I did thiss challenge about a year ago in the NES version, the bugs in the nes version make it so much more fun
@Nevict10 ай бұрын
I like how leveling works in FF2.
@MienpraKhmertomtomАй бұрын
by attack oneself.
@devinbuettgenbach294110 ай бұрын
Before I even watch this: Yes you can, I have done it. Turning everyone into uber mages is hilariously broken if you are patient enough. Also tossing in some bare knuckle shenanigans makes it even better because then you can essentially make a team of Fairy Tail dragon/godslayers
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
Helps that being barehanded makes your spells more effective.
@Cyril8610 ай бұрын
@@reloadpsi Wait, it does? FF2 is weird, man.
@RoninCatholic10 ай бұрын
Any armor stronger than Mythtil also makes your spells weaker.
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm225710 ай бұрын
Oh hey. I like Fairy tail.
@SaanMigwell9 ай бұрын
I did it once too. I think I was 24. Destroyed FF2. Me and one of my soldiers took turns grinding at outposts with a GBA.
@DumBinchJuscal10 ай бұрын
As someone who has done challenge runs in ff2, i was like: "Oh yeah, that will be easy" Then it hit me; "Wait, we aren't just spamming Berserk, Haste, and Aura in this run"
@DarkFrozenDepths10 ай бұрын
You don't even need that much if the optional dungeon is there to get the character unique weapons... or can do the matching minigame after getting toad to lv16
@michaeljohnson690510 ай бұрын
Two streamers on Twitch, who do an annual series replay with entry specific challenges, just did a run of II with no magic or swords. It was pain x]
@mr.katain409510 ай бұрын
I actually like this game- it's a shame it gets the amount of hate it does. I have liked all the FF games (yes, 8 and 13 as well). This is an interesting challenge to tackle in this game!
@Primalliquid9210 ай бұрын
i agree FF2 is actually in my top 5
@knightsurda10 ай бұрын
FF8 is the only final fantasy I loathe playing, but thats due to my ineptitude as a child getting to disc 4 at level 100 wondering why the game just keeps getting harder, was the max level higher or was I undergeared? Nope turns out im a dumbass and made the game unwinnable and because im so stubborn I refuse to play the game again from the start to fix my mistake ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 isn't bad once you get the ball rolling, it takes a bit to get there though and not a lot of people have that kind of patience.
@Iavasechui6 ай бұрын
@@Primalliquid92absolutely love ff2 so fun to just break the game ^_^
@uidsea10 ай бұрын
If there's a way to speed up the grind, always do it. We aren't trying to make you waste hours for no reason.
@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa629810 ай бұрын
You're an absolute madlad for subjecting yourself to this, but I'm all for it. Also, the FF series really loves to use the "boss burns down towns" trope.
@Buff_Marksmen10 ай бұрын
It hurt my soul to see you put so much armor on them because it actually lowers their magic damage considerably. If you make them just have mage armor then their damage will sky rocket. Makes the challenge a bit easier because you can one rotation most enemies
@locke1039 ай бұрын
Ha... imagine if the Int/Soul penalty were still a thing
@randydapurpleboy4 ай бұрын
@@locke103 true, they removed these penalties in future releases (from GBA onwards, correct me if im wrong) but what armor actually DOES is reducing your evasion significantly (also the chance of increasing evasion is diminished you basically will not increase evasion ever) when i play ff2, first thing i do is remove armor, helmets and others to get high evasion, and if you wanna crank up the evasion some more put in your left and right hand shields, also always get better shields since the better the shield, the higher your evasion increases (your evasion also increases whenever your weapon level goes up characters probably learn how to parry with their weapons which could be the reason for that.)
@Redmage9132 ай бұрын
Pixel remaster makes this more difficult by dual shielders having a melee attack each round. It boosts more stats, which is nice, but you can’t abuse the full shielding attack rounds any more. The other rebalancing has been quite nice. I turned off HP boosting, and am playing it straight through. I accidentally did the ocean cave way too early, but I’m about to go back to Altair to begin the fake Hilda arc.
@AstrumKitten09110 ай бұрын
I only seen the start so far. But Teleport in this game is OP it can teleport a lot of endgame bosses at high levels.
