Prime ANY Alcohol Stove 10 TIMES Faster for $2.99!

Get You Own PaleoHikerMD Patches HERE!: www.etsy.com/s... Oh how I love alcohol stoves. I have many, and each is special. That said, some of them have an issue in that they can take a good while to prime, especially in cooler conditions. Stoves which require the alcohol to heat up enough to vaporize can be slow to get going. This can lead to wasting fuel as you wait for the stove to prime. So, how can you prime your stove 10 times faster?
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[@blackboardbloke]

The Trangia was the fastest, but you don't need a priming pan to make it faster. After filling the reservoir to the required level for what you're heating, put a few drops in the gutter that's formed between the cap screw thread and the outer skin. Light that first, the flame primes and transfers to the centre.

[@neologian1783]

works like a charm

[@carllast5631]

The metal base from a Pringles tube looks very similar and works the same. It has a small ridge around to keep the fuel in and if you eat Pringles (like everyone) its basically FREE.

[@BoycottChinaa]

No! Costs me plenty when your heart attacks the healthcare system!

[@deskmat9874]

Exactly the prices for these stove stuff is an absolute scam, sometimes it's cheaply made and you can get a similar result at home

[@eddieallen6401]

I say this without a hint of irony. I find these alcohol stove videos endlessly fascinating and strangely soothing. Impressive stuff from the Trangia. I was going to buy the winter attachment but this is much lighter and cheaper. And like others have said I'm sure I can make something similar from a can or jar lid. I've heard of people using a tea light to heat up the stove body but this is a neater solution. Great video my friend. Stay safe and keeping boiling water.

[@Red_Proton]

I use a tuna can to improve priming in cold temps.

[@toooldforgaming]

Haw, I just mentioned this in my post, scrolled down and yup there it is. Why pay 2.99 and 10+ for shipping when 25 cents can of tuna can do the same? Hell you can do it with the lid alone.

[@PaulSchortemeyer]

I just tested this out with a tuna can lid...worked like a champ!! Thanks for letting us in on this amazing stove trick 😀

[@wowguy3562]

I stumbled on your channel a few weeks ago and owned zero stoves, now I have 4 and a steampunk eddy on the way. The primer ring looks like an awesome idea I will need to make or buy one. These stove videos are addicting thanks for making them

[@Liberty4Ever]

For gram weenies, a shiny stainless cupcake liner makes a good priming tray and also reflects heat up to make the stove slightly more efficient. The three little divots on the priming tray prevent heat loss into the ground so it'll greatly reduce priming time and improve stove efficiency and heat output on cold days. The Spiguyver pop can stove primes in a few seconds. Be sure to build the latest version.

[@MatoNupai]

Ernie I am the designer of the Mahalo, Topsy Turvy, Ultimate stove and others. I have been singing the praises of a primer tray FOR YEARS. That is the ONLY WAY to go in my Opinion. Saves time, saves fuel, AND HOW I got a pressurized stove to work at -9 degrees at almost 7,000 feet elevation.

[@marmac567]

It doesnt waste fuel.... Start cooking immediately, dont sit there waiting for jets to fire.

[@orraman5427]

I totally agree with you, I've never understood why some people sit and wait for the burner to come to a full bloom if they are using a separate pot stand.

[@mab0852]

I got a similar alumimum tray from the icing lid of grands size cinnamon rolls.

[@jonjonword6222]

Michael Barber haha! Me too!

[@njcranes]

Mmmm. Cinnamon rolls....

[@markmueller5508]

Can’t read my writing? Of course not. You’re a doctor. Thanks for all your videos.

[@techguy9023]

Seems like the Trangia winter attachment idea. I like my Trangia sometimes, sometimes the Fancee Feast but usually the canister stove is hard to beat for weight and ease of use for longer trips. Use what you like.

[@alf3553]

I’ve made a few cat can stoves and I kept the small scraps of carbon felt (1”x 1.5”). I normally use a FireBox 🔥 Nano & a Trangia burner. If I need to pre heat I use a small piece of carbon felt sitting under the Trangia, add a bit of fuel & light them up. Works great.

[@Oldsparkey]

Not being picky ...I've always heard it called , Coming to a bloom or just Blooming when you light the fuel inside the unit. As you said on the Trangia at the 4:20 mark. Priming ( using a 2nd heat source ) would be what you did with the accessory unit ( disk ) the stoves sat on. That would be really helpful with the Vargo alcohol stoves , they take forever. I have tried every one of them and always go back to the Trangia and then the Evernew Titanium. Your 1st 2 stoves look like the White Box Stove which is a really good one. I don't get in a hurry when camping and have used a alcohol stove of some sort for about 60 years now. Today I don't care if the stove of choice is slow since I'm slow today. Like you said , each one is special in it's own right , even my D.I.Y. ones. lol.

