Drama Time - Casuals Destroy Friendships

[@jake212]

Being a noob is one thing but abusing a noob, making them the clown of the raid and then expecting them to catch up and continue to raid despite making them the clown and giving them no help/guidance is a punishable offense

[@TicTocRobotSnot]

I hope the players in that raid all see this and are ashamed of themselves.

[@benmccoy6417]

That is why alot of people quit attempting even being In guilds or groups

[@Koranthus]

He was not a noob though, he had maxed out multiple characters, done a bunch of dungeons, he just didn't want to know anything outside his little bubble. Blame the raiders, sure but its not like he put in any effort to not be a clown.

[@jake212]

@@Koranthus leveling and raiding are completely different, dungeons too. The guy was a noob because he didn't know the mechanics or how to prep for raid. Sure he's a casual noob and it's kind of funny it's pretty shit for the raid to turn him into a clown by making fun of him and not trying to make him better. Gotta treat people with respect even if you don't think they deserve it. Also probably not a good idea to have a guy dead in the ground when you could just explain the mechanics and potentially get some dps out. I must say your take is not based.

[@FAL87]

@@Koranthus Man, they were "friends". It doesnt matter if he was a noob, didnt prepped or whatever. Friends are not supposed to act like assholes. No, it goes further. normal human beeings dont act that way.

[@Akinon93]

that first story, the raiders/friends brought it on themselves. how you gonna invite a guy who has never raided before into a heroic run and not tell him a single thing about raiding other than "you get good gear", then laugh at him when he doesn't know about flasks and food at etc? like, yeah, sure, he could've googled things...but that's on the raiders and especially raid leader for not even making sure the super casual newbie even knew what a flask was.

[@danielsmith8225]

If there's one thing Darksoul69 knows how to do when it comes to raid leading, it's to throw wave after wave of disposable minions at a problem until they either figure it out for him or their corpses stack so high that he's able to reach AoTC.

[@Riplee86]

Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

[@ctsupafly]

Kif, show them the mount they gave me.

[@SporeTres]

@@ctsupafly *sigh*

[@axocopan42]

Victory is found at the top of a mountain of your own fallen!

[@seanwilliams7655]

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!

[@Sadfluffybear]

If a causal destroys a friendship, do you then call that a casualty?

[@ems6706]

if i could like this more than once i would.

[@BM03]

Only if it happens in Mortal Kombat.

[@Paramontana92]

Love that! Haha

[@princton23]

Nice lol

[@crzyninja91]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼bravo here is your 👍🏻

[@ZombieSlayerTakashi]

In regards to that second story, on one hand, you gotta respect the mental endurance you'd need to have to ignore all the flack you'll get from each and every group you make. On the other... the fact that they were able to get away with it just shows how broken the LFG system is in WoW.

[@ianhorne9594]

I mean you just reform the group over and over until you get a competent batch of people to kill a boss 🤷🏽‍♂️. Not a lot of people would just spend all day for a week pugging

[@jake212]

@@ianhorne9594 you'd be surprised. When I was in pugs 9/10 people would require ahead of the curve even though they didn't have it they could guarantee a carry

[@EthanBradley1231]

Casuals don't destroy friendships, assholes do

[@networknomad5600]

"No, I'm the Raid leader." When I hear stories like this, it makes me legitimately never want to login again.

[@icebox1954]

The last guy was an absolute gigachad. You can't even be mad at such a shameless display.

[@KingCurt]

Fucking hilarious and strikingly accurate. It’s a microcosm of pug gearing in world of Warcraft.

[@zycanchase2507]

I'm just here to fill the comment section. That's my job. #raidleader

[@brandonkruse6412]

Ahead of the Curve - Drama Time

[@ninjaman0003]

I feel for the writer of the first story. Sure, they were naive and honestly had an elitist attitude in fps games, but the group realized a person was a noob at wow and laughed at them instead of helping. Granted I would've laughed too, but I would still help them learn.

[@hubertkowalewski2939]

I feel bad for the guy in the last story. Imagine doing decently and putting in effort only for someone else to just get basically boosted.

[@shaunmil]

These stories make me glad i quit WoW not too long ago. I miss it, but do not miss the people's attitudes

[@NeguraGhost]

Yea, the community is the worst in all gaming. period. Just checked classic out for maybe playing wotlk classic and one of the first things happening was, me and a friend killing a mob and getting called assholes because we didn't see someone was mentally preparing to pull the same mob.

[@Frost_Saber]

@@NeguraGhost It's not great by any means sure, but I strongly disagree its the worst. LoL community was horrific levels of abusive toxicity. You might have a better time going for private servers for old wow versions, the retail ones did seem to be full of meta obsessed bots when I tried classic.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

@@NeguraGhost Worst? Nope League is 1000000% worse

[@FluffmanPOE]

second story was probably one of the best in a long time :D

[@killsomethin]

Yes it was .

