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@handsoaphandsoap3 жыл бұрын
She probably doesn’t make it too far since the old school players were very quickly targetted but I can see her playing a similar game to Yul and placing around there, maybe even a bit further. Probably along with Rob, maybe get burned by that as he was heavily targetted from day 1. It’s hard to say how she’d do on an advantage-heavy new school season like WaW since Marquesas was so long ago, it’s a completely different beast.
@tylerhaggerty4805 Жыл бұрын
Among the better of the old schoolers I think. She has a low key game that could've gelled with the new schoolers without being threatening.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
It is crazy to me how she beat Neleh with a jury full of Neleh's peers and did it by flip flopping between alliances. She played a heck of a strategic game.
@theninjagamer14 жыл бұрын
yeah she played an impressive game for s4
@kevinreadd4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos. But the bottom line is find anyway possible to get to the end an have the respect to get the votes. It’s not what moves or control you had in the game. It’s about making the other castaways feel that when they go to sleep at night they are okay with saying _______ beat me at survivor. It’s never about you it’s about the people around you
@acf59804 жыл бұрын
Vecepia was the original Sandra (anybody but me), Danni (kissing ass to get favor of the ruling majority-Rotu) and the originator of the voting block strategy when during F5 that although Sean and her looked aligned they were just voting together because it moves them further into the game!!! The most strategic thing she did is what Kathy said her strategy about never initiating and saying yes to all alliances but weaseling her way in if she can which is standard gameplay now because old school survivor especially during season 1-4 were still trapped between having “integrity” and just playing cutthroat so I would say also one of the first “new school” thinking that anything goes in the game! She needs more credit and I think they should have her back during the WaW reunion with all the other winners and play in Old vs New School season!
@easy_nator_gamer84984 жыл бұрын
This was a super weak season toward the end of it. Vee was a nice and charming person but she was never seen as a threat and also had a big unfair advantage(notebook) in the only immunity she really needed to win. I wouldn't even rank her in the top 30 tbh and I wanted her to win over Nelah.
@acf59804 жыл бұрын
Easy_Nator_Gamer lol how is it an advantage when everyone had the opportunity to get to know everyone and memorize all them facts she just was smart enough to bring something she can write on and everyone could have done that...that’s not luck, that’s preparation! She started from the bottom, she was not a typical phenotype of the survivor winner ( more introverted and quiet) at that point and capitalized on her strengths, she will always be notable and paved the way for the UTR underdogs to win
@frida.78313 жыл бұрын
I'm from Chile and by the time this season aired in my country I was probably 9 years old. There was almost no black people here yet I saw myself rooting for Vecepia from the get go because I loved the human way she interacted with people. And now I realize she was actually the first person of color that had any shot to win the show. Thanks to her impressive social game, Vecepia made it 5 tribal councils longer than Gervase, from Borneo, the longer lasting black person until Marquesas and, even better, she won! She became the first black woman to win survivor and, 36 seasons later, she's still the only black woman to ever win survivor. One of the only three women of color to win but the only one who hasn't at least participated of 4 seasons of CBS reality shows. She was excelent representation and open many minds at her time, including mine. She's an underrated icon. I want her back!
@thormowantssomeАй бұрын
Omggg, wait, this is the first time ever I had found a fellow chilean fan
@tokyotourist4 жыл бұрын
Vecepia's reaction to winning is the BEST one out of all 38 winners
@handsoaphandsoap3 жыл бұрын
facts
@virialcocer5 ай бұрын
46 now
@vojtav66364 жыл бұрын
I'd say that this is the first underrated winner we had. When I first saw this season I was thinking Neleh should have won just thanks to the flip but Vecepia played great under the radar game and it's sad that she has not returned yet.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Vecepia beat Neleh with a jury consisting of Neleh's peers says a lot.
@camerontrout89594 жыл бұрын
V really was such a game changed
@vojtav66364 жыл бұрын
@@camerontrout8959 You are totally right. Rewatching these videos reminds me that even in early season there were some strategic forces.