[@toooldforgaming]

I knew when I clicked this video the result basically was going to be "Upside down soup can/pickle/cheese jar lid as a base" and I was not disappointed, I wish more people knew about this by default. That said you only need a few drops around the can lid otherwise like you've shown if you fill the lid fully you get a run away stove combustion. Another better version of this is to just stick the alcohol stove inside a tuna can and light the whole thing with a few drops in the tuna can. Whoosh! That said, you should try out the Lixda Titanium Stove if you're showing people about priming pans, the stove itself has a channel you put some alcohol in after filling to prime the stove quickly.

[@bigmac3006]

Great vid. My priming tray is made by Cambells Pork amd Beans, works great.

[@allenbishop9154]

Easy enough to make that accessory plate from the bottom of a vegetable can about 1/4 inch high, then if you want a couple bumps to raise the stove, just a few taps with a hammer and a drift punch. #Upcycle #DIY

[@LongStraightLines]

I have all of these stoves and usually go back to the cat can.. near instant priming and concentrated heat. Used in a Sterno Inferno it's a beast!

[@richardwright6796]

Once again fantastic video,I do believe I'll be ordering one soon. Here in my part of Texas we've been in a burn ban for awhile now. It will sure make a difference. Thanks again!!!😊😊😊😊

[@jarikinnunen1718]

Other trick is warm it up by body heat and start with small amount of fuel. When it start, put fire off and add fuel. Gas canister need primer in winter.

[@johnburgin7478]

Essentially a preheater . Pretty cool . Thanks

[@The_Bearded_Lady]

I like my trangia pre-heater. I normally only use it when it is cold out. But I can see how this plate has some advantages. First $3 versus $13 and more importantly it fits multiple styles of stoves where the trangia is pretty tight and made specifically for the trangia. It might fit others, I've only used it with my trangia and a little one I made myself. There is also a few priming plates and pot stands in one, I don't think I have one but I can see how those might be easier since it is multi function. Looks like they are around $20 though on a fast search. Anyway, I appreciate you doing all these timing videos. I can't tell you how many I've watched and never done myself lol. Appreciate it ;)

[@bazza1carter]

Priming trays are great as your video shows! Perhaps light the primer tray first?

[@pedroclaro7822]

DIY alcohol stoves use a soaked wick on the outside of the stoves, cheap and works great :)

[@skipzimmerman]

Great priming tray! Too bad shipping is 3 times the price at 10 bucks. Going to try making my own until I can get this via Prime.

[@medusaman1]

small paint can lid.

[@Asdf-789]

Bottom of a soda can makes a perfect primer pan. Costs nothing if you repurpose a can from a bin. Works as well.

[@snomanfpv306]

My lunch hours are now centered around learning everything there is to know about alcohol stoves.😁

[@wayneberry8703]

That is fantastic, Ernie, well done 👍🏼

[@bobkelly2447]

interesting.... I just use a jar lid to set the stove on and dribble some alcohol in it and yes it helps allot ! even on the simplest of stoves ! I made a soup can stove that had a ring of 3/8" holes around the base of the can about 1 1/4" from the base and another ring of holes near the top rim.... just pour in the alcohol into the can and light it ! it's the simplest I've seen yet and works very very good and you can set the pot right on it ! I have the top of a 8" cookie tin I use for the pre heater, but a large jar lid will do the trick as well.

[@danielkutcher5704]

Stoves with pot stands do not need priming, nor do Stoves with big holes like a "Supercat", the lightest, fairly durable, single walled aluminum stove that I know of. No pot stand, no primer plate, packs tiny, and pretty simple to use. I cut a piece of disposable aluminum oven liner to the size of my pot, which probably heats the stove by reflecting heat back, and I routinely get quicker boil times than other tests which I have seen. The flat top of the Trangia will take a few drops of alcohol, which will prime it nicely. Note: titanium doesn't hold heat efficiently, so doesn't make the best alcohol stove material. Copper, brass, and aluminum transfer heat very well, but copper is soft and heavy, brass (Trangia, Brasslite) is harder, but heavier than aluminum, which is also cheap (DIY).

[@bigmac3006]

I've been using this method for a while now. Works great!

