Classic WoW - A Very Very Lost Preacher [TDP]

[@LesbianWitchAcademia]

I think the best thing about classic is watching Preach be reduced down to "I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. What's that? Where are we?" It's beautiful.

[@The_Way_Ministries]

I love it!

[@nhagan001]

It’s the genuineness of it all. Mike has done most of this, but is excited to see and reflect upon it all. Personally I don’t think I ever went to Gnomergan. Think I made the trek to Scarlett monestary over this dungeon.

[@Zabzim]

Nathaniel Hagan I can’t wait till he gets to black rock depths

[@MikeAndersson]

I just love how many pretend to like this shit… honestly. Preach have to tell him self and others "this is accually fun" he said it so many times throughout this clip just to try to convince him self its fun.. but watching this is equally fun as watch paint dry.. Extreamly poor gameplay and graphics.. press 2 buttons.. This "vanilla Community" trying so hard to show intrest and views.. classic gonna have like 50000 players after first 3 weeks then ppl will understand how lame this is...

[@LesbianWitchAcademia]

@SinisterMinister actually, it has everything to do with him being in classic, because there's no fucking reason for anyone to actually go to overworld gnomeragon, nor do you have to actually Pathfind your way through live gnomeragon. When is the last time you went to stanglethorn vale and took the portal to gnomeragon? Exactly. Stop being an ass.

[@BFDudes]

Preach: - A WoW veteran of 15 years. - Was a World First DPS record holder during Firelands. - Hugely popular WoW KZbinr/streamer with 10 years of active content creation. - World class player with many periods of being in some of the best guilds in WoW's history. *- Has no idea what an alarm-o-bot is.*

[@MaximumBooger]

Warning! Warning! Intruder alert! Intruder alert!

[@VelvetKitsune]

The sound of many wipes from anyone who has no idea what the hell is happening.

[@CapOfXav]

Or the mechanics of Thermaplugg.. you press da BIG RED BUTTTTTOOON

[@NateTheScot]

Did he not play in Vanilla or something? I can't remember when he started, but god damn this video was SO frustrating to watch xD

[@VelvetKitsune]

He definitely started in Vanilla, I remember him talking about Molten Core, though I think maybe being Horde since forever maybe has something to do with it?

[@godlyobject6509]

"Phrases like mega dungeon, used to just mean dungeon" - Preach 2019 This 100%.

[@radbug]

confusing because gnomeregan was in vanilla at launch

[@godlyobject6509]

@@radbug That's the point. This was normal in vanilla, nothing needed "mega" affixed to it; the dungeons spoke for themselves.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

Every "mega dungeon" was easily turned into about the same time as a non-mega. You would just skip shit by jumping off of ledges.

[@benoitrousseau4137]

To be fair not all vanilla dungeons were that big. Razorfen Kraul was about as large as a BfA dungeon. (Although it was way less linear.) I think the next REALLY large dungeon is Uldaman. I think it was even larger than Gnomereagan.

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

@@benoitrousseau4137 Blackrock Depths

[@TexasLotteryPlayer]

Best thing i like about Classic WoW, it runs like smooth butter on my computer.

[@emilgebl8644]

so does every wow expansion if you dont run it on a 50 usd pc.

[@James-cp9uh]

@@emilgebl8644 I think it would be better to compare it to private servers in this regard. Classic feels like a much more smooth and polished experience. As should any official Blizzard product.

[@remyllebeau77]

But that is not a genuine classic experience. You need to be running around with 10 FPS and always looking down at your feet to try to improve it.

[@Mythricia1988]

@@remyllebeau77 Maybe if you had a computer made of cardboard and sticks. I never had issues running WoW, not in 2005 and not in 2019.

[@mikehunt4607]

i always hated that about the zones after Cata. There was always FPS stutters in pandaria and newer zones

[@TheAssirra]

I demand a full BRD run when it comes out. i am ready for a 7hour video!

[@drmwatson15]

Agreed and it has to be from scratch, nobody with the key.

[@Davivd2]

36:34 that awkward moment when the rogue asks for recount and see's that he's the bottom DPS. I had forgotten for so many years that rogue's ALWAYS wanted to see recount, but NEVER ran the addon themselves. You would think the one class that's obsessed with their DPS would actually use the addon that shows their DPS. LOL This is an authentic classic WOW experience.

