(Pre-Arrival) Garage Door Flung Across Street After Phoenix House Explosion - June 20, 2022

Location: 18416 N 20th Place - Phoenix
Incident Date/Time: June 20, 2022 - 10:50 AM
Phoenix fire responded to a report of a house explosion on 20th Place in North Phoenix Monday afternoon. Crews arrived and found a garage with the door blown to the other side of the street and a vehicle fully in flames in the center of the garage. Crews stretched a line and quickly attacked the fire. The fire quickly spread to the rest of the structure before fire officials ordered everyone out of the building to go into a defensive fire attack. No one was reported injured according to fire captain and PIO Evan Gammage. Several neighbors said they heard a loud boom prior to seeing the fire and the garage door flying across the street. The cause of the fire is under investigation.
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[@STHFGDBY]

I always remember in my home in Ireland, my parents had an absolute military style routine before we went to bed. Every single electric plug was plugged out, gas cooker was checked to make sure it was off and no candles were ever lit and left unattended . When our parents were out socializing, us young - uns made sure that routine was always done, because it was drilled into us.

[@innergoof19]

"Hey guys! Go inside quickly. I'm not being suspicious by being at every fire before the fire department gets there!" Great video, but that's always in the back of my mind!

[@ronfreniere8769]

Glad that there was no injuries to anyone related to this incident, and that all citizens were safe. Real quick knock down guys. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.

[@NewsPhotogJack]

For those of you commenting regarding the garage door. The timestamp is 7:31 for a wide shot with the garage door laying across the street mangled which both witnesses and the Public information fire official confirmed it was flung to that position following an explosion.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Half of these comments make me wonder if they even watched the video. Sad when you have to make a post with time stamps.

[@johnwashburn7423]

I did watch the video. Your lack of speed is your intolerance if others. With any maturity you MIGHT have said without criticism. "It happens at the 35 second mark." Are you fast enough to pick up the difference between your hate and the helpfulness of my proposed statement? Get on Twitter, perfect home for you

[@SoberBikie333]

Big kudos to the firefighters in this hot 115 degrees heat. I really got to give it to them, because they really show up and they take care of the situation.....

[@neilarmsweak9084]

I work in the valley. We had a garage fire last week.. we were probably 30 seconds from our fire taking off like this. It’s all about time. We basically put it out with 750 gallons of tank water before the second engine drought a supply. Nothing wrong with what these guys did. Maybe little kink in the first line. Looks like the second engine hustled interior, got an all clear, tried to put it out. Just need little more time. These light weight sh&t houses do not help

[@dejected72]

Thank God the boys were not home and no one was injured! So scary!

[@pmccoy8924]

Yes but why not drop the phone beat on doors or smash windows to make sure they're not there?

[@DaleDix]

@@pmccoy8924 gotta get that video.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

@@pmccoy8924 How do you know no one already completed that task? Why does the camera man need to risk injury when he is not a fire fighter? There was an explosion, no one should be near the home. If you watch the video, upon arrival (fire crew) he is told to stay clear because of this. Also, breaking windows gives oxygen to the fire which can create flash over and/or feed the flames. Glad you're not my hero neighbor.

[@pmccoy8924]

@@DaDuTchMan2357 if you watched the video he said I don’t know if anyone is home to the fire department. You would also know pre arrival the fire was contained. Let the people inside burn to crisp because you prevented a flashover instead of potentially saving lives. Sometimes you don’t need to be a know it all. Sit this one out, Skip.

[@jimgriffin9924]

@@DaDuTchMan2357 People die because people like you are too cowardly to try and save someone's life.

[@itiswhatitis1306]

That fire was in the attic before the fire department even showed up on scene house was done for

[@bruceburch8301]

That was quick response!

[@scottdore8391]

Thank God no one got smoked by that door that would of been bad good video thanks for sharing and have a good summer sir

[@matthewskube6452]

I like the little fire truck.

[@CyclingSasquatch]

Probably could've pumped a better stream than that first line off the engine.

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

Yes, but did we really need such a long shot of it.

[@dave-jk6it]

I love the critique by you ppl . You clearly have no idea of protocol … water on the fire in less than 2 mins is perfect… second line stretches to door… can’t make entry til you have a backup crew on the fireground. All basics that they did that you all are criticizing.

[@viceroyvic]

Kudos to Phoenix FD for getting water on the fire promptly.

[@erichhitchcock3368]

The ten seconds of that child's rig made the video! Awesome.

