Preparing your CV for Specialty Training

[@viveksaxena1684]

Sir tremendous amount of relevant knowledge in each and every video. I request you to please make a video on how to do audits in our home country. Thanks and regards

[@SumanPaulDoc]

I will show you how to do an audit in a future video to give you an idea. However the difficulty will be in absence of an audit department in most Indian hospitals, how can you get the certificate for your portfolio?

[@nikhilkumargupta439]

Sir please guide us how to score in QI as a resident in India. A detailed video with example will be highly appreciated. Thank you

[@SumanPaulDoc]

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[@anutrisha2294]

Very informative thank you very much 🙏

[@abbukv]

Thank you for such an informative video yet again. We have had a chat before when I was planning to come to the UK and now when I have just arrived here, I have to ask you this since I follow your channel for all the help- Now I am in UK as a ST3 trust grade respiratory doctor. I have completed 2 years of respiratory diploma from India and worked as an ICU registrar for 6 months and 3.5 years as a respiratory consultant in India. I perform bronchoscopes and Thoracoscope’s which I have trained in from India itself. I have nothing else with me on my Cv apart from my experience (no research, no audits, no posters). I am appearing for both MRCP 1 and 2 this year hopefully and looking at applications for training this year in November, 2024. How do you think I should proceed? How can I make the best use of this year preparing for exams and getting involved in building up my CV, etc? And will I be able to enter training at ST3 level with my profile? Thank you,

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Thanks for your comment. You should spend this year trying to score marks for each of the domains of application scoring and maximise your chances of success. You definitely need audit, full MRCP, teaching and conference presentation.

[@abbukv]

@@SumanPaulDoc I appreciate your feedback. Thank you for everything 🙏

[@nikhilkumargupta439]

Sir, If I completed my MD medicine in India,will I have to repeat IMT(int. Medicine training) again in UK? Can we be eligible for all ST program without IMT?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

In a way IMT is equivalent to MD medicine. So you can apply for ST4 training after MD. But you have to get alternative core competency form signed by a consultant.I have not repeated IMT/CMT in UK and gone straight to higher specialty training.

[@himangshuhazarika3]

@@SumanPaulDoc Which level are you currently at? St3 or St4? Also, which specialty?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

I am at the end of ST4 for respiratory and general medicine

[@himangshuhazarika3]

@@SumanPaulDoc Did you enter specialist training at st3 or at st4?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

@@himangshuhazarika3 it used to be ST3 for entry to training in 2019 but from 2021, it will be ST4 as the entry point.

[@pratyakshveer6673]

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[@mohsinaali1516]

I have completed MRCOG,how can i apply for training post in uk.zero idea please show me a way

[@SumanPaulDoc]

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[@mrGamespump]

Hi Dr. Suman, thank you very much for taking the time and making this video. This is probably the best video I've seen on detailing the Oriel application. I have a few questions and would be very happy if you could answer them - 1. How is an Indian MD scored for Postgraduate degree there ? I have an MD in Internal Medicine in India and apart from a mandatory thesis, I have also had the opportunity to publish original research (non PubMed journal) and 2 case reports in BMJ Global Health ? Does this count as a research degree or and will I get full points here ? 2. Now that I have both MBBS and MD as medical degrees, can I show my MD as my primary medical degree now ? I want to do this because I graduated MD with honors and can show this under additional achievements. Please guide me here. 3. I'm planning to get a diploma in teaching. Does any teaching degree qualify (such as primary and secondary school teaching) or only undergraduate or postgraduate teaching courses are considered ? 4. Lastly, I will be applying to higher specialty training (Rheumatology) this November (2022) and it is unlikely I will have any experience of working in the UK. Will that significantly damage my chances of getting placed ? I'm positively confident that I will have cleared the MRCP PACES (Part 1 and 2 written cleared) by then. Sorry for the lengthy comment but I found your video very helpful and felt you could guide me best on the issues presented above. Sincere thanks and please keep making these videos.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

1. Indian MD is Postgraduate degree with research dissertation- you can score for that. Research publications must be PubMed indexed and case reports are not accepted.These rules do change every year so keep an eye out for the latest rules when you apply. 2. MBBS is your PMQ. you cannot change that. 3. Only teaching qualifications (e.g diploma, M.sc) or courses during UG or PG. 4. Not having UK experience will definitely reduce your chances. But still, go for the application. It's a great learning experience.

[@mrGamespump]

@@SumanPaulDoc Thank you for your quick response. So a PG Degree (MD) in India gets us maximum points in that domain? (4/4 according to Application Scoring Matrix for 2023)

[@SumanPaulDoc]

@@mrGamespump yes

[@mrGamespump]

@@SumanPaulDoc Thank you very much for your quick responses sir. Also, if I may, how did you score in your commitment to specialty domain ?

[@crreddy9744]

Sir in publication part, should the journal be indexed in pubmed itself or scopus indexing , Google scholars too are valid.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Pubmed indexed only.usually they specify this In the application for that specialty.