[@vaendryl]

when you class offers absolutely nothing in terms of utility, buffs, kiting, off-tanking, healing or anything of worth other than DPS, you'll start to get stuck on that one thing. the obvious marker that we're not longer living in 2005 however is that you didn't write "rouge".

[@Davivd2]

@@vaendryl LOL yeah. It took a while for people to learn how to spell the word. I remember a rogue named Rougemaster whose nickname on the server was make up master. The kid got so triggered by it and server transferred.

[@noobkaka567]

@@Davivd2 I misspelled my rogues character name and I didn't know untill TBC

[@_Kuma_]

Lol people still do that, drives me nuts... It’s so easy to just open curse/twitch and download recount or skada. 🙄

[@ineptginger5238]

They all have recount they just don’t want to be the one to link it. They’re asking because they can already see at the top. That’s why he asked for overall instead of current fight when it wasn’t showing him in the lead.

[@Jpeg-yz4xj]

Omg when he said "IceHUD" I literally got the biggest nostalgia kick of all time!

[@Krissam2k]

Back when we were smart enough to realize we needed our health/resource bars in the middle of the screen, but too dumb to realize that nothing was forcing us to have our unit frames in the corner.

[@aussiebloke609]

Classic: where it's actually _fun_ to feel like a noob again. :-D

[@jeffreycollins5428]

So true. A guy grouped up with ran from a pack of three lvl 10 quilbors in duratar laughing our asses off.

[@aussiebloke609]

@Shinela Just what I was thinking. It's actually fun to start over - or in my case, start from scratch, as I never got to play vanilla. I have just enough comfort level of knowing roughly what the map looks like, and how to move, and fight...but that's about it, so it's still a learning experience, while not feeling entirely like a fish out of water. And as a bonus, it seems much more about the journey so far - slower levelling, the thrill of looting greens, etc. - and less about hitting max in a few days and then grinding interminable dungeons and raids through however many levels of essentially the same fights. (Mind you, it takes patience and time, but I used to play Myst (without spoilers, walkthroughs or cheats), so that's all good for me. :-D

[@Jpeg-yz4xj]

It would be so great if you could keep that feeling alive forever! Unless they pull a OSRS style on Classic I doubt we will have that feeling for a long time though sadly...

[@LordMagamus]

I never knew of the transporter from BB.... until this beta lol

[@illuminatuz1]

Back in vanilla me and 4 other horde players ran from Booty Bay all the way to Gnome. Got slaughtered by gorillas and ganked god knows how many times, if we only knew about the transporter haha.

[@SailingtheSeas23]

Mike, your reaction to your quest reward says it all. Mmmmm

[@elementengine]

+5 Defense is so much cooler than 38346 Strength / 34432 Stam / 1103 Crit / 1248 Haste

[@youngkingdom8131]

It’s great to see you playing an MMO again. It has been so long!

[@MrFoulksy]

Young Kingdom haha under rated comment

[@youngkingdom8131]

MrFoulksy just a later comment posted hours after the video. Thus is the nature of KZbin.

[@VelvetKitsune]

"Oh this isn't the dungeon?!" Welp. I think I did that too yeaaaaaars ago.

[@YouTubeChannel-iq5to]

My god, I‘m so hyped for classic. Time to return to Wow BIG TIME.

[@positivepatrolleader4914]

The rogue bamboseled you all! You missed at least 50% of the dungeon. This LFG mind-set of rushing the last boss to get the extra experience lol. Here it's about clearing every boss to get those sweat sweat drops and xp (since quests aren't enought to carry you level to level).

[@_Kuma_]

Positive PatrolLeader I know this is 2 months old but for real! I don’t understand the path that the rogue was making them go. It’s good to get all the mobs on the way to grind xp... There’s no end of dungeon reward and bag like in LFG so I don’t understand the rush. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Also I realized how sad it was that I’ve leveled so many characters that I know every dungeon by heart lol (except old caverns... that’s a mess)

[@cas1652]

there are more than enough quests in wow, idk where this opinion even comes from. People skip whole areas full of quests cause they outlevel them from quests alone.

[@JamesFuston]

that pathing is one of the most faithfully recreated bugs I've ever seen. I remember so many different times seeing people confused why they couldn't charge, shoot, or heal through that archway

[@shikatsu]

Is that the one where you step in the middle lane and pull the whole dungeon?

