“Theory Can Be a Limitation-I Like to Look at All of the Possibilities” Crypta's Tainá Bergamaschi

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@BobbySpiessVienna
@BobbySpiessVienna 2 жыл бұрын
Really like her style, and totally agree that "workin by ear" and inner feelings go far beyond and deeper than technichal theory. Who cares about a million notes per second, if you can't remember a melody afterwards? Me... not. Crypta solos are ones that imprint in your mind, like for example James Murphy's for Obituary did... Outstanding "newcomer band"! Love them🖤
@guydammit3287
@guydammit3287 2 жыл бұрын
She's great. So talented and humble at the same time.
@MURZBO
@MURZBO Жыл бұрын
Such a talented guitarist. Amazing 👏
@bartekbartek4067
@bartekbartek4067 2 жыл бұрын
Really like her approach if it comes to compose and writing riffs and solos….. she’s treating her instrument to express her deep inner feelings and ideas, REAL Musician! Not like most of nowadays meme/tiktok/insta piece of shit! Grettings for all
@chiscogti
@chiscogti 8 ай бұрын
Her secret weapon is being humble, calmed and modest, i loved her when i listened her playing but when i listened talking i notice she is a really beautiful person
@dirtyduster
@dirtyduster Жыл бұрын
I just saw them at the Regent and they were really good. Great show, lots of energy - awesome guitar playing!!!
@Metaltech80
@Metaltech80 2 жыл бұрын
Tainá is great 🖤
@benlogan430
@benlogan430 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you can play is based on theory. Musicians think it’s better to do things without know what we are doing. But it’s always better to use the noodle. Knowledge is not hindering, but rather freedom.
@friedrudibega6384
@friedrudibega6384 2 жыл бұрын
You need to learn the language of music to be able to work with others. You only hurt yourself by being willfully ignorant.
@ScottFuckinRitchie
@ScottFuckinRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
It unlocked doors for me! It’s just tools in the toolbox! The best thing about theory is that communication is easier. It’s a language. If everyone knows the language, things move much quicker.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
@@friedrudibega6384Tell that to Eric Clapton, Jimmy Hendrix, Slash, George Lynch, Paul McCarty. If you train your ear and know how every note of your instrument sound it will be no problem at all. Training your ear is more important.
@6zippo0
@6zippo0 2 жыл бұрын
@@friedrudibega6384 Well said.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 2 жыл бұрын
@@edselrivera2085 once again every musician you stated has or had a knowledge and grasp of music theory.
@OldManTenno
@OldManTenno Жыл бұрын
Fantastic musician, and I love her style. One thing I really like is how she finds ways to incorporate clean passages in some of the songs. They can be relatively simple, but adding that little touch makes the song better overall.
@todayfortomorrowyesterday7840
@todayfortomorrowyesterday7840 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that some in the so-called "music theorists" community are so unjustifiably defensive towards Taina's comments. Their unfounded stuck-up attitudes literally prove her point. All she was saying, is there is a community of clowns that try to claim a monopoly on "how to write music" and she doesn't want to subject herself to their foolish attitudes. Literally, the "music theorists" that post here, demonstrate they have no idea what "music theory" actually is. What a grievous offense, thus now my aged arse comes to you out of my woodwork, I am here now - let me school you. Music theory bears no outright hypothesis to warrant such a title. Only on the principle of the concept music can "come from anything" is what earns it any "theory" tagline. Otherwise, it's simply a language for music. Consider thousands of years ago, someone goes "you say things, how can we remember what you say?" then "I know, we make symbols for the words! Write it on something!" that's all "music theory" is. A language that serves to transcribe 'music'. It has nothing to do with "how to write a song" as litmus test. Just idiotic. To try to bend ppl to that, literally serves to justify removal of "theory" as a tag. All Crypta music can be enscribed, transcribed into written form. She doesn't want to write music starting from pen and paper, but from what she feels in her metal heart. Musical theorists are scribes in concept, not the artist themselves, though some may explore that and that's totally bitchin'. There's nothing wrong with knowing how to read/write music, it's an absolute gift and talent that should not be ignored. Many understand this. But to those overly defense and think it's a quasi-substitute-"way of song-writing" can eat a schlong. Go out-do Crypta if you're haught-shite. Where are your "magic songs"? Music is not from the parchment but from the heart What comes from the heart and soul and mind before it can reach the parchment? Wanna brain it and start from parchment and prove "all wrong", self-gritting teeth and all? - cool, have at it! Seriously, who doesn't love a great song? We need more of them. Do it. Write one for Taina, for Crypta if you can while you're at it. Right? Can you do that too? Finally, to paraphrase the legendary Eddie Van Halen, who said it always 'just came to him' and never learned to read sheet music: "The hell with the rules, if it sounds right to you, it is." Contemplate this on the tree of metal --- was he wrong?
