Precision Bass Gets a Zero Glide Nut Installed

[@jasonmartin8467]

I think most of the posters here are not fully understanding the concept of the zero fret system. What it does is it gives you a consistent tone and makes your open strings sound like they are fretted which is what you want in the studio.

[@MtM2253]

The pick ups are Lace Alumitones.

[@sk8board_blues248]

MtM2253 thank you, was just wondering about them. Just the sound I'm after!!

[@AttilaThebung]

Bloody good pickups - I have a Lace Deathbucker in a Rhoades V and it sounds super tidy

[@DriveCarToBar]

and they can be adjusted wider to fit a 5 string.

[@handidrummed]

Every time I see a bass strung like that I always assume they're guitarists who decided to learn how to play bass, but never took the time to learn how to properly install the strings.

[@kthwkr]

For decades I have used a sharp 4B pencil to put some lubricating deposits into guitar nut slots. (HB will work but the softer the lead the better. Even a regular pencil is better than nothing.) String popping during tuning is gone. I reapply it with every string change. It's a little messy but so am I.

[@Zero_thehero]

Like how the dude wraps his strings and thinks the gizmo will solve his problems

[@TheRobman]

You gotta give the guy props for creativity at least, lol

[@kthwkr]

He's doing that string wrapping technique that is supposed to stop the winding from slipping and string going immediately dead. Problem is it's hard to put on and hard to get them back off. I have always found that if I just use lots of turns I have no issue with wrap slippage. But I'm mostly guitar and perhaps bass has more issues with wrap slipping. I dunno. Plus I also mostly use hex core strings.

[@adamarcadegames]

"We could take a look at the instructions... But that would be no fun."

[@erickleefeld4883]

I love the Zero Glide, and would recommend it to anyone who needs any major nut work or a replacement. But yeah, Dave is right, this is just as much work as any standard nut installation, not the easy infomercial the company sells it as. So don’t go for it because you think it’s easy, do it because you like the final result.

[@grantbrown8047]

Dave shows he's a gentleman, anyone else would say something else

[@howardmaryon]

“Tippy tap tap...” tells me that you know of another heroic Canuck, AVE.....

[@kristop2288]

Dave, You reckon he wanted that added for 'tuning stability'? When all that was needed was the strings to be wound on the peg correctly? Cheers for all your vids. I've learned a lot mate!

[@urbanweekendwarrior7238]

shhh, just take their money, fix their problem, and don't embarrass them by explaining the root cause. You haven't screwed them (you fixed it right?), and they don't feel humiliated by their blunders, so everyone's happy, and dave eats dinner.

[@gregg4164]

Your correct . Winner!

[@ericdavidson1793]

Love your videos Dave. Nothing like crowning frets while listening/watching to you work along side me.

[@paulsummerside]

Clearly strung by someone used to stringing a nylon strung classical guitar. Well, this video really puts me off using this kit. This kit is the recommended upgrade for a Hofner Ignition Bass. Can honestly say I would be looking at a different solution.

[@Kurecify]

Lace pickups are great. I installed one in my musicman replica for 80 euro. Sounds awesome

[@danmcleod7365]

Dave, I have been watching your channel long time, good info very entertaining . Gotta hafta have more of you choppin it up on the bass, you are just teasing us . Great work , have a happy new year .

[@rjmcmooseknuckle]

Beer n Dave!! Good times :)

[@s76fitz]

i have seen PRE-CBS Fender Factory ORiGiNAL Precision Bass Nuts cracked off at the E string side . Every one i saw HAD survived untiL the earLy-to-mid 1980s .

[@MrLouo]

Great video Dave.

[@evhwannabe6590]

Two daze in a row! Thanks Dave!!!

[@evhwannabe6590]

Dave's World of Fun Stuff Nothing but love for ya’ Dave! Always love your videos, sorry “Big Brother” is altering your comedic persona by flagging you. Your older vids in a more “altered state” are the reason I subscribed! I still watch everything because you teach us on a level that doesn’t insult the limited, but enlightens the more advanced. Cheers to you, and a very Happy New Year to you and yours!

[@tomkirk6942]

Right on Dave. Happy New Year brother!

[@s76fitz]

! H N Y 2018 ! you son of a Sea-Cook , you !

[@s76fitz]

i am a KOOK that Cooks . ? Hows by YOU ?

[@gregg4164]

thats one quick sure fire way to Fuck your bass up.

[@dantanner1721]

Happy New Year brother, always look forward to your videos.

