talking about the amber hilberling story Amber hilberling committed suicide
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@Itsachapel4 жыл бұрын
Physical abuse against males has to be taken more seriously.
@krystallovesclassics5084 жыл бұрын
So very true.
@Tatortot3184 жыл бұрын
I was beat and degraded with cancer, but survived, thank God the women came forward to defend me in the divorce...It's rarely noted being a male
@TabsAdvocating4BrknFamilies4 жыл бұрын
Amen!! Yes it does!!
@thequintessential55034 жыл бұрын
dennis luck I’m sorry you had to go through such miserably with that woman. That woman seemed demon possessed. I’ve lived with a woman family member who was bipolar and being pregnant was pure Hell.
@loriannrichardsshinn67144 жыл бұрын
U are insane
@leagueG53 жыл бұрын
Amber ended up killing herself. The child is the one who really has to suffer. 😞
@willie77293 жыл бұрын
The lawyer give her that deal. 🤔.
@b-dalebarksdale3483 жыл бұрын
Sad!! 😢
@moonchildluvsbobcrane3 жыл бұрын
Her family claims she was murdered
@ceciliadelance86003 жыл бұрын
Yes
@felixfischer3123 жыл бұрын
Sad always for the kids involved in this to live wirh .
@richt57424 жыл бұрын
The thoughts going through his mind while falling, damn I cant imagine.
@b-dalebarksdale3483 жыл бұрын
OMG!!
@TX_b3 жыл бұрын
he probably was over run with adrenaline and blacked out honestly.. ideally. so sad man.
@b-dalebarksdale3483 жыл бұрын
A horrible way to die 💔😢
@Fallibleandflawed3 жыл бұрын
Cant imagine what!!???
@bridget51803 жыл бұрын
God willing it was a quick fall
@LisaD0074 жыл бұрын
I believe she had to have pushed him extremely hard to actually get him through a window. End of story.
@janetbenning26454 жыл бұрын
You took the Bs side. I won't watch you again.. or subscribe. You should have waited until you had time to do it properly
@Patprond-mj2es4 жыл бұрын
@@janetbenning2645 well what do you believe happened?
@tanyamarieroberts61754 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause if she see him losing his balance hold so he does not go out the window.
@marthadgreen82164 жыл бұрын
Spoiled drug addicted brat.
@vonniewright43854 жыл бұрын
He’s also forgetting that she was completely not caring and reckless at what she was doing to her unborn baby. Then she pushes her husband out a window? Drug use makes the user not care about human life.... Prison was right where she should have been.
@KimmiePatts5 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the child. I hope he has a wonderful life despite what happened to his parents.
@lisaperuzzi3894 жыл бұрын
Hes with his grandparents ambers family and hes happy
@jacockistitsworth93924 жыл бұрын
@@lisaperuzzi389 living with grandparents is different, from personal experience. This story is similar to what happened to my parents.
@lisaperuzzi3894 жыл бұрын
Very true but levi despite everything ues happy
@kimberley55924 жыл бұрын
Who would expect that glass to break..l mean really though..was she that strong to push him that hard??
@oliverclothesoff82123 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the little boy died in a car accident last week. RIP 😭
@TrackstarBEATS3 жыл бұрын
Damn how thin was the window, usually tall building should be made out of strong Plexiglas
@justacrusaderguy33203 жыл бұрын
"usually"
@KarlaHolland3 жыл бұрын
It is an old buildings. Looks about 50 years old.
@letsplaymtmbarbieshow48213 жыл бұрын
It makes no difference glass or plexiglass, when windows and their “frames” in high rises are new, it’s a nice tight fit. As Lamont made the point this building is 25 plus years old, all buildings “Settle” and continue to “settle” for a good 50 years. In settling, the tight fit of every part of the building slowly shifts. As it settles things are not tight and strong when the building is new. Part of this, is seasonal weather. In the cold everything shrinks, in the summer everything expands year in and year out. There is no way to keep a building like new, Mother Nature sees to it that she runs the show. She takes opportunity to cause as much havoc as possible in every corner of the world. The window / window frame no doubt was not the fit it use to be, glass or plexiglass are still subject to the earth / building settle and Mother Nature struck at it with her bitter cold, intense heat, bad weather and the sun beating on it every nice sunny day.
@msladyyoung68193 жыл бұрын
Them widows shouldn’t even be able to open being that high up
@letsplaymtmbarbieshow48213 жыл бұрын
@@msladyyoung6819 nobody wants to live inside of a tomb, in stale air, living space needs fresh air, Normally people don’t get pushed or fall out of high rise windows.
@Xscapeplan015 жыл бұрын
Now that poor kid has to deal with it the rest of his life!
@Lylo-mj8ek4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you James, The Son should have been her main concern.
@lisaperuzzi3894 жыл бұрын
Her son is safe with Amber's mother he knows what happened
@tinotse20074 жыл бұрын
@Dmac 740 So she Sufficated herself. Yeah Suicide
@hulkstrong90924 жыл бұрын
James facts 💯👈.
@tinotse20074 жыл бұрын
@@hulkstrong9092 Questions that will never be answered
@lorettarushing34985 жыл бұрын
Bad relationship get out dont fight just get out.