[@kokeanikilator]

"a bit of a line of sight never hurt anybody" XCOM FLASHBACKS

[@ChichiNaka]

I can't grasp how you can do exclusively end game content for so many years you haven't even touched low level dungeons since they were essentially relevant content. Fun watching Preach though, it's nice to see a streamer seemingly do the content themselves and not just make a 40man raid to quest for him "lets get this done boys" while they're afk watching youtube

[@guyfromdubai]

Absolutely no clue who you could possibly be talking about Kappa

[@zelosjr]

Who levels characters in WoW anymore? That's what boosts are for.

[@ChichiNaka]

@@zelosjr I see the sarcasm but leveling was a top 3 pillar of gameplay for me from vanilla until around MoP era now it's so mindless and dumb, I miss rolling a fire mage and leveling with enchanting and tailoring feeling insanely different to leveling my combat rogue with mining and JC, all those choices from class to spec to professions added so much to the experience now no matter what class/spec I am it's just spamming '2' and the mob will die in exactly 3 frostbolts/mutilates/shadow bolts/lava bursts from 20-120

[@thecaneater]

You're lost in Gnomer? Wait till you have to walk to the entrance of Marauden or Uldaman.

[@zarakikon6352]

Don't forget Sunken Temple m8 😂👍.

[@Boldswords11]

.... I never knew that tele was at booty bay... I feel really dumb now

[@alexander1055]

I knew it was there, but I never knew what it did.

[@booyah719]

its only for Horde, Alliance has to hoof it there normally

[@kallmannkallmann]

Its a questline for it aswell, was in vanilla tho

[@nhagan001]

Wasn’t the teleport because the entrance to gnomergan is in an alliance area and couldn’t even be traveled to by the horde?

[@blaaablubber]

teleporter is just for horde

[@wildefice1]

its really fun watching preachers face light up whenever he does a classic tdp :) I can feel the joy in his voice it makes them really enjoyable videos

[@Rhodair]

I can't wait until Preach does classic Sunken Temple

[@SoundwaveSC]

What's the origin of your profile pic? I see it everywhere.

[@noobkaka567]

Maruedon is also insanely big

[@hunterlong1820]

@@noobkaka567 Mara is fairly straightforward though compared to ST haha

[@grumpyoldwizard]

Just dont let a Alarm-O-Bot get away. Those things used to aggravate the whole darn instance if you missed one. I remember my first run of this place. One of the bots got away and what it brought back looked like some sort of tornado/blender! It was scary and hilarious at the same time. We saw it coming and just ran like hell, though it got us in the end.

[@Volkain10]

Ahh good ol cast bar prediction where all your rogues blow their kick on the same cast because nobody can tell if the spell was successfully kicked lol.

[@waffleswafflson3076]

Fake news, interrupts are a DPS loss and rogues dont even keep em on the bar

[@bigfatmoo]

Well Gnomregan was supposed to be a Captial thats why it is so large.

[@Stimbim]

how about maraudon\dire maul\brd\urbs were they big because they were supposed to be Cap or what?

[@AiTheKitsune]

@@Stimbim Idk about maraudon and UBRS, but Dire Mual and BRD both are supposed to be Ogre/Dwarven cities.

[@naquan59]

Dire maul is more of a highborn city ogres just moved in and called it theirs.

[@naquan59]

High born elf city tbh.

[@Casiuss666]

@@Stimbim They were big because environment artists were working on the dungeons before it was even established whether they would be instanced or not. Initial idea was that multiple groups could be clearing different parts of a non-instanced dungeon. Source: WOW Development Diary.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

i think it is strange that people can forget thees instances. you sadly missed the Trogg event and the crowd pummelr it drops an amazing two hander also skipped the elemental

[@DiscordBeing]

the trogg event takes a long time and is boring af.

[@helvete983]

It's not strange it's indicative of the way the game has become, in Retail you outlevel Gnomer very quickly, and shorter dungeons are prefered, for repeat runs, it's all about the XP and leveling ASAP, nobody gives a shit about gear, It's been a long time since I heard anyone excited about a piece of gear leveling (unless you can sell it on the AH for a ton of gold) so to see someone genuinely love the dungeon and be genuinely excited about gear actually mattering is very cool. There are a ton of instances that will throw people in Classic due to the fact they've literally dumbed them down over the years or simply have never done them.

[@_Kuma_]

Helvete Heirlooms, although really useful to us veterans who want to get leveling done quickly, have definitely diminished the excitement of getting a new piece of gear. It’s usually just max level when that picks up again for me.