[@boilingpaul]

Jesus, yesterday Gibo's robo-turd. Today it's a zero fret....it's like sombody's out to get you Dave....damn!

[@headknocker8999]

Happy New Year Dave!!! Lace Aluma Ps

[@clgbatman]

I'm putting one on my squire strat now. I had to do some mods, Nothing to big but it wasn't cut in dry.

[@isaacbowers9493]

Nice work again Dave

[@053DAX]

all that and a $5 bridge

[@iggyb63]

Babicz all the way !

[@TomTobin67]

Yes, that's like putting $500 tires on a $500 car. 😅

[@wr3ncher]

iggyb63 squier p with babicz bridge, brass nut.

[@pcbullets8726]

Looks like a pain in the ass, fun times! Cheers!

[@Attercop47]

it sounds so good , I hope it's not going back to the person that tied the knots in the strings , take care and Happy New Year

[@blkjckgtr3075]

Nice job Dave you would think they would use bone instead of flimzy plastic,Happy New year,Cheers and Beers.

[@MichaelMcGlynns]

“Plastic bullshit” made me laugh.

[@TheBeatle49]

As far as I understand, a zero fret helps solve the problem of sharp intonation on the first 5 or so frets. Ukuleles and a lot of guitars need them badly IMHO. Basses, I don't know.

[@ebbeollman1198]

I made my own Zero Glide with a piece of hard spruce and a ordinary bit of fret wire on a Korean built Stratocaster-lookalike with a slab vintage style fingerboard. I know I shortened the scale length ever so slightly but the difference is very small. The string height over the first fret is right on and will never change. The guitar is easy to tune and holds the tuning very well.

[@simonkormendy849]

Tried installing one on my Gibson USA LP Studio guitar and it was a PITA to get right, and I found that the zero-fret ended up with grooves in it due to the string tension (the frets they give you should really be made out of stainless steel cause the metal they're made from is a bit too soft), it didn't help with the tuning stability of the guitar, it actually made it worse.

[@onemanswrld]

Goo...goooed in there? Yep, thats what she said...😊

[@scottbangoarce4836]

As me mate from Yorkshire says: "Wha' a load o' bollocks!"

Why?

[@sixsentsoldiers]

Sounds good. A PBass.

[@Gordanovich02]

Seems like an awful lot of futzing for minimal benefit. I get along just fine with Graphtech and Tusq nuts, if they've been cut correctly, but if you have to have that metal-on-metal open string tone, what's wrong with a brass nut?

[@alanburgess3453]

Dave, have you considered using a dust extractor and do all your sanding over a downdraft sadning table ?

[@TheChef470]

Dave I think you would have spent less time and had a better end result by making this yourself. The product appears to be garbage. Really enjoy your humor and your skill......nice combo. : )

[@Furtheronmusic]

How did you file the nut? They sell them as giving a super slick glide over the nut, if you burr the fret thing in lowering it doesn't that negate that?

[@stoutlager6325]

Man that looks fiddly.

[@therickashesoloband]

DAVE!!!! how the heck ya doin!!! hey i keep forgetting to ask you... what gauge do use to adjust the truss rod.... have a great new year!!! cheers!!

[@kdrake777]

Dave what is your favorite short scale bass?

[@roamershaker]

Question?? What type of pickups are on this bass ????? they sound good ..; thanks

[@sira.scottascot8865]

They look like Lace Alumatone pickups. Seem cool. I haven't played them.

[@parasiticthoughts3558]

MIM BY THE TRUST ROD PLUG

[@bazjones7349]

I seem to remember you fitting one to a guitar???

[@martinchamberlain8948]

Dave, if you don't mind me asking, where do you source your SM77 cyanoacrylate glue? I can only find it on an website from Italy.

[@martinchamberlain8948]

Thank you, Dave. Happy New Year to you!

[@mooseteets]

i gooched up a zero fret, glued in the nut and forgot to put the fret in properly first, i like the idea but its fiddly to get it all to fit right.

[@onpsxmember]

The reason why it is a bad idea is just that it is a cheap gimmick. Good intentions...bad execution. It's just to have an "easy to install" alternative instead of a real zero fret (which is a nice thing imo, but isn't really an after market option if you don't want to glue in a piece of wood ) And you see how it comes out of the box. Only achievement: Giving a good idea (zero fret) an even worse reputation. Everyone wants something changed on their guitar, but without changing anything about the guitar. So no holes can be drilled, no piece of wood can be added. If you put in the time to do it right it pays off.