@brokenpikachu94914 жыл бұрын
Once Upon An Island well Neleh’s peers were bitter towards her
@andrecanton75912 жыл бұрын
Production doesn’t want her back
@camerontrout89594 жыл бұрын
V is one of my fave winners ever because she really helped change the game. She was the first player to not be loyal to a fault and serve herself and her chances of winning. I don’t think people understand how big this mindset change affected the game. She walked so people like Sandra could run later on, who would have been persecuted for being flip floppy had it not been for her starting the trend of thinking individually.
@eizyaws4 жыл бұрын
Sandra was never flip floppy person at all. She's the usual loyal ol skool player accept if you come after her then she will come after you and as long as it isn't her
@aka_izzy4 жыл бұрын
Very well said. I had similar thoughts, but you put it across simply. Sandra and V are my favorites of all time, but V set the stage for her and others. PLAY THE GAME.
@shionmninion84884 жыл бұрын
@@eizyaws I agree but inside of the first season Sandra played she was not loyal at all. - Lied to Johnny fair play and burton for a final 3 - Was planning to get out Rupert - Agreed to vote out either girl when need be She is an amazing player but if V wasn't there from season 1 people would find her win bad compared to how V changed.
@kagomefan1014 жыл бұрын
Vee is so underrated. She proved that flipping on your allies in the right situation can prove vital to getting to the end.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@stannonbeador4 жыл бұрын
I started watching Survivor from Season 1 about 4 years ago and this was the first great season in my opinion. Vecepia was an awesome winner and I specifically remember her pretending not to know information about other people when they studied for that F4 immunity. Much like Richard Hatch, despite having little precedent in early Survivor, she had her eye on winning from Day 1. Neleh was a nice girl but she didn't even think about the game until the Final 9. I wish she had been back for S40.
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
This was the first season where some of the people acted like they had actually seen the show before.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernSkeptic Except Gabe. He acted like he had never seen any of the seasons lol
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
Jeff Dahl me too! 😭
@bc51634 жыл бұрын
V should have been on Winners At War. Not only because she deserved it but also to balance out the old school vs new school divide more. Actually, I'm surprised CBS didn't cast her to give Boston Rob another previous connection to benefit him
@AGJ1172 жыл бұрын
I like how Vecepia starts off seeming pretty genuine but gets more and more scheemy as the season goes on.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@bapbap41264 жыл бұрын
how come I've never heard anyone speak about what Paschal just said??? He's talking with Kathy about Vee and about deceitfulness and he says at 24:12 "It's cultural, it runs deep" Kathy says what and he repeats himself
@AlexAnteroLammikko Жыл бұрын
Older season, common belief in those times. Watch a lot of the older seasons and there is a lot of casual homophobia, sexism, racism, etc. Its pretty wild how much media depiction of the stuff has changed in a relatively short period of time. How much these views have changed in the real world iteself is open to debate, but the media world as a whole has certainly adjusted to new standards.
@aka_izzy4 жыл бұрын
Vecepia - the reason I became a Survivor fan. Sandra - the reason I stayed a Survivor fan.
@Bizzybanks244 жыл бұрын
Rob’s a villain though, so when a villain says something bad about the player, it’s a heroic trait
@jamingrythm5844 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. A villain can say something bad about another villain. Like Courtney with John R
@Bizzybanks244 жыл бұрын
Jaming Rhythm honestly wouldn’t really call Courtney a villain. But besides that, we’re just talking about perception here. So if Rob, the bad guy, says he doesn’t like V for any reason, people are going to side with V. In your Courtney example, John R was a bigger villain than Courtney, so if Courtney said something about John R, the audience is going to side with Courtney.
@jamingrythm5844 жыл бұрын
@@Bizzybanks24 I guess your right, Courtney was more of an anti-hero. Okay now I get what you're saying with the above comment
@charliemacdonald35134 жыл бұрын
This channel is going to go down as the GOAT of Survivor yt content. Keep taking your time with these the pace they’re at is great and they’re so polished and fun to sit thru 🤙
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you Charlie Macdonald! I hope to be on RHAP and Survivor NSFW one day so I am fully integrated into the Survivor community :)
@Ryan123344 жыл бұрын
Vecepia is one of my favorite winners. I feel like she was very underrated mainly because of the edit she got. Also her reaction to winning is my favorite reaction in all of survivor.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Vecepia was most certainly under edited, but the moments we got from her were gold.
