primer slurry test which is best

[@Brockstonepavingpros]

Scott, you’re not only a highly skilled paver but also a true gent too! There’s not many people that would do what you’ve done there. Thank you mate 🙏 hopefully catch up face to face again one of these days 😅

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Hopefully see you at the next Marshall’s national awards again have a couple of beers and catch up 🍺 next time I’m not wearing that suit again I’ll get another one made especially 🤜

[@HGarry4012]

@@tidybrickslandscaping great video mate Wandering could u just use sbr neat brushed onto back of paving slab is that ok

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

@@HGarry4012 you could bet it would be better if you had cement 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@HGarry4012]

@@tidybrickslandscaping ok thanks for prompt reply I'll give u a follow cheers

[@jayjays18152]

Stuck like shit to a blanket, as they say

[@johnmurphy9601]

Thanks Scott....well worth doing that test. I'm doing my first porcelain patio shortly and this video really helped break down the jargon and terminology. I like the real-world advice too about which mix will go off faster. That's hassle you don't need when you're trying to take your time to lay the tiles right and doing angle cuts, etc.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad you found a video helpful it was a good test and I actually wanted to know what myself too what was better as I get asked so much 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@sirhc911]

Thanks for your videos! I’m a DIY’er and about to do my first paving job in my back garden and had no idea what a slurry mix/primer mix was but you’ve really helped me out. Thanks very much! 👍🏻

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did this video for people like like yourself to help learn before you try 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@chh9999]

My first paving attempt - cracking video - thank you😊

[@Cookie87820]

So what did you use and how didn’t the project go?

[@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466]

Another test could have been a wet tile. A dry tile will suck the moisture out of the bed resulting in badly cured mortar at the interface. This is one of the primary reasons for priming. Essentially this is a rigid form of pavement construction where the base bed and surface are required to act together to resist deformation so the integrity of the bond is critical. As is the need to have a sealed impermeable joint between units. As opposed to flags or blocks which are flexible pavements which can tolerate movement and moisture. In high load public environments the only difference is that the paver will be thicker and a full concrete slab is added over the sub-base to guarantee rigidity. Great test tho. Looking at cost, marshalls is extortionately expensive kidology whereas a gallon of pva will cost 5 quid and is just as effective.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

If you used the sbr you would still have to add cement and make a paste for that extra stickiness. Sbr mix drys really fast unlike the Marshalls primmer lasts all day 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@scoyle1750]

Always use sbr it's also great on its own when you are using a light coloured slab also would only use sbr for outside as pva only suitable for inside work as it can repell weather for a while but its actually not waterproof and only suitable in certain applications

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Yes very true but I’ll always use the Marshall’s primer 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@paulgregory4109]

You chiselled the last tile different to the previous 3 that’s why it came off easier

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

That was accident i was leaning over but no cement was stuck to it anyways the other were covered with it huge difference still 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@josephbarratt7093]

I’m sorry but you clearly have never laid porcelain if you think for a second that the last one came off perfectly clean just because of where the chisel struck. 🙄 if he had thought about it he probably would have been able to pull it up by hand.

[@Mattlawton-ft6ew]

Yes and using the same brush all mixed together test no good 🤔

[@volvot5turbo]

What an awesome, un-biased video. Nice to see. Reviewed them all informatively with a thumbs up all round. Shocked to see the mortar only one considering that's what most (DIY) people use. edit: added DIY for clarity

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks mate glad you appreciate that video it was quite a common question asked and it was fun to resolve for everybody 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@brickbybric]

I always reckoned lump hammers and chisels go well together . Brick hammers and chisels not so well . I can feel your pain . Fantastic work.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks brick I wish I never hit myself with a hammer on that video bloody hurt 🔨 🩸👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@paulf2529]

Brilliant, I've always felt confident in sbr/cement but good to see the comparison.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Yeh all works really well in the end 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@damprotek]

You don't have to prime the slabs in my experience just add the SBR to the mix which makes the sander cement mix stickier also PVA is not very good in the wet it tends to debond

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

The prime a slurry acts more like a glue 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@elliottdebell7783]

The bolster guards might be annoying but less annoying than hitting your hand. I learned this after years of hitting my hand

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’ve always hated those bolster guards I prefer to hit my fingers 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@edfox8293]

On another contractors advice we've been trying out sbr direct in the mortar mix on indian sandstone paving. I'm gonna do a test myself on that one as they seem to stick better and less dependant on variations in the mix done by the lads but never tried to pop one like you did there. Good vid fella and like the work you do. Keep at it.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Fox glad it helped in your thoughts 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@dommo9056]

Thanks for the test! I’ve always used SBR and cement slurry but always wondered how the alternatives performed! 👍🏻

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did it again with a wider range of products 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@alexsnell4877]

Hi which grout do you use for porcelain?

[@montdino9775]

Hi do you mix it with water and cement or just the abr and cement

[@Thor_Underdunk_Caballerial]

When you clobbered your hand I immediately clicked the like button. Fantastic video either way!

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

lol it still hurts and thx 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@elmafudd9703]

PVA will dry and then rehydrate when wet so it can be the weak link. for this reason you would have to use waterproof PVA. But PVA is a plastic so the SBR is better as a product as its a rubber that does not rehydrate or degrade.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Couldn’t of said it any better thanks glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@brightonduder]

nice job - i wanted to get an idea of bonding render to a smooth concrete lintel. I'll use the SBR cement slurry. Interesting and good to know about PVA slurry too!

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Sbr cement slurry as good as anything you could make or buy 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@brickrightbuildinglandscaping]

Fair play really good video that Scott and very humble to give matty a mention and after meeting you myself a few days ago i could see your a genuine bloke mate really enjoyed the chat .ill come see you next time mate . Justin brickright 👍

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’ll invite you up when I finally finish that drive 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@brickrightbuildinglandscaping]

Look forward to it mate 👍

[@shanerahimian1771]

Ah mate I love that.... "the conclusion is.... It all works" 👍👍

[@allanblackshaw3046]

Hi Scott great wee video, just shows the difference, always sore when wee blooter the side off the finger then you get the tell tale blood mark . Your right about Matt his work is class , seen a vlogg off a boy cutting porcelain n watched it along with his other stuff absolutely brill he is . Was speaking to Justin yes from brickright he speaks highly off you and George from matipo. Awra best from Glasgow

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Cheers Allan thanks for watching again and yeh that matty fella he’s got a steady hand when cutting fair play to him. We’ve got a little Community go on in here 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Brockstonepavingpros]

Thank you both 🤜🤛 really really appreciate the comments 🙏🙏

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

@@Brockstonepavingpros all the best Matt hope it helps 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@allanblackshaw3046]

@@tidybrickslandscaping hi Scott cheers will do . Been following you for a year or more . Your work and tips are class . Love the garden you done the other year with all the raised circles n firepit never seen anything like it sheer class

[@allanblackshaw3046]

@@