Prepar3D V3.1 The secret to Smooth Simming 30FPS at 30Hz

[@maxam66]

Beautiful vid David, I am floored by the smoothness and clarity that you present with your setup, I wish I could do the same. Robert

[@davidmcclean8811]

+maxam66 The Key is a display that supports 30hz. However, others say that they achieve the same results with Gsync but I have never seen it

[@maxam66]

I have been reading on AVSIM about a fellow that has incredibly smooth frames with 30Hz refresh. Here's a post regarding setting the affinity for P3D and TrackIr, thanks for your reply. Robert. www.avsim.com/topic/482415-my-version-on-how-to-get-smooth-and-stutter-free-p3d-31/

[@davidmcclean8811]

+maxam66 Yea I say that thread. I don't think he is setting his monitor to a 30hz refresh rate. I see he is looking for a steady 30fps with no stutters. That is indeed the goal. My approach is I believe muh more straightforward but unfortunately redundant unless you can support a 30hz refresh rate. It seem pretty much that only simmers that use a TV instead of a monitor can achieve this. Glad you enjoyed the video :-)

[@UnlimitedPlayZ-l8k]

great video mate , i dont understand why so many dislike anyway it will help alot of people i will try it my self thank you

[@davidmcclean8811]

+ＤＲ~ＡＶＩＡＴＩＯＮ Haters gonna hate! :-) I hope it works for you :-)

[@komrad1983]

Hello. What kind of settings do you use for Vsync. I have 4K monitor.

[@davidmcclean8811]

I use Vsync on and Unlocked FPS and a Screen refresh rate of 30hz

[@komrad1983]

David McClean Thank you. Adaptive vsync, half refresh or just plain "on"?

[@ramberto7785]

How are you getting the head shaking effect on take off roll while still using track IR???

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Ram Berto I am pretty sure that is an EZDOK effect. I haven't really done anything to those setting. I just left them as they are. The only thing that I can think of that I did related to the that is Turn off "dymanic head movement" in cfg The only reason I turned it off is because I thought it sounded like the same thing that EZCA did but try it and see it you then get the EZCA head movement.

[@ramberto7785]

Ok reason i asked is i thought you couldnt get the EZDOCK effects while using track ir at the same time. So if you are moving your head with track IR there would be no shake from EZDOCK until you disabled track IR and then the head shake would return....thast the only reason i havent bought EZDOCK is i thought whatsd the use if i always use track it

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Ram Berto You should go and ask at simforums.com I wouldn't want you to buy an addon based on info I give you but I am quite sure that "shacking" is produced by EZdok camera, even with TrackIR in use. You have to do a little setup in EZdok for TrackIR that involves disabling True View in TrackIR but that is the least of it. Installation and setting up camera sets in time consuming and tricky and its in beta for Prepar3D V2 and V3. Here is the link to the forum: www.simforums.com/forums/ezdok-software_forum39.html

[@fingerhorn4]

Can you get the same result by setting half refresh rate in nvidia control panel? I ask because I do not have a 30hz-capable monitor.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+fingerhorn4 I don't think so :-(

[@fancandyman]

i didnt quite get how to do that could u ellaborate?

[@milehiaviation]

Did you experience horrific input lag at such a low refresh rate?

[@MyMach4]

Well i guess I'm wrong as I am very smooth while taxi and takeoff But did a aFlight from Vancouver to Toronto on approach 30fpsOn final 23 heading facing terminal Keep in mind I am using lite pack Fps drop to 24to28 and minor stutters then once landed back up to 30 smooth taxing to gate Must be something in scenery? Terminal perhaps?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+mike michaels I have the same issue. I have yet to be able to do a flight from one hub to another in a PMDG aircraft and maintain 30fps from gate to gate. And it is on the approuch and landing the FPS drops about 20+ fps. This is only problem I have with P3D but I cannot fix it.