@GregsWhiskyGuide
@GregsWhiskyGuide Жыл бұрын
Taina has an endearing personality, as Fernanda I heard recently on interview & I'm sure the others too, I like how humble & hard working they are, a band to follow !
@AIRANPBGTRA
@AIRANPBGTRA Жыл бұрын
Tainá é foda!! Talentosa pra kct! Tive a hora de ver ao vivo e é impressionante.
@shaneharrington3655
@shaneharrington3655 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with her on theory…
@christianauerbach9845
@christianauerbach9845 8 ай бұрын
Part of the great Lineup Fernanda has never had till Crypta . Now she has the Guitar Power to be a real Band and look at it go berserk . Love her and love the whole Crypta thing . Bought both Albums and they are so good to listen too 10 times a day . Crypta / Taina / Jesica and what a good Drummer . They are so Good . Ancient Metal Guy .
@bryanharrison3889
@bryanharrison3889 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with almost everything she said here. From theory to guitar shapes to loving dissonance.
@phyolleus88
@phyolleus88 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right! Adore you!
@CarloRegadasGuitar
@CarloRegadasGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with knowing exactly what you are doing. It also doesn't hinder any creativity. Just ask Bach; well, you get what I mean..
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t hear whats she is saying. She is talking about feeling over theory. What is the point if you knowledge if you do things automatically. Music is a gift and expression. The is a lot of musicians wha made me want to learn how to play guitar and the disnt know theory but they know al the notes in their instruments. Eric Clapton Jimmy Hendrix, George Lynch , Slash they only play what was on their hearts. And Steve Harris (bassist) from Iron Maiden doesn’t know theory too.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 2 жыл бұрын
@@edselrivera2085 actually most of the musucians you stated, ESPECIALLY Hendrix, were and are well versed in music theory. Knowing music theory and the basic building blocks does not mean you are going to be a robot. That is a misnomer made by fools.
@jackson.d1500
@jackson.d1500 2 жыл бұрын
Okay bro go practice ur modes
@jarretc110
@jarretc110 2 жыл бұрын
this guy gets it.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
@@MercilessGuitar151 You need to read more history. They all played by ear just like Tainá. I don’t know what are you fighting for because you just repeat what Tainá said in the interview. She knows how to compose music but she don’t like to be like a robot. So why are you so hurt? Why are you so mad? Do your music and thats it. She is doing music around the world and writing songs. Are you?
@VikCain
@VikCain 2 жыл бұрын
Using the theory that you know is always voluntary, practice and doing stuff is mandatory.
@Interpol99
@Interpol99 Жыл бұрын
3:14 very aggressive riff
@Raijin-RyuX24
@Raijin-RyuX24 2 жыл бұрын
Tainá is a crush. I said what I said. I learned guitar same way she did. By ear. By what sounds good. Never learned theory not once. So, naturally, as a fan and a guitarist, I agree.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 жыл бұрын
You know how to play a G major chord? And a G minor chord? Possibly 7th chords? You know the basic major and minor scales? The pentatonics? Guess what. That’s music theory! You do know it.
@Raijin-RyuX24
@Raijin-RyuX24 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I’ve been playing for over 10 years guitar/bass. When we are talking about not knowing theory it’s more of not knowing the names of complex cords or scales, keys or modes (whatever that is) etc… playing is more of a “does this sound good or is one of the notes off?” Learning by ear and not by reading sheet music.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raijin-RyuX24 - For the record, I can’t read sheet music either. On guitar it doesn’t make sense. For piano it does since there’s only one place to play a certain pitch. I don’t know the harmonic minor scale. Don’t need it. Modes are the easy one. C major, C D E F G A B C. Instead play it F G A B C D E F and now it’s Lydian. Same with chords. Don’t start from the 1 chord.
@Proghead88
@Proghead88 2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between knowing the names of things, and using the names of things to remember what your ear liked and why... Learning ABOUT how theory can help you memorize and connect your favorite musical ideas is even better than just "playing by ear" without actually growing your hearing skills... Theory helps with that, and it helps if you learn about it from a serious musician, like Steve Vai. Whether you like his music or not, his creativity is amplified by his understanding of musical context and theory. Or people like Jacob Collier, etc... Theory is not limiting, just the misuse of it by certain musicians.