@dr2stroke6114 жыл бұрын
Josh had tried to get out that day. His bags were packed ready to leave
@alanleemaxwell8314 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@maridonis63084 жыл бұрын
@@dr2stroke611 leave unannounced
@psychictruth50374 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@psychictruth50374 жыл бұрын
@@maridonis6308 😆👏👏👏👏👏👏
@diana68424 жыл бұрын
My daughter rented an apartment there on the 24th floor and moved out a couple of years before this happened. The building is nice and clean and has a real retro/mod vibe - though dated. They have a huge indoor pool in the basement that practically no one used, but it was kept sparkling clean. I would go over there to swim 3 times a week, but only once was there someone else in the pool. The building is built from a newly invented, (at the time) lightweight concrete material.The elevators are in the center of the building and each apartment is pie shaped so every apartment has a view. My daughter's apartment had a beautiful view of the river. I was worried about the very short balcony railing off her dining area. Scared me silly that someone might accidentally fall over. A friend of mine was an EMT and worked Mr. Hilberling's death. He quit after that.
@ibleedblue05184 жыл бұрын
Hey Lamont you brought up a good point when u said that at the time of her suicide she could have been out if she would have taken the deal and she didn't.. That probably haunted her and she thought of that in her mind so maybe in her own mind she felt that if she just ended her life it would have been like being free and gone from prison in a way
@LamontAtLarge4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@ironmaven17603 жыл бұрын
interesting thought...you may be right..
@bridget51803 жыл бұрын
She mentioned in the dateline interview wishing she had taken the deal.
@a.m.thomas93663 жыл бұрын
Did she take her life or was it a suicide ?
@winterfoxx31812 жыл бұрын
@@a.m.thomas9366 That’s the same thing
@tyler4961215 жыл бұрын
She killed somebody and get a sweet deal of 5 yrs and she turned it down? that was stupid.
@emilybooth54955 жыл бұрын
she's dead now she actually died in prison during her sentence
@BlackAnvil475 жыл бұрын
Karma is a cruel mistress you do not tempt
@nford21604 жыл бұрын
She took her life in prison.....
@stephenhamon67444 жыл бұрын
Check out my comment relating to deal, not as obvious you think, tick box if you agree deal or not.
@Itsachapel4 жыл бұрын
tyler496121 I think she wanted to do more time or die
@millinjefferson28954 жыл бұрын
According to Find A Grave Josh Hilberling is buried in Hillside Cemetery, Sedgwick, Harvey County, Kansas. His memorial was added to Find A Grave March, 2020.
@neverthesame78874 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. No matter how hard I try, I just can't squeeze out any tears for Amber. For Josh, I am horrified and so, so sorry that he died---especially in the way he died. My prayers also go out to the families...both families.
@James_follows_Christ3 жыл бұрын
Both sides were effected
@trinbryant5557 Жыл бұрын
Lamont clearly has that covered restraining order drugs while pregnant and all smh he has his picks
@MrMelgibstein4 жыл бұрын
and the building shook.Either Josh was a very heavy boy or that was some shoddy construction.
@Laffy13454 жыл бұрын
6'6" YUP about 250+
@MrMelgibstein4 жыл бұрын
@@Laffy1345 Groundbreaking
@jacockistitsworth93924 жыл бұрын
@@MrMelgibstein that's a good pun, I feel bad laughing at it though ngl
@MrMelgibstein4 жыл бұрын
@lana lake You are right,the firefighters could not walk outside and in some videos you can actually see the bodies falling outside the lobby windows.
@melvawages71434 жыл бұрын
@Marie Tulsa is known for tornados even if she pushed him by surprise that window should not have shattered. A tornado wind is a lot stronger than any human push.
@patbowman67235 жыл бұрын
I remember this story. You are 100% right, there are no winners in this case.
@1whocs4864 жыл бұрын
She killed herself an couple months ago ... Very sad ..
@tonyarceneaux2864 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the kid.
@patbowman67234 жыл бұрын
@@tonyarceneaux286 I do too. There are no winners when it comes to murder.
@lakeisharobinson21324 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@jacockistitsworth93924 жыл бұрын
@@tonyarceneaux286 growing up with no parents does suck, from personal experience, especially when you witnessed the death. PTSD sucks
@OhMasters.3 жыл бұрын
Such a sad story.. My Dad lives 2 miles from that apartment, So I remember it very well. My condolences to both families 🙏
@nathanb59233 жыл бұрын
What a horrific way to die. I can’t begin to imagine the sheer terror the man would felt as he begun falling.
@donnarupert49264 жыл бұрын
That’s a creepy looking building. I can’t believe there’s no tempered glass🤨
@reidecember53724 жыл бұрын
I would not be surprised if after this, that became law.
@dannyanderson65154 жыл бұрын
Tempered glass breaks easily into a thousand peices. Did you mean laminated glass?
@sunshinesweetlove82383 жыл бұрын
It’s weird how the building sits on the car port.
@chuckgates11713 жыл бұрын
Plexeglass.
@queendee86563 жыл бұрын
Fr Tho
@racheldianeames37295 жыл бұрын
rip the husband whom was pushed to his death out of the window by his own wife
@waynegacyii90103 жыл бұрын
6'6" Military Man. Still wasn't good enough for her to quit drugs , and for her to be a decent wife and mother.