[@MyMach4]

Are you refering to in loin flights only to Cyyz from around the globe? Or other mako cities? Cyyz is the only issue I have I have flown from yssy to cyvr klax to Sydney etc etc no issues smooth as silk the whole flight Have you jumped on avsim forums in regards to affinity mask and core distribution With affinity mask 116 in cfg and using process lasso have p3d on core 2,4,5,6. Asn on cores 0,1,3,7 Refresh rate 30 unlimited fps in game with vsync tripple buffer on Mod setting HDR off Running very well But as I said apart from final approach to Cyyz Cheers

[@davidmcclean8811]

+mike michaels AS I recall my FPS drops below 30fps on final and landing at every large detailed addon hub I fly into.

[@MyMach4]

Do you fly on vatsim? What about if you stop ai from being injected Does that help?

[@xenonsk1633]

+David McClean I have same problem.

[@vupham8275]

The comment stated "modest settings, see screenshots" but I scanned the video and there were none. So what are these modest settings?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Vu Pham Yea, you have point! I originally planned to edit the video with Windows movie maker and add screen shots of the Display setting. Editing the Video added stutters that would be mistaken for the Usual Vsync stutters seen in P3D and FSX so I just uploaded the shadowplay MP4 despite the embarrassment of nearly killing everyone shortly after take off but I guess nobody watched the video to the end since there are no comments about it LOL! So having considered posting the setting from my CFG I decided not to. I don't want anyone screwing up the .cfg pasting parts of mine into it. My specific setting are in any case not relevant. My system will run can maintain 30fps with those setting. Your system may not be able too or perhaps your system can maintain 30fps at higher setting. You have to determine the appropriate setting for your system yourself.

[@timurcpt]

hello sir. Very nice video but I have a question.How did you install EZCA to P3D .Really i did everything to install it updated from 1,17 to 1.18 but i couldn't install it to P3D V3.i read each manual and searched in google but couldn't find solution.After installing ezdok it doesnt woek in p3d i see the ezdok menu in p3d but neither cam views nor the scroll on the mouse not working.If someone able to help me please contact me.

[@skittles3212]

Is there a way for me to download this simulator

[@davidecampanello6227]

Hi David. Great video. Thanks for sharing. Are you able to send me the complete specs for your computer please? Wanting to upgrade mine and get results like you. Thanks in advance. Davide.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Davide Campanello go to channel home page and click on about tab

[@jcrouse55]

Hey David, great video. I have one question about the 30hz refresh rate, My monitor is a Asus MX279H ips monitor and it says it has a 30hz setting but it is interlaced. Does the interlace make a difference or should that work? Please let me know Thanks John

[@davidmcclean8811]

+John Crouse I really don't know. But I remember accidently setting my refresh rate to 30i instead of 30p and if I recall correctly I only notices it afterwards that it was set to 30i instead of 30p. i think it might make a slight difference to colour saturation but other than that I think it will work. It its supported you can't brake anything so give it a whirl :-)

[@MrZX1409]

What program are you using for your AI traffic and how did you get it to work I have just purchased Prep3dv3 and I'm coming over from FSX, I used Ultimate traffic2

[@davidmcclean8811]

I used WOAI for this video and others. Ifs free but work to download and install. you should be able to find a tutorial on avsim.com

[@Mdemons12]

how reliably is it at 30fps? from your description is sounds as though if it drop for one moment then it will stutter for the rest of the flight.

[@davidmcclean8811]

No it wont suffer for the rest of the flight, just while its below 30

[@TheFlightSimDeck]

Very nice David! How do you like ShadowPlay? I use it too but sometimes the recording is buggy in spots and my audio is always off.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+The Flight Sim Deck If you click the shadowplay button in the top right corner of the GeForce Experience GUI a small box opens up and it has an audio button. Click the audio button and it will show you audio options. I am guessing your is set to "off"

[@TheFlightSimDeck]

+David McClean Thanks I'll look into that. I mean it records the audio but it's never in sync with the video. So I have to always sync it myself. Part of the issue is Adobe Premiere.