@lizzyraffaele8976
@lizzyraffaele8976 19 күн бұрын
Same
@bibiinspades1953
@bibiinspades1953 3 ай бұрын
Buckethead is a sick guitarists I had a DVD of him back in the day
@pipschannel1222
@pipschannel1222 10 ай бұрын
I'm not that into death metal but I really like her style and she's super cute.. Crypta in general is a great, very technical band. Those gals are great musicians with razor sharp precision. Very controlled! Big thumbs up!
@kevycanavan
@kevycanavan 2 жыл бұрын
Theory describes what you do it doesn’t tell you what to play. I hate peoples who belittle music theory just because they never bothered to learn it.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, only fools turn their nose at learning.
@TheGospelGuitarist
@TheGospelGuitarist 2 жыл бұрын
While getting my degrees in music which required learning classical and jazz theory, I got into a trap of trying to play the right notes. Theory is not a trap unless you let it become one, I did that for a while. But now years later I have the knowledge and I am back to playing by feeling, which I've survived on for most of my career. You really need to understand playing what is in your heart. Ear training is a good thing. Theory is a good thing. Just don't let them get in the way. Sometimes .....that 'bad' note or not perfect timing, makes things happen that would not otherwise. It took me a few years of practicing not practicing theory when I play. Let nature take over after you learn it, you will get it then.
@kevycanavan
@kevycanavan 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGospelGuitarist there’s no such thing as the right note
@adamdam
@adamdam 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with your statement, I never truly touched much theory but also don't brush it off to make myself feel better for my lack of knowing BUT tbf I do just fine without it all the same!
@dougnulton
@dougnulton 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me you don't know theory without telling me you don't know theory.
@denywilliam5257
@denywilliam5257 Жыл бұрын
Super band!
@tomterrif8503
@tomterrif8503 Жыл бұрын
absolutely adorable
@lizzyraffaele8976
@lizzyraffaele8976 19 күн бұрын
She's so nice
@jacobgarcia2660
@jacobgarcia2660 2 жыл бұрын
Like most people some use their ears some actually learn theory and some even hum their ideas. I never learned scales or theory but I did practice different scale shapes just for fingers exercises. Once I played in front of someone who knows theory they said you know that the minor pentatonic scale. I mostly play by feeling and use my ears but at some point I want to expand and improve my lead playing with theory
@DanielForehand-mt7jt
@DanielForehand-mt7jt Жыл бұрын
Individual thought patterns is god tier
@barrocao
@barrocao 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@jeffershanps
@jeffershanps Жыл бұрын
Tainá ❤🤘🤘🤘🎸
@1bampessan
@1bampessan 2 ай бұрын
What music is in 3:13 ?
@1032patrick
@1032patrick 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know theory which sucks but I expirement and connect notes and it sounds decent
@brandonsanders649
@brandonsanders649 2 жыл бұрын
It's really cringey to hear people say that theory is limiting. Music theory is literally just a description of what is happening, not a set of rules. It's like saying the alphabet is limiting your writing.
@Proghead88
@Proghead88 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@hermanmetalheat5483
@hermanmetalheat5483 2 жыл бұрын
Very technical playing.. Taina play solo with calm style.. its looks great even in fastest beat and very proggesive scalling.. You still in the notes.
@matt926uk1
@matt926uk1 Жыл бұрын
Give me a feel player over a theory junkie anyway.
@mikemartell365
@mikemartell365 Жыл бұрын
🤘🏼🔥🔥🤘🏼
@metalcoffie
@metalcoffie Жыл бұрын
So fucking cool.
@hadleymanmusic
@hadleymanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Me 2. Thats a class on the other side of campus I usually skip
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 2 жыл бұрын
What is it with these people who think that “knowing theory“ suddenly means you can’t play anything other than what some mystical nonexistent set of rules tells you you can? Knowing the landscape doesn’t mean you only travel on existing roads. But not knowing the landscape does prove that you’re pretty much just too lazy to bother improving yourself.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
So she is Lazy. She plays complex music like Death, she knows Classic Guitar, she plays piano. All of that by ear. To do that you need to practice. She can play a lot of styles. She is a Solar Guitar artist so shut up.