@Tomthestarhartnell4 жыл бұрын
V played an amazing game, she needed to lay low and let the fools bury themselves, she won her way into everyones graces, and fully deserved her win, seen how big of a threat kat was and jumped on it I wish she had came back Thanks for another great video!
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. She made three flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@bluesky538411 ай бұрын
Vecepia was the only person I ever predicted would win and I was only 11 when it aired. I remember having a local newspaper that had all of the pictures and names of the contestants. I pointed her out as the winner and then each week I highlighted the photo of the person voted out. Survivor was so big back in these days!
@aka_izzy4 жыл бұрын
Vecepia will always be one of my favorite winners. I was rooting for her the whole time. Her reaction to winning is the best! And it was the first time I saw a Christian not afraid to represent Christ on TV like that. That was very impactful for me watching in 2002 as a young person of faith.
@zaksaturday1693 Жыл бұрын
Bro it was 2002, you could have a dartboard of every person on television and you'd have a harder time missing than hitting a christian
@gc46974 жыл бұрын
I never realized how great Vs game was. The first person to win by playing from the bottom and flipping. Truly a game changer. Underrated.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@ayalenglander96474 жыл бұрын
Still salty that they'd rather bring back Amber with Rob than Vecepia who would've 100% said yes
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
Steph Englander omg right!!!! And the way amber played was even worse “I’m just here for rob I can’t win” then why come on in the first fucking place I wanted V on so bad 😭
@504ever43 жыл бұрын
How do you know that she would have said yes?
@ayalenglander96473 жыл бұрын
@@504ever4 she said so
@markjackson64313 жыл бұрын
in fairness all All Star winners should be included. even though i love Denise and Sophie, i’d cur one of them for V.
@MrAgentTurner3 жыл бұрын
Fr. We did not need to see Amber again. Amber shouldn't have even been on the season she won 🙄
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
Sean was my dude in the season. He kept me laughing,
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
He was hilarious! I guarantee there is one video all about Sean before I am done with the Marquesas videos ;)
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland I always wished he would play again but never did.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernSkeptic He was never asked back according to his interview on RHAP.
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland it seems seasons 4 and 5 didn't have very many returnees. And season 4 was excellent, imo.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernSkeptic I just finished watching Thailand and I understand why it doesn't have many retrunees.
@HorrorGeek92 жыл бұрын
Vecepia is an underrated winner and I loved her relationship with Sean. Vee was one of the first big strategist in show's history and showed us that flipping at the right time can win you the game. I would love to see her play again.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Vecepia Towery? How would you rank the first 4 winners after seeing each of their stories?
@SouthernSkeptic4 жыл бұрын
1. Hatch 2. Tina 3. Vespia and Ethan tie for 3rd.
@miso_v14 жыл бұрын
1. Rich 2. Ethan 3.Tina 4. Vecepia
@theninjagamer14 жыл бұрын
i think 1. Ethan 2.Hatch 3. Vecepia 4. Tina
@marywood83964 жыл бұрын
1. Hatch 2. Tina and Vecepia 3. Ethan
@stannonbeador4 жыл бұрын
1. Hatch 2. Vecepia 3. Tina 4. Ethan
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
She’s the most underrated winner and it really pisses me off!
@schorlechua58184 жыл бұрын
why-
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
schorle chua cause she’s an og yet she ain’t get her respect 😤
@schorlechua58184 жыл бұрын
@@ey5005 okay, i mean, that's your opinion
@Murmurrr4 жыл бұрын
@@schorlechua5818 then give a counter opinion nerd
@freddybarton85444 жыл бұрын
these videos are the best, please never stop
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
I don't plan on stopping!
@freddybarton85444 жыл бұрын
Once Upon An Island thanks man! Could you do Brian from Thailand next?
@Paul-zw7or4 жыл бұрын
Vecepia is a true underrated and great winner! Without her flipping in risky situations, the game today would be totally different.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@xakdish41694 жыл бұрын
She played under the radar but she did it in a good strategic way.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@spencerclark47263 жыл бұрын
The fact Vecepia was scrapped from All Stars (in favor of who? Jenna Lewis? Alicia? Amber?) is so embarrassing. She's never been asked back since, ever. A real disgrace. Neleh and Sean also both definitely should've gotten another chance eventually too. :(
@hollowmale2 жыл бұрын
The non-winners in All-Stars were gonna vote out past winners, anyways, amid their campaign against them. Vecepia would've been voted out way early in All-Stars, honestly, like AO winner Tina Wesson became the first booted out.