[@milehiaviation]

Having a rough time finding a decent monitor that can run at 60hz for other games, but also 30hz for flight sim... could you recommend one?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Mile-Hi Aviation | HD Aviation Content I can't recommend one but I can tell you that if you want 30hz you will probably have to get a TV instead. I use a Samsung 60" Plasma TV for gaming and it works great. No lag at all. It supports 24hz, 29hz, 30hz, 50hz, 59hz and 60hz. For Prepar3D in many scenarios I can maintain 50fps so I use 50hz but for PMDG aircraft at major hubs with traffic etc. I can maintain over 30fps so I use 30hz. I would only add that if you can find a TV that also supports 39hz or 40hz you will get great benefit from that. Bottom line I don't think you will find a monitor that supports 30hz. If you want that you will have to go with a TV. I would suggest asking on AVSIM. You will probably get a lot of input there.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Mile-Hi Aviation | HD Aviation Content I found the Model number for my TV. Here it is: www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/PN60F5300AFXZA

[@tropelars]

Hello! I played a lot of Flight Sim when the Fs9 and X was on CD, can I ask, what does it takes to get an Flight Simulator running like your does AND is it the FSX you are playing with?

[@joneseyce]

That's P3D, if you read the description this guy has an insane CPU(oc'd to5ghz) and very few come like that, it is therefore very rare to get performance like this without putting at least $1200 and hours into over clocking and tweaking. Needless to say, this guy did not have his sim like this on day 2.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Joneseyce. you are correct :-) There is a lot of ground work to achieve this performance. In my case a rather novel coolong solution that has served me well for nearly 2.5 years. However you can get this performance at 4.8 or perhaps 4.6ghz. The real secret is as the title of the video says, a 30hz refresh rate. Very few monitors will do it but plenty of TV's will. And as a precursor to that you need to follow NickN's guides on Simforums.com to the letter:-) I get sick of saying that :-)

[@joneseyce]

+David McClean what kind of vcore do you give it for 5ghz? and what is your cooling solution?

[@tropelars]

oki, thanks... wonder what is the closest I can get to a normal setup.

[@joneseyce]

+tropelars what do you mean a normal setup?

[@AxCYeR]

those sky and cloud textures... amazing! my fsx still looks crappy. but i'm a vfr guy, low and slow. what do i need to do to get realistic skies like that? i know this is p3d which already has better default graphics but, you know.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+AxCYeR REX4 + ASN

[@braydenproductions9132]

oh ok so it seems tvs AA opposed to monitors are more likely to be 30hz capable

[@braydenproductions9132]

got a 980ti but p3d is still unusable without 30hz or 1/2 refresh

[@BIOHAZARDXXXX]

If only shadowplay could detect my Prepar3D...did you do any special set up or configuration so that it is detected?

[@BunnyHairedKid]

I would love to know your settings

[@davidmcclean8811]

+BunnyHairedKid OK, I'll see if I can post my setting later but honestly they are not relevant.

[@jptoma]

Brrr ! Scary the takeoff :-D

[@braydenproductions9132]

are you using nvisp sgss?

[@Buehler1997]

is this the most expensive version? and what are the differences?

[@Buehler1997]

and do you use any addons?

[@Ciderfer]

How to get prepard 3d?

[@Kopinio21]

+Ciderfer Gaming buy it?

[@qenovus6165]

haha

[@koruAviator2015Aviation]

What's the Addon with all the aircraft near you David???

[@davidmcclean8811]

That is WOAI (World of AI)

[@koruAviator2015Aviation]

Thanks.

[@davidmcclean8811]

You might want to so a little research before trying to install WOAI packages into P3D. It is tricky! And there are hundreds of Packages which need to be downloaded individually from the WOAI website. You also need to convert that FS9 models to FSX etc.

[@koruAviator2015Aviation]

but i dont have FS9, what do i do?

[@davidmcclean8811]

research

[@samllorca]

Where is the secret?

[@mdmarkdaniel46]

Can you do a tutorial on how to actually get this to work?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Mark Daniel There really isn't that much too it. Your monitor will have to support 30hz and to be honest the vast majority won't. Most LCD and Plasma TV's will and that is what I use. If you can set your display refresh rate in Nvidia Control Panel to 30hz your in luck. However, don't force it if your display doesn't support it. Once your set to 30hz turn off Vsync in P3D display setting with Frame rate set to unlimited and tune your setting so that you are always getting over 34 or 35 FPS. You will have to do this for different kinds of scenarios and save display profiles accordingly. Call the display Profiles for example: "Heavies at Big Addon Airport" and "GA at ORBX airport" accordingly. Once you have you Profiles setup to maintain 34 or 35 fps in corresponding types of scenarios you can Turn on Vsync and you may want to turn on Tripple buffing too. Leave Frame rate at Unlimited. Then when you enter the sim you should see the frame counter pretty constantly at 30FPS and no stutters.