@psw47635 жыл бұрын
To push someone out the window is horrible. If someone is caught off guard it does not matter who is tall or short. Kind of like a sucker punch did not see it coming. A bad situation all the way.
@jessicalteats5 жыл бұрын
Phyllis Wurm Qatar
@maryellengrayberg91464 жыл бұрын
I agree SUCKER PUSH is more like it!
@IZRElLO7474 жыл бұрын
Exactly what a cowardly thing to do
@neverthesame78874 жыл бұрын
Phyllis, that's a very good point.
@daughterofkingjesus73505 жыл бұрын
Not painting any kind of picture. But this wasn't a match made in heaven. His family seen it first before he did. Take time to know people these days. That was a really big fall. 🏯
@kiara1989234 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@purpleviolet2074 жыл бұрын
@@kiara198923 Same here!
@heatherbowlan19614 жыл бұрын
I never heard this story very sad , you sound like you may have known him ? God Bless us all .
@selinazollman62503 жыл бұрын
What did family see before he did,?, like them obviously looking at her side ways didnt cause them marital problems
@LadyYella3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@larauch132 жыл бұрын
So very tragic and sad. My heart goes to their son. The fact that the glass even broke is terrifying. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
@nancycaballero22975 жыл бұрын
How sad, hope their son achieves great things in life.
@jacqueline37823 жыл бұрын
Me too, although not likely
@gailjackson-chapman70855 жыл бұрын
By him marrying her, he signed for his death 💀. If she was abusive why did did he marry her. You can’t change a drug addict. They have to want to changed themselves. Very say case.💔💔💔💔
@mikeandmars23455 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@dcl17784 жыл бұрын
M. Di Federico You just said it. Some cowards run away and don’t take responsibility for the children conceived. That’s were the real problem begins.
@gailjackson-chapman70854 жыл бұрын
kindinot exactly
@gailjackson-chapman70854 жыл бұрын
M. Di Federico this is not true. You have some mothers stronger than their spouse. The kids are not program cause they are not robots 🤖. Once a child reach adult age, parents are not responsible for their actions. I know some ppl whose children who went to church every Sunday and turn out to be a beast. So, you can’t say single parents. Children who have both parents turn out to be beasts too🧐😳🤔🥺
@stephenhamon67444 жыл бұрын
To correct you Josh was giving dishonourable discharge from the Marines for taking and supplying drugs. Whilst staying at Amber’s parents he was caught using drugs and both had to leave as her parents do not approve of drugs in their house. They let them use the high rise flat until other accommodation was ready. They were only there 2 weeks before the infamous fall. Also Amber herself was hospitalised as a result of Josh’s temper. On the day in question early in the morning Josh cracked window pane in bedroom hence why window repair man was present at time of incident. This is not a story of good boy, bad girl you have been led to believe!
@Pebbles08312 жыл бұрын
I remember this story! RIP to Josh ! Condolences to the family!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@carameldiva7asmr4155 жыл бұрын
That’s horrible, and I hope their son is well taken care of by loving people.
@susanmarcotte88325 жыл бұрын
I understand that couples fight. But to do bodily harm to someone is still wrong. And you pay the price for what you do.
@hairsprayguy844 жыл бұрын
The KZbinr probably beat his wife went to Prison SO this is his way of Repenting
@hollyblain88994 жыл бұрын
This story was truly heart breaking. To push someone out of a window is horrible . If it's a bad relationship just walk away. Your life is not worth it!!!
@BlackAnvil475 жыл бұрын
I lived in a high rise building with similar windows. While living in the building a husband and wife fought and the husband a bruiser of a man. Slung his wife into the glass cracking the glass on the 17th floor.....Do you realize how hard she had to have pushed him to go through that glass? Damn!!
@freedomfirst55574 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the building codes of the day.....AND weather they followed them. They might have used window glass that was not upto specs to save money or the code for their use might not even be in place at the time.
@tinanealon7334 жыл бұрын
Have you read the story about the attorney who ran and hit a window multiple times - and one day it just all came out. Most things weaken over time.
@SamanthaSmith-we1vy4 жыл бұрын
They did determine that the glass in that building is very thin. The building was built in 1964 and windows had never been replaced, they were all originals aside from those that has been cracked or broken over the years. They were single pane thin windows from the 60's. Honestly, I see that building every day as I work right by it and the windows still look like the originals.
@MiguelHernandez-rw4xu4 жыл бұрын
@@tinanealon733 That happened in Canada if I an not mistaken
@lorig70774 жыл бұрын
That's why Noone should never push people on windows
@markthrasher67703 жыл бұрын
"He said/She said" means the woman is the abuser and everyone's too scared and PC'd to say so.......
@lauriestewart37005 жыл бұрын
Who raised her son? Married or not. No one should EVER put their hands on anyone else in anger! So sad.
@smurfmaxineblue68335 жыл бұрын
Her mother has her son.
@ronbaxter9405 жыл бұрын
No one should ever strike another in anger unless they're absolutely sure they can get away with it.