[@HakaishinCat]

This is basically my experience with wow lmao, starting out without anybody to play with and being trash talked and shit on for not knowing what im doing when I was just largely playing the game as I had any other mmo questing and such, no surprises I never put much time into the game

[@Imabirdhaww]

Darksouls69 was the Douglas Haig of raiding LFG. I'm here to organize only, we will do this by attrition! Douglas Haig is the British General that had the term "lions led by donkeys" coined after him.

[@elizabethlea27]

Preach's adlibs are perfection.

[@foxypoxi]

Darksoul69 is an absolute legend. Also he acted as if he were 50-60 yo probably being 12. Amazing.

[@jeffreyslater6717]

Imagine being so toxic that you can't find a single warlock to join your raid in a game with millions of players, so much so that you have to manipulate someone you know IRL into filling the role

[@sirbauldwin1318]

Darksouls69 was not the raid leader we needed, but the one we deserved.

[@jonathanbince6410]

I've been trying to figure out what makes your videos so compelling. For me its that you ooze authenticity with everything you do. Stupid ass story, excellent telling. PREACH!

[@GUJonas]

Omg the telling of this story is so great, I'm actually dying of laughter.

[@mauriciomartell2433]

Funny, that's the point where someone in FF14 would have stopped and started with a little tutorial on rotations and expected mechs. But then again, FF14 doesn't demand vicious repeatable long-grinded cycles to trap its player base.

[@Scrooge042]

lmao

[@brandonkruse6412]

That second story was as hilarious as the recent one of the Asian grandfather fishing in-game.

[@Alnarra]

Darksouls was just persistent, he just threw time at the problem. There's an argument to be had that throwing enough time at an MMO challenge should eventually allow you to beat the challenge.

[@sidewayspagan9221]

"You need AotC" lmfao

[@NerdishGeekish]

And thus, the author of the 2nd story learned that day that the world isn't fair.

[@alewis514]

Darksoul69 deserves a respect for stubbornness. I wonder how many hundreds of people he cycled through to get this raid cleared. This was only possible on horde too, pre-xfaction it would simply not be possible to cycle through that many people. Even Asmongold has a hard time assembling a raid group on his stream and he's the biggest WoW streamer that exists. And possibly the only alliance big streamer. I've been in a number of shit pugs but never encountered a raid leader that was behaving like a boost buyer. Or any player to be honest. Yes i bought some carries for alts cos I had lots of gold and in those raids it was okay to just die and let overgeared players handle it themselves. But not in normal raids.

[@herbeste]

Yep, most people here are completely missing the point of the saga of Darksoul69. What a pity.

[@blackestmamba]

This man had one job "fill the raid" and he did his job until the end. Respect. Most people take this story as "this is what's wrong with the community" I take it as a proof that perseverance wins above all

[@Shiirow]

Darksoul69... the hero we need but dont deserve.

[@elizabethlea27]

😂😂

[@Aegishand]

Wow that aotc only story hurt my heart.

[@haukuror8596]

Arrived in the UK last Friday, can confirm it was ungodly hot.

[@XDmGuy1]

Uk needs to see the glory that is central air. I was told you guys don’t have AC… like why…

[@adognamedsally]

I think it's generally cold enough that you don't need it so it just isn't really a thing. Totally inconceivable to me though, living in the desert.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Because we generally do not need it. Most of the year its cold.

[@JPrescottQ]

I generally don't need a hammer most days, I still have one.

[@ashe274]

Darksoul69 is the kind of jerk that actually exists and actively brings despair to people who actually put forth effort to make things happen. The worst part is that this stuff happens more than any of us would like. It’s heartbreaking tbh.

[@networknomad5600]

Seriously though. Hearing that shit makes me never want to login again.

[@SapphireDragon357]

I don't even play WoW and that story made me viscerally angry at 5 in the morning, and now I can't sleep because I want to punch that player so badly.

[@leefitzsimons7541]

That's Preach making an excuse not to buy air conditioning lol

[@brandonkruse6412]

Can someone link me the episode about the five year old girl raiding with her uncle? Haven’t heard that one yet 🤣

[@samschulman3663]

The episode is called “destroyed by a child”

[@lukegto]

oof darksouls69 is ruthless. a true champion story worthy of the name

[@cynical1232]

25:13 I was not prepared!

[@YiotisTheGnome]

+1 to you Mikai!

[@porkjuices8365]

Darksoul69 did the old school method of brute forcing your way through.

[@mikaidev]

I'll shamelessly comment in this empty comment section before I've even seen the episode.

[@Jules-77]

Nice one 😁

[@KutluMizrak]

turbo casual is the word here.

[@harrymartin6517]

I can't wait to see darksoul69 raidleading in RWF dragonflight, max and scripe best be taking notes 🤔

[@Moonshaft]

DarkSoul69 was absolutely a cryptid.

[@LocalDegenn]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rehvan8669]

Darksouls69 is the main character of WoW.

[@joshuawalsh3255]

Both of these stories made me sick, for different reasons.

[@grumpy_guss]

FFX is one of my 2 favorite FF's! The other is VIII.

[@achilles_odysseyMusic]

God I love these they make me laugh so hard.