[@edwardgilmour9013]

Do they prime faster if we put a pot on top? But that obviously works.

[@theoldhobbit3640]

Great experiment and offers users a choice of whether or not to use a priming plate. The one thing I need to add, if you over prime you will boil off your fuel and it will be gone so fast. Priming is great but better it under prime than over prime. Thank you for sharing.

[@HardyBunster]

Trangia do their own winter attachment that snaps onto the bottom of the stove. 👍

[@jtucker4201]

I like the trangia winter attachment since it provides a plate to hold the burner and wick so that there is a lower risk of setting the surroundings on fire like Ernie did with his table and this tray.

[@SnowyAspenHills]

A lot more expensive and probably heavier but much more sophisticated and safer I would say because of the pad the alcohol soaks into.

[@woodsbikes6130]

I definitely agree with those opinions. 🙂

[@tomcatt998]

@@jtucker4201 i just cut down a aluminum cat food can 2 about 3/8",, works perfectly,, don't have a cat??? Then get one !! LOL. 🐈🐈🐈..

[@jerrycollins4893]

The Boundless Voyage has a priming wick. You put alcohol on it and light it. This heats up the stove and primes it.

[@emmanueljesusmacalalag1932]

i am on ther side of a primitive planet, however, u amuse me by ur sweet tongue in explaining wat u do best,MAGNIFICENT!!! KEEP IF UP GUY, GODBLRSS.

[@allanpeterson2364]

Great video that shows how to get an extra minute of boil/cook time. I use a side cutting can opener and make my priming plates out of soup or tuna can tops/bottoms! JMHO

[@hardtruth2039]

The evernew titanium is my favorite commercial alcohol burner/stove. Otherwise I like the larger version Vienna sausage can and tomato paste can fancy feast style alcohol stove.

[@thomasmusso1147]

Good info / reminder .. thanks 👍😊. I use a screw-off lid from a glass jar for my Whitebox Stove.

[@macplus3339]

Wrap some aluminum foil around the bottom of the stove. Pull it away slightly or remove it entirely. put a few drops of fuel into it or better yet, use it to catch any spillage from filling the stove. Place the stove in it and light.

[@woodsbikes6130]

That was a good video Ernie. It would've been interesting to see a comparison using the Pathfinder spirit burner from Self Reliance Outfitters. In any case, you did a good video. Thank you. 🙂 Stay safe everyone. 😎😁

[@adventureswithsteve2981]

Thanks for this video , i was disappointed with boundless voyage until i saw this and tried it with a small lid from a flux can i had

[@tomnoyb8301]

Capillary Groove Stove insta-primes, weighs 11g and has built-in pot-stand. By far the best alcohol stove (having built and tried dozens). Works better because 1) flame points up, not out, 2) primes fast, because the grooved pot-stand is the inside layer, while the containment vessel is outside. Flame thus sticks close to the inner grooved pot-stand and therefore heats fast. Best implementation uses a bottle-can to provide an alcohol containment chamber near the bottom. Design is on inter-web, but Paleo doesn't have one.

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

They ARE the MOST fuel efficient stoves ever.

[@joelrampersad1359]

I agree. Capillary groove stoves are the best all-round alcohol stove, even better than the Fancy Feast stove, in that it needs no extra materials.

[@macdaddykwm1]

The question is, did you actually use less fuel when considering the amount used for the prime?

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

His inexperience is showing here..... You're ONLY supposed to use as much fuel as is needed to get to a bloom and have the primer run out soon thereafter for maximum fuel efficiency. Otherwise, you are correct, it is a waste of fuel.

[@manofthetombs]

I have a Trangia, but will get this plate because I won't always be in Phoenix

[@davidlee6461]

Thank you so much for your input. Do you have any plan to teach us how to DIY prime plate?

[@MrWmburr7]

Do any of your Louisiana ER patients ever do a double-take when they see you or ask if you're the PaleoHikerMD? Just curious. Btw . . . another great video!

[@bobkrohn8053]

Coincidentally I just discovered this idea myself. I thought I was making these home brew stoves wrong because they took so long the start working. Yeah, I just used a can lid. Also one of those “disposable” mini aluminum pie tins. Why nobody came up with this years ago?? The old Primus gasoline stoves had a small cup built onto the base of the stove for this exact purpose. WTF?