@frankpaya6904 жыл бұрын
Now you talk like YOU were there! Besides that, with women's lib, you can't have your cake, and eat it too. you can't claim you're just as tough and competent as a man, when you're a woman. But want all the chivalry traditionally associated with being the weaker sex, when it's going to be to your advantage.
@frankpaya6904 жыл бұрын
@Judi Gracefor all you know, nobody did.
@alanleemaxwell8314 жыл бұрын
@@frankpaya690 Equal rights, Equal wrongs...
@MsCoco-uy9cm2 жыл бұрын
My home town born and raised I sure do remember this case. So sad rip to those involved 🙏🏾 😢 💔 😞 🕊🕊
@tyler4961215 жыл бұрын
Even if she did take the deal she still could have been sued by the mans family for wrongful death.
@miltmarhoffer78293 жыл бұрын
Hi lamont. Usually, hearing these stories is a real bummer. But dude, your videos are TOTALLY fascinating!!!! Keep up the good work and keep us all interested. I will be looking forward to your next video!!!!
@teresasmith8695 жыл бұрын
I do not feel sorry her going to prison. Her death yes, she left a child without a parent.
@guygrip21204 жыл бұрын
This whole illusion is about remorse to learn loveforgive all is alive on next level.
@kookoom20933 жыл бұрын
Remind me of Amber Heard. She abuse johny depp and manipulating
@kfsolt5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes love is so intense between two people that it winds up going wrong. I believe that neither one was emotionally mature enough to talk through their feelings rather than screaming and allowing things to turn physical. The real victim in this story is unfortunately their son. Thank you so much for sharing this. 💔
@esthermelchor96815 жыл бұрын
Another real victim is the guy who got pushed and is now dead.
@jamsla26355 жыл бұрын
Thats called a toxic relationship, def not a healthy or mature one.
@kristypaigetheriot58194 жыл бұрын
That's not love. That's domestic violence which ended in murder.
@quinny69204 жыл бұрын
There is a fine fine line between love and hate. Been there and it can be scary
@gretchennelson99654 жыл бұрын
Blu Nation Kind of like John and Paul. Fortunately it never got that bad,but it was definetely intense and somewhat toxic. I know Paul still misses him.
@wandavia18625 жыл бұрын
SHE ON DRUGS SHE PUSJED HIM OUT THE WINDOW HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE MARRIED HER
@BlackAnvil475 жыл бұрын
So you've never did anything stupid out of love?
@rm48614 жыл бұрын
I've done stupid stuff... But never murder...
@RickElizz4 жыл бұрын
Hormones during pregnancy make some women insane.....Psychosis is probably the cause she acted that way.
@lisaperuzzi3894 жыл бұрын
Incorrect amber never did drugs
@hairsprayguy844 жыл бұрын
Lisa Peruzzi how do u know?
@MichaelFAL5ON5 жыл бұрын
To death do you part, it should go to divorce do you part. 😣😭
@robinbrl5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, marriage is a joke now.
@williebernardrenderiv6344 жыл бұрын
Criminal mindedness and mental and emotional sickness in toxic relationships it extends in all so-called relationships married or otherwise such as in the case of fornication (two people in a relationship but not married, same sex marriages, etc.
@williebernardrenderiv6344 жыл бұрын
I might add that a healthy marriage between man and women where true love and respect rule supreme is not a JOKES!! but a Blessing. On the other hand if two people put themselves together for shallow reasons and it's all base on the physical (looks and sex and benefits etc then it is a big time JOKE!!! And lots of people should not be in a relationship at all much less getting married, but to do so is a JOKE!!!
@dcl17784 жыл бұрын
“Until the first sign of violence do us apart”. 😓
@YlvaBjarnson4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the fear that went through that young man's mind on his fall down 20 something stories. I know that just in one second your mind can go through a hundred thoughts. He was leaving her and had a packed bag at the front door and she went nuts. The reason I believe she meant to push him out the window is that she started running from the other side of the apartment to gather speed and then pushed him. That's why I believe it was premeditated in the blink of an eye. While serving in prison she committed suicide. Her mother is raising their son. If it was my son I would not have let her family raise my grandchild because of how they raised their daughter that is a murderer. I would have fought tooth-and-nail to get that baby boy. Everyone remember when you're young that looks are only a small portion of what you need in a mate.
@southernrail42543 жыл бұрын
This comment is 💯.
@Harley083 жыл бұрын
Parents aren’t at fault for the choices they’re children make when adults.
@keetahbrough2 жыл бұрын
you're hard and numb. all situations require an emotional component... in reality.
@juansantiago49132 жыл бұрын
Parents dont got nothing to do with her daughter doing some dumb shit smh
@poodlemom1109 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember this story d way u described it….
@SandraMontano-si3uf5 жыл бұрын
I wish he would have showed the husband's grave too
@mrsTraveller645 жыл бұрын
s m why?
@SandraMontano-si3uf5 жыл бұрын
@@mrsTraveller64 I really thought he was going to do it especially sence the poor husband was the true victum. So very disappointed in Lamont not doing this !!
@mrsTraveller645 жыл бұрын
@@SandraMontano-si3uf but what pleasure would it give you to see his grave? A stone with some flowers..