@spencerclark47262 жыл бұрын
@@hollowmale Doesn't matter, she should've played the season. Actually I think almost all of All Stars problems could've been fixed if they had a tribe of winners (Hatch, Tina, Ethan, V, Brian, Jenna M or Sandra) and two non-winner tribes.
@MrSnape774 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for that purple rock video. That draw was very interesting and extremely important in the history of Survivor, as it influenced strategy in a lot of seasons after it.
@thefoxoflaurels34374 жыл бұрын
Vee isn’t especially interesting television. But here’s the thing: the smartest strategists usually aren’t good tv.
@iam_vannguyen4 жыл бұрын
The Fox of Laurels How she is pretty funny
@IvanValance4 жыл бұрын
I thought she was quite funny
@MsVitaD4 жыл бұрын
She’s more interesting than winners like Tommy, Amber, Nick, Wendell, and Michelle.
@Ortified4 жыл бұрын
@@MsVitaD i'd disagree, it's all opinion on who's interesting.
@MsVitaD4 жыл бұрын
Oshay Tipton imo I think she’s very underrated.
@walpurgisnight72 жыл бұрын
I may not be outright religious, but I will always have a minute for a prayer. Nothing bad comes from a moment of quiet introspection and gratitude.
@mattviggiano4 жыл бұрын
ive told you this before but dude, your so underrated. You put so much work into these videos i really appreciate the quality. Big fan :)
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@trixiewutang Жыл бұрын
Vecepia deserves so much more love and appreciation.
@marjaiiii4 жыл бұрын
Ughhhh rob just didn’t respect V’s gameplay because she was playing the opposite way he was. He wanted to control people and she wanted thing drama free. Underrated winner 🖤
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Rob and her did not mesh well together when it came to playing Survivor this season.
@AllRequired4 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland Probably why Michele got invited back and she wasn't.
@corsariocapitao2 жыл бұрын
@@AllRequired damn, you're right. Jeff couldn't allow his idol Boston Rob to be outplayed by V again
@mylifefornick4 жыл бұрын
She went into Jury 7 vs 3 (rob, sean, V) And WON the game, that is very impressive.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was 7-2. Rob didn't make the jury.
@mylifefornick4 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland I meant to say merge* My bad :)
@lqkim97564 жыл бұрын
Well that's even more impressive
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@boovaa2 жыл бұрын
@@RankopediaHarvey why did you paste the same reply on multiple comments
@TheDizzleHawke4 жыл бұрын
I don’t miss the recap episodes.
@gavinlee12474 жыл бұрын
Vecepia is a very underrated winner. I honestly would've swapped Michele out for her in Winners at War.
@onedirectioninmyhead4 жыл бұрын
I would've swapped Danni for V.
@thefoxoflaurels34374 жыл бұрын
Would have swapped Sarah.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Vecepia over Michelle would of worked for me.
@eizyaws4 жыл бұрын
No keep Michelle she's brilliant. Swap Danni. What in the world is she doing she's not even the same player anymore. Parvati came thru a time machine bc she doesn't age at all
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
Na I swap amber!
@shofranz-moss40024 жыл бұрын
I love these one-character story series. Is there a Courtney Yates one, I gotta check, but if not yet, hopin you make one.. a good choice to binge on a sunday.
@EverythingHappens4AReason4 жыл бұрын
So Underrated!!
@Flowerpot29056 ай бұрын
Extremely deciseful - Brilliant!
@valeriekimeli2 жыл бұрын
About the journal thing, I really don't think it's an "unfair" advantage the way people want to argue it, and you can fight me in the replies 😂 At the end if the day it wasn't illegal. All she did was beat the gamemakers at their own game. People forget that Gabe also had a journal, and it could also be argued that Papy's flag is how Maraamu won the SOS immunity challenge. It's literally the name of the game, Outwit, and that's why we watch survivor.