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

Ten seconds was self indulgent. The videographer is not shooting a feature film! I would prefer to see firefighting, not arty-farty bits of silliness.

[@sahmuleadams5270]

This is a very good job of fast water application! Maybe 500 gallons in 1 minute might’ve saved something? All engines have a master stream

[@13eckerlosmuerte]

People making comments on terrible fire fighting have no idea how shitty arizona homes are really built. They are literally pop sickle sticks bone dry with a fuck load of flammable insulation and barely any room to maneuver more than 2 men at a time with a hose. The corridors are narrow and yards are typically the size of a conference room. Saving an arizona home is and will always be a fucking miracle

[@cmerton]

Go eat a "pop sickle", then scoot to your remedial English class.

[@strnglhld]

You’ve literally never seen houses in the northeast I take it. Houses in Arizona are palatial compared to them.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

I came to the comments to see if anyone noticed the name of the toy was being spoken about across the radio chatter, "Rescue 27". Pretty cool timing.

[@Zachattackisrad]

Yea I heard that 😅

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Man, guess I have to leave this comment here also. #1 You're watching a KZbin video that only shows what the camera lens shows you, therefore how can any of you make any negative comments when you cannot view what is fully taken place. You weren't there! #2 All of you claiming to be fire fighters is funny. Real fire fighters don't bash other bothers. Like Jim said, "Armchair quarterbacks". P.S. Fire was in the walls and attic upon arrival. Also, fire fighters were moving swiftly. You're not supposed to be running!

[@53ph3ra]

No running on the fire ground! Step quickly and efficiently.

[@victorvasquez2788]

Great Job E45! Not impressed with E45A, not ready go, SCBA not properly secured, almost if he didn’t want to go in! Again PFD outstanding FD, one of the Best in the country!

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

This looks much better than regular American firefighting.

[@doughdad4015]

As the housing and car markets crash expert a lot more insurance claims like this

[@aday1637]

Hybrid car...that says it all. Was it made by GM?

[@oldmeadowvalevillager7961]

doesn't matter if it was a GM . . they're ALL hybrid shit . .

[@deborahsoucy2884]

Nice video --- Debbie & Tiffany

[@kellywentz4452]

So the guy filming couldn’t knock to see if anyone was there? Glad he isn’t my neighbor

[@darrencouzins6500]

SHIT WATER PRESURE FROM THE PUMP, AND WAY TOO LONG GETTING WATER ON THE FIRE.

[@jimmccabe801]

you tube know nothing.

[@darrencouzins6500]

@@jimmccabe801 If you are having a pop at me, just to let you know, I was a firefighter for 30 years.

[@jimmccabe801]

@@darrencouzins6500 33 years here. So pop away.

[@darrencouzins6500]

@@jimmccabe801 where

[@jimmccabe801]

@@darrencouzins6500 ca

[@my2cents945]

I"m confused by all the critical comments. Wet stuff on the hot stuff in 2 minutes, good hustle, not a lot of guys standing around wondering what to do next. Not like some of these videos where a bunch of guys stand around and it takes 5 minutes of get a wet hose going. Considering the garage door was flung across the street, I would expect the pressure of that explosion compromised inside walls allowing the fire to spread as it did. Yet so many negative comments. Am I missing something?

[@AryehH]

Yes what you're missing is a bunch of couch potatoes spewing their opinions based on no experience. A bunch of clowns.

[@jeffpitoniak]

I would have pulled a 2-1/2

[@VanceWorldTravel]

You are right, but we are all experts sitting behind our keyboards!!! No 2 fires are the same, your eyes and senses only have so much information at a time in real-time. Lots of moving parts... They did a good job, considering what they were up against.

[@ericweiler6571]