@SandraMontano-si3uf5 жыл бұрын
CamWell
@SandraMontano-si3uf5 жыл бұрын
@@mrsTraveller64 Well, I guess it would just seam to be the respectful thing to do.
@sabrinasiggers16024 жыл бұрын
Damn. That poor kid is going to grow up without their parents. It's so sad. smh.
@rubykhan44515 жыл бұрын
I feel so sad for the son. He is left without both the parents. 😢
@fleekgirlttbeaut3875 жыл бұрын
She wasn't thinking about her unborn baby when she killed him nor was she thinking about her son before killing herself it's a shame R.i.H josh
@jacquelineroundtree75415 жыл бұрын
What a dummy that girl should of too the deal
@frankpaya6904 жыл бұрын
Actually he's probably better off without them
@tamalahall74794 жыл бұрын
@@frankpaya690 I AGREE.
@carryon24064 жыл бұрын
I live in Tulsa and remember when this happened! And Every time I go downtown I see that building and think of him😔
@danicefutral64145 жыл бұрын
I live not too far from there. Honestly she would have really had to push him hard to get him thru the window. Those windows are not easy to break. They have to withstand high winds and other stuff. She really pushed him hard. It wasn't just a shove or a push. She had to really shove and push him hard. He was a big man. She was a truly mean bitch.
@rollsroyce73855 жыл бұрын
Priscilla Futral of course..she did that to him on purpose..
@lady41915 жыл бұрын
The Windows were single pained and weren't up to code. Just saying
@mr.intensity26854 жыл бұрын
@@lady4191 In a high rise? I don't believe that. That's tempered glass. Just like a glass shower, it can be hit with a hammer and not break. Hit the edge, however, and it will shatter. Most likely is it may have had a weak seal which could have led to a catastrophic failure.
@Abandonsoyciety3 жыл бұрын
@Nina Cal yeah but I bet she hasn't pushed someone out a window to their death. Then tried to lie about it in court to dodge responsibility. Ironic she hung herself she could lie to everyone around her but not her conscience.
@gaildonaldson69664 жыл бұрын
I remember being glued to my television around the time of the trial/verdict & seeing her being interviewed from the prison. Even 'We Canadians' couldn't get enough! Thankyou for covering this Lamont If not for your update on this story, l wouldn't even know that she passed away! Who knows.....Maybe both young lovers found the peace together in death that they couldn't achieve in life 🕊.....thankyou Lamont. Love your channel ❤
@julianengine42265 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the true crime locations. Very interesting.
@desireelomax87113 жыл бұрын
Abuse is not okay no matter what gender,
@PKStefanini5 жыл бұрын
Her poor son. Thanks for once again as always presenting this case with sensitivity and respect as well as sticking with the vital facts. Her family thinks she was murdered. I read details of her life in prison, and she very well could have been murdered. So sad for all involved.
@ardensinn60044 жыл бұрын
You are so compassionate, Lamont. God loves you.💜💜💜💜
@crystalgrose4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Lamont for your time and effort in doing these videos for us. I know it isn’t an easy task all the time. Just want to tell you that your work is appreciated. God bless 🙏🏾
@BR-cq2hm5 жыл бұрын
That's probably why she took her own life, she probably realized at the end of 2016 that, had she taken that deal, she would have been home soon. But thinking about about two decades made her snap.
@jamiejai56505 жыл бұрын
That was my 1st thought too.... that 5 yrs then suicide was no coincidence. She finally realized how long that next 20 was gonna be
@frankpaya6904 жыл бұрын
Well, happy trails to her
@lindalogan84604 жыл бұрын
@@frankpaya690 Hello Frank. Your comment sucks.
@kidkully4 жыл бұрын
I read Amber hillerling’s autopsy, she ended up shitting her pants 👖💩 when she hung herself
@bleirdo_dude4 жыл бұрын
@@kidkully That's why one has to take a pre-death crap.
@cindybeatty45965 жыл бұрын
Hi Lamont! This is the first I have heard of this awful tragic story. You did a great job presenting it to your audience. You answered all of the questions that I had on the case. Very sad, nonetheless. Thank you again. I look forward to hearing more from you! 😀
@amythomas11245 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lamont for this story. I agree with you. Sad for both families.
@bevmillard44863 жыл бұрын
Her mother must've hired an idiot for an attorney! Even for manslaughter which I believe it was meaning she didn't intentionally try to kill him she was offered 5 years in prison and her ignorant attorneys said to take it to trial and she got 25 years? Maybe post the name of her attorney so NOBODY ever uses those fools again. Sad all around. RIP to both Amber and Josh. 💔
@mandykay70425 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Amber! Rest in Peace Josh! I pray your son peace and understanding.... ❤
@keepingitrealandtruthful.50814 жыл бұрын
Amber doesn't deserve no peace.
@Transit_my-way4 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Amber? Fuck that bitch
@stephanienatour99484 жыл бұрын
Did you hear the story???
@fondaproctor90345 жыл бұрын
Yes I am very familiar with the case. It was heartbreaking. I am so glad you put the facts out there. 💜
@rtstvnsn5 жыл бұрын
I recall this story very well, he was a soldier whose wife pushed him out the window
@evewright11024 жыл бұрын
Sadly an unfortunate accident and now a little boy has lost both his parents even before he new them. So Sad
@jai71843 жыл бұрын
Murder not accident !