[@mdmarkdaniel46]

My display doesn't support 30hz. So I guess I am out of luck. But thanks for the reply, David!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Mark Daniel Do you have a lcd or plasma TV with a HDMI port in your home? If so you could at least test 30hz with your system. You will also probably need a DVI to HDMI cable. If you have success then you at least know it will work for you. You could then consider replacing your monitor with TV. They mostly all support 30hz. 60fps in the modern games on high setting in common place these days but I think 60fps on high setting in Flight Sim is years away.

[@DerniersOutrages]

+David McClean Hi David! I was considering a setup close to yours (Heavyduty-PC + v-synced samsung TV), but I assumed I would connect my 980 Ti using HDMI. Should I use DVI instead?

[@rickslinger6100]

Very nice video, I gave up a year ago on simming because of stutters. Considering to go back now.... So the key is never go below 30 fps, and a 30 HZ monitor? You should make some more video's. This one is great!!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Rick Slinger That is one school of thought. Others say that using gsync delivers similar results. I have not seen that and to be honest I am skeptical. In my option 30fps/30hz in the way to go. However, maintaining 30fps gate to gate is proving hard to achieve. I find that on airline flights from any airport I can have more than satisfactory eye candy and maintain 30fps and therefore near perfect smooth game play from push back to climb out and all the way to the destination. However, once i get to the destination airport with all the same setting the fps starts to dip below 30fps as goes as low as 20fps on the approach inducing the all to familiar vsync stutters. Ironically, this is the part of the flight where smoothness is most required. And yet, then with the same settings I can depart from that same airport maintaining 30fps no problem. I have yet to solve this problem. I really only spend a lot of time simming in the winter and again this winter I spent far more time optimizing the experience than I did actually in the virtual skies. If I where asked the question, was the time effort and money worth it? With the benefit of hindsight and without much pondering I would say No! I anticipate one more video this winter illustrating this exact problem. I have not posted anything in AVSIM or Prepar3D.com about it yet but I would be surprised if this issue was not universal for all users. For me its a deal braker. If I cannot fix it I am done with Flight Sim or at least with tubliner's and in flight sim

[@rickslinger6100]

+David McClean ha the same for me. I had build a monster pc 4770k ( for that time) and good video card but always those micro stutters.....might try it next winter again. but you should be making more vids

[@cristian140775]

Very awesome!! what kind of traffic do you use?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+cristian lorenzoli I have about 500 WOAI packages. I used AI flight planner to convert the flight Plans from FS9 format to FSX format so they play nice with P3D. WAOI is freeware and I often cannot believe how low impact it is on Performance. There was 25 AI aircraft at the airport for that video :-)

[@cristian140775]

Really impressive! Planes seem very well done.. :-) I have to convert them to make them work with P3D?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+cristian lorenzoli Well, I have only scratched the surface with AI Flight Planner. You don't have to convert them but I don't think that FS9 flight Plans are strictly compatible with FSX or P3D. And I have to say that that video shows the best I have ever seen WOAI behave. I think that perhaps AI with FS9 Flight Plans perhaps are in the AI traffic count but don't show up in the sim. Not to sure about that. However AI Flight Planner is freeware and it will batch convert all your FS9 flight plans to FSX Flight plans in one fowl swoop. If you have a whole buch of WOAI packages then you can do a lot of manipulation of these packages with AI flight Planner.