What you think of as "standing around" is not standing around at all. Command gives assignments and for all you know, he could have assigned first due to set a supply and then RIT. Rapid Intervention Team or RIT are firefighters who are on standby in case of an emergency-especially firefighters. Ask any firefighter who have been rescued by RIT and see what they tell you about "standing around." Further, firefighters who appear to be doing nothing can be very misleading. They might be assigned to the hose and could be waiting for the line to charge. They might be getting equipment together such as ladders, chainsaws, or whatever. Another thing about North American firefighters is, they rotate for fatigue or whatever reasons where they go to rehab. American and Canadian fire depts use a lot of resources including apparatuses, manpower, etc. Some other areas use very little resources but might have a crew of 10 whereas others utilize more resources, which is usually dependent on the type of fire. Take London Fire Brigade.. Arguably the best in the world. I was doing a demo of a Partner cut off saw (a lot of firefighters call them K12s) since we sell to fire depts. We were in Seattle on a controlled burn and there were a couple of guys from London and one or two from Germany who all said they weren't expecting much from American firefighters... That was until they did training with Seattle Fire. I was telling the British guys and the Germans that I had just gotten back from Europe and told them how much I loved it there. Then I asked what they thought of Seattle Fire. Every single one of them said the same thing, "we didn't expect much until our first training with a controlled burn." They went onto say how wrong they were to assume that about American and Canadian firefighters. I ask them specifically what it was that changed their minds. They said, "your conditions are much different than ours-for the most part." For example, Seattle is in a seismic zone (D, E, F - the strongest zones according to the building code) and because of this our buildings, including houses, are built differently than the homes in London or Germany, and are even built differently than other houses in America as well. One guy from London was really cool and we talked for about an hour and he was pleasantly surprised at the work we do here and they don't do. He thought vertical ventilation was unnecessary until he went into a wood frame construction which, according to him, was extremely hot with no vision. He was assigned to go on the roof on the next controlled burn and cut vents to allow smoke and heat to escape. He brought up PPV (positive pressure ventilation) and was surprised to learn we have PPV and have for some time, but it didn't work as well as venting. Either way, never underestimate firefighters. Those who are standing around might be relieved by another crew. There are a lot of reasons.

[@gregakinson2800]

Your .02 cents worth is what makes no sense. Look into comments above for answers.

[@rosieposie6671]

Do we know yet if this was caused by a gas leak?

[@rexmayn3171]

Total loss. Sad.

[@andyneipert2527]

Nice looking phx fire truck in video

[@biladcock9055]

Holy Hannah! The garage knock down guys thought they were about done! Nobody did a full structural assessment until.... Flames through the roof.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Did you not watch the video? You didn't see the second line make entry into the home immediately following the initial garage attack?

[@TheMaleficent1]

The firefighters were in the house at 2:56 before flames are seen through the roof. It is pretty obvious that the explosion ignited the interior of the house, and it was burning before the FD arrived.

[@keithroberts4028]

As a young soldier, I was taught to do my soldiering with wat the NCOs called " a sense of urgency".

[@joeglennaz]

I live A couple of miles away up to the north. I didn’t see the smoke on this one.

[@beckytwister01]

Have they figured out what caused the fire. Also did they locate the homeowner

[@ichkannviel]

Still incomprehensible that they do not finish the firefighters until they arrive. Here in Europe, this is already done while driving, that is, upon arrival, one is already fully dressed, that is, breathing air, mask... everything is ready. In Burgerland, you do that only when you are in front of the fire. And, everything not too fast.

[@gabrielchaparro1698]

These guys look like they just woke up from napping. The driver didn't even hop out until he was sure he got the correct address. What a crew.

[@CA2CAoutdoors]

That’s dumb. You don’t go on air until you’re in an IDLH. If something bad happens then you have every last breath before running out of air.

[@ichkannviel]

@@CA2CAoutdoors I see you have not understood the system. The firefighters in Europe put on the breathing apparatus during the journey in order not to lose time. The mask is only put on and the cylinder opened on site. This saves time.

[@CA2CAoutdoors]

@@ichkannviel you wrote breathing air am I supposed to know your typo?

[@ichkannviel]

@@CA2CAoutdoors What do you think is in the compressed air cylinder ???? That's right, breathing air.

[@dave-jk6it]

“They might be home “ real concern from the guy … instead of pounding on the door himself …. Oh my bad.. filming is more important

[@kingtim41]

Where is his water pressure?

[@RLTtizME]

Do you have prostate issues?

[@kingtim41]

@@RLTtizME the Hell r u talking about !!!!

[@RLTtizME]

@@kingtim41 👈🤡😛😂

[@bruceburch8301]

Less than two minutes with water! 😲

[@itstheoz1]

is that an ev in garage

[@SocialistDistancing]

It's one thing that I don't like about attached garages.

[@JBart3112]

That’s not nearly enough work from a four-person first-in engine on a working fire. That first line on the garage is a one-person job. The other FF and Captain should have had another line stretched into the house and cleared the search and got water into the attic right away.

[@longeze]

Our organization has a "2 in, 2 out" sop. Unless there is a "rescue exception," we couldn't go in with just two guys with no backup. Of course, if there is reason to believe there are victims inside....we could make the declaration and go in.