@MRWILL-vh8lq5 жыл бұрын
Great job Lamont. I'm wondering if the son will ever see this video. Tragic in all aspects.
@wongjamir2435 жыл бұрын
N. Im sure we'll someday his son should see how his mom was evil rip better be in some good adopted parents
@debbiepaskin93784 жыл бұрын
I hope the son NEVER sees this!! But no doubt he will somehow 😡 Very sad and damaging for the lad if he does see this.....what good would it do? Such a terrible sad thing for the families...🙏🏻😢🇬🇧 Hope the lad grows up and forgives both parents and Does not blame himself!!! .....which could be the case! RIP both mom and dad.......🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@thepiperofsimms99744 жыл бұрын
Hi Lamont, thank you for putting this together for us. Appreciate the effort done during your travels. Yuma,AZ.
@shannondbrown15525 жыл бұрын
I remember this case very well. I saw the story all over different stations. She was trying to hurt him that day and shouldve gotten worse.. There was no abuse on his part. The next door neighbor and several others stated they heard them often arguing where she was the aggressor and heard them that day. Josh kept going back to her because he loved her and wanted to make it work for the unborn kid. He had refused to press charges previously when she assaulted him. Her behavior was witnessed by both their families. Her mom had the nerve to justify her behavior and felt she shouldn't go to jail for his death. He had packed his bags,called his father to pick him up and was leaving that day. I believe she was pissed daring him not to leave n flipped out. She tried to say she was next to him arguing while he was messing with the tv, he was ignoring her rant n that aggravated her so she pushed him. The neighbor said it sounded like she was yelling from another room at a distance away because he could hear running charging like cattle at him right before the crash. She pushed him on purpose n had to know how dangerous and forceful that push would be to him. She told her grandma in the holding room she pushed him because she was so pissed ,his parents said I would kill him if he didnt leave n I did, her grandma had to tell her to stop talking because she was telling all the business. He had a restraining order against her, not the other way around. She commonly assaulted him, not the other way around. She wanted that extravagant apartment, so he got it for them. Her family was wealthy,which is how she made bail so quickly. She was an entitled, spoiled brat who threw tantrums or assaulted him when she didnt get her way.. Its ridiculous to say her small frame couldnt be strong enough to push him, if he was distracted,not expecting it and she charged him clearly that would make the push more powerful and fatal as it did. She came to court smiling and waving like a Texas beauty pageant contestant ,she thought her money and looks was gonna set her free. Her susie homemaker appearance was to manipulate the jury to think this lil sweet southern girl could never. I think she killed herself because she couldnt handle jail like most brats,cowards or psychopaths and surely the inmates were not nice to her. She arrogantly gambled and lost. That 5 yrs they offered was a slap in his family's face. Had she been a battered wife I wouldve been all for it but that wasnt the case,she was the abuser. I think karma came to collect,now his family has justice.......shannon b
@barbaramollmann59905 жыл бұрын
Thanks for scoop, figured there was more to the story.
@psw47635 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and saw this story on a couple of different stations. What you stated is what was said by the reporters and interviewers. I also saw the video with her mother and grandmother as well as the interviews with Josh's family. Young love is not always the right love.
@christentaranto72535 жыл бұрын
Karma will get you back!
@shannondbrown15525 жыл бұрын
@@barbaramollmann5990 Of course, you're welcome..didnt like how he was trying to make her innocent n the victim.......shannon b
@nana-x95 жыл бұрын
You got it correct. The one that is suffering is their little boy. From all the reports, she was a spoiled brat. Always got what she wanted. Did they meet at a party? For some reason that is in my head. I believe he had been in the military. Not sure which branch. He really could not afford that apartment as you stated. My heart to the little boy. Do you know who is raising him? I would assume his parents.
@lyssah8192 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the child. His mother killed his father. Then killed herself. I can't even imagine the issue that child will have throughout his life. God, bless him.
@dawnglosson16025 жыл бұрын
You always do a great job Lamont 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Faiith19643 жыл бұрын
Sad on so many levels
@kenn19364 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lamont for sharing this video. Its a tragedy, and it does not end there for the son. He has to live with the knowledge of this tragedy and losing both parents not even having one sibling to relate to. Just on his own.
@carolynjonas47275 жыл бұрын
I remember and followed this story ...what a sad sad story..Thanks for the video Lamont :)
@rattychickTishy4 жыл бұрын
For a building so tall to Not have double glazed windows that’s despicable on the buildings body corporate, his family should have sued the building owners regardless under public liability
@kristielael26705 жыл бұрын
Very sad case all around. Just curious- Who has the Baby Boy? My heart goes out to him :(
@wednesdayaddams14735 жыл бұрын
Amber's mom. She has full custody of him
@mrsTraveller645 жыл бұрын
@@wednesdayaddams1473 the dads parents should have get the baby.