@Proghead88
@Proghead88 2 жыл бұрын
@@edselrivera2085 nobody said she is lazy about everything. Think of the analogy. Not knowing the landscape can make you a good explorer by sight (by ear), and it doesn't mean you are lazy about traveling and discovering, but it might mean you are lazy about getting an actual map so you can plan and draw a new town for your friends to live in and enjoy (say like writing an entire symphony). If you do everything in your head, you WILL make certain things harder than they have to be, especially when you get really ambitious. Having a map doesn't tell you where to go. Not using a map for highly complex movements and coordination, is inefficient and some would say... Lazy. Remember the most prolific, stylistically diverse and ambitious composers ALL knew their theory very well. The people who don't use theory well tend to be more limited in style. There is nothing wrong with that, but it should remind you that theory isn't actually limiting... It's the opposite.
@reinaldosecchi6404
@reinaldosecchi6404 2 жыл бұрын
Manda ver, Taynoca!!!
@juanojeda8212
@juanojeda8212 Жыл бұрын
Taina grosa 🤘🔥
@werck09
@werck09 9 ай бұрын
If it sounds good to you as a player, than it is good.
@tototobares
@tototobares 2 жыл бұрын
Tainá ♒
@MistakeLearned
@MistakeLearned 2 жыл бұрын
Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge is power.
@bartekbartek4067
@bartekbartek4067 2 жыл бұрын
Such a bullshitt
@winterhisagi2921
@winterhisagi2921 Жыл бұрын
"Ignorance" got her playing some sold out shows with the godfathers of death metal. She's a phenomenal musician and proves that learning theory isn't a necessity.
@MistakeLearned
@MistakeLearned Жыл бұрын
@@winterhisagi2921 I dont deny her abilities but i do completely disagree that not knwing theory somehow allows her to find some possibilities that those who know theory cannot. That is just not the case. No musician was ever made worse by studying theory. Theory does in fact open many doors to creativity and better enables expressing your thoughts, ideas and emotions. Somehow equating theory with a loss of emotion or creativity is just wrong.
@winterhisagi2921
@winterhisagi2921 Жыл бұрын
@@MistakeLearned I guess it's a good thing that's not the argument she was making then. She never claimed to have some profound technique that no one else can learn, but rather that she didn't personally learn it because she felt it traps people into coming up with things that need to be overly complex all the time. Countless musicians haven't learned it because it's literally not necessary. The point she was making is just like her comment about holding your guitar pick a certain way; music is your journey and should be done the way you want, not the way you're told.
@MistakeLearned
@MistakeLearned Жыл бұрын
@@winterhisagi2921 my disagreement is with the idea that theory is limiting. It is not. I understand why she says she doesnt need to learn theory to do what she does and that is fine. Listening more closely, what she actually says is not what the headline of the article is! My beef is not with her but with the editors. Thank you for pointing out.
@nikolatomic5287
@nikolatomic5287 Жыл бұрын
all those musicians who plays in orchestra's around the world know theory inside out. that's why there is no any new Beethoven recently. those music purists will never came up with metal, it if was up to them. ok, music theory helps a lot, but only when you learn to play guitar without it. if you learn theory first, you are stuck with "proper way to play it" and you will never deviate from it
@donnosborne9723
@donnosborne9723 Жыл бұрын
She a bad ass :)
@Soul74
@Soul74 2 жыл бұрын
If you are playing by ear, you’re still using theory. You just don’t know the names. There’s been a lot of people in recent years sort of bragging or proclaiming that they don’t know theory. What are they so proud of? People have been saying this since the 1950s when rock ‘n’ roll came out. What are you rebelling against? Hip-hop and EDM? Those artists know less about theory than you do.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
She is not bragging. Slash is not bragging. George Lynch is not bragging. Jimmy Hendrix is not bragging. Paul McCarty is not bragging. Eric Clapton is not bragging. Not all people like theory I don’t know music theory and I play 3 instruments at the end music is from the soul because is an expression. You can know all the theory that you want but if you are dead inside your music will be blend.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 2 жыл бұрын
@@edselrivera2085 if you sre dead inside then knowledge of theory or not is moot. You equate music theory and knowledge to being dead inside and that is plain ignorance. Knowing theory can actually help you to express yourself better. Only fools think other wise.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
@@MercilessGuitar151 I know a lot of people who know theory and their music is no good at all. So theory is a complement but is not all. Anyway I’m going to play with my band see ya.