[@mooseteets]

yeah i agree wholeheartedly. what i ended up doing was putting on a tusq instead, and all that needed was a tiny bit of filing in the E slot, easy peazy

It's not "easy" to install, but it achieves it's intentions once installed.

[@gazfunk]

Whats the point of this mod? Could someone enlighten me? lol

[@paulmicrons8416]

Blind like was the name of a song from the 40's .

[@CakeHIre]

Hi. Just as an aside ... Iv'e had *a few* and find your postings quite ASMR. zzzzzzzz ...

[@samstinkeringaround8961]

Chunk that thing gooch street

[@justinandsheba]

Where the hell do people get the idea to string their instrument that way?

[@tiki_trash]

When I saw the thumbnail it looked like you were cutting big lines of coke, lol!

[@wr3ncher]

Is this not the same concept as having a brass nut?

[@erickleefeld4883]

Yes and no. They're similar in achieving the same tone between open and fretted strings. But with a zero-fret, the nut acts only as a guide for the horizontal spacing of the strings, while the fret sets the height. The nut slots actually go down further than the fret itself, so the strings never even touch the bottom. Brian May has a zero-fret on his guitar that he made with his dad, and he attributes some of the stability of his whammy bar to that nut system. And while he has a headstock with three strings on each side, it's really narrow so that the path to the tuning machines remains almost dead straight like on a Strat.

[@TomTobin67]

That's a really nice sounding pickup. What brand is it?

[@fonkamex]

Lace Sensor

[@erickleefeld4883]

@@fonkamexLace, but it’s their Alumitone line, not the Sensors. Sure sounds good!

[@gdscott8276]

Facepalm emoji. Jumped in without thinking it through? Two things: 1. Next time, try a couple of supplied frets in there and string it up BEFORE you glue it in. Then you may not have to work on the fret in such a confined area. One of the smaller ones would have worked better. 2. See how the strings fit in the slot before installing it.

[@airtow6766]

So what's so wrong with the original Fender nut that you need this monstrosity?

[@mirekgoldberg6045]

You can buy a much better correctly made zerofret retrofit with no installation hassles. Zerofret concept gives way better tonality than traditional nut. Instead of zerofret retrofit, you can replace your original bone or graphite nut with a metal nut with non-binding notches, thus giving you zerofret tonality.

[@MelodylaneLou]

a container of all these shitty parts..... lol

[@Epiphone100]

Useless mod of the year ?????

[@mr7wi]

Right up there with robot tuners

[@onpsxmember]

Ever played a guitar with a zero-fret? (while this is a pseudo one)

[@davekiddie4467]

Why

[@rickisaac1391]

im curious what the total cost of the part and Daves labor is for this totally useless mod

[@MikeGervasi]

Dave, I have one waiting to go in a Strat. Worth it or waste it?

[@erickleefeld4883]

I like zero-frets. I've got a bass and an acoustic guitar that each use them, and I appreciate the consistency of tone between open and fretted strings. My Strat needs a new nut, anyway, from all the abuse I've put it through of string gauge changes over the years. Think I'll be getting this put in.

[@onpsxmember]

I've still got a zeroglide gibson style laying around. Videos like this really motivate me. Work to do? Just everything that could be wrong from the get go. I wonder what the fretwire is made off. Zerofrets have to take a lot of abuse. But you can't just replace the fret, cause the tang is off-center. In a perfect world, the guys from graphtech would make a decent one.

[@ijosef]

@@onpsxmember The last time I checked, the frets included with the Zero Glide are made of stainless steel. This definitely improves durability over the more common nickel alloy.

[@onpsxmember]

@@ijosef Originally, they weren't stainless steel. That's why you can buy replacements from stewmac and goldtone. It seems that it's now an option. That makes it more interesting. Thx.

[@kennjrgensen9021]

argh, fitting a nut is my least favorite thing about DIY guitars..... I always end up dropping the damn thing, or getting really short fingernails....

[@samstinkeringaround8961]

That looks like a big pain in the butt. Why would he even wanna change the nut when there’s nothing wrong with it?

[@divehater]

Shitty plastic "nut" with a fret directly in front of it? What problem does this address?

[@TheColonelKlink]

Next week new from Gibson. Robot nuts!

[@maxpuppy96]

those are a pain in the dick, and not worth the effort, I always talk people into a nice bone nut.