@lisaperuzzi3894 жыл бұрын
Amber's mum
@Shalinny023 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Hansen yeah she committed suicide in 2016 after she gave birth already
@stephenhamon67444 жыл бұрын
In loving memory of Amber and Josh Hilberling Part 1 of 3 I am responding to a TV documentary shown on C4 ‘woman who kill’ shown a few weeks back in the UK. One of the examples included the Amber Hilberling case in which she described her story and included various comments from Mr Dave Walker of the Tulsa Police in the US. From listening to this case I was struck by her account and the unusual manner and circumstances that this case came about; specifically how the Tulsa Police handled it. What was so disturbing to me is how such a seemingly harmless environment could end in such a horrific tragedy. The police were quick to rule out any possibility of unintentional killing immediately once a secret recording in the police investigation room was taken with Amber and her Nan. This resulted in Amber receiving a draconian and Inhuman incarceration sentence of 25 yrs, without giving an opportunity to raise a defence for manslaughter the most plausible cause based on the evidence. This compares to a recent case in the UK where a man who had history of abusing his wife (and previous woman) repeatedly assaulting her and eventually killing her and disposing of her body. He received 20 years with possibility of applying parole after serving 10 years on murder 1 charge. In Amber’s case her conviction on murder 2 was based on a single momentary ‘push’ lasting no more than a few seconds of her life, with a history of relatively low level of domestic abuse between both parties. I was deeply saddened to learn at the end of the program that Amber had killed herself (allegedly) leaving her orphaned son to have to grow up with the thought his mum had murdered his dad? How could this happen in a modern civilised country who values justice for its citizens as a corner stone of its existence. I felt that I owed it to Amber and her son Levi to investigate further and come by the full tape of the secret recording comparing with Mr Walker’s live comments in the program. Following on we know the decision to go for a murder investigation and not homicide (manslaughter) investigation was taken before the infamous secret recording was listened to by the homicide detective Dave Walker in charge of the case. On camera he made it clear that once he heard Amber state she killed him he dismissed any thought in his mind it could have been an accident (unintentional as defined by manslaughter). From this moment Amber’s fate was sealed and ultimately led to her death be it by suicide or murder which itself is in serious question. From my own observation of the flat, two things struck me. Firstly how innocuous and safe the crime scene appeared. As a 65 year old would I have been aware of the hidden danger, Josh and Amber likewise all three of us have no prior experience of living 25 floors up. There is history of both parties involved in domestic abuse, and pushing each other would not be uncommon. Secondly the tv is set away from the window as taken from Amber’s account. Could she have really expected to believe he would have travelled and ended up going through the window. Would any 19yr old (man or woman) be expected to know the window would be that unsafe, her focus was on Josh messing with the tv not the window. This leads to another problem, in the recording she mentions pushing Josh against the wall, from her position what was she seeing. When investigating such things as plane crashes for example the investigators are trained not to have any preconceptions and there role is simply to find the truth first and make findings afterwords. Note the difference here with police investigator where there role is more opposite and they start from a position of assessing culpability not from a position of neutrality (ruling in innocence). This is a common misconception from people who have never had dealings with the police. An Air Crash investigator would start by resetting the stage so to speak, so for example what was the pilot seeing. With regard to Amber the window was half obscured by the blinds, the left side remained drawn part way and the right side torn away as a result of the fall. Josh himself is a large frame and would have occupied the remaining centre space, towering over the small frame of Amber. Also the light would have been affected, Looking at the room with the window fully exposed the room still appeared dark to me. Was a re-construction of the crime scene carried out. I think not, because in Mr Walker’s mindset he was satisfied this was a murder investigation not a homicide investigation. In his head he had a murder and a murderer all he now needed is evidence to join the dots. This raises serious concerns on the way this recorded material was treated. Mr Walker mentioned this was about as close to the truth as you can get “that is the most truthful I seen in that room”. I agree but you can’t play devils advocate here and pick what truth you are accepting and disregard what truth doesn’t fit your murder narrative. As a recording the whole picture has to be read and interpreted truthful, Mr Walker must avoid playing God with the truth. When a person is in a state of shock and trauma they are likely focused on the consequence and not how the consequence came about. She was saying this when she repeated “I see him falling and hitting the pavement over and over in my mind I can’t stop it”. Take example a car crash caused by Amber driving a car with Josh the passenger, a heated argument ensues and as a result she looses control and Josh ends up dead. Her immediate reactions is to blame herself “Oh my God I killed him”. This is not a confession of murder but part of processing the information. Mr Walker’s response should not be, ‘I heard she was arguing with him whilst driving so I realised then we had a murder investigation’. Your getting the truth but not all the truth. Remember this happened little more than hour ago when she was holding Josh in her arms, a person she clearly loves, the father of her unborn, and where she had no motive to want him dead.
@fernandacazola29453 жыл бұрын
Y
@rayraydewitt25965 жыл бұрын
A match made in a Heaven or a match made in Hell
@265hemi73 жыл бұрын
😈
@eastwood10263 жыл бұрын
My prob is if it was the other way around. The male wiuskve got bashed and would’ve been guilty from the start without question. She needs to be held accountable
@sandrawaltrip8735 жыл бұрын
Great job! I’m glad you did the video! Thank you! 👍🏼❤️🤗
@evilqtip70983 жыл бұрын
Talk about marrying the wrong woman..
@diannaralston98775 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lamont..great job , I only live 45 miles from this..and every time I drive by this my thoughts go to the gentleman that lost his life..