@mitjamackenzie12192 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was just her being smart nothing unfair about it
@lqkim97562 жыл бұрын
And let's remember that she outlasted seven Rotu members after the jury phase without any advantages.
@acf59804 жыл бұрын
Great vid! One thing I disagree on is that at F5 Vee never said to Kathy she should align with her and Sean because of what it would like on TV. It’s more to correct the perception that they look aligned because they were black and although it could be said that they have always been aligned its more just cause they had to to get further in the game and it never showed they had an F2 deal! In fact I think this is the first voting block in Survivor history. But yeah my main point is that Vee never said vote with us or you might look racist on TV which i think your video implied. I think Kathy misunderstood that too and probably relayed it wrong to Paschal/Neleh.
@Hola-86933 жыл бұрын
“These people were like ANTS! They were “PHRUEJFTHEUSYRJRSUFYEHRIQOSJEOD” and we’re standing there like 😟”
@tylerhaggerty4805 Жыл бұрын
She was so far ahead of the curve too. They built it up that Carson & MGM from S44 studied and practiced past challenges in preparation for the game, but with only 2 seasons of history to go on (because she may not have seen the S3 finale), she correctly foresaw the final 4 immunity challenge of knowing her tribemates and practiced ahead of time.
@camerontrout89594 жыл бұрын
YASSSSSS MY QUEEN
@ricardothompson32054 жыл бұрын
I love vecepia. I believe she was a great winner. Underrated by CBS and the community. CBS love for Boston Rob maybe the reason for not inviting her for winners at war. They only remember Rob from marquesas. Tammy, John, neleh, Sean. ALL great players and characters. But CBS forgot all this early players.
@dovahkiin22593 жыл бұрын
Ironically Paschal,Neleh and Kathy voted off Sean over V because they thought he was more of a threath to win immunity, but the next challenge suited V like a glove!
@handsoaphandsoap3 жыл бұрын
Vecepia is easily one of the most underrated winner, she played a masterful game and CBS decided to just not show most of it for whatever reason. She’s one of my favorite examples of managing your threat level next to maybe Jeremy. She always made sure that a bigger target was in front of her on both sides of the tribe so if she was ever in danger, she wouldn’t be the next to go. At merge she’s in the minority but both Rob and Sean are bigger targets in front of her. At 5, she could’ve been eliminated but again, Sean is seemingly a bigger threat. At 4, while she was immune, there’s a possibility that Kathy still flips to her side because the alliance of Paschal and Neleh is a threat, so even if she’s not immune she’s still not the biggest threat. Then finally, at 3 she’s considered to be less of a threat to both Kathy and Neleh so no matter what, she’s sitting pretty in that final 2. I think future Survivor players should examine her game if they want to make it far, especially players who go into the season with the perception of not being a threat to win.
@mitjamackenzie12192 жыл бұрын
Hot Take most of the time when it comes to female survivor winners they try to make the winners seen unpredictable by under editing their game while most of the time for men they try to tell a story on how they won.
@ricardothompson32054 жыл бұрын
Marquesas ia my favourite season for the early days because I was a little but tired about that major Alliances always going to de end. So it was a fresh novelty.
@rhevclintondiala84924 жыл бұрын
Great content man. excited for your brian story on the next episodes
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
I really like this season and I liked Vecepia as a winner. It seems the Survivor community is warming up to Vecepia as being a legit winner and a very good strategist. I wonder if Jeff has warmed up to her as well?
@willoverbo31543 жыл бұрын
Never realized how Paschal was speaking to V and Sean until I watched some of this back, really makes you think
@cookielafoo38483 жыл бұрын
especially considering he was a judge
@nyaaaa28622 жыл бұрын
Who’s Paschal
@cgarcia3614 Жыл бұрын
@@cookielafoo3848 Big Yikes.😬
@elviskiarie10684 жыл бұрын
I hope a video on Kathy's coming. The true breakout & best player of that season.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
There is a video that focuses on her gameplay, but not one telling her story.
@MrAgentTurner3 жыл бұрын
I just finished this season for the first time. I was surprised how much I loved Kathy! So glad I'll be de seeing her again in All Stars
@aeron0828 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually expecting that there's a video for Kathy but there's none :(
@EverythingHappens4AReason4 жыл бұрын
Great video 🔥
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@linvi_chemutai2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous prayerful woman. Proud Christian 🙏🏿❤️
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@lqkim97564 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, Vecepia got to see all the original Rotu members get their torches snuffed while still in the game.