[@MickeySpex]

G´day David, im running my sim the same way. Your result is outstanding as you use heavy add ons in your vid. So i would say you could be satisfied with the outcome. CYYZ is great but still a resource hog as well as is the T7. However it must be said that a it is also up to 3PDs to deliver high efficient native P3D2.x/3.x add ons. That is as well the key to a fluid sim experience. Although i tweaked my cfg a bit maybe that could help. FFTF=0.15, TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=160, TextureMaxLoad=27, AffinityMask=340 (for a i7 5820k oc´ed 4.5GHz HT=ON)

[@Revoltec120]

p3d v3 doesnt need any tweaks in .cfg 😉

[@MickeySpex]

+Revoltec120 I thought that too until i tried.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Prepar3D v3 GarageHD I use FFTF=0.05, TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80. I run my system with HT=off

[@MickeySpex]

+David McClean Thanks David.

[@jayrenbiz]

Really smooth experience. Why is it important to lower refresh rate and lock in 30 FPS? If i set FPS limiter to 30, it often dipped under 30...why??? I'm using GTX1070 and my FPS fluctuates wildly from ~25 at CYYZ to100+during cruise, really frustrated.

[@davidmcclean8811]

The trick to smoothness is not the number of FPS it is that all the frames are diplayed for the exact same length of time. If you have 100 frames per second and some of those frames last 1/50 of a second and others last 1/200 or a second and everything in between you will see stutters. On the other hand if you have 30 frames per second and each frame is exactly and consistently 1/30 of a second you gaqme play will be smooth. Using the internal frame limiter as I understand it has a performance overhead. If you monitor supports a refresh rate of 30hz then you can accomplish what I have shown above. First of all set your Frame Rate to unlimited, Turn off triple buffing and Vsync. Set up you senario and fly with the frame counter on. (best to use ShadowPlay frame counter and not the built in one) if you FPS is consistently above 30 FPS (a minimum of about 35 is good) then you are good to go. If your FPS is always way above 30 like in the 40, 50 and 60 or higher you can tune your setting upwards to bring the the FPS down to a Minimum of about 35 as indicated. Once you have done all of this you need to save your setting and scenario and exit the sim. Go into Nvidia Control Panel and change your refresh rate to 30hz (Your monitor may not support 30hz, in which case you are out of luck) Restart your system and start the flight sim and load the scenario. Go into display setting and turn Vsync on and fly. if you didi everything right you should have a perfectly smooth gameplay experience. leave the ShadowPlay frame counter on and you should see it remain a 30 consistently. if you notice a stutter (and you occasionally will) glance at the frame counter and I beat you will see the frame counter dip below 30. This all works great except on approach where you will likely not be able to maintain anywhere near 30FPS even on very low setting. That's why I quit Flight Sim :-(

[@williamaviation1565]

Amazing! Never thought FSX could be like this! 64 bit!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+WilliamAviation Well it can but its not easy. A very powerful PC is the starting point!

[@williamaviation1565]

I want mine to look this my specs are i7 4790k GTX 970 32GB ram 1TB SSD How to I get this?

[@maydaygoingdown5602]

Lol, it can't, this is P3d V3.1

[@joneseyce]

what CPU cooler are you using? or is it just air-cooled outside in Canada's winter?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Joneseyce. You got it in one :-)

[@joneseyce]

+David McClean gaaha, I should reassemble the computer in a mini-freezer!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Joneseyce. I though about that and its not a good idea. The stuff you put in the fridge does not generate any new heat! Your PC will and a at fare faster rate than your heat pump will get ride of it:-) No I am afraid only natures fridge will deliver the desired results :-)

[@joneseyce]

+David McClean Ah ok. I gave this 30hz thing a go today, and I can see visible flickering... is this just my display or a thing with 30hz monitors, It was a native option I should add.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Joneseyce. Its not a thing with 30hz! why don't you google it and see if you can find out why its flickering. Then you might be able to fix the problem or at least know why it flickers.

[@amjadallaham7707]

where I can buy this game and how much it cost?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+751 Hi Im Be careful. Its not a game! it is a professional flight simulator. It runs on windows 7 and up. You can buy it from the developer Lockheed Martin at www.prepar3d.com There are a number of EULA. Just pick the one you qualify for. The video has a lot of addons and the software doesn't look like that out of the box. You will also need quite a powerful PC. If it doesn't workout for you there is a 60 day money back guarantee.

[@amjadallaham7707]

+David McClean there's no another game like it? like x-plane 10 it's good or u dont know it?