[@Jim-fk7ph]

Don’t worry armchair quarterbacks, Phoenix Fire has a long reputation as one of the best departments in the country.

[@jeffsaunders4785]

Yes they do !! Old job

[@jeffsaunders4785]

Good job

[@gliderider7077]

😂 looks like it, but that’s not saying much for firefighters 🤡. Biggest clown profession there is

[@itiswhatitis1306]

@@gliderider7077 sounds like someone couldn’t cut it as a fire fighter lol

[@ronstrulic4388]

@@gliderider7077 guessing you couldn't pass the civil service exam.

[@jeffpitoniak]

The neighbor said possible entrapment. No immediate search done?

[@thetazva]

Did you watch the video? entry was made with a second line immediately after they started attacking the garage fire.

[@jeffpitoniak]

@@thetazva yes. That’s delayed search. Immediate means 1 st line inside to protect the search team. Not wait til the next crew gets there . Life before property

[@twinturbskies]

At time stamp 44 sec look inside the garage to the left looks like something fell kinda looks like a???? Let me know if you see what I see 👀

[@Chardy3800]

That's freaking creepy

[@randybaker9265]

Why would you not show the garage door across the street and not show the whole truck that pulled up first and if that is a pumper why is the pumper front door ?? Pumper never take front door ladder truck gets front door

[@brianbrown826]

I have seen many videos of US firefighters doing generally a good job but one thing always strikes me is that, without exception, they have to drag out hoses more than they need before the water can pass through. Here the appliances have a hose on a reel which can be deployed quickly while other firefighters run out more and bigger hoses if required.

[@trentverdonck18]

Booster lines are not meant for structural firefighting,

[@mudducke8]

Each engine has at least two 250 ft 1 3/4" and two 2 1/2" 250 ft preconnects. Lots of fires occur where you cannot just drive up to it.

[@robertborchert932]

There are two variants of this, rubber jacketed "booster reel" lines. The classic reel line is not the same as what we see in Europe, the high pressure reel line. Seen some demonstrations on their use, handy indeed. I've worked with these lines, they are more common on apparatus built for the more rural areas, wildland interface. Yes, they deploy and charge crazy fast! In this fire, I can see that the smoke is easily venting through the residential space, look at the roof line. Likely, when that explosion occurred, pressure was sufficient to blow the garage door across the street. I guarantee, the drywall between the garage and the attic space was seriously compromised from the onset. These homes look nice, but those high ceilings and gang nail plate truss structure can be a whole new ballgame once fire gets to the attic and trusses.

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

@@trentverdonck18 I've used high pressure hosereels for 25 years, they are great for structure fires.

[@Jimmythefish577]

@@trentverdonck18 high pressure booster lines a perfectly fine for fighting structure fires.

[@psdesert7907]

Instead of filming why didn’t you bang on their door to alert them instead of waiting for the FD

[@coach2208]

The neighbor was better off using his garden hose, these firefighters took way to long to get water into the fire.

[@Tallbacken11]

How about getting water on the fire! Way to slow….

[@boblongdickder6178]

See the lesson today boys and girls do not cook meth in your house it will blow up

[@yamamabum5665]

🥰

[@louisc.gasper7588]

Propane tanks next to an electric vehicle.

[@stuby2014]

The captian wasn't ready for anything. Good job. No V.E.S. No 360. Why did you even show up?

[@matthewskube6452]

Yikes!

[@jimgriffin9924]

"There's no way I could have checked the house." Yes, you could have.The fire was still mainly confined to the garage. Even if you just knocked on the door. Your neighbor might have been lying just inside the door, passed out, and you could have pulled him/her out and saved their life in that case, just by opening the door.. Instead, you were more worried about taking video. And you have the gall to tell the professional firefighters to check the house, which is the first thing they do. You're a pretty sad individual.

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Exactly. Absolutely pathetic!

[@gboy1298]

So quick to judge. My front door is always locked. So if I was passed out on the floor and someone knocked. Good luck getting me to answer the door. 🤔

[@peakbagger2014]

That GPM was uneventful haha

[@xXBuckOFiveXx]

6:15 I see what you did there lol

[@bwash6249]

Great job. Kudos

[@joemoore8054]

What a joke...NOT Combat Ready.

[@greyman686]

Hey now, these are professional firefighters. Of course they are. ;)

[@georgecoons6872]

Are they using ddl foam. Dawn dish liquid.