[@NoahMullins]

Welcome to the NEW MEGA DUNGEON!!* *Actually smaller than a regular level 30 dungeon in classic.

[@radbug]

im confused.. gnomeragan was in vanilla at launch ...

[@Nokiya]

Quality over quantity. Gnomeregan is just an empty wasteland with long corridors filled with auto attacking mobs

[@zsoltsiro1310]

@@Nokiya careful thats a 2004 design vs a 2019 one

[@nickmillet1]

if you keep going left at the start there's actually an event with a boss down a cave. I think it went for both factions.

[@nhagan001]

Yeah if I remember wasn’t it the troggs and the gnome blowing up caves?

[@DalaihLamer]

@@nhagan001 Yes

[@Blackadder75]

With a very cute gnome NPC.

[@mattbrown5511]

Mike went all creamy in his jeans at the end. You barely scratched Gnom.

[@TheRilai]

im sorry if that is a nooby question, but why is he wearing mail as a warrior?

[@seanmullin4736]

@@TheRilai Warriors can't wear plate until level 40 in vanilla.

[@chipskylark5500]

@@TheRilai you have to learn the plate armor skill at level 40.

[@TheRilai]

@@seanmullin4736 thx!

[@helvete983]

@@TheRilai Also something else you might want as a random snippet of information, you have to learn to use each weapon by skilling it up. I remember on many occasions getting a new upgraded weapon that I needed to go out into the world with and just whack mobs until I could actually use it to it's full potential. Also something else that may be of interest, don't be surprised to see plate classes like Paladins wearing cloth. Quite simply it's due to stat distribution. I believe they needed it for spirit or intellect, something like that, but Plate really had a drought on armor with those stats.

[@magniankh]

Thank you for talking about your addons! And for providing a link to them.

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

a full gomer run at appropriate level would have taken you around 90 mins depending on what classes you brought along, this group you have in this video was pretty much the ideal comp for it, but yeah there's 3-4 'optional' bosses in the dungeon that you can access via side paths along the main route, also it's one of the places if you have the time to spare, where killing all trash is worthwhile due to the loot pool of trash drops, they drop some phenomenal gear for the level and is well worth the grind, most of which is BoE so can be bought/sold if you can't use the item that drops.

[@helvete983]

IIRC there is quite a lot of high value BOE gear that can also drop from trash. Could be wrong but I want to say at least of a couple BiS twink items.

[@tompadfoot3065]

watching Preach go through Classic is getting me pumped to do it myself, his joy is so pure

[@johnercek]

"classic wow predates computers" - preach

[@aaaarg7053]

Yeah, missed a couple of bosses. Grubbis is kind of an event boss with waves of troggs which is pretty fun. Can drop some great mail DPS gloves for warriors/pallies, but not great for PVP/Tanking as there's no stam (unless health is no issue). The other missed boss was Manual Crowd Pummeler who's notable for his weapon being used by feral druids in endgame content due to it's on-use effect with limited charges (thus they farm bags of the things).

[@BorichaConsumer]

I think you missed 3 bosses. Techbot, Grubbis at the end of the cave event, and the pummeler dude.

[@ImACookieTasteMe]

most people skipped pummel since its so far off the path i myself didnt see people starting to do jump runs til wotlk i think

[@chrisandrews9856]

@@ImACookieTasteMe Definitely used jump meta during vanilla as I can clearly remember myself and others missing the cog fairly often xD I dont imagine the horde can do the grime encrusted stuff but you also have the punch card thingy, but I think that's just outside the backdoor. Edit: Saying that can you just murder the gnomes to get to the cleaners? Vanilla Alliance player so I cant really remember.

[@ImACookieTasteMe]

its hard remember stuff from so long ago my highest ally in vanilla was

[@Blackadder75]

That gnome lady that handles the Trogg invasion is so cute!

[@tomwow01]

rooted enemies (in nets, frostnova etc) attack their nearest/closest target, irregardless who has any threat. That is the reason the hunter pet sometimes got attacked by rooted mobs. Not sure if you lose aggro from far away enemies when you are rooted yourself, though (as seen at 27:28)

[@ckja1994]

I'm looking forward to having a purpose leveling as healer especially in the elite quest zones scattered throughout the map.