[@markmeloney2643]

how many of you can honestly say you hear a tonal difference between an open note and your first fret? if you do you either have a shit nut or better ears than i do

[@lambert1702]

OMG, what a fucking stupid solution looking for a problem! Would never do this to one of my instruments,

[@me5ponk454]

What is the potential to screw this up?

[@tizwicky]

Things I learned today, I will NEVER use a Zero Glide Nut! What a POS....

[@offbeatbassgear]

And practically speaking, what measurable advantage does this provide? And I mean what difference it really makes, versus what it claims to do.

[@lambert1702]

No benefit. The only thing does does is lower the resale value. Total dumbass modification.

[@papa_gummybear]

Who's the biggest fattest guy 😂

[@themanfromphoto]

James Jamerson and Joe Osborn never needed a "zero fret". Waste of time and effort.

[@RaymondJoe100]

Ive never used it and dont feel a need to but damn; lighten up my man the zero glide isnt hurting anybody lol.

[@GuitarlosCarlos]

ASSEMBLED IN DA USELESS GUESS N GO TECHNOLOGY JUST LIKE SEA HORSES ~ YOU GOT IT DONE DAVE CARLOS GUITARLOS 90042

[@jamesfriestad3164]

I'm so glad I don't try this stuff at home.

[@bradleycoffin1767]

So all that bullshit is gonna make the guy the best bass jerk in his neighborhood. Wtf!?

[@jomomma8291]

Who even thinks up shit like this? I guarantee it was someone who doesn't even play.

[@jomomma8291]

A dude who might know a thing or two, maybe. Point taken!

[@erickleefeld4883]

Ned Steinberger doesn't play guitar, either. And all his instruments in the '80s used a zero-fret system. (Traditionally made from scratch with a distinct fret and guide nut, not a retrofit like this.)

[@onpsxmember]

Have you ever thought out how to put in a zero fret as a retrofit? You'd have to fill the nutslot, maybe even glue on some kind of extension to have some meat for the -"string guide". It is a good idea for those who'd like to have a zero fret on their instrument, they just fucked up the product itself. If you think about a zero fret in the design stage, it's even easier to do than making a nut. Pros/cons (no particular order): +open strings sound like fretted strings + lower action in the first frets + intonation problems: zero +helpful with bigsby vibrato (while a roller nut would be even better) +either lasts a liftetime (stainless steel) or is as easy to replace as any other fret +Try to make a 12-string guitar with a compensated nut or just put in a zero fret (saves a lot of work) -If the zerofret and the string guide behind it don't work well together, bending can seem odd. You start bending, the string still moves over the zero fret until it hits the side of the string guide. Some describe it as harder. So the zero fret is a potential problem for the company if it isn't done right. -workers need to be told how to make them to enjoy the upside...it seems it was easier to show them how to make nuts with shitty action so nobody can complain about buzzing. After the sale, nobody cares. With the zero fret, you don't have to adjust the nutslot height, cause the fret determines the height. If it's not done right, buzzing is easy to achieve (sales problems could be the case) It's probably a German Invention. Brand who have them: Düsenberg, Gretsch, Hagström...and if you know about Django, maybe you've seen some Maccaferri Guitars that have them too. If the zero fret is the same height as the other frets, it's a "real" zero fret, than there is one with more height. When you play at the third fret, you don't have contact with the second fret. That's how the "real" zero fret works. The higher one is easier to make but big upside in the intonation is rather a compromise.

[@gregg4164]

Who the FUCK strings a bass guitar, Like that? WTF.

[@patrickmay9034]

Over engineered to phuq . Saw a video of some Floyd Rose clone for guitar that was as ridiculous in design and set up easability !! . Whoever designed this deserves to be gooched for the sake of mankind.

[@markmeloney2643]

so basically.. this thing takes away your ability to choose the height of your nut slots, and moves the theoretical nut position forward slightly, thus messing up your intonation.. just get a warwick justanut III

[@2DclanSnipingTeam]

Doesn't move anything forward. The guide and the zero fret are in the nut slot, not in front of it.

[@michaelpietzsch]

zero glide is what you get when u forget to put lube on...

[@StonyRC]

Damn Dave, that sure is one "Zero-Useful-Glide" piece of crap. Sorry you get roped into installing such a piece of shit - why do people keep buying these unnecessary gizmos?

[@GenericSpace]

Personally, I think a zero nut is a buncha crap. Just intonate the damn thing and learn how to play. There is no financial substitute for knowing your music theory.