Preseason Cho'gath is broken

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Nemesis

Nemesis

Күн бұрын

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@TheArchiver
@TheArchiver 2 жыл бұрын
My man Lucian really decided to go Galeforce + Collector against Cho'gath and Sejuani
@cybercipher5770
@cybercipher5770 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out so many people are so dumb when itemizing. It’s insane
@GamingGod2000
@GamingGod2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybercipher5770 Same player that is gonna complain that tanks are op more than likely lol
@KASSADlN
@KASSADlN 2 жыл бұрын
Collector is so troll item omg
@franz6122
@franz6122 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybercipher5770 they just refused to use their brain while playing the game if they have one
@anismed1485
@anismed1485 2 жыл бұрын
Collector isnt bad here, he has alot of hp which makes the execute value good
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
keep in mind this video is before the hotfix : jaksho is MUCH better now , you get 24 armor and mr instead of 16 from fighting and 15% total res instead of 10%. the item is insane right now
@Nemesis_lol
@Nemesis_lol 2 жыл бұрын
true
@zakarianasraoui7162
@zakarianasraoui7162 2 жыл бұрын
It's as if either the item has to be irrelevant or insane, riot logic.
@jeremiemarion3966
@jeremiemarion3966 2 жыл бұрын
Item still worse than former sunfire. Stat wise, dmg wise. The ramp up of 8 sec almost never happens in a proper game.
@matteomarku7177
@matteomarku7177 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiemarion3966 get frozen heart it stacks jak sho
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiemarion3966 its not that hard to stack it up with tanky stuff , even played it on sylas with a full ap + jaksho(and zhonya ) build and I was running around with 295 armor and 145 mr while still dealing funny damage the damage isnt very important on it , its mainly being insanely tanky, you want to get a bami's cinder before building jaksho anyway rushing it isnt great The really cool part is that it supplies all the res needed on its own so you can pretty much pick it on anything not very mythic reliant and build it 2nd or 3rd item becoming real tanky. I've seen a few bruisers (warwick/trundle) doing brk>jaksho> tank items with lethal tempo and they were SO damn hard to kill
@TwoToo_
@TwoToo_ 2 жыл бұрын
you know, the good thing about nemesis videos is that the enemy laners don't int 8 times before he finishes his first item, so we get to see how the lane plays out
@aer1s111
@aer1s111 2 жыл бұрын
8:55 what music is that?
@dariolatorre2108
@dariolatorre2108 2 жыл бұрын
is there a playlist of all the song you use in these videos? good job on the montage!
@tongers9188
@tongers9188 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the song at 8:38 and 10:00 and at 11:00? I always hear it but I can never find what song it is. Also the name of the other song that lemon has during his big montage plays please. thanks
@marrlla
@marrlla 2 жыл бұрын
8:38 - Molife - Piece of Streets 10:00 - same song ^ 11:00 - Mai Ligne - Driving in the Dark don't know what u mean for the last one
@tongers9188
@tongers9188 2 жыл бұрын
@@marrlla Cheers!, When a new video comes out with it I'll make a comment asking but thanks so much!
@alexanderromero9701
@alexanderromero9701 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of what riot did to tank items Bambi cinder not being the item path to the mythic is a balancing issue or just underwhelming
@federicoverdi5782
@federicoverdi5782 2 жыл бұрын
I think heartsteel kinda sucks, especially on no-mobile champs (like cho) you only got 400 hp from that… Probably it works better on bruisers, no? Because everyone out runs you so easily
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 2 жыл бұрын
it totally sucks, it is so overhyped, also cho is litterally one of the weakest champs in the game rn lo
@sonochinosadame4276
@sonochinosadame4276 2 жыл бұрын
He only got extra 400 hp cuz of the matchup, if its a meelee matchup he can be perma stacking
@bozydargroch9779
@bozydargroch9779 2 жыл бұрын
@@d4s0n282 That's actually true lol, he's sitting at 46.5% WR
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 2 жыл бұрын
@@bozydargroch9779 he, its sadly litterally troll going cho ;(
@Martonkos
@Martonkos 2 жыл бұрын
Please someone tell me the song at around 7:20 I'm losing my mind over it.