@kellydaunis4 жыл бұрын
For the exception of Neleh.
@lqkim97564 жыл бұрын
Well her torch did get snuffed at the reunion. Probst did it when everyone hugged
@kellydaunis4 жыл бұрын
@@lqkim9756 True. I forgot about Jeff snuffing her torch.
@Averiel733 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to watch marquesas!
@alexmilne14644 жыл бұрын
Once Upon an Island, you may just pass Perdium as the best Survivor KZbin channel
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you. Though him and I make different content, but still about the same subject.
@alexmilne14644 жыл бұрын
You’re both so great! It’s awesome watching your content man keep it up :)
@AllRequired3 жыл бұрын
We have seen almost every single female Sole Survivor return for another season. There is only one other that hasn't.
@netaverse76942 жыл бұрын
I wonder why smh
@lionelstrongjaw49674 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the video on the iceman
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Mr Freeze is in the house.
@lionelstrongjaw49674 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland even though it's about 110 here
@kellydaunis4 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland I will not watch any videos pertaining to that season. I never watch that season because of the jackass that won. I like your other content on other seasons, though.
@jacksullivan66952 жыл бұрын
vecepia building bonds and flipping on boston rob and sean was really smart because if she didn't she probably would have been screwed
@OnceUponAnIsland2 жыл бұрын
Vecepia played a better game than anyone gives her credit for.
@RankopediaHarvey2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Vecepia made three very smart flips in the game and they all played to her advantage. She flipped on her alliance with Rob & Sean and voted out Rob. Smart move. She then saw how cocky the ROTU 4 were, worked on Pascal & Neleh with Kathy and flipped them and voted out the ROTU 4 one by one. Then she made a final two deal with Kathy that served her well and went tio rocks with Kathy and Pascal went home. And then she flipped for a third time on Kathy knowing she'd maybe lose against Kathy in a final two and made a new Final 2 deal with Neleh. All very smart strategy. I am glad she won and deserved it.
@nelsonhamilton82623 жыл бұрын
I am genuinely curious as to why she’s never been brought back. The only season I could see them doing it now (and the one she’s publicly positioning for) is a blood vs. water season. P.S. And it can’t just be that she’s boring...they’ve brought back plenty of way more boring winners/players.
@OnceUponAnIsland3 жыл бұрын
The crazy part is that she has never been asked once. Some survivors get asked and get declined. She hasn't even gotten that.
@nelsonhamilton82623 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland I think she was contacted and almost made the cut for All Stars but again they thought she was too boring which doesn’t make sense cause they’ve certainly brought back other ‘boring winners’. Tina and Ethan (no offense to either) have been brought back twice. And just from a narrative perspective (first minority winner and now a cancer survivor)...like that’s easy to sell to an audience. It has to be something else that CBS just doesn’t want to say. Like it just comes off like they don’t like her for whatever reason. I mean it’s not like Brian where we all know and understand why he’ll never be brought back. P.S. Kudos on these videos btw. Have been good to watch during the long break between seasons 40 and 41.
@lqkim97562 жыл бұрын
Disappointing to hear that considering that she was the first winner to overcome the 'pagonged' curse.
@nicksilverstein11934 жыл бұрын
I wish Neleh would have won to spite John and Tammy, who wanted her to basically quit when the jury started.
@DimensionSpawn4 жыл бұрын
I feel that V was the final main antagonist of Survivor: Marquesas after Boston Rob and then Sean.
@andrecanton75912 жыл бұрын
Boston Rob calls V fake but he’s the fakest person there
@brycerichardson36874 жыл бұрын
The race thing was so awkward. From Vecepia bringing it up as possibility, to Paschal saying something racist and Kathy being oblivious to it kind of proving that really is where her biases are, all the way to the end where Paschal would definitely take Neleah to the end and Neleah would definitely take Pascal over Kathy.
@MrAgentTurner3 жыл бұрын
Eh. It wasn't that awkward bro
@Florceleste283 жыл бұрын
Its a good sample of how the media at the time treated race controversy situations.