[@dr.anusree8874]

I came to know that Pubmed and pubmed central are two different indexing. Is pubmed central required or only pubmed is enough?the latter is easier to get.

[@ayushi3674]

Dr, from which college have you done your md ??? What were your additional achievements during your mbbs days?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

R g Kar medical college.no additional achievement relevant to specialty application in the UK.

[@abhishekreghunath]

Hi sir I'm right now doing my MD Radiology in India and hope to pursue a career in UK. Can you guide me stepwise on how to work there as a consultant radiologist?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Complete FRCR, you will be able to work as consultant

[@abhishekreghunath]

Thank you sir for the response. Just a few queries. 1) Do I get GMC registration if I clear FRCR? 2) CCT/CESR is not required to work as consultant? 3) Do I have to clear PLAB before I apply for FRCR? 4) Do I require post residency experience in India as a part of eligibility criteria?

[@nehapadia2889]

Is this the same application to be filled for MTI route ??

[@SumanPaulDoc]

This is application for training post, not MTI.

[@novonildeb5437]

How to become a trainee representative ?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

These posts are selected locally in your region. Anyone interested may volunteer for the posts. You may inform the current reps that you are interested.

[@wolverine8085]

Sir I am a medical graduate from Kerala. I am currently in my neet preparation during which I came to know about the plab route option. But the issue is owing to the pandemic, everything is delayed, exams getting cancelled, plab 2 not possible due to flight restrictions. So in the meantime is it wise to join a respiratory diploma (diploma of tuberculosis and chest diseases) so that I can utilise my waiting period here. But the scope is research and thesis would be limited. Please note that i have a plab seat booked.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Hi, I can imagine there will be significant backlog and delay due to covid.it is a good idea to join chest diploma and complete plab in the meantime.though you don't have thesis but you can participate in research projects and try to preset some posters or publication.this will be better use of your time rather than waiting for plab 2 date.

[@wolverine8085]

Thank you sir for your advice! Can you tell me some good journals where i get my research published?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

There are thousands of journals to choose from. start with Indian journal for the relevant specialty but make sure they are peer-reviewed. Higher the impact factor of the journal, more prestigious it is. I can recommend BMJ case report for case report submission.

[@wolverine8085]

Thank you so much sir for your advice!

[@Dr.Housenbergstark]

Sir after DNB medicine/MD in india and clearing MRCP exam... Can I apply directly to cardiology or should I repeat internal medicine in UK?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

No need to repeat IMT in UK if you have alternative form

[@shuhaabshah131]

Need your guidance..i am a 3rd year PG in dermatology and done part 1&2 of MRCP. would i be able to get a SHO job in internal medicine. Or does mti just give you registrar level job. I would like to start as SHO due to less experience in internal medicine and get my alternate competencies signed during that time.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

You can get SHO job through MTI and even after completing full MRCP.

[@shuhaabshah131]

@@SumanPaulDoc thank you sir. ❤️❤️

[@Born-Surgeon]

Sir prize segment ta ki vabe marks achive korte pari??? Please help me

[@SumanPaulDoc]

honours in MBBS, attend local/national conferences and apply for competitive sections for best poster/ quiz/young scientist.

[@tejinderkaushal6871]

Hello sir can u please help on this - if one after qualifying mrcs stays to join as ophthalmology registrar post forever. What are pros n cons ? Salary and other career prospects.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Hi, you need to pass FRCOphth for opthal, not mRCS. you can remain a registar/middle grade doctor all your life with decent pay.But unlikely will be promoted to substantive consultant

[@ayushi3674]

What is the eligibility criteria regarding the passing of MRCP exams while applying for MTI training??

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Usually they would want you to pass MRCP part 1, but this criteria may change according to competition and demands.

[@fitdoc07]

Sir , I'm an ENT from India, can I know what are my prospects in uk and also can I specialise futher in ENT (HEAD AND NECK ONCO)? AND IF I can branch out to another field for specialisation (ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY)?? NEED THIS PLEASE .. THANK YOU

[@SumanPaulDoc]

You can try to get some non training ENT posts after MRCS. But training posts in ENT or ortho are extremely difficult.

[@vishalharidas5801]

Sir, what specialities from india are comparatively easier to crack royal college exams, get gmc registration and get into a training post in uk

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Internal medicine, GP and emergency medicine

[@joyjeetnandi1017]

Sir please tell me that if I plan to go to UK after my MBBS, what are the additional things should I have in my CV to get a job at the IMT-1 level. Will publications be enough? or do I need to do anything else? because just at undergraduate level audits and teaching are not possible. Please guide me Sir. Your videos are really very helpful

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Broad categories for IMT application are similar to ST3 but appropriate to training level. clinical audit is a must and some teaching experience will help with your application score.if you lose these marks during application, unlikely you will proceed to interview.you should work for a year in UK after internship and achieve these competencies.