@benjiiiiiiiii10 ай бұрын
Yep there's not much it can't get, IIRC it's just undead, flans, golems, and some unique bosses that are immune.
@HarbingerYT10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you do a Challenge run for World Of Final Fantasy. Maybe beating the game as only Lann and Reynn?
@mekataclsim621510 ай бұрын
The thing with pixel remaster ff games is they are more for nostalgia purposes,not quite for challenges for general playthrough. This is the only problem i have about pixel remastered FFs. Good to know that people think out side the box lol. Good vid.
@strategyplayer198810 ай бұрын
Currently playing this all the way through for the first time. Loving the game!
@rommyremus965010 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this game. I liked that every battle mattered because of the way you got stronger. What you did during a fight actually mattered. Very different very 😎
@starpowerel71729 ай бұрын
if you like ff2 i highly recommend the saga series, they have pretty similar level up system and all sorts of cool diffirent gimmicks you can use
@MinervaNeuhart10 ай бұрын
Flare in FF2 is essentially a black magic equivalent to holy. Both do physical damage.
@Valerik0110 ай бұрын
It's nice to see one of these challenges that actually looks fun to play. Lol
@SpJrD10 ай бұрын
Nice! I like your challenges!!
@ZeusTheIrritable10 ай бұрын
I've spent an uncomfortable percentage of my lifetime trying to level up magic in this game.
@deathblade3210 ай бұрын
I did a double equip of shield, fought the commanders, then spammed attack 100 times, swapped the shields out for weapons, to power level weapons so they could be 16 at the start of the game
@ZeusTheIrritable10 ай бұрын
@@deathblade32 I might have to try that.
@deathblade3210 ай бұрын
@@ZeusTheIrritable With the way the leveling formula works its for weapons is (Current battle rating - current weapon rating) + 10 + actions in combat (cap 100) The max xp needed for weapon level is 100 so this guarantees a level up since the commander is a 5 combat rating that doesn't run away
@ZeusTheIrritable10 ай бұрын
@@deathblade32 I always did the tried and true method of beating the snot out the party with a single weak enemy watching in confusion.
@DarkFrozenDepths10 ай бұрын
If you're patient enough, you can get ultima to do over 9000 damage. And no, I'm not saying that cause of the meme. This game is so hilariously easy to overgrind in. I knew this wouldn't be that much of a challenge unless you intentionally keep stats low. Even a SINGLE character can do this run easily if you're grinding enough.
@imperiusvogt974010 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos, always nice to watch ff challenge runs. I've been playing them for 30 years, and never have I become bored with them. Excellent
@aarondeemer561010 ай бұрын
Solid, now looking forward to Solo Magic Only 😀
@benjiiiiiiiii10 ай бұрын
It's probably faster to solo the game since menuing just Firion over to Teleport away all foes in one action is way faster than menuing four characters all game.
@zakatalmosen59846 ай бұрын
I love this game so much... Maria: "Hey Firion, how are we going to get strong enough to defeat the Emperor? Are we going to slaughter scores of demons in some remote dungeon for training?" Firion: "Nah, let's take a walk outside Altair and beat the shit out of each other for hours while a goblin watches. Also, we should probably be naked. Oh and constantly rain fire down on us during the whole session." Maria: "I think we should see other people."
@benjiiiiiiiii10 ай бұрын
This is actually my favorite mainline FF
@MrGaiakid10 ай бұрын
The way he says "Lamia" is like nails on a chalk board to me. It's "La-Mia" not "La-MeyeAh"
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
I think at this point he's doing it on purpose as he's got a lengthy KZbin career of mispronunciations and malapropisms. Once you get used to it it's quite charming.
@brentrichard952910 ай бұрын
@Primalliquid idk if you ever knew, but there is a hidden mechanic for magic damge that is based off what your armor weight. I learned this from another youtuber HCBailly, he has done alot of research for finding out all the mechanics of the game and the heavier your equipment is the less magic damage you do. I cant remember if its magic accuracy or actual base damage. If you need more information on it, i highly looking at HCBailly's FF2 videos to get some information on that.