[@amjadallaham7707]

+David McClean and if I want to addon something it will cost or it's free?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+751 Hi Im X-plane 10 has is following. I have tried it but I prefer Prepar3D. There is a limited amount of free addons of varying quality. There are some good free addon Military Aircraft here: indiafoxtecho.blogspot.nl/ There are also dome good free scenery and utility addons around. Checkout www.avsim.com/index.php/ It is an expensive hobby!

[@amjadallaham7707]

+David McClean I can't buy unlimited version of prepar3d v3? or I have to buy per month? I dont understand exactly how to get it I want to buy it.

[@DLB19901107]

What fps counter are you using?

[@davidmcclean8811]

ShadowPlay

[@r.a.vaviation3979]

Traffic addon?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+R.A.V Aviation World of AI

[@themadmammal135]

You have an extremely nice game there :) Is it possible if i could know what you HDR settings are in game?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+PhantomMammal HDR is disabled

[@themadmammal135]

Oh right okay, thanks! :D

[@themadmammal135]

+David McClean And may i aslo ask where the screenshots are for your settings?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+PhantomMammal Yea, I usually do add screen shots for the setting, however, on this occasion when I tried to edit the video with Windows Movie Maker and add the setting screen shots, I found that there where a lot of stutters in the resulting MP4 while the original MP4 was as smooth as the gameplay. I therefore decided to just upload the unedited MP4 from ShadowPlay. The setting themselves are not really that important though because the setting that can maintain 30FPS will vary from one machine to another. You will have to take a trial and error approach. The key is 30fps at 30hz.

[@themadmammal135]

Okay thank you, But wont i have to change the hz everytime i come out of P3D to make it so i have smooth on other games like BF4 for example?

[@PcPilot82]

Very nice

[@Droviation]

Looks really smooth now if it would be a good sim for videomaking than I would switch :)

[@Petefamily]

my monitor refresh is 60hz so I am out of luck.

[@HQquax]

Good idea ! Works perfect for me, even though I have only a normal PC monitor. (NVIDIA control panel - custom - 30 hz) vsync and unlimited in Prepar, and all microstutters are gone :))

[@chemsxeddine]

Does it work when 30 FPS is locked on P3D ?

[@sadbucket]

As soon as I saw u like the Trudeau is unqualified vid u had to sub XD

[@davidmcclean8811]

+chip5620 What?

[@sadbucket]

David McClean on ur home feed it said that you liked a rebel media video about Trudeau being unqualified as pm, so I was jst jking around, idk , i actually rlly like the fsx stuff you do

[@davidmcclean8811]

+chip5620 No problem :-) Its OK if you are insulting me so long as you are insulting King Trudeau too. LOL!

[@sadbucket]

+David McClean lol no, I'm not insulting u I'm insulting Trudeau. and I actually an subbed to u xP

[@bigmikea94132]

What monitor do you use?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+bigmikea94132 Not using a monitor. I guess you are asking because yours doesn't support a refresh rate of 30hz? Well that's pretty much the norm with monitors. However, it is a different story with TV's. Most LCD and Plasma TV's support a refresh rate 30hz. I use a 60" Samsung Plasma TV

[@bigmikea94132]

+David McClean I'm asking because I'll be building a new system this spring, & want to know what options to consider.

[@davidmcclean8811]

+bigmikea94132 You may want to look at Gsync too.

[@jean-fredericvodoz3768]

Hi David and thank you for this very interesting feed. How could you manage to OC your 4770k to 5 GHz, it seems impossible ?! Thank you very much. JF

[@davidmcclean8811]

Here is the model number of the TV I am using for those who asked: www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/PN60F5300AFXZA

[@majoroscillatormajorosc7344]

2 things would solve your stutter. a gtx 1080 (or even a 1070), and a few gsync monitors. I run triple 7880*1440 gsync 27" monitors at 144hz. fps can dip as low as 35 fps in prepar3d, but as long as they stay within the gsync window, it's absolutely smooth as silk without a single hickup. (mind you, I only run asn for clouds). the other thing to get rid of stutter is simple. STOP using sli. every config I've ever run had stuttering issues when i ran sli. I removed the second card, and presto, no stutter.