[@kenneth4992]

With the Trangia, have you tried placing a few drops of alcohol on the lip right below the jets? But like you said it lights up fast already. GOD Bless you and your family

[@joshnagenmurugiah4531]

Real revelation. Great discovery

[@briankelly5731]

I'm a little confused. If someone is deciding on a backpacking stove, and they are concerned about 1 stove taking 15 sec and another taking 60 sec, is your enjoyment of the outdoors make or break on 45 sec?

[@lawrencefieselman3803]

I thought "$2.99 for a can lid? No way." I see Paul used a tuna can lid. I used a Bush's Baked Beans lid. Works perfectly. I love your videos, Ernie, but this one missed the boat.

[@carrdoug99]

Bottom line. Buy the Trangia.

[@carrdoug99]

@tyvek05 In reality, unless your just doing little weekender trips (under four days), I don't know why you'd mess with alcohol stoves period.

[@oinc7320]

Some burners seem to have more major flare up, then settled down, others just no drama blooming? Was this burner design or just luck? If you repeat it, each burner might change?

[@buntoskiffler]

good morning, thx for posting. Just a big CON with that accidental spillage on the table possibility, but yeah its proven to work. Idk. -b

[@samuelfox8126]

But are you burning more fuel in the priming pan than it would otherwise burn to self prime?

[@brian1674]

Great tip! Have heard of this addition to alcohol burners and forgot about it for yrs…tried a tuna lid and works like a champ on trangia,lixada titanium,and the Tomshoo titanium….thanks Ernie! Made all 3 of these prime to full bloom in 10 seconds or less👍

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Good idea! Doctor can't read his own handwriting!?! I'm shocked!!! ;-)

[@googlesbitch]

Trangia and many of its knock off with exactly the same copy have a priming ridge built in them. The ridge is designed for conditions that are very cold when alcohol doesn't vaporize effectively in a timely manner.

[@Kevin-px3gk]

Hello Paleo chiming in, surely has it's place form intertaly self prim wire meash perhaps inexpensive goodes locly sourced

[@paulahavens2764]

They seem all unsafe to me because you can not control these types of stoves, and you proved that by having some of the fire on your tabletop. will pass on these types, for I like to control the flame. but you did a great video. Again thanks for doing this video.

[@billfricker4368]

Thanks for your videos. My solostove 🔥 was always yellow flame. Got an evernew placed inside solo elite boils 8 oz in < 3 min. Thank you!. Will drilling solostove burner holes bigger get me a blue flame?

[@vespasian266]

I wish more utubers would mention the benefits of priming your stoves..

[@MisterGames]

Coffee tin lid?

[@Cetok01]

I'm wondering if I can use or modify a bathroom shower escutcheon plate.

[@hayyou3213]

I wish you would do a taoks syphon stove

[@guskoerner75]

Great Demo! I want an alcohol stove! Which one should I buy/build? Best bang for the buck? I am a handy-guy.

[@RonOrud]

Look up Hiram Cook Fancy feast on KZbin. You can learn there how to build one. It is the most trouble free stove. Shut Enery o. KZbin uses one exclusively as well. I've made and bought alcohol stoves and Fancy Feast is my favorite.

[@BingWatcher]

Best analysis is at ZENSTOVESdotNET

[@jhill4874]

1 minute 20 seconds to 10 seconds is 8 times faster, not 12. Great review and comparison. Thanks!

[@AwestrikeFearofGods]

Same for his other calculations. There are 60 seconds per minute, not 100.

[@robertlarkham2428]

$2.99 but $10 shipping. Not for me.

[@kokopelau6954]

Just use a peanut butter lid made of metal like you use with a penny stove.

[@SovietGrazz]

If the objective is to heat the fuel quicker (agreed) then wouldn't a simple perforated pipe, or T-shaped piece of thin copper (or DIY soda can material) be sufficient? i.e. sits in the bottom of the stove, and tall enough to be licked by the flames, which will transmit the heat back to the fuel? ... It might not be as quick as the tray, but also it doesn't deal with the frankly stupid idea of having a shallow tray full of burning fuel ....

[@keithcronk7980]

HAY DOC DO YOU HAVE THIS STOVE BY [ SIMPLE THEORY PACK STOVE ) IF YOU DO WOULD YOU DO A REVIEW ON IT SIR THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY DOC!!!!!!!

[@ccmogs5757]

Sure he"s done a review of this @ 7 months ago , check his video backlog :)

[@keithcronk7980]

@@ccmogs5757 OLIE DOKIE THANK YOU

[@thexitto]

I thought the answer was a wick!