@locke1039 ай бұрын
A lot of earlier FF games used early D&D elements. As in, consider what armor does. It protects you, yes. But it weighs you down. Magic requires focus, maybe specific hand movements. If armor hinders their ability to utilize magic, of course potency will drop faster than the soap in a federal prison. Imagine a Cure10 targeting your whole party, and everyone only recovers 30-ish HP per cast. That's the system at work. That's the "design flaw" that adds a bit of logic to how fantasy elements COULD work.
@raddie179910 ай бұрын
this is a challenge that i would love to try myself too, so thank you for making this vid!
@PunkStar76767610 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos. They help my sanity regularly.
@SaanMigwell9 ай бұрын
FF2 would've surpassed FF originals had square released it in the US. I'm just thinking about my 10 year old self. The modern gripes would not have existed, and we would have thought the system was the "best" rpg system. I was a nerd though, most of my friends preferred SMB, Contra, Life Force, Tecmo bowl etc. But my best friend named after Lake Tahoe, well; we found, rented, and beat every NES rpg we could get our hands on. Never beat Tombs and Treasures though.
@ZorotheGallade10 ай бұрын
Guy broke the challenge rules when he spoke beaver. Speaking beaver is not a magic spell.
@JosephJohnson-gu5fw10 ай бұрын
I find it funny how everybody always talks about how final fantasy 2 is one of the worst games and yet I'm finishing it up right now and it's one of the favorite games that I've ever played I think. I realize that the original version may be not quite as polished and accessible as the pixel remaster but the pixel remaster version that I'm playing is a great game and I am very much enjoyed it
@Rain-sr9pp10 ай бұрын
Great song choice for the video
@KainDrake10 ай бұрын
Hey, you defended with Gordon. You broke your own rule. 😆
@Sombrelame6 ай бұрын
i just finished FF2 PRand i found magic completely broken most of my melee attacks were really weak against bosses for some reason, must be something i didn't understood while my magic user was fine for almost the whole game (only exception is the red soul) no joke my melee were doing 100 on the final boss while magic nuked it also i barely did any farming, most of my run i just used magic during all fights and my mp/int/spells increased naturally, by the time i was at the cyclone, fire/blizzard/thunder were lv8 anyways, love your content, keep the good work
@keithmccall290210 ай бұрын
I'm always impressed by the magic only runs without ethers.
@callmehkyle660910 ай бұрын
I started an “attack only” ff2 run. Was planning on doing a magic only run after because I hate myself.
@annikamyren302610 ай бұрын
😂
@staren199110 ай бұрын
now the question is... can you beat FF1 with 4 black mages ?
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
I've done it. I didn't have fun.
@AstroTibs9 ай бұрын
17:57 You chose "Defend" with Josef. Maybe your rule set needs to be fleshed out more.
@MechaOracle10 ай бұрын
I love FF 2 because it's the first of the "junction" FF games (FF2, 6, 7, and 8) and was so ahead of its time. With a proper leveling system for the characters, or at least a less bad one, it would be even better. I did a no grind challenge once, basically had to plan out every step and take the shortest distance between two points. It was 1.5 hells.
@marcosaguilar562210 ай бұрын
I was honestly looking for this challenge a week ago and was sad to not see anyone do this haha. I commend you
@sergioontiveros49844 ай бұрын
FF2 had one of my favorite mechanics in the use it to level it mechanic
@DaGreatBrandonie10 ай бұрын
Are you ever going to platinum the other pixel remaster games?
@DerTiefenentspannte8 ай бұрын
FF2 has many flaws, but i still like it. You made yourself a real Challenge there. Every weapons exept staff and knife, every shield and every heavy armor lowers your magic. Attack and healing. This effect stacks, so the more you have equipped from the above, the weaker you'll get.
@johncameron193510 ай бұрын
You know, looking at Josef there, that didn't look like a spell. Looks like that run is invalid doesn't it?
@patbrown78310 ай бұрын
Hands down the best FF
@quinkelly144110 ай бұрын
Getting ultima to level 16 take a long time the grind is real.
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
Thankfully it's actually worth it in this version.
@polaris555410 ай бұрын
Ff2 is a great game I love breaking this game.
@Azarif36710 ай бұрын
Great video!
@000Codex10 ай бұрын
Just signed up for a monthly Ko-Fi and I can honestly say that using the speed up for grinding (time and xp) is only a good thing. Means less grief for you and more video for us.