[@kallmannkallmann]

Levling in healing spec? Lol. For levling and easy end game dungs you only need a few healing talents if any.

[@RGC_91]

Love seeing you go through the nostalgia. Can't wait to do the same. I played vanilla as an alliance character so gonna do it in classic as horde for that new experience.

[@judefrappier1021]

Great vid Mike! Love the TDPs, nice pace to hang around with and share in the curiosity. Cheeeerss

[@fumitsukistarmist8773]

Wait until you do a full run of BRD that's a mega dungeon

[@bassisku]

Luckily you can split BRD into portions and do the quests for them. The upper side around 54 and latter 57+. The amount of quests there is just crazy.

[@jnorvilas]

Oh no, Magicheart has left the guild

[@Davivd2]

The last hall I was expecting to see some deaths or a complete wipe from the mines. Then the recording "mysteriously" cut out. LOL we all know what REALLY happened. :-P

[@UkraineJames2000]

I've been playing this game for over a decade, and I never knew about that gnomer teleporter in booty bay. Wow, lol.

[@danielwharrier1197]

Waiting for release for a Sunken Temple run :)

[@steevt304]

I am totally playing classic wow as soon as it's released in August. I've really been enjoying these videos you're doing and seeing the fun you've been having. It's so incredible this element of community is going to be coming back to gaming, particularly WoW.

[@chaleowin7732]

I don't think I've actually walked on to a boat. I've always jumped out of fear falling into the water.

[@hannahlanai]

Detective Preach: "what would closing a bomb look like?" LOL! As someone that didn't play Vanilla, I was happy to follow along and be just as confused as you. Can't wait for more Classic TDP's!

[@Don_Giovanni]

He's calling it the "mega dungeon" but he hasn't even seen half of it (in this run) :D Truly a mega dungeon.

[@thunderborn3231]

he was talking about mechagon saying how in BFA a dungeon half this size had the title mega when dungeons like this and BRD were just dungeons and outsize the 'mega' dungeons of today easily, he didn't even kill half the bosses in gnomer they did alot of skips

[@thunderborn3231]

@Argus The Unmaker and still less bosses than a dungeon in classic

[@afailable]

Anyone trying to heal or decurse in vanilla either used some kind of mod for raid frames or were completely carried through all the content they beat.

[@tripstowertcg]

I dont understand the ignorance of the anti UI crowd. There were many addons in vanilla.

[@DalaihLamer]

Yea right? They actually got me second guessing myself but I certainly used Titanbars and others in Vanilla. I remember when they broke decursive, an addon that basically handled dispelling the entire raid at the press of a single button for you (including target selection). People who say addons should be disallowed are idiots.

[@flech3025]

I think Preach missed like 3 bosses and the mini gauntlet thing but maybe thats alliance only?

[@mortisoculi8943]

Horde can do it, but everyone skips it

[@CapOfXav]

missed 2 bosses, gauntlet event trogg and CC pummeler

[@chaosparticles]

That moment where you say "Goodbye" and look up briefly at the end. You suddenly becoming aware that the rest of us are here, but you're in a game trance because you just experienced Gomer again and downed the last boss. Epic.

[@zarakikon6352]

Enjoying these Dungeon runs quite a bit Preach so Pls keep 'em coming 😁👍. Lots of "Oh yeah, I forgot about that" moments for me hehe 😂.

[@zadrik1337]

Omer was the first instance I ever tanked. I was a 30 gnome war. All the feels...

[@doommuncher]

Post a 14 part series of your gnomeragon research. I'll watch it.

[@_Kuma_]

Rob Noble And frame it like one of Shane’s docu-series. Like super serious camera shots of Preach just sitting there in a mess of papers, trying to decipher the maps he’s drawn and having to face the fact he’ll probably never find the true meaning behind the layout of the dungeon... I’d totally watch that.

[@HagalSkrymir999]

Classic has a lot of big dungeons. Gnomereagon, Maraudon is big as well, Lower Blackrock Spire is big and of course BRD. Most Dungeons i remember from classic are pretty big to be honest.

[@CapOfXav]

Sunken Temple

[@StingBear]

Wasn't there a water elemental boss in the cog room where they jumped down?

[@sydneycastle4341]

I've been waiting for this. Gnomeregan is my favorite dungeon and I've always been curious about what it was like in Classic. Thanks, Preach!

[@EnvoyOfFabulousness]

lol, it was one of the worst dungeons in classic. Out of the way, not too many quests and art-wise was one of the uglier ones.