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

External wicks operate in the same capacity as primer trays, but trays will hold more fuel for priming a bloom in cold conditions. External wicks are for warm Summer weather conditions; whereas Priming Trays are for the other seasons (depending on your local weather conditions: temp, humidity, altitude)... so, Trays could be used year round; whereas, wicks cannot.

[@alal792]

i get it that these things are small, so fumes are also going to be pretty negligible..yet aluminum throws off toxic fumes when heated...also pretty much the WORST material you could cook any food in except for maybe a microwave (which is super toxic for OTHER reasons) , yet we all know how little knowledge people seem to have about either these days, and how many of these things are sold AND being used...honestly for a couple more cents just use a STEEL version, like why would you degrade your titanium unit with a piece of trash aluminum priming pan?

[@airinbone]

Just make your own. I did.

[@mattkreitzer5622]

Great content, glad I found your channel! I have purchased several things after watching your videos. I am developing an addiction to buying cooking gear, ha, ha. I don't know if you get into campfire baking much, but I found out about reflector ovens recently and think they are a pretty cool option to use when you are either car camping or doing a short hike to camp. I got this one - www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/reflector-oven-by-svante-freden.html - and it worked great. Might be something you would want to check out. There are a bunch of ways to make one yourself too but I decided to buy one. I do think I am going to make a smaller version to take hiking sometime in the future though.

[@keekwai2]

Just cut the bottom off a tin can from the trashbin and have one for free.

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

THe primer is only 3 bucks, great!! But they want 10 bucks to ship something that weighs less than a fart. ABSOLUTELY NOT

[@telegraph_hill]

Unsubscribing because of your annoying clickbaity thumbnails. Sorry. Some of your content was really good.

[@PaleoHikerMD]

Glad you enjoyed the videos while you were here!

[@fmkfmk3835]

I don't know why ... the need for `` prime '' when the best burner is undoubtedly the Fancee Feest The original

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

Fancy Feast and Capillary Hoop Stoves are the MOST fuel efficient of any kind ever made. ALL others need help with priming a bloom imho.

[@merlinch4256]

"This can lead to wasting fuel as you wait for the stove to prime." At the end, the only thing you avoid to "waste" is your time, as you use a lot of alcohol to help prime your stoves. All the alcohol burned will help warming your pot, all the same :-)

[@guyfromsac1]

MerlinCH you’re saying the 4 to 5 drops of fuel used to prime is equal to the fuel used waiting a minute for it to self-prime is equal? No ...

[@merlinch4256]

@@guyfromsac1 Hi, no, I don't say that, but seeing the amount of priming flames and the time they last (in the video), it's obvious there aren't only 4-5 drops of fuel involved in this demo.

[@guyfromsac1]

@@merlinch4256 if we was mistaken or mislead us in his description of the amount, then yes, I agree with you.

[@merlinch4256]

@@guyfromsac1 Yes Mike. By the way, Trangia sells a similar device (for their own burners), with some sort of absorbing fiber: shop.trangia.se/en/accessories/pre-heater-fv21.html

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

The concept of using a priming tray is correct. Ernie's execution was what was flawed (since he didn't mention it, I will: you're ONLY supposed to use as much fuel as to get it to bloom. No more. He used way too much fuel to prime: on this we agree). The object is to have the burner or stove bloom and the primer die out soon thereafter (this requires meticulous starting air temperature keeping, ala Hiram Cook, to judge the relative bloom time and the fuel runtime you will need for the primer, ideally, in varying weather conditions). Ideally, the tray needs to be a half inch wider around the perimeter than the burner (I noticed one of the burners in the video didn't have that clearance, so it wasn't as efficient at priming the bloom as it could have been).

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Geeez...bring your mommy.

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

Fancy Feast, no prime, very cold weather performance, pot stand, cheap, Why use anything else.

[@richardirmler435]

Poo jabber

[@XSevenSonata]

I don't like this dude's face.

[@derekmcmaster6123]

I just use the top of a tin can that is cut off using a safety (side cut) can opener.....Works great and it is free

[@thehawk35]

I came here to say this.

[@sanborns]

Great comment, I looked to buy the product at $2.99, but with shipping I would be charged an additional $9.48. Not a great deal for basically a tin (aluminium) can lid you can make DIY.

[@garywhelansr5602]

Im using a snuff can metal lid seeing this 👍

[@michaelrogers6002]

I use the metal bottom from a Pringles can.

[@bdmenne]

I don’t have that opener, so I slaved a bit and cut a hole in bottom of tuna can and scored it 1/2 inch from the bottom toll free. Saved $11 but took 20 minutes to make.