@ratful6789
@ratful6789 2 жыл бұрын
cant find it either
@bentoudal
@bentoudal Жыл бұрын
i kinda wonder how sion would do with fimbulwinter heartsteel titanic
@daboss4318
@daboss4318 2 жыл бұрын
This item honestly did something like 2 times at the end of game. And not like that mattered
@daerror8537
@daerror8537 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody know the song name at 10:45?
@marrlla
@marrlla 2 жыл бұрын
Mai Ligne - Driving in the Dark
@raphaelantoine7331
@raphaelantoine7331 2 жыл бұрын
For those of you that prefer facts to clickbait, Cho winrate with heartsteel is at 46,7% winrate. Cho doesn't need more hp he need mobility or everfrost cc
@lesus9415
@lesus9415 Жыл бұрын
I am cho otp and i prefer everfrost into tank more than straight tank
@hugocognie1784
@hugocognie1784 2 жыл бұрын
Does someone knows the music used at 13:12 to 14:56 ?
@marrlla
@marrlla 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXqvg4yrraeAZ8k
@hugocognie1784
@hugocognie1784 2 жыл бұрын
@@marrlla Big thanks to you man
@joel7342
@joel7342 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he finished Demonic Embrace
@maxca
@maxca 2 жыл бұрын
This music is better than the one you tried before, but I still rather a calmer one. Still a crazy edit, thanks for the video!
@molorhaym
@molorhaym 2 жыл бұрын
Free HP for the rest of the game, yes that's good but does it really matter if the item doesn't have resistences against people that build Sunderer, Eclipse, Liandry's? You're still going to get melted if the enemy team builds correctly.
@paradoxodefermi
@paradoxodefermi 2 жыл бұрын
Lucian doing the try no to do dmg challenge
@bogdanglisici7662
@bogdanglisici7662 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that music game though...
@Habeev07
@Habeev07 2 жыл бұрын
I WANNA SEE TANK META SEASON 13. Lets see 8-10K Sions and Cho's
@whisky_cat
@whisky_cat 2 жыл бұрын
Nemesis should play more top champs midd even if cho is also a midlaner
@pete_5225
@pete_5225 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer midlane Cho’Gath than toplane Cho’Gath cause of easier matchups and the ability to Secure objectives
@Nephilim.369.
@Nephilim.369. 2 жыл бұрын
Great editing
@johnpaik9156
@johnpaik9156 2 жыл бұрын
nemesis is a good player
@tongers9188
@tongers9188 2 жыл бұрын
really not sure who balanced the tank items, heartsteel does more damage than night harvester and even gives permanent health. If youre looking nightharvester might as well go heartsteel at that point honestly. I know that rammus also can hit like 1500 armour with jaksho and thornmail only. Tanks do an insane amoutn of burst. I do like it as when you build mythic you either accept you have less health or less resistances but theyre a tad overtuned i will say
@daboss4318
@daboss4318 2 жыл бұрын
This item is dogshit with abysmal 800 hp, its 2133 gold value put into arguably the worst stat for laning in the game, and this item is for tanks, who already has shit laning phase. And you also need to be near the target for 3s and then auto, this is so hard to achieve on immobile tank. Harvester does so much more immediatly. If you would be right, vladimir would be op with heartsteel, because he can go fast, he can survive 3s, and he can ranged auto that for some reason fully counts unlike grasp, but you just look at winrates with heartsteel vlad and its over.
@dpfnd
@dpfnd 2 жыл бұрын
Really like music in this video
@bryanluis6868
@bryanluis6868 2 жыл бұрын
Cho'gath is my fav champ by far
@paulathekoala1699
@paulathekoala1699 2 жыл бұрын
Why does he keep calling the dragon jarvan
@BeHappyTo
@BeHappyTo 2 жыл бұрын
its dragon not jargon, holy
@bennissimo
@bennissimo 2 жыл бұрын
ur cho is insane!
@ntn6209
@ntn6209 2 жыл бұрын
This item is very healthy for the game. Rip
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 2 жыл бұрын
item sucks lol
@cybercipher5770
@cybercipher5770 2 жыл бұрын
Minute 14 and 3,5 k health :)
@mecrofanssi
@mecrofanssi 2 жыл бұрын
1:36 to 1:45 Nemesis grabbing his sausage in the right position haha
@abra5957
@abra5957 2 жыл бұрын
lil bro really said that 💀
@jeremiemarion3966
@jeremiemarion3966 2 жыл бұрын
Tanks are still trash tho, these items gutted their winrate by 2% in plat + all ranks. Sunderer Bortk LDR Liandry Void are just better items and destroy tanks. Your early lane is worse than a bruiser, and then you don't scale into anything passed 2 items. Build paths are straight up better though.
@zsomborszigeti6797
@zsomborszigeti6797 2 жыл бұрын
they are definitely alot better than before
@mynka7641
@mynka7641 2 жыл бұрын
your elo sure must be high with that accurate of an opinion 🤡
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
because heartsteel isnt a self sufficient item. pure hp gets countered easily and the proc has 30 sec CD so you're not killing anyone with that unless giga squishy. new sunfire gives much needed anti brk stats (ARMOR) and HP scaling DPS. If you're a magic damage tank demonic or abyssal mask third is nice also jaksho is the best tank item since the hotfix , easily
@Nemesis_lol
@Nemesis_lol 2 жыл бұрын
Copium
@jeremiemarion3966
@jeremiemarion3966 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nemesis_lol Stats don't lie. Even Ornn dropped wr.
@XesS_Val
@XesS_Val 2 жыл бұрын
28 seconds no views hollyyyyy
@Play4Everz
@Play4Everz 2 жыл бұрын
doesnt seem like the best mythic item to go for against ap ranged
@zsomborszigeti6797
@zsomborszigeti6797 2 жыл бұрын
it is not at all a situational item, unless you are vs a % max hp champ. Liandries is not enough damage to justify going for any other item on someone like cho
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
@@zsomborszigeti6797 jaksho is insane, like on this video its the pre hotfix jaksho. buffed jaksho(on live rn) gives 54 armor/mr stacked with 15% total res on top and 5 armor mr per legendary item and 400hp, the max hp drain on activating full stacks is just a bonus. People underestimate how big 15% total res is. That's a lot more resists than a hullbreaker. BRK isnt going to help against someone with 300/400 armor. Also : build Rod of Ages (buffed from 3200 to 2800g) ,stack it and have infinite mana for lane. When you get your free level up sell rod for jaksho when you have 2 legendary items (to have 3 items including jaksho) RoA selling price : 1960g , you pay 840g for a level and a real solid laning. Enjoy hitting level 16 when botlane is 12/13
@Play4Everz
@Play4Everz 2 жыл бұрын
@@zsomborszigeti6797 jak sho ?
@zsomborszigeti6797
@zsomborszigeti6797 2 жыл бұрын
@@voidroad I didnt know that jaksho was buffed, but heartsteel is probably still better on chogath if they dont have much % maxhealth dmg. Cho just has too much synergie with that item
@voidroad
@voidroad 2 жыл бұрын
@@zsomborszigeti6797 with jaksho you get to absurdly high resists and cho's kit takes care of supplying the high HP, so yes heartsteel deals more, but jaksho makes you much tankier because it counters BRK and negates lifesteal(you're not lifestealing anything if the target you hit has 400 armor, it gets even worse with thornmail scaling off armor and reducing lifesteal the item is just quite overtuned since the buff
@naserdiab6933
@naserdiab6933 2 жыл бұрын
bro please change the songs you use them every video
@Ennergyiezs
@Ennergyiezs 2 жыл бұрын
full tank cho gath puts me to sleep
@Kammler262
@Kammler262 2 жыл бұрын
First. Morafaqq1 I'm first not you.
@loksy123
@loksy123 2 жыл бұрын
grrr
@ahmedessam568
@ahmedessam568 2 жыл бұрын
4th
@mora1faqq
@mora1faqq 2 жыл бұрын
1st !!!
@dasa7921
@dasa7921 2 жыл бұрын
20min 5000hp 100armor/mr 100ad 50 ap WTF?
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