Pretending To Die in a Canoe Accident to Claim Insurance | Fakes, Frauds & Scammers

[@downtoearth5443]

I'm from India and watching this gave me a feeling of deja vu. Cos the state in India where I'm from, Kerala - witnessed something like this, but more sinister. In 1984 (before I was even born), there was a man called Sukumara Kurup who also wanted to encash on a hefty insurance policy he'd bought. He and his accomplices first kidnapped and murdered an innocent man who shared physical resemblance (height and weight) with him and engineered a road traffic accident in the dead of the night. They seated the victim in the driver's seat, deliberately crashed the car (the accused's own) and intentionally set it alight, completely charring the car and its occupant. He disappeared but the plan didn't actually work - thankfully. The police soon came to the conclusion that the body belonged to another man whose wife had reported him as missing for 2 days. She identified him from the remnants of his burned underwear - the only thing they were able to retrieve from the crime scene. Remember this was an age when modern DNA testing methods were still in their infancy. Their suspicion rose further when they paid a visit to the accused's house. The relatives didn't look to be particularly distressed and they were even witnessed to be eating chicken - this NEVER happens in a grieving Indian household. The clinching evidence came when one of the main accused's accomplices and neighbor came to the police station for questioning. He was wearing a neatly pressed full sleeve shirt - again something of an anomaly. Upon interrogation, they found he was wearing it to conceal the burn wounds he'd sustained on his forearms whilst setting the car alight. And then, the house of lies they built quickly collapsed like a pack of cards. P. S - The crime was solved but they never captured Mr Kurup, the criminal who faked his own death. He's been on the run ever since. They were close to catching him multiple times; so much so that once they broke into his hotel room to notice the tea in the cup was still warm - a la Pablo Escobar. If he's alive today, he'd be around 80 years old. A fugitive on a never ending run; a lifetime in hiding - perhaps a greater punishment than anything else?

[@6Persona6Ignotus6]

Why would a grieving Indian household never eat chicken?

[@downtoearth5443]

@@6Persona6Ignotus6 That's the custom here. Meat of any sort is avoided in a grieving household.

[@Dhruv_Dogra]

A story worth recounting. Thanks for sharing

[@6Persona6Ignotus6]

@@downtoearth5443 Thanks for your reply, did not saw a notication, ok so meat is not eating during that time, why? Is that because meat is relative exspensive and its more seen as something special or celebratory?

[@downtoearth5443]

@@6Persona6Ignotus6 The latter, my friend. It's seen as a bit of a celebratory dish and is shunned on such solemn occasions

[@zoeye7095]

The fact that they could have just sold off some properties and been fine is what makes it even worse what they did to their kids and the fraud.

[@blairforbes1132]

It just makes no sense to me. They could have easily fixed the problem, and yet they did something so ridiculous.

[@TrustMeIKnowEverything]

They are just really dumb people. Mortgaged up to the eye balls with no real equity in their properties lol.

[@Bergen98]

Good for both sons for not wanting anything to do with their parents. It is probably meaningless to their father, but it is the worst punishment for the mother.

[@markwilson3414]

The father sold the story for a book deal and the hole family live close together and are very very wealthy these days

[@SamWhelan94]

​@markwilson3414 scams always prevail in the UK we get scammed daily by the government its all we know here 😢😂

[@TrustMeIKnowEverything]

​@@SamWhelan94name me a country that doesn't happen in 🤡

[@yuknn25]

It's astounding that they would throw everything away including their relationship with their sons for such a measly amount of money by their living standards.

[@anxmxl]

Or for any money at all

[@jameshart3879]

Debt makes people desperate

[@Akaascha]

​@@pychang21maybe they have and succeed. That's why you don't hear about them.

[@OyekanWahab]

​@@pychang21no

[@daciasdiy1861]

How much money was it ?

[@elenawilliams32]

To choose money over your children. Their boys were shattered thinking that their Dad was dead. Finding out that not only was he alive but that their Mum was in on it too.... Vile parents. Truly shite parents for putting their children through this!

[@Melissa-yr7fm]

If he was/is a narc, they may not have cared as much as you think. Some children it narcs, feel like their parents death is sort of a blessing.