[@shinysidedown9090]

I have a trangia. I use a strip of paper wetted with alcohol as a wick in the stove - works good. Also, put your pot on ASAP to conserve heat - the bloom will come faster.

[@mihamaker]

is that some kind of insulation material?

[@shinysidedown9090]

Does this pass the "So What?" test.

[@toddnewsom8129]

Excellent tip! $3.00 Primer Pan, add $9.50 shipping. Hahaha I think I'll try an old mayonnaise lid. :-) Its free.

[@MsRotorwings]

IKR? Great product but ridiculous shipping costs.

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[@JimRodgers]

I've had issues with my Trangia stoves when using them in high mountain areas of the Cascades (above 5000') in cold weather. Takes forever to prime. This product appears to be exactly what I need!

[@northernswedenstories1028]

Trangia sells a cold weather plate on its website. Back in the day they also used to make a military version of the stove that worked better in cold weather but was much bigger then current trangia stove

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Ever try a double walled large muffin pan? Not the whole thing but cut off one of the spots you make a muffin in?

[@clivedunning4317]

Dear Jim Rodgers, can I please ask , two years later, what your experience of using this type of priming pan worked out in your trips to the Cascades was ? TIA.

[@GrumpyGrunt]

Pro tip: If you light your alcohol stove with a flame thrower, you don't need to prime it. 🤪 I usually just drip a few drops over the top/side of my Trangia, but that was an interesting test. Thanks, Ernie.

[@mrcvry]

Interesting how much better the Trangia is. No wunder that they have not changed it in hundred years. Such a simple idea and the knock offs still do not get it right. 🤣

[@joelrampersad1359]

My capillary groove stove primes in 4 seconds, and boils 2 cups of water in under 5 minutes. Comes with a built in pot stand.

[@thexitto]

It´s a Fancy Feast Mod by Hiram or a Spiguyver Stove?

[@joelrampersad1359]

@@thexitto it's the capillary groove stove that Hiram advised should have a pressure release hole at the top. We still miss Hiram.

[@Sokol10]

@@joelrampersad1359 That model was know as CAS stove, Tombike stove (have a Vimeo video with 3mi+ views with how make one), groove beer can stove. An very easy to make model, just not much fuel efficient, as burn hot and fast.

[@shinysidedown9090]

Free! Light a small strip of paper (receipt) and drop it in the stove. Also put your pot on immediately, waiting for the bloom wastes heat and fuel. But let us remember: you bought the stove because you're not in a hurry.

[@voo8165]

I've got a million of those primer plates. So does everyone with a roll of aluminum foil.

[@peterterry7918]

Two questions: 1) how much is the fuel savings with putting fuel in the priming pan? 2) does the wick make the stove so efficient that the priming pan is not going to improve the efficiency or does the wicking interfere with the prime Pan's function?

[@robertcwillifordii2630]

The proper function of the priming tray is achieved when you only use as much fuel as to get the jets bloomed and the tray burns out soon thereafter (having used only a small amount of fuel to get the burner going: as opposed to having a hyped up blazing inferno like Erie had going after the jets were lit). ^----This is where you have attained maximum fuel efficiency. The key is to ONLY use as much is necessary to get a bloom. Wicking materials, in my experience, only absorb heat that is supposed to be transfered to the fuel to be compressed in the inner chamber, delaying the bloom... so I don't use them.

[@JS-xs5hq]

The spirit cup and thermal cuppling are certainly not new inventions, but that $3.00 accessory plate does the job and would save on ethanol. Thanks for the tip.

[@danielkutcher5704]

I suggest using ethanol. The vapors from methanol are much more toxic.

[@JS-xs5hq]

@@danielkutcher5704 Good tip.....thanks. I made the correction above so not to misguide folks.

[@davidclarke7367]

Love these videos. Not sure of your math though, 2.07 compared to 15 seconds is 8 and a bit times faster, not 15 times faster. Only 60 seconds in a minute😱

[@timanderson8833]

it seems to be critical to get the right amount for priming alcohol, so that the stove doesn't run away, and waste fuel

[@victorvasquez2788]

looks dangerous!

[@barrybrum]

Only if you live in California, if so it causes cancer.

[@mako5708]

Or just fold some layers of aluminium foil into a small pan shape and put it under the alcohol stove :-D ... saved 2,99 USD :-D

[@ernieschatz3783]

.....or just get a Trangia and skip looking for the plate.