@truthseeker21375 жыл бұрын
Me also. I'm about 25 to 30 minutes away. But have to pass here sometimes to go down town. So sad.
@call28724 жыл бұрын
It's never a good idea to reason with a drug addict. They are not of sound mind when the urges strike. Poor man. He just got married, he is gonna be a father, he has his whole life ahead of him, and he died in the most agonising way. This story is a tragedy.
@P51D-Mustang5 жыл бұрын
Hi Lamont, There is nothing wrong with this video you did an awesome job thank you!
@dianebaugher39193 жыл бұрын
I don't think a body would shake the building-if it did, I'd move lol
@kaylacade73185 жыл бұрын
Love? Sureee it was...his spirit came back and got vengeance...I feel sorry for the baby
@aprilbrewer86824 жыл бұрын
I'm a 49 yo disabled combat vet. I served in the US Army I was with the 101st Airborne Div. I was caught in an IED blast while doing a foot patrol in Karbala provodince Iraq. I just wanted to say thk u for doing what u do. U r always very respectful 2 the deceased n their families, loved ones n friends. I've buried many friends gone too soon life cut way to short but for love of God, country, n family. Having said that not many have that kind of respect anymore. So plz know I salute u Mr Lamont n I thk u. U r amazing plz keep doing what u do 👍😁
@matildadhumxoxo58014 жыл бұрын
And I guess that the husband “tripped” on Amber’s hands and miraculously fell out of the window!?
@sexysergeant1235 жыл бұрын
I sold building products to contractors for years and I don’t know why that wasn’t tempered glass in that building. That window was inches from the floor, what if their newborn fell through the window? Plate glass at that height is negligent, I wonder if the owner was fined?
@LamontAtLarge5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@sexysergeant1235 жыл бұрын
Lamont At Large sweet! Thank you for your reply, I’m honored.
@nana-x95 жыл бұрын
With being in Tulsa, OK, that tall of a building, & tornado central; I also wondered, during all the reports, why the glass was not a stronger type?
@sexysergeant1235 жыл бұрын
Nana Cole x6 Exactly! If you watch the Dr Phil episode, you can see just how low to the ground the windows are.
@frankpaya6904 жыл бұрын
@@nana-x9 it's not shatterproof. if you're heavy enough, and have enough momentum you can still crash through it, if you hit it hard enough. if It hadn't been up to code, you would have heard about it.
@bellarose62184 жыл бұрын
I followed this case. Her Mother is still fighting for Justice against the towers. Rip Josh n Amber💔
@IZRElLO7474 жыл бұрын
There is something more to this story because it takes a lot to break a window in a high-rise and she supposedly slung him into the window where he fell thru, It just doesn't add up, why don't people LEAVE if they are abused?
@pattishumateanderson46335 жыл бұрын
Very touching and you handled it with grace and dignity.
@robinbrl5 жыл бұрын
I do remember this story. As you said, nobody wins in these situations. Very tragic case. I feel bad for all involved.
@marymcguffin93704 жыл бұрын
Your such a good person not taking sides but telling their story. Great job as always
@galaxysalaam5 жыл бұрын
Interesting but extremely sad 😢. In life there are always ups and downs when it comes to relationships. The best option in a situation like this would be to just walk away when the relationship starts to turn from bad to worse and never to return. That way you won't get hurt. Shame on the grieving familes and the child left orphaned😢.You have done a great job covering the story Lamont. Keep it up👍
@isisbeck23742 жыл бұрын
Why does people tend to have more pity for women who abuse men?
@mallorygibbons49753 жыл бұрын
I saw this story on Investigation Discovery. She was saying "I didn't mean to push him" n her grandmother was with her in the police interrogation room like "shut up-don't say that". So sad. Poor kid has no mom or dad now.
@sherrywoody60232 жыл бұрын
Wow a very sad and interesting story. That poor man, I wonder what went through his mind he had to be terrified. Rest In Peace. Thanks again Lamont for another great video. Be safe..peace and love🙏❤
@lilebb16572 жыл бұрын
Love the way you tell the story.❤️
@SM-vk7dk4 жыл бұрын
He was so handsome & looks like such a nice guy! His poor family.... :(
@blueblaze98624 жыл бұрын
I kno! What a dumb bitch...he should have married my ass
@debbie57929 ай бұрын
Thank you for all you do. 🙏🏼
@mikebaddest47305 жыл бұрын
if this woman have the mind to push his husband that means is a beast
@glennlittleton37623 жыл бұрын
What?
@silc.10025 жыл бұрын
Lamont yours came from the heart and was done beautifully paying homage for both 🌹🌷💐
@captainkirk25023 жыл бұрын
I agree
@helenspencer98474 жыл бұрын
Why wasn’t there safety glass in place? Very unsafe for children. RIP guys
@red5wormy1654 жыл бұрын
If he was trying to get a restraining order then that means he was afraid of her.
@jennifermiller24203 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lamont- you do an amazing wonderful job
@hlsot5695 жыл бұрын
NOW THE BUILDING IS HAUNTED!👻😱
@ED80s4 жыл бұрын
Imagine then other residents in that building knowing that the windows are not sturdy?