@kalythai10 ай бұрын
I would suggest a fists-only FF2 run but that might be too easy.
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
Yep :P
@abluejazz268010 ай бұрын
I remember doing this on NES with my best friend during highschool. It's easy if you know what magic Is broken and make it easy.
@danielhartmann242510 ай бұрын
I love FF2 and 3 from the pixel remasters!
@JuliaSin10 ай бұрын
In honor of rule 3. Praise to the Baha!
@AwsserGaming10 ай бұрын
Hello , you say the magic is weak but i'm prety sure the magic damage is nerf if you equipe gear, you should try too remove equipement on 1 character and test if the damage change
@godsplayingfield10 ай бұрын
FF3 onion knight only. pixel master version. good luck lol (honestly think this would be nigh impossible without grinding to jblvl 99 at the very start. dont even get spells in the pixelmaster like the 3ds versions. but the reward would be getting the onion gear and making the final boss beyond easy)
@pheonixmmkc10 ай бұрын
I've done blue jobs only and it's quite a struggle, outside of NES glitches, I don't think it's possible
@theoryjoe145110 ай бұрын
If you're thinking a solo Firion run is worth doing, it's not as hard as you think. Since you're the only target, your HP raises faster.
@Primalliquid9210 ай бұрын
i know that was why i did magic only instead of solo character
@sebastianlucas70410 ай бұрын
It's not hp, it's evasion. Evasion is busted in this game. Just get it up to 5-50, and watch as most attacks miss you. Evasion also snowballs in levels. This means, it levels up faster later on. 8-99 make you nigh untouchable.
@senjo399 ай бұрын
I believe soul of rebirth ff2 expansion on the gba was more challenging for me. You use the dead characters from ff2 and if you didn’t level their stats and spells you were screwed
@cj_skywalker10 ай бұрын
i really need to get back to work on this game's trophies. :)
@Azenatrail10 ай бұрын
Have you heard of Etrian Odyssey?
@kiriannapatrick724310 ай бұрын
Yay! You did it!
@kingheenokgaming478310 ай бұрын
The hard part is never ever bosses. Its the fight to get there so if you use no encounter this game is too easy.
@mindlessmeat405510 ай бұрын
I actually really liked ff2
@Narutsist10 ай бұрын
What's the background music?
@DuckAvenger10 ай бұрын
Commenting at the start of the video but seems like one of the easier challenges. Just got to get good at casting magic with 2x speed and you will get the 10k max in no time.
@Naldito1510 ай бұрын
Can you beat ff7 only using chocobo mog
@nemeziskill2 ай бұрын
Isnt early magic only hard on gold? I think that with no x4 gold drop you would run out of money on healing mp compere to gold got from monster. Or did they incrise gold drop on pixle remaster
@Anime-Doom10 ай бұрын
Love these challenge and Overpowered videos but please change up your music a little, as good as FF9's soundtrack is it's not the only one with a God-tier OST and no matter how good a song is it's never a good idea to have it be the only one in the background for an entire video.
@mindlessmeat405510 ай бұрын
I think the spell is barrier, doesn't that block a lot of stat debuffs? I think I recall a spell that blocks some.
@locke1039 ай бұрын
Aura, which was glitched in the FC version
@rocketmaster2310 ай бұрын
Im guessing toad and mini dont act as instant kill spells in this version of the game since thats 100% what i was expecting to happen lol. Guessing its only original and ps1 anthology versions
@Abysslover9110 ай бұрын
It's in the nes version too
@rawcoustic171810 ай бұрын
What version is this?
@locke1039 ай бұрын
It's in every version
@retronemesis706410 ай бұрын
Can you beat ff2 using only drops?
@djrakman390910 ай бұрын
DO FINAL FANTASY 8 WITH ONLY MAGIC NEXT....
@Primalliquid9210 ай бұрын
i have done... check the playlist int he description xD
@djrakman390910 ай бұрын
@@Primalliquid92 I could only see the requiem and ragnorak mods. i could not find a FF8 magic only challenge....
@frodofranz10 ай бұрын
if you needed a boost doesnt double shields in the backrow give you basically max evasion and take less damage? also if you need an hp and mp boost theres a hp/mp switch spell that will get you an hp boost every fight. but since you are not grinding and just running through the game it could always be easier.