@nyaaaa28622 жыл бұрын
What paschal say
@MiriLegacy7 ай бұрын
@@nyaaaa2862that it was a cultural thing for Vecepia to be sneaky
@nootheralexis4 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for Neleh the whole time. Marquesas is still one of my fave seasons ever
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
It is a season that gets overlooked a lot, unfortunately.
@regularperson73804 жыл бұрын
The first black winner awesome the best
@SaveourPlanetEntertainment4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask how do you use tv clips without being taken down?
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
It falls under fair use :)
@hexywesky3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone done interviews with Vecepia recently, anyone know??
@OnceUponAnIsland3 жыл бұрын
Rob Has A Podcast interviewed her in 2020.
@ahmedaburayya88724 жыл бұрын
A true legend
@noisysea3487 Жыл бұрын
Vecepia's kind of a hard winner to discuss because of how underedited she was. However, she played a game that we hadn't seen before where she never really had the numbers but never really found herself in danger of going home at any point which you can say whatever you want about, but the fact of the matter is that it worked. One thing about her game that I don't think many people talk about is actually how kind of unintentionally Sean was almost like her shield in a way even though they were never really together fully. While people were constantly trying to get them out, Sean was the one in their wrath most of the time while Vecepia was able to quietly sneak up on them. She plays a very understated game, but it is just as dangerous as anyone.
@cuzitsnecessary Жыл бұрын
Vecepia is literally this season's Danielle Reyes.
@ey50054 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Finally
@Trumpluv3 жыл бұрын
She had a tough go at it for sure.
@netaverse76942 жыл бұрын
After re-watching one of my favorite shows of all time, it’s sad to see how narratives were pushed, and how they decided to promote certain people over others. V played a quiet, deceptive and somewhat genius game that paved the way for others, like Sandra to lay low and still make an impact and still control their own destiny. She definitely should have gotten an opportunity to return, but clearly there are narratives that don’t sit well with the producers of the show.
@linvi_chemutai Жыл бұрын
Vecepia's light was bothering the heck out of Robs demons 😂
@speedforcetravibear46404 жыл бұрын
Great video can't wait for next time, not a bot btw
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jakeyoung26964 жыл бұрын
1. Tina 2. Vecepia 3. Hatch 4. Ethan
@58twright4 жыл бұрын
now that i think of it she is a pretty good player i would want to see her play again i know it will never happen probst & production didnt find her that interesting & dont like marquesas except for boston rob idk if shes really that interesting tv though
@socialNukkad4 жыл бұрын
Why want more from you,keep these contents coming.
@marywood83964 жыл бұрын
He has 4 more videos on the Patreon. 3 more from Marquesas and 1 from Thailand.
@nerdsrus56424 жыл бұрын
I theorize that we still have a Kathy video and a Sean video coming up.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
There is definitely a video focusing on Sean and Paschal!
@nerdsrus56424 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland Dang, no Kathy? She was really the star of that season.
@charlestoti22524 жыл бұрын
Kathy is the queen of marquesa😊
@MrSnape774 жыл бұрын
@@OnceUponAnIsland Aha, that can only mean one thing...horses
@thefoxoflaurels34374 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck I never caught that line from Paschal. Gross, gross, gross.
@ServantScientistSonSaved4 жыл бұрын
I wonder, which of Nelah's peers, after those scathing remarks, voted Vecepia's fourth and winning vote?
@gregoryjoseph24174 жыл бұрын
John!
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
@@gregoryjoseph2417 John wanted good gameplay and it was clear as day that Vecepia played a superior game.
@ServantScientistSonSaved4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, thanks guys. Gameplay at its finest. Play on.
@karlos_infamous4 жыл бұрын
just a question, maybe black women can answer: how does vee retain her hair in straight texture given she was getting wet, dirty and very dry in all those conditions? isnt her hair supposed to turn to the natural curly/coily texture of black people's hair? no racism intended, just out of curiosity ✌️
@fadumamohamud67354 жыл бұрын
What Vee has in her hair are called micro braids. It's a protective style in which tiny braids are tightly woven into hair. The texture you're seeing is basically her woven braids that have been detangled. You can see how she started the season with tight braids that appeared to be slowly detangled by the end of the season while the roots of the braids remained in tact. Hope this helps.