[@purbmeister]

It's hot because BoJo fell asleep on the weather machine again

[@punker2534]

Darksoul69 is my hero!

[@know_Name]

preach lookin good these days

[@fnordcola3226]

Darksoul69, inventor of casual day-raiding

[@GUJonas]

DarkSoul69 is a raiding god, clearly!

[@hub1986]

Darksoul69 WHAT a legend haha

[@noobkaka567]

Darksouls69 the legend

[@themagickgoblin840]

I still miss ghost

[@aldebaran1977]

Only 18 minutes in and this story is so cringe I love it, but, for a guild focused on friendship did he never ask his friends how to play the game? Did he never try to pick up a quest and kill things in the immediate area? It just seems crazy he wouldn't learn anything about improving his gameplay from talking to his fiends in game.

[@aldebaran1977]

@@XCodes totally agree. It wasn't until the end that i was like...YES! Exactly...Google shit! I'm just surprised the only question they had for him was about flasks? And no one bothered to say hey, check out wowhead, check out icy veins. There are so many forums to learn from its mind blowing. Although if I was playing solo and enjoying the game, I would just avoid groups. That's pretty much what I do. I raided in Cata and MOP and lost interest after that cause I was tired of all the prep, homework and sense of obligation. I just wanted to do my own thing, and if I wanted better gear, i would endure an LFR every once in a while. But yes, the key here, is Google shit cause what you don't know...could kill you lol

[@skittlemenow]

Nothing wrong with being a casual player. It's not like he invited himself to join that raid. Pretty shitty group of player in my opinion. Especially since they had already taken him on a raid once. So it's not like they didn't know his level of skill in raiding.

[@ich3730]

Not really, he never bothered to ask any questions or imply that he made mistakes. From the view of his friend and brother, it looks like he sabotages the raid for shits and giggles.

[@volishun]

Praise Darksoul69!!!

[@Plasmacat1]

The English barrier thing is not being a casual it's just being dumb, I know he was a kid but come on videogames are the main reason I learnt English and especially vocabulary.

[@Tarren604]

I actually think its the other way around, that the folks that prefer to push/Rush content is intolerant children when others do not meet their expectations, well newsflash, nobody is obligatwd to meet those players expectations,requirements demands, its their issue that they cannot tolerate others who play the game for fun and not as a job/lifestyle ,those people are the ones ruining the friendships, the atmosphere of groups and raids , they are the prinsesses that cannot handle when the world do not conform to them, generation Princess.

[@vicc6790]

The Darksoul69 story is the greatest story ever told by man holy shit

[@soxnotsocks]

I've been away for a while. is Mike into lore now? nerd 😅 jk

[@belstar1128]

I bet that when i will try to listen to this in a few hours from now ff14 will be offline. Edit wow the game actually worked i got to do fetch quests and watch cutscenes for 1 hour the mmo that respects my time👌

[@markmitchell153]

Is it down for patching or what? Cause I've never had an issue in the game working

[@belstar1128]

@@markmitchell153 The servers are offline often or they won't let me log in also these videos get uploaded on maitanace day a lot of the time and i play on weird hours (sorry for tipos but i have no time.)

[@markmitchell153]

@@belstar1128 ah all good. Was just wondering if it was a ff14 thing or just the way things shake out. Thanks for the info

[@thechartech]

Psh. Hot? Lemme know when it hits 115 F 😁😁

[@Draugheim]

He just kept dying, and summoning people? How did he not learn anything? Must be disabled in some way lol.

[@Koranthus]

That first guy kinda irritated me, not going to lie. There is a slim line between ignorance and stupidity sometimes. Not knowing and not trying to know is a big difference in how I view people. He asked no questions, didn't try to find out any information or anything. He just lived in his own world and did what he was told. Don't get me wrong, his guildmates were trash, it doesn't take long to level up your own warlock in WoD, in the 2 weeks he was filling in for, they could have easily caught up with a character, not to mention inviting a new raider and not even asking basic questions like do you know what flasks are, do you know your rotation, what spec are you? Just a shit show all around. You can be a casual all day, but there is a limit to how "in your own world ignoring everything else" you can be.

[@hickknight]

Let's be reasonable here, the guy was very young. He might also be in a culture where doing that would make people disrespect you. And tbh, everything I keep hearing from WoW sounds exactly like that. This isn't about his ignorance or stupidity, it's that the group itself literally never took the time to impress on the guy how different actual raiding is, to the point of needing to tell him to look up tutorials. He even had a girlfriend, and not much interest in the game to begin with. I think the group's behavior is inexcusable as a whole. But all of them were young and very likely inexperienced at dealing with these frustrations. None of them communicated at all to one another until the bomb exploded.

[@maevekirkland9452]

no offence. but this is a shitty take. if you are asked to raid. and you've done nothing but casual content up to that point. you cannot possibly expect it to be any different than casual content. they took him into normal, which he did fine in. then expected him to suddenly be a brilliant raider when they brought him into heroic or whatever.