[@stuffedgrubs]

Nothing worse than losing ya dad.. Imagine finding he's alive then losing him again with mum.. Poor kids

[@biekemeees6397]

Nothing worse than finding out your father was willing to never see or hear from you again, as well as cause you such pain just for a paycheck. Literally traded his sons for money. Can't imagine giving up my kids for any amount of money. And I don't even have any!

[@Sjalabais]

Imagine all the cost to society here. All the rescue work, police research, legal followups and court proceedings, jail, and quite probable mental health damage to their sons. This is all socialized cost for a narcissist's weird idea of how to run from debt.

[@nikieberhardt4624]

Exactly. Why didn't he just announce bankruptcy instead of this nonsense?

[@kimamo8563]

"Creed Bratton has never declared bankruptcy, when Creed Bratton gets in trouble he transfers his debt to William Charles Schneider."

[@whatspoppinsam]

''I DECLARE BANKRUPTCYYYY''

[@lisboay8086]

can’t imagine doing this to your own children! how despicable

[@Mike--Oxmall]

They really could have just moved to the other side of the country, changed his appearance a little with say a new haircut and glasses and just lay low from the children and they would have gotten away with it. Yes they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky journalist who googled their names and found a picture of them posing together in Panama on the first link he clicked on. Im not even making that up, thats how they were caught, a google search.

[@farhanatashiga3721]

I mean the initial fuse was him deciding to just suddenly turn up in London claiming amnesia lol If he hadn't done that I doubt anyone would bother

[@youtubeis...]

was this a scuby doo pun? lol

[@Mike--Oxmall]

@@youtubeis... yes man lol

[@khrystianniyoko5619]

Omg this comment wins the internet #criedlaughing 😅🤣😅

[@lewisc9959]

Bro, only $250k in life insurance! Lmao! At least get a million or two.

[@wildnfree101]

That was just one cheque, I think he got just over £750,000 in total.

[@InquisitiveBaldMan]

@@wildnfree101 At the time it was closer to 2 dollars to the pound too. So it would have been well over a million dollars.

[@Mike--Oxmall]

@@InquisitiveBaldMan Yes and considering how much cheaper everything was, they were set for life.

[@brunolerman2108]

When did they go to Panama? How did they got the payments? Who took the stupid picture? How was it found? Vice doing a neat work as usual.

[@jackvanlierop6090]

Sometime, somehow, someone, someway. Vice, hire me 😅

[@dashino2839]

​@@jackvanlierop6090😂😂😂

[@scovyaporsha]

Insurance Money.. The Estate Agent in Panama usually took Pictures of their New Buyers etc.

[@heysoph.9]

I know! I want the rest of the story dammit

[@Channel66678]

Those poor son's. I have 1son & could NEVER lie to him about his father, even though he left us when he was only 6Yrs old. They're both disgraceful parents 💯😡

[@biekemeees6397]

Could you imagine trading in seeing your kids NEVER again just for a paycheck? Wtf!

[@kwameoroo2530]

They could have told this story in a more coherent form and still kept their choppy format.

[@penguinqueen7852]

I remember when this happened near where I lived and the bloke is still laughed and talked about to this day as though he was a local legend lmao

[@Reece-Mincher3601]

Almost pmsl when someone called it Seaton Canoe 😂

[@LotusAuer]

"I figured I was worth more dead than alive." This man spittinhg straight facts

[@orangewarm1]

Why the hell are they taking photos?

[@Thrill_Hou]

Either arrogance or stupidity.

[@PsyMongSki]

Because they were in Panama and they knew they couldn't be made to go back to the UK so what's to loose. Also they were stupid. The ohoto o. The site was removed but you could fund it useing the way back machine website. You still can

[@madzen112]

'Opened a letter by mistake' 😁😆😀

[@dbk78]

There's a great ITV show about this called The Thief, His Wife and The Canoe

[@annea5781]

I’ll look for it

[@youtubeis...]

And just like all narcissists when hes caught he goes public for more attention.

[@staceyshere]

First heard about this case on Swindled (podcast) some years ago. All I can say is the audacity!

[@xvsupremacy7190]

John Darwin was first was in the Military , then an officer in Holme House Prison , so was accustomed to people disappearing . I think he had been part of the 77th Brigade. So knew the score . Loads of people knew John Darwin was still alive and about . I don’t think his sons did, they are reconciled to their mother.