[@joyjeetnandi1017]

@@SumanPaulDoc So Sir at what post should I work in the UK for the initial first year in the UK?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

SHO, junior clinical fellow, FY2

[@joyjeetnandi1017]

@@SumanPaulDoc Okay Sir. But are those jobs easy to get? Or do they also have some additional criteria?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

No additional criteria.these jobs are easily available

[@pranjalshukla3913]

Sir ,how long did it take you to get a training job from a non training post ? What is the average time taken by an md medicine from India to do the same ,applying for endocrinology or rheumatology (any rough estimate will be helpful)

[@SumanPaulDoc]

You will need at least 1yr in non training post to improve your CV and get used to the system.training post starts from August so you can plan accordingly.i entered training after approx 3yrs.

[@sudheerreddy2367]

Hello sir...Thanks for making these useful videos...They're extremely informative... I'm a recent MBBS graduate from India currently working as a Medical officer in a govt hospital. I have already cleared OET and have booked for plab 1...Due to the pandemic, I will have wait for a few months for my plab 2...Can you please please tell me if there is any way I can improve my portfolio for applying for an fy2 non training job... I want to get employed soon after getting GMC registration... So any tips from you will be of great help...

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Hi, FY2 jobs don't require a lot on your CV. Try to get some teaching experience if you can with written feedback forms.Mainly focus on PLAB examination.best wishes.

[@sudheerreddy2367]

@@SumanPaulDoc Thank you so much for the prompt reply... I have one more query... Do you think doing a clinical attachment(when we go to UK to give plab 2) is of any significant value? If yes, please consider making a video about the same...

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Clinical attachment is important to get a feel of NHS system. This is just like an observership where you will shadow junior doctors.if you are lucky, the same hospital can hire you.

[@ashlyalexander4108]

Sir your videos are very informative 👍 Thank you for sharing these information's. I had few doubts sir. It would be helpful if you could clarify these 1. If I'm planning to move there after my mrcs ent then which is the usual training level that I join? Is it st3 always if we do mrcs ent? 2. Is a similar kind of cv needed after mrcs ent exam or was it for mti pathway interview? 3. Do we need to show a log book after getting job after mrcs ent (I hv completed ms ent and mrcs part 1 now) N lastly it would be great if you could do a video on mrcs ent and the procedures thereafter as your videos are a gem!

[@SumanPaulDoc]

1. You will start with registrar grade non training posts in ENT after MRCS. 2. The general pattern for all specialties will be similar and it changes every year.please consult ENT curriculum in royal college website for exact details for ENT. 3. Logbook is compulsory.Most doctors maintain online e-logbook, which you can maintain in India from now. www.elogbook.org/ I will try to prepare one on future.Thanks for watching.

[@ashlyalexander4108]

@@SumanPaulDoc Thanks a lot Sir

[@chocosandme9880]

Sir, I’m a general surgeon to get into mch now in India. will it make a difference whether I boost my CV only in MS, or can I do that while doing MCh also, will that be valid? Are Mch degrees, and the achievements during Mch recognised during the application process while trying to get into ST3 level. Thank you

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Both MS and Mch are not recognised in UK so it really does not matter when you are collecting your evidence.achievements like audit, publications, awards are recognised though.

[@chocosandme9880]

@@SumanPaulDoc Thank you so much Sir for your reply. Means a lot 🙏🏻

[@AhmedNazir]

দাদা, আমার একটা প্রশ্ন ছিল। ভারতের MS / MD এর কোন দাম নেই বিদেশে? একজন MBBS পাস করে যেখান থেকে শুরু করছে, ভারতে PG করা একজন সেখান থেকেই শুরু করতে হচ্ছে। তাইলে ভারতে PG করা তো সময় অপচয়। ভারতে PG করলে বিদেশে কি কোন সুবিধা পাওয়া যাবে যেমন কম সময়ে specialist training বা training ছাড়াই practice করার সুবিধা ?

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Amader MD/MS ba onno kono degree bideshe post graduate degree hisebe valid noy. sudhu experience hisebe count kora hoy.UK te alternate route of specialist registration (CESR) e apply kora jabe jodi keu India r experience niye ekhane consultant hote chai. Kintu sei pathway te onek problem ache tai ami personally avoid korte bolbo.Amar ontoto MD training niye laabh hoyeche je ami PLAB route avoid kore MTI diye GMC registration korte perechi.

[@chandanac1958]

Sir, please give some info about how to do an audit during MD/MS in India. It would very helpful.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Sure, will do

[@harihara3271]

Hi sir I have a small doubt sir Does the thesis that I have done as a part of my Medicine PG course have any influence in scoring in CV for speciality training sir ? Does the thesis help in any possible way sir ?? Please help sir.

[@SumanPaulDoc]

Thesis will help if you can publish it.also you can claim score for post-graduation (MD) with dissertation.

[@harihara3271]

@@SumanPaulDoc thank you sir

[@shuhaabshah131]

Need your guidance..i am a 3rd year PG in dermatology and done part 1&2 of MRCP. would i be able to get a SHO job in internal medicine. Or does mti just give you registrar level job. I would like to start as SHO due to less experience in internal medicine and get my alternate competencies signed during that time.