[@senseidekkers5618]

Great video but it was clickbait. I came for the secret and didn't get any tips. All I got is a video of you taxiing and taking off. Not too helpful......

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Sensei Dekkers The one and only tip is 30fps at 30hz. Thats it! If you display does not support 30hz its redundant. The video is the evidence that it works.

[@senseidekkers5618]

David McClean Ahh I see. Sorry to be rude.

[@BunnyHairedKid]

god thats beautiful. I can only get my 4770k stable at 4.3ghz and ive only got a 24hz or 60hz setting so i have to stick with that

[@davidmcclean8811]

+BunnyHairedKid depending on your monitor size and how close to it you sit and how good your eyes are, 24hz might cut it. If you are looking straight ahead it will certainly cut it, however when panning you will likely notice that it is not fluid. However so long as you are maintaining 24 fps at 24hz it will be smooth. i.e. stutter free

[@BunnyHairedKid]

+David McClean Yeah I've been using it so it's alright. Do you also need to lock fps internally at 24 for that or can you leave it unlimited and it automatically stays at 24?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+BunnyHairedKid Unlimited and vysnc on

[@BunnyHairedKid]

+David McClean Yeah I've got that on and how about the triple buffering? Does that really make a difference?

[@Petefamily]

This is smooth. i only get 12 fps with a gtx 1060. Ill try some of your tricks. would lovr mine to look like this.

[@skittles3212]

This Content was Amazing. Make MORE

[@robainscough]

Finally a believer in the crowd of unbelievers ;) haha

[@davidmcclean8811]

+Rob Ainscough I am not worthy! I am not worthy!

[@georgekyriazis1]

+Rob Ainscough +David McClean Gentlemen this technique made me fly my T7 out of YYZ at 30FPS...I am shocked that 30Hz was the secret lolll Thank you for sharing this....I have made my own recording and credited David McClean for the inspiration of 30Hz!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+George K online Thanks for the credit :-) but just for the record I'm pretty sure that I didn't discover or invent this technique! LOL!

[@georgekyriazis1]

I'm not saying you discovered it - just showing referencing which video gave me the IDEA of 30hz :) loll - said nothing about discovering or inventing :P

[@davidmcclean8811]

Someone asked me if I use a HDMI to HDMI cable or a DVI to HDMI cable. I can confirm that it is the later. DVI connected to the video card and HDMI end connected to Samsung TV. I really don't know if it would make a difference if you used a HDMI to HDMI cable. So long as your display supports a 30hz refresh rate I suppose it doesn't matter if you use HDMI to HDMI or DVI to HDMI but I am no expert on these matters. If your display weather TV or monitor supports 30hz you should be able to achieve smooth stutter free game play at 30fps. achieving 30fps and achieving the quality I have achieved is another story. that depends on a lot of factors. How good your hardware is. Mine is all well over 2 years old now. i7 4770K, 2 x GTX780 etc. However, It was very carefully put together following NickN's guide on simforums.com I even delided the CPU and replaced the thermal paste. I also installed and optimized windows 7 as per NickN's bible on simforums.com I just substituted the FSX installation steps with Prepare3D installation leaving out the exotic stuff that just applies to FSX shortcoming. I had one other trick up my sleeve and that is that my system is in an unheated semi-outdoor part of my house so in the winter i often see my CPU at 0C when idling. I made this video while the system was heavily overclocked. 5ghz on the CPU and the DRAM 2400mhz CL8 (that is a super fast memory overclock) so even if your hardware is equivalent or even better and your display can be run at 30hz. getting the 30fps at it looking this good is still going to be a tall order.

[@nvincnt]

+David McClean my 2011's samsung tv is at 50hz lol

[@davidmcclean8811]

+nvincent_08 Look in the Nvidia control panel. It probably supports 30hz too. :-)

[@neptuneP2V7]

Your DEParture is on 06 L and the wind with the snow on the ground come from 280° ... your climb after take of,f is very special LOL

[@davidmcclean8811]

+neptuneP2V7 It a shame that FT could not get the blowing snow to correspond with wind direction. I was more concerned with getting cool footage than flying the plane. I had to buy all the passengers new underwear. LOL!