[@sydneycastle4341]

@@EnvoyOfFabulousness Its still ugly, I still love it, beautiful disaster that it is.

[@EnvoyOfFabulousness]

@@sydneycastle4341 Haha fair enough. I feel the same way about WC, most people I know hate it but I love that dungeon because I remember spending hours in it as a kid and thought it was epic.

[@sydneycastle4341]

@@EnvoyOfFabulousness We are the kings of unpopular opinion but who cares.

[@berzerk4]

Yeah I forgot that gnomeragon is actually so much bigger in the original game that you gotta go through a micro dungeon just the get to the entrance

[@MarceloYuri]

For whatever the reason, I know the entire way around this place. No clue on why I learnt it. But I did and can do every. single. boss.

[@_Kuma_]

Marcelo Yuri Same! After doing it so many times, it’s kinda just ingrained in my mind... Too bad I get lost super easily IRL.

[@SandalTolk]

17:03 "no path available" - yes it is original classic. I think there where some edges in the dungeon/world design wich could not be charged over. This ones I remember totally :D

[@Doddleran]

I had a Zerg Starcraft 1 skin for a while in classic but it lacked some features normal UI had

[@sabamonstergaming]

I will 100% be using addons in classic. No question, just like I did the first time. On another note... something to point out. Look how much fun Preach is having. I honestly don't remember the last time his enjoyment was being thrown through the screen like that. Vastly different experience.

[@kevint1910]

IIRC the entire UI debate is PART of the "classic experience"

[@iceee420]

I'll never understand the arguement against addons

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

@@iceee420 Going waaay back, people saw it as cheating. An allowed method of cheating, yet still cheating.

[@youthanasia8767]

Dam was that teleportation thing always in vanilla? I never knew that or just don’t remember it being in booty bay. Although it was over a decade ago.

[@s1os2s3]

Gnomeregan is mostly identical on retail , what they cut is the part where you have to walk to the entrance because that part is made as starting zone for gnomes.

[@rofflezwafflez1023]

The most common addons people would use in vanilla were ui tweaks(probably the biggest were buff/debuff tracking and spell casting related), threat meter, and waypoints. What Preach is doing here is a more extreme version of UI moding that was happening closer to BC coming out than BWL but it was something people who raided in vanilla would do especially healers and raid leaders who needed to keep track of everything. Blizzard really needs to disallow the toddlers from having their DBM and quest helper mods. You had to remember what the bosses did and keep track of it in your head(unless you wanted to set a manual timer every time for something like Hakkar) while communicating it to your teammates and playing your role. If that is allowed to be removed the game itself has been removed and they should just cancel the release altogether.

[@Rave.-]

*kills Fallout* "Wait, did we kill a boss?"

[@pellonwraith]

that music dude....brings it back :D

[@Rebella1337]

X-peal was the best UI in classic and TBC ^^

[@Dropaprayer]

I know you meant x-perl, and yes, you are right!

[@_alex_y.not_]

Protip for y'all aspiring tanks btw: Battle Shout generates a very good amount of threat when you use it and will generate more threat than a Demo Shout if you hit just one party member with the buff. Very good way to maintain threat on big AoE pulls and can be much more efficient than tab-Sunder-tab-Sunder in bigger packs.

[@Enema27]

Yeah. A great opening combo in general used to be pull with ranged weapon, then blood rage and battle shout your whole party.

[@Tibbroar]

Shh quit sharing all our secrets!

[@_alex_y.not_]

@@Tibbroar Honestly just watching Mike not pop it during big pulls is hurting me. T_T

[@LukesGamerRoom]

Oh gnomergon the music still gives me nightmares

[@vlad3k]

i still haven't heard anyone mention the dungeon maps we are all accustomed to DO NOT EXIST in classic. you only had the minimap and the rest you had to remember. ( or search for a specific addon, but most people didn't do that )

[@deimees3828]

"Only ever played classic just before tbc so never really got to play. But so excited to be able to play it. Big question though is if I go Allie. I want to be a gnome tank. As I love the char looks etc. Big thing. So if I don’t go human for the 5 wep skill or nelf for the dodge increase. Will it really cause the havoc of getting into groups at end game etc that much

[@maxburgess9353]

That moment when trash drops an item and you have the window pop up to roll 'Need' or 'Greed'...I couldn't tell you that last time I saw that. Man I feel old...