@Proghead88
@Proghead88 2 жыл бұрын
If you like to look at all the possibilities, why not increase your awareness of the patterns you use and your visualization skills? If you want a better view of a place, buy a map (or go on Google earth). Going by memory or by pure sight in front of you would take MUCH longer to get the same view you are looking for... That's where theory helps.
@harbingerjoe5751
@harbingerjoe5751 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more to "The instrumental part of a song tells you a lot. Maybe more than the lyrics". And the emotion put into notes can say an incredible amount about the player too as she pointed out with Buckethead.
@JohnSmith-zl8rz
@JohnSmith-zl8rz 5 ай бұрын
What a babe! 😍
@RisikoAO
@RisikoAO 2 жыл бұрын
"grammar can be a limitation" - not a writer
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a guitarrist and bass player and I understand whats she is saying. There is a lot people here fighting because theory is important but is not the most important thing to play. You need to have the gift of music this is more important, without passion you can know all the theory that you want but your music will be blend . Music is an expression you need to have a soul for it. Some musicians that doesn’t know music theory Jimmy Hendrix, Eric Clapton, George Lynch, Slash, Steve Harris (Iron Maiden).
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, all of these musicians had a grasp and knowledge of music theory. The claim that Hendrix did not know theory is a lie, he was well versed in it. And what about Santana? He is amaster at expression on guitar and is also a master of theory. It is a tool that csn be used. Only fools turn away knowledge and tools that help mske theor work and passion easier and better.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we didn’t know how to call it ,but I know how and what to play on it. Its simple.
@dougnulton
@dougnulton 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the quote in the title, "theory can be a limitation", is just wrong. You don't need to be classically trained to write good songs, but to suggest that learning theory can negatively affect your songwriting is completely ridiculous.
@TheGospelGuitarist
@TheGospelGuitarist 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougnulton Absolutely agree!
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougnultonshe was talking about the rules. She likes to explore.
@preston2636
@preston2636 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody should have a basic grasp on theory at the very least for timing. Especially guitar players, putting your songs into guitar pro for your band mates is much easier when you know what you're doing in you're song rhythmically
@gab.lab.martins
@gab.lab.martins 2 жыл бұрын
Gatinha bagarai.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 жыл бұрын
If you know chords, you know music theory. You don’t have to know complex jazz harmonies.
@jarretc110
@jarretc110 2 жыл бұрын
lmao, that's not even close to being true.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarretc110 - C major is the notes C E and G. The root note, the major third, and the perfect fifth. It’s not arbitrary. How would you know? Music theory tells you those intervals. Care to revise your statement? How is it not true?
@HabAnagarek
@HabAnagarek Жыл бұрын
"theory can be a limitation" - automatic skip
@camisick4672
@camisick4672 2 жыл бұрын
Theory is never a limitation. Just learn your damn craft properly and stop bragging about ignorance.
@codystrader7594
@codystrader7594 2 жыл бұрын
Says the person who has never been interviewed about their music.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
She said it in the term of following strictly the rules.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
So Jimmy Hendrix, Prince, Steve Harris, Slash, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Paul McCarty are or were ignorant. They know the theory but don’t know how to read it. Is the same with her she makes music she knows what she is doing. She practice playing Death this band they were virtuoso
@bartekbartek4067
@bartekbartek4067 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Who cares what U know, when U doing nothin…
@zeroman614
@zeroman614 2 жыл бұрын
School is stupid, just drop out.
@DeadRoman
@DeadRoman 2 жыл бұрын
People who say theory can be a limitation are making excuses for their lack of musical knowledge.
@TheGospelGuitarist
@TheGospelGuitarist 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that eveyone buys into the hype that theory is hard. It's not. But it does take time and that new pedal out there should help me play better, not.
@edselrivera2085
@edselrivera2085 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear her play Classic Guitar, she play piano too so I don’t think she lascks of music knowledge. I play Beethoven and I don’t know how to read it. I play by ear.
@xb5883
@xb5883 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is more of a turn off than all you people who are die hard about music theory...people like you kept me from realizing I was a musician until I was 35. F theory...until you are ready for it.
@malcolmadams2105
@malcolmadams2105 2 жыл бұрын
Guitarists are just superstitious especially if they think something is working for them.
@jarretc110
@jarretc110 2 жыл бұрын
so, she want's to sound pretentious? because that's literally what high level jazz musicians do. except they come from a place of relative knowledge instead of trying to come off as some kinda bullshit savant.
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