[@billpizzaman4700]

Didnt look quick to me. Im not a firefighter but tech exists that would have had that fire out 1 min after arrival. Please tell me why the oppisition to UHP Firefigthing

[@tomkelly3896]

I bet they had propane tank inside

[@dburns8381]

Good job men! Less than 2 minutes after arrival to first water! Superb.

[@mhaskins3769]

2 minutes??? Wtf. Should be 30 seconds. They are pre connected lines.

[@TheMaleficent1]

Agreed...great job!

[@gabrielchaparro1698]

No sense of urgency. Just milling around looking for a better parking spot. What a waste of taxpayers dollars on process training for speed and accuracy. The driver took his sweet time getting out. None of them geared up. No hustle. Shame.

[@leightongalleries6057]

Same problem with almost every vid. FF standing there with a limp hose. How ridiculous. Figure it out fellas.

[@razony]

Kids fire truck was a nice touch. Good reaction time. Good hustle. Save the houses near by. Good job. PFD!

[@rouser301]

Since the explosion is not shown nor the door flying through the air the title is still click bait-thumbs down

[@jutzgolf]

Phoenix Fire getting it done. Lucky to have them in our community.

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

Electric car? Hot future

[@TheBeingReal]

Leaking propane.

[@jeffsaunders4785]

Great job guys !!

[@bustertaco]

No garage door flung across the street, fix your headline.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Watch the entire video before posting. Your comment makes you sound kinda slow. It's time stamped as well as stated in the interview, smh.

[@cmerton]

That's not a headline. Headlines are found in newspapers. That's a video title. The Ken Meek shall NOT inherit!

[@eurothrasher2823]

Another Electric Car explodes....

[@harrypunishers4418]

ill get alot of hate from those that never been in the fire scene, but , that house could have been saved with the right firemen. those dudes arent arresive at all. Stood 15 feet outside of the garage instead of getting in there and putting it out. I woulda you have 2 pre connects on that truck. Take one in the front door and have a guy at the garage. could of had that garage out with a booster. This is what happens when you hire scared ass firemen.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Clearly you've never worked a fire in your life... And never bothered to watch the entire video 🤣

[@keithfaulk1354]

The guys in the fire truck act like they got all day !!!

[@littlehuey5679]

Terrible!

[@romeodal12]

Firefighters on TV shows move faster than the ones in real life.

[@katbrunelle2290]

That's because it is real life. Don't believe what you see on TV and movies. What are you, 5?

[@jeanrenn5269]

They get paid more!!

[@reginaldwashington9357]

Faster water on fire than most American fire department. 👍

[@hkgat8632]

Oh yah, push it into the house.

[@robinblitz5213]

Meth lab?

[@johnwashburn7423]

I did not see the flying garage door. Maybe just me but I thought it would be in the video.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Did you watch the video? Is everyone here slow? Please watch the entire video before posting.

[@katbrunelle2290]

You only would have seen the garage door fly if the house was being filmed (or on Ring cameras) at the moment of the explosion. This all took place minutes later. The door is seen later on the street. This is not the movies.

[@strnglhld]

@@katbrunelle2290 Yeah it is.

[@katbrunelle2290]

@@strnglhld Yeah, and what movie would this be? Who's playing the Lead and when does it open ?

[@strnglhld]

@@katbrunelle2290 Backdraft II starring Gare Auj-Door opening this fall

[@paulaajohnson2597]

Terrible fire fighting. If that happened where we live, all of them would be canned.

[@justanotherguy1110]

Yeah, okay Karen. Your little volly department couldn't hold a candle to Phoenix, they're actual professionals and know what they're doing. Evidently you don't know what you're doing.

[@RLTtizME]

But you work at J.C. Penny. How would you know?

[@krishjellum8612]

If you would’ve pulled up and hit that with a deck done with a fog pattern on an initial arrival it would’ve stopped all of that instead of pushing it through the house very slow water deployment

[@Jimmythefish577]

The fire had already extended well Into the attic space before these guys ever arrived. The fire attack plan they used was perfectly fine, until the fire self vented through the roof.

[@JAIMELOPEZ-do3ke]

Fire trucks should have a nozzles

[@glennsoucy4359]

That's about the most illiterate comment in a sea of stupid

[@tommoxjr]

Some Commenters should have muzzles

[@mikefargo4339]

Absolutely PATHETIC ! Piss poor hose streams, a boob running around in a T-shirt and station pants (I assume he's the engineer), No vertical ventilation... and you wonder why the fire got into the attic and consumed the whole structure.... but they saved the foundation !

