because an insider has expressed interest.
@subhranilsinha84123 жыл бұрын
Many insiders have lost roles to other actors as well. Shraddha Kapoor lost her role to another actress (which I don't remember who it was) in Street Dancer 3. However due to some date issues, the role came back to her. So it's not just an insider outsider thing.
@poojarai61833 жыл бұрын
@@subhranilsinha8412 Chances of Shraddha getting another opportunity is high. We cannot say the same for Outsiders. What happened to Shraddha is unfortunate but she has a good support system to back it up. An outsider may be best suited for a role and if they lose it because there was pressure to cast an insider, the struggle to back it up is more.
@shashidhar74763 жыл бұрын
What is wrong if somebody recommends his/her child to a producer, any person will try to help his children first and then think about others.
@poojarai61833 жыл бұрын
@@shashidhar7476 The problem is when someone else is cast for that role and then removed just because your child needs that spot. Why would you take away that person's effort and give it because you know that person? It's like a college seat -one comes from merit and another because of influence, if the principal prefers influence, it's unfair to that person who has studied hard and reached there. Also, Should the producer not think about the movie becoming successful because of a good actor, earning the goodwill of people for giving an opportunity to someone, not from the industry, or should the producer think about obliging to a request?
@shashidhar74763 жыл бұрын
@@poojarai6183 if I have a company and one of my friend is looking for a job and he is capable of doing the job as well. Will I just give him the job or Will I think that oh! there are so many people applying for the same job am I doing injustice to them. It's not my job to think about everyone right, so instead of giving the job to some unknown person I will give it to a friend of mine who is very much capable of doing the job, and also interested in doing the job. You can call it nepotism, favouritism or anything but it happens everywhere in the society not just in film industry. In colleges there is something called as management quota where you can buy a seat legally without having proper score in entrance exam, so it is not always about merit sometimes money also plays a role, and in my previous example contacts played a role.
@subhranilsinha84123 жыл бұрын
I hope Kangana sees this
@nadafshoaib3 жыл бұрын
Only secure, talented & confident people can talk like that about insiders ❤️❤️ I hope this video reaches to himachal pardesh 🤪
@0501383 жыл бұрын
😂🤪
@nadafshoaib3 жыл бұрын
@@Sahil-wx4ct are u OK. Manoj n Shorey hai is interview mein ?
@javijavi333 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with talent and confidence, he just needs more work and knows praising insiders can make things easier for him.
@nadafshoaib3 жыл бұрын
@@javijavi33 aap har cheez me negativity hi dhundoge k toh kya kar sakte hain. U r so ardent about it then stop providing financial support to ur children whenever they turn 18. If u support him/her after 18 u r part of nepotism.
@subhranilsinha84123 жыл бұрын
@@Sahil-wx4ct Ranveer Shorey is an insider bro.
@Joshibabunkpua3 жыл бұрын
Hariram ka bate Bhut motivation tha mere liya Esh bar to SBI PO K LIYA JAN LAGA DUNGA Thank you #flimcompanion
@aafreenkarim3 жыл бұрын
Uh !!! Ok I am trying to pitch a film and I don’t have even an email address at Netflix to pitch. I pinged Anupama Chopra to pitch my film to their film banner . No reply. Is this the same lack of response that insiders feel . No . Obviously no. Now I am in IT and if I want a job I go to career section and apply for a job or upload my resume. Tell me where this clear process exists in the film industry. I am surprised these two are talking about something else altogether .
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
Inko kaam bhi toh Karan Johar Adi Chopra gang Salmon Bhai hi denge na? How can they speak against insiders?
@user-hh7ii6rk1i3 жыл бұрын
this interview is very motivating for all the young people interested in acting
@SaurabhAher93 жыл бұрын
Thankyou 💚✨🙏
@Vipulvashi3 жыл бұрын
Loving this
@sunshinehead10723 жыл бұрын
Bollywood desperately trying to normalize nepotism.
@noorzarur3 жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@Pandathinks3 жыл бұрын
Jaideep speaks so well!
@broadcastwithatg51953 жыл бұрын
Lekin audition or selection to quality per hi hoga ya sir name per
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
These two have no idea how OTT platforms have created a level playing field for outsiders. Otherwise, films like Scam 1992 and Patal lok would've never been made, or made terribly with a shitty actor from Khan or Ka poor family. Sadly, changing times and technology have benefitted them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be here today.
@lakshimiakshithavoloju20063 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse u r ryt mahim.yes the ott platform have more opportunities for outsiders..but I feel ki theatre me film release hona ek alag feeling hi... That every actor and actress desires
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
@@lakshimiakshithavoloju2006 I honestly think nobody wants that anymore. Ott has some great money.
@lakshimiakshithavoloju20063 жыл бұрын
@@mahimmurulya5802 no mahim.money is the common factor... Big screen ka feeling alag hey na
@mahimmurulya58023 жыл бұрын
@@lakshimiakshithavoloju2006 But fame and money dono mein same hai na. At the end of the day, business will move in the direction of target audience. Right now majority of them are OTT. So this is the case.
@lakshimiakshithavoloju20063 жыл бұрын
Hmm..
@arnabsaha52703 жыл бұрын
I too feel sorry for insiders Ananya Pandey, Sonam Kapoot, Sara Ali Khan, Athiya Shetty, Arjun Kapoor, Tiger Shroff. They've worked so hard on their disgusting and pathetic third class acting skills it makes me wanna puke everytime I watch them act on screen.
@saaakshhh3 жыл бұрын
Jaideep 🙌
@andyhandy78413 жыл бұрын
bollywood didn't give them lead rolew because they've not hero looking.. web series did...
@immayatt3 жыл бұрын
where is the diljeet bit
@swetlanadutta37583 жыл бұрын
Oh god! Pratik is jus so funny! Made my day:)))
@ajisonnair3 жыл бұрын
Why am I the only one watching this
@tashanmann053 жыл бұрын
Nice idea....pair up Barun Sobti with Divyendu Sharma.
@jhanvipatel25223 жыл бұрын
Actor ka bacha actor bane usame galt nahi he. But without any talent usko badava dena galat baat he