[@Thegooblygoo]

Is it necessary to have a 2 minute intro showing what's about to be said in the next 8 minutes of a 10 minute video?

[@dustingirard7118]

Exactly!

[@travismechanic]

Also she’s a keeper!!! 😅

[@dogshiin]

It would be interesting to fake my death one day, although I'd let most of my trusted family members know the truth. I wouldn't really do it for money but for privacy, and to be able to send odd messages from the shadows.

[@MarvinYoani]

Would be a cool arg not gonna lie

[@Dhruv_Dogra]

Only if you are schizoid...

[@Piccolo...]

I wish you luck.

[@TylerMcCaughey]

Mate just shut up like.

[@realtalk675]

Waiting for tupac to come back with elvis

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Disgusting. More so for their kids. That's who I feel for

[@travismechanic]

A huge search and it was only a day n a half search 😅

[@jamesparker3822]

That is a huge search where I live. If you lost in the North sea you won't survive more than 10 to 15 minutes maximum in normal clothes as its so cold or 2 hours in a submersion suit. So a 12 hour search is usually the maximum time as its impossible someone will be alive for that time.

[@jordansaintemarie]

Do you know how much money that would have cost?!

[@maestrovso]

@@jordansaintemarie Costed more than all the money he stole.

[@chicagogyrl4846]

He probably got this idea from the movie “The Running Man”, about an Englishman who fakes his death for insurance money!! 😂🤣

[@TheWeardale1]

certainly put seaton canoe on the map LMAO

[@-..-_]

And he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids

[@dawndawn45]

😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😂😂😂 Omg this is showing our age!!!

[@georgenaidoo9553]

I would do this for life insurance and go to somewhere like Mauritius....and never leave

[@willcook1530]

You'd almost say the guy is worth a "Darwin" award eh? ...Ok I'll see myself out.

[@sr2172]

How could you stay in a house for 5 years, hearing you children's voices and not want to see them?

[@eazybreezye]

Twitch Streamers be like.... It's not that bad to live 24/7 in my room. 😂😂😂😂

[@joenegrin3667]

I did not know people in the UK call kayaks canoes. In North America the boat involved would be called a kayak.

[@lion1368]

We don't actually, the people talking messed it up. If you go to an sports shop you'll find kayaks and canoes named correctly and are two distinct things.

[@yogyal292]

That’s what you call real criminals

[@G-spookyk4zs]

Am I the only one who realizes it was a kayak and not a canoe

[@BrimstoneMoth]

the solution for this, is to stop making that kind of insurances, insurances should only cover each person's needs, once you are dead, you are dead. The money just gets recycled for someone else... No one profits from it. Problem solved!

[@kildogery]

The TV version of this was good.

[@UrsaMusic]

*KAYAK*. That’s a red kayak.

[@Mike-01234]

Smile on their faces then the picture of them both frowning after they were caught.

[@aprillondon11]

God, they must’ve really disliked their sons.

[@jademoon7938]

I am trying so hard to focus on the story but every time they say "red canoe" it drives me nuts. THAT'S A KAYAK. My people invented canoes. The Inuits and Far Northern Peoples invented kayaks. One is a large, fully open boat, that can fit like 5 people or three and some stuff. It's not easy to canoe by yourself. You need to know all about being in stern and steering with an oar and you need to be strong. The other is a solo boat with a closed body and double sided oar that you can easily steer and move by yourself. One is designed to fly across lakes and down rivers. The other is designed for the ocean and you can easily recover from a capsize with a roll. Might seem like nothing to other people but I'm sorry IT'S NOT A CANOE lol.

[@Roxality]

Did they get back together after prison?

[@Bombay1618]

5:25 actual question: where is this man's accent from? As an American. Thanks.

[@Thrill_Hou]

That’ll be a north eastern English accent; he could be from Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Gateshead, Durham, etc.

[@Bombay1618]

@@Thrill_Hou It sounded a wee bit Scottish, though I knew it wasn't, compared to other English accents, such as South London. You know, America has more hilarious accents (NY, Louisiana, Deep Texas), but Britain has more, albeit less hilarious, accents, in such a smaller area. Thanks!