[@JAIMELOPEZ-do3ke]

Fire trucks should have a couple of nozzles facing front and one facing side ways so when it arrives at scene it be 100% ready to shoot water instead of waitin for the crew to set ☝ up

[@Gunz_FF]

no they should not lmao crew should train and be able to have the line stretched, charged, bled, and masked up in under a minute. only exceptions to that are long stretches or far setbacks. this is bread and butter right here

[@mr.wilson8340]

Great idea! NOT

[@eriksand9262]

And then be out for water within a few seconds. Hell yeah!

[@JAIMELOPEZ-do3ke]

@@eriksand9262 well , yeah but they would be turned on for a specific area one at a time , not at the same time , you know, just as an emergency , like when a car/ auto is on fire, something for a fast response...only as needed😒

[@stuby2014]

Or maybe setup as giant rotating sprinklers and drive them right into the buildings and turn them on!

[@kingtim41]

This was fought all wrong !! where is the truck to do the assessments-search and rescue and cut the weatherheads and pull the gas meter?

[@johnclyne6350]

If you took notice? The neighborhood is fed underground for power. No weatherheads. Gas meters aren’t pulled.

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

Wow and you assessed this all from a KZbin video? Seems like it would be a statement made by someone who was THERE. Also, please be sure to send this department the book you wrote on fire fighting techniques. Surely you're an expert. Then again, just from the video I can see the power is fed underground, somehow you managed to miss that.

[@MrGbutter]

Looks like an electric car fire. Thanks BIDEN.

[@tomkelly3896]

Take your time....its burning its self oyt

[@garysanderson7642]

I could pee harder than that first jet, shocking !! No urgency at all

[@blukermit891]

Try to move in bunkergear. Add the weight of the hose combined with high heat index.... why don't you get out of your armchair and volunteer

[@KC8EWU]

Your really showing how clueless you are.

[@RLTtizME]

You have to stop doing that in public. You will be arrested.

[@matthewskube6452]

They get excited about using their hose.

[@sullivns1]

How did I know in the 1st 30 seconds that this was going to be a total loss, pathetic

[@wolfpacva]

that fire had a huge head start before the fire dept arrived

[@user-mv3bm4qm6q]

🇴🇲👨‍🚒❤️😍🇴🇲🚒😘

[@gabrielchaparro1698]

Those firefighters sure took their time with no sense of urgency.

[@ohpoleez]

Sure am glad no one's in a hurry. Take your time guys...no big deal. Sorry to interrupt your xbox game at the station.

[@scottnoble1852]

Terrible fire fighting

[@supejc]

What makes you think anyone cares at all about what you have to say? You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[@gliderider7077]

Bunch of clowns, might as well just issue them brooms and shovels to clean the foundations off as slow as they are 🙄

[@cjritchie9701]

Please tell me how you would of operated on this fire?

[@Eagle101Reed]

The initial response was lack Lester. Plus I’ve never seen any department that allows their engineers to wear regular street clothes instead of turnouts. Just kind of lazy if you ask me.

[@David-bv3cf]

Who's Lester? Have you ever seen a video of FDNY? Their engineers/chauffeurs wear uniforms/ street clothes generally while driving as well. The driver is responsible for the apparatus, not the fire, unless the whole crew goes in as a backup unit

[@kimifan06]

? The driver almost always wears street clothes across any American fire department. They drive the rig and man the pumps, no need for turnout gear.

[@kentcarter835]

Learn how to spell and proof read, Lester. 🤣

[@mhaskins3769]

I disagree with the idea that all the engineer does is drive and pumps. What if they showed up and had to perform a rescue? The engineer could be part of the “two out”.

[@justanotherguy1110]

@@mhaskins3769 That's not how two in/two out works. At least any department worth anything. You can't efficiently pump a truck & go inside at the same time. Tell me I'm wrong.

[@LionRoars918]

Talk about useless

[@DaDuTchMan2357]

I thought the same thing when I read your comment. "What a useless comment"

[@cjritchie9701]

Talking about yourself?

[@scottnoble1852]

What a joke Terrible fire fighting

[@Leggeddude]

Very very slow they were not prepared at all with everything hoses water and getting their mask on everything very disappointing

[@georgecoons6872]

Themajestrium1 youtube. All new york city fires all the time.🎉