[@Intossicato]

The OMG moment at the end about the quest loot was epic. I stopped having those in retail when the titanforged/crappyforged/random socket came into the game. Even if I get something I always think... Oh it could have been better. Recently the best times I have had in WoW has been on the stress test server.

[@isntyournamebacon]

"I'm concerned about the hunter pet" yeah you bet! :D A fun way to wipe tho imo.

[@24timesyou]

Awww man, "Jump on the cog down stairs" that took me back...

[@draphking]

"Where the fuck are we?" Gnome lore summed up in a single sentence

[@Rhodair]

Oh dang, they only completed about a third of classic Gnomer; maybe a quarter if you count the boss outside near the back entrance portal (had they gone right at 7:00) - that's where you get the 1st key card and eventually progress to having the key to Gnomer's back entrance. It's something I always liked about classic Gnomer - sure, it felt oversized when you're first learning it, but eventually you reach a point you can pick and choose the content kind of like skipping the living side of Scholomance. Classic was great at giving players agency like that.

[@joecorne5361]

17:00 I distinctly remember that happening in this area in Vanilla (and most likely BC/WOTLK as well). Certain places in different dungeons were notorious for "unorthodox" pathing and mob pulls. Not sure if they should leave it in but it's true to the original and not a new bug in Classic at least.

[@serenitynow606]

God I love seeing preach enjoy classic

[@marcusgaius]

26:08 bottom left takes you to a boss, top left takes you to the last boss.

[@aerodynamic6560]

I really hope you do get to know all the tiny quests and extra stuff you can do in this dungeon. Really feels like a capital city size wise and with all the stuff you can do if you know how.

[@MrTuas]

I heard battle shout gives more threat than thunderclap, is this true for classic? What i heard was that it gave threat for each party member buffed (including pets).

[@shhfiftyfive]

how to run cvar script (nameplate distance) so i don't have to copy paste it in every time i log in to any character???

[@blech71]

I remember as a mage I would flame strike two different ranks to get the front loaded damage and dots going then I would blizzard.... did they take it away? Or does it just rip too much threat at lower levels?

[@welshman100]

There is a lot of extra bosses and secrets for you to discover :) Would love to see you clear the whole place.

[@solmartig]

you missed the first 2 bosses one when you jump down to the cogwheel and one when you dont jump down and keep runing through that corredor. then you run down to a bunch of safety boxes and can open them with they punch keys

[@misterbrady100]

How did you handle stance dancing? Did you macro stances into abilities, or did you map stances to certain keys?

[@shanclesfreakazoid3502]

Each point of +Defense skill adds 0.04% to the player's chance to be Missed, to Dodge, and to Parry, before diminishing returns are taken into account, and adds 0.04% to the player's chance to Block with no diminishing returns. This means +25 Defense will grant you an extra 1% Miss, Parry, Dodge, and Block. The formula is constant across all classes.

[@Fox_Onii-san]

Good ol Preach. Never loot, never stomps.

[@astrealove1]

Gnomes outsmart a Preacher by building a confusing city.

[@mozzy1696]

Hi Preach, Recount is not in the google doc. Is there a separate link for working recount? Thanks

[@alicianielsen8101]

I had no idea Horde accessed Gnomer that way! TIL. I just always assumed you had to do a death sprint through Khaz.

[@helvete983]

Ha ha, many of us did :)

[@likaro15]

Was that bb teleport really there in classic or did they add that for the beta?

[@scrummpybear]

i mean we did have some addons but generally most did indeed use the blizzard bars and just had extra things like raid frames and auras.

[@tRapdontRap]

I still remember grinding scarlet and getting ganked by horde with my friends on our first alts when I was 13-14. 26 now and still remember it like it was yesterday. Fucking great times

[@lexzbuddy]

There were add-ons by the end. At the start, there weren't even websites with info. You just asked other players. Beyond that, good luck. I didn't bother with any until the burning crusade. Nothing wrong with them, they're handy. Gnomergan was fun in the day. Hope you're enjoying yourself. I hope you got the Hydrocane :)

[@Barb4sale]

Does the new ROTH UI work? (Diablo 3 theme)

[@ragnarbaron6090]

Preach classic wow player did a bunch of server first back In the day but thinking about coming back. Played a warrior and hunter. Any chance you will be building a guild for 40 mans? Would love to get back in