@coryfelker66510 ай бұрын
Can you beat FF4 with only Cecil?
@WoobertAIO6 ай бұрын
I like how you named the guy who can't articulate sentences properly "Twitter" lmao
@miloclarke617110 ай бұрын
Weapons and armor also penalize magic too
@bellkins3 ай бұрын
FF2 is one of my favorite FF's. I enjoy watching your videos, but FF2 was on the Famicom, not the NES.
@AstroTibs9 ай бұрын
The grind is *three times faster
@armaleyvaten278210 ай бұрын
I can only imagine who wrote in rule #3...😉
@thegreatwalrus1534 ай бұрын
Fast forward option is fine with me
@miloclarke617110 ай бұрын
Why double shields.. they have a huge magic penalty for shield that stack
@Primalliquid9210 ай бұрын
because the extra evasion works out far better earlier on
@marcoschukerberga141810 ай бұрын
Imagine if they ditch the stat progression method and change it to normal exp gain and levels, people would still consider it final fantasy 2? is the only game I tried and never finish it because i never adapted to this new system
@retronemesis706410 ай бұрын
At least you are playing the pixel remaster and not that psp version.
@darkholyPL9 ай бұрын
Funny think is I was going to suggest this as a challenge run, if you didn't do it yet. Well, nvm eh? ;)
@silentwyvern8 ай бұрын
"Can You Beat Final Fantasy 2 Using ONLY Magic" Its really not hard. Get warp as soon as possible, carries you til Teleport. Once you get Teleport GG.
@screwtokaiba10 ай бұрын
Hell nah you cant mention a low rate boss drop in a video without reseting for it! #JusticeForLamiaRibbon
@reloadpsi10 ай бұрын
The drop rate isn't even all that low. I ended up with spare ribbons by the end of Pandaemonium.
@moopert8610 ай бұрын
Said this would probably be pretty easy, and I was right.
@Snorlax880110 ай бұрын
Look behind you
@GerBessa10 ай бұрын
Before watching, I'm gonna say "Wild Soul" then watch. Edit: Ok, didn't know holy worked. I tried Solo Black Magic only on DoS years ago and was blocked there.
@kanor1310 ай бұрын
Please do FFX but you can only use bahamut
@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER10 ай бұрын
if it was not so hard to get, i would say do dawn of souls for this run. but im gonna be nice .
@adriancoleman287610 ай бұрын
Can you beat final fantasy VI using only slot?
@praetorxyn10 ай бұрын
One of these days I want to just start the game with a save that has me maxed out in anything and go through wrecking face. The grind in this game is real and saps the joy out of it.
@polaris555410 ай бұрын
The real question is how OP can you get before you have to face the first 4 black Knights? 😜
@JoyousOblivion10 ай бұрын
Like for the Like God, Comment for the Comment Throne!
@miltongleason93010 ай бұрын
I hope the editor can eat..
@sethswaim179710 ай бұрын
Sooooooo...... Why is it that you only have 120k subs? I've been watching your videos for...... A while, and sure, as a Christian there are more important things to do with my time, but as a gamer I think it's a travesty that you don't have more subs. Am I missing something? Cause I'm just gonna blame KZbin. KZbin! GET ON YOUR GAME AND FIX YOUR ALGORITHM! This guy DESERVES WWAAAYYYYYYY MORE SUBS. Keep having fun primalliquid. Jesus loves you. Be blessed.
@spatrk663410 ай бұрын
i have disease where if game lets you grind i will grind. so i never played ff2 because of the way you grind. i can see myself spending hours attacking myself to level up defence. no just no.
@lunarhare421510 ай бұрын
😎👍👍
@rowanmorris218710 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@nos_schroomancer457710 ай бұрын
Potato
@joshuachurch1579Ай бұрын
Comment
@jacobkallenberger890310 ай бұрын
FF 2 was Cecil and Kain
@locke1039 ай бұрын
Wrong. Try again, sailor.
@deatho0ne58710 ай бұрын
Should have done this on the original FF2 on the Famicon, okay maybe emulated. Would have made ultimate pointless.