[@Bombay1618]

@@Thrill_Hou Checks out. Thanks!

[@thomasmccrae4139]

hes from middlesbrough, it has a unique accent, source (im from there).

[@NosyFella]

@@Thrill_Hou or Hartlepool which is where Seaton Carew actually is!

[@vonniofdoom5590]

Looks like he had no money for retirement

[@tylerhackner9731]

Yikes I never liked people like this

[@anyexpat]

Really up to date this was 16 years ago

[@weinerdogirl]

How much was the life insurance they scammed for tho? Like if it was less than 100,000k why in the hell would they do that to themselves?

[@erichaninga2585]

Isn't there a movie about this man?? His plan was genius 😂😂💯

[@danielf986]

Hollywood studios rubbing their hands…

[@Mike--Oxmall]

A few documentaries and tv movie. I remember this like it was yesterday, it was so hilarious. He would have gotten away with it too if they just chose somewhere else to live but they wanted to live in Panama.

[@erichaninga2585]

He didn't have to take anyone's life the rest of the culprits that attempt to defraud insurance companies

[@annea5781]

@@Mike--Oxmalllike where?

[@Mike--Oxmall]

@@annea5781 Anywhere else. He travelled to the USA several times and was ripped off my some woman he tried to have an affair with. The issue with Panama was that they wanted to buy and run a hotel business but Panama had recently passed a law that required foreign nationals to have birth certificates and marriage certificates to buy property. They didnt know this and had already invested their money so then the whole idea came up of him pretending he had amnesia to get his old identity back. That was their entire downfall.

[@gamerguy696]

Mr Ballen done an episode on this.

[@hfs212000]

I wonder how they are doing now

[@charlessmith3940]

Why did he turn himself in after 5 years?

[@rileycorrigan5593]

It's not really explained in the video. Panama changed their visa laws and he wouldn't be able to pass as his new identity. That's where the clip of him saying he couldn't pass as a 21 year old is from. With no way to stay in Panama, he had to return to Britian and pretend to be amnesiac. Which utterly failed.

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

wish i could do that, like dale gribble style!

[@ChicagoPTN]

Andrew is hold in jail with no charge and let’s not talk about the probe behind him

[@stephaniejean2426]

Oh, the irony.

[@BadzTheNewGood]

We have in Cape Town recently.

[@27mazza]

Why is vice not on the list?

[@batchagaloopytv5816]

its gotta be hard to lie thru thsed bbb be

[@thetruthshallstand1504]

I’m not mad at him at all - what a world !

[@nadine8742]

Wtf?

[@KimParkerPabalinga]

​@@nadine8742What he said!

[@glowindark64]

Good luck with your brain worms bud

[@OhCeCelia]

Click where is says: ▶️ Pretending to die in a canoe accident

[@austinl1320]

This video makes no sense. It’s all over the place with everything. It should follow the timeline of events and be more detailed, but instead it just bounces around

[@khurramkhurshed9427]

Interesting information

[@rmcrae62]

It worked a lot better when Reggie Perrin did it

[@orangewarm1]

It's probably better to file bankruptcy. Move your assets to somewhere else. Your debts get written off. How's he gonna earn if he's dead? Or remove funds from his accounts?

[@ohno-zx4if]

Money money money 💴 💴💴💴💴 Makes people do the strangest things to get it and keep it.

[@nickfranklin717]

Insurance is a scam and is usery it needs to change

[@ronaldli5]

This was a bit too much dramatization for something not too deserving of it, isn't it? 250000 pounds fraud and a six year sentence crime says it all really.. Like.. You have so little material to share that you decide to dramatize this small piece of news?..

[@jessicajones8872]

That's what u do when u owe the IRS...., PLAY DEAD

[@SapBoy365]

Typical

[@phucknuts.7065]

I could never do that on my kids.

[@royaldiadem_]

Usual Suspect

[@ClaudioNoClip]

evil couple

[@carolynfehr]

Avaricious.

[@alexanderblohme5044]

Give him a Darwin Award?🥇 😂

[@connosaurus]

*kayak

[@cw_uk]

you can't talk about being clever and use the word "cleverer"

[@Reece-Mincher3601]

It's a real word and a real suffix, numbskull 😂

[@SinclairPoppins]

It’s funny thinking he he tricked his sons

[@hranko3143]

9 minutes longer than it needed to be.