@karlos_infamous4 жыл бұрын
@@fadumamohamud6735 thanks so much for the info. by the way, have you seen Tijuana Bradley from Survivor Pearl Islands? she lasted 30 days on the island but she was able to maintain her hair in a straight texture and she didn't wore any protective hairstyle. what could she have done to maintain that texture given the harsh environment?
@fadumamohamud67354 жыл бұрын
@@karlos_infamous I think she may have used relaxer in her hair which chemically straightens your hair. That might be it.
@karlos_infamous4 жыл бұрын
@@fadumamohamud6735 got it thanks 😉 i have really become curious about black people's hair after i have watched good hair by chris rock.
@easy_nator_gamer84984 жыл бұрын
Are Pascal and Butche the same person?
@joseluis28ful3 жыл бұрын
Sagittarius queen!!!
@adamsbriee63304 жыл бұрын
Vecepia?? More like DECEPIA! but i love her tho
@calculatingdork5484 жыл бұрын
With Brian,Sandra and Rich shes for me top 4 ever. Waaay more dangerous than Boston Rob or Parvati.
@Indomita506 Жыл бұрын
Queen
@keefahdafunk-bocksqueefah19504 жыл бұрын
Sean & Vecepia were right & so were Neleh & Paschal idk why nobody mentioned it tho.
@scottAM134393 жыл бұрын
She should have been All Stars (season 8) instead of Shii Ann
@OnceUponAnIsland3 жыл бұрын
Or on Winners at War. Shii Ann made sense but Vecepia would have been better than Jenna Lewis.
@Florceleste283 жыл бұрын
So... the Rotu 4, except the general, just wanted to complain about being eliminated. Pfff. Well, at least Jonh asked a question. With a very bitter and angry actitud, but.
@seancassidy76704 жыл бұрын
So far ill rate the winners as 1. Richard 2. Tina 3. Vecepia 4. Ethan I feel like Vecepia didn’t really do anything that changed the game in my opinion. If I was in the jury I wouldn’t have gave her my vote. If it wasn’t for Neleh switching over this season would have been the same as Season 1. I can understand why they never brought her back.
@OnceUponAnIsland4 жыл бұрын
Vecepua went into the merge down 7-2 and won. All previous winners had the majority at the merge or the episode after. She may of not been the most entertaining, but it could be argued she played the best strategic game of the first 4 winners.
@seancassidy76704 жыл бұрын
Once Upon an Island first thank you first doing all these videos cause your the main reason why I’m stating rewatching all the survivors again starting from the very beginning. Thank you again. But the way I see it is that if it wasn’t for Neleh switching up her alliance and agree to keep Vecepia in the final 2 I don’t think she would off won against Kathy. You can almost make a case Neleh to her to the end all by herself. Just different options but thank you again for all these videos I’m about to start watching Season 5 tonight.
@abcyeti31904 жыл бұрын
@@seancassidy7670 Firstly Vecepia started in the minority in Maramuu after her and Sean voted Sarah. However they became back in the majority after the Patricia vote off. Tribe swap happens and she knows she has to bond with Rotu in order to survive vote offs. Her, Rob, and Sean also successfully get Rotu to turn on Gabe She survives Merge boot because she had enough social bonds with Rotu Vecepia did manipulate Neleh and Paschal to turning on the Rotu four finale 5 Sean was voted out she was in minority again and she flipped Kathy to do the first ever rock draw Finale 3 she flipped on kathy because she knew she would win in a finale 2. The only thing Neleh did was flip on Rotu four which also favored Vecepia.
@jaroj11123 жыл бұрын
Your so ignorant
@crabfoo74514 жыл бұрын
Honestly because I wasn’t raised religious and continue to be an atheist, she was incredibly frustrating to watch because I just don’t give two fucks about Jesus’s beard. On the other hand I still somewhat rooted for her from final 5 onward especially after paschal’s comment
@bubbamike47433 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for Kathy the whole season, but there’s no denying Vecepia deserved the win; a great strategist who changed the game. Although I personally don’t enjoy her gameplay style. The whole “I’m a Christian so I can lie whenever I want, because God will just forgive me later” mentality really rubs me the wrong way.