[@GreatWhiteNorth82]

My combo which achieves this same performance without locking 30hz/30fps: i7 6700k stock, GTX 1070 stock, 16gb ram, 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD (P3D and OS), 144hz G-SYNC @ 1440p. Pricey, but running FlyTampa YYZ just like this video. When I look back at the hundreds of hours and dollars over the past 20 years trying to achieve this performance, I have to laugh.

[@davidmcclean8811]

Glad that works for you. To aid in the discussion perhaps you can make and upload a similar video for comparison so we can all see if G-sync can deliver stutter free performance like 30fps at 30hz

[@davidmcclean8811]

Funny you should ask that ask that now. Since it is running at 5ghz as I typwe this. First off you don't need 5ghz to achieve the results in the video. 4.8 or even 4.6 will do. NickN posted an complete guide here: www.simforums.com/forums/haswell-48ghz-on-air-building-a-haswell-system_topic46180.html Its a lot of work but it works. I got the extra 2000mhz by keeping my system on a semi outdoor environment at around 0 to -10C in the winter

[@MyMach4]

Nice video I run a i7 4790k stock at 4.4 GHz2x Gtx Titans scAnd did the same scenario at 30hz on a 46inch lcd tv unlimited fps vsync on tripple buffer on Nvidia inspector 4xsgsss etc as per Robs guideMod settingsAsn ftx global etc ut2Running extremely smooth no stutter seven when it drops a couple of frames

[@Morgow1]

30 fps makes me feel ill.

[@davidmcclean8811]

That's a sign your brain thinks what it is seeing is real and since your bodu is not experiencing motion that is consistent with what you are seeing, your brain thinks you have been poisoned and want you to puke to to get any remaining poison out of your stomach! Super Realistic Eh! LOL!

[@Morgow1]

David McClean Not really. It's in every game, borderlands too.

[@Shevchenkocss]

For me its refresh rate 30hz, v-sync on, unlimited fps, triple buffering on, and af 84, smooth as silk !!

[@MarakanaBGD]

Nice STAL

[@davidmcclean8811]

+MarakanaBGD Thanks :-)

[@Ciderfer]

Yes and have all your addons

[@gamestv4875]

Just now 6 hours into my 7 hour flight Prepar3d crashes.Annoying , annoying , annoying !!!! It pisses me off if we pay lots of money for this fucking software and we have to optimize and tweak our high end fucking pc's to run it smoothly.Fuck Prepar3d and FSX.

[@TheMaroon47]

Dawie Van Emmenes I run Prepar3D on a bloody laptop and 12 hour flights don't crash for me.

[@gamestv4875]

It was only a few times.The problem solved itself though.Not sure what went wrong.

[@Ciderfer]

Yes

[@braydenproductions9132]

I'm a believer, just need 600$ or more for a 4k 30hz monitor, got a spare laying around !!!!

[@davidmcclean8811]

+bry sutton I am using a 60" plasma TV at 1080p

[@gianlucaluisi8695]

+David McClean Hi David! What model is the plasma Tv that you use for P3D ?

[@davidmcclean8811]

sorry, I am not sure and I cant take it of the wall to find out :-( I am sure you would get the same results with any display that supports 30hz. In fact it might look even smoother with a 30hz LCD TV. I am really not sure.

[@TheMaroon47]

Wrong procedures for takeoff. I mean nearly all of them. And I assume this was just a circuit around the airport. P.S. That was horrendous.

[@davidmcclean8811]

Its a performance video not a flight tutorial!

[@TheMaroon47]

Even if it's a performance video it's good practice to do it right so you don't muck it up.

[@Helicopterpilot16]

Exactly, or you'll end up sticking with bad habits. Unless flying like a 13yo is the consensus.

[@TheMaroon47]

Tyler H finally someone that understands

[@davidmcclean8811]

either of you two got a pilots license?

[@alialani8408]

this is why X-plane is better

[@braydenproductions9132]

are you using nvisp sgss?

[@davidmcclean8811]

+bry sutton No, I don't use NVI, I only use the display setting in P3D.

[@Ciderfer]

Yes