[@breanybaby]

Leave him alone tbh

[@realnaveen]

Informant is dark comedy based on true story. In this case wife knew but in Informant wife is also confused till the end. 🤭

[@siiyaosullivan7932]

lol

[@ZGG991]

Some of these comments though. Lol 😂

[@eddyvilla4154]

If it wasn’t for that snitch he would be alright. People need to start minding their business.

[@chipperjoneszz]

Hey Trump!

[@Joy-hk3iv]

SAUL GOODMAN

[@kaorufusumada20]

You guys owe the tate brothers an apology from making, that stupid video with those fake victims

[@brigidlynch8791]

Second

[@frantic1233]

This is what I want to see vice. Less woke more real stuff.

[@thaazian]

First

[@michaellowe3204]

I’m going back home now I have a doctors note for my dad so I’ll call him later and see what I need for you and I’ll text

[@BonShula]

These bots are not making any sense now

[@gafak47]

@@BonShula 🤣

[@sammctagger5451]

That’s right. Turn off your comments about the Tate documentary but open them here. You spread lies and false rhetoric.

[@jeffpienta4532]

LMAO. Got a bottom G over here. Can't believe his puppets are still crying over his arrest. They simply reported what they saw

[@sammctagger5451]

@@jeffpienta4532 why turn off comments then? Vice gets to freely report on others yet restrict what others say through turning off comments. Who are the individuals you look up to?

[@jeffpienta4532]

@@sammctagger5451 because they already comment bombed a preview for the video before it came out. I'm assuming they foresaw the same thing happening. I look up to people around me and in my life, writers like Hunter S. Thompson, I don't look up to celebrities or online personas. I'm not going to pay for a bald insecure man to treat me like a cuck. Crazy how much his fan base rides his dick. They turned the comments off for other videos, do I agree with it, not really. But he's been arrested and they aren't letting him appeal, I'm sure the legal system will make quick work, and his fan base will claim it's the matrix and that powerful people really care about what happens to a lover boy scammer

[@Thrill_Hou]

@@sammctagger5451 maybe because VICE knew it’ll be full of Andre Tate sycophants crying that he’s been locked up.

[@TrustThePlan]

All man for themselves. Trust nothing, not even your underwear.

[@TrustMeIKnowEverything]

Why didnt he just sell his properties🤡

[@AlexJordanRealOG]

Deleted comments on Andrew Tate episode cowards

[@18aplateindoors]

Shoutout ANDREW TATE

[@Tom_Samad]

I wouldn't blame his sons for not wanting to have anything to do with their father ever again, or their mother.

[@therealshange]

We have a story unfolding in South Africa right now "Facebook Rapist". Guy was convicted and sentenced. Engineered a prison escape in which he was presumed dead as official found a dead body burned beyond recognition in his solitary confinement cell. DNA recently proved the body wasn't his and he's been spotted numerous time shopping in Sandton City...

[@meghan42]

Get him!

[@Hedmanification]

Does anyone know How he manager to escape?

[@vogelvogeltje]

Dis malligheid!!!

[@farhanatashiga3721]

He's just been caught again

[@skybyrt8551]

@@Hedmanification the article said he had help from the guards

[@BonShula]

I would fake my own death to avoid the IRS

[@SATX_]

IRS: Noted

[@avonfettydale9166]

😂😂😂

[@mxss334]

ini

[@Thrill_Hou]

I’m on the phone to the IRS as we speak “Yep, his name is Fisherman Joe”🗣️

[@maestrovso]

I suggest try a cover story of hooking a giant marlin only to be pulled out to sea and never to be seen again.

[@monwadlamini4220]

And he would’ve gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for that meddling Journalist!!

[@Penrose707]

I feel terrible for the boys who thought they were to live the rest of their lives without a father. Heart breaking

[@orangewarm1]

He would have gotten in touch at some point.

[@ulnmh43]

Shut up dear

[@Johnycum]

They definably knew but didn't want their sons getting implicated as well.

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Well he will get what he wished for

[@Johnycum]

@Prof. Weed yeah I watched it still doesn't change the fact it would be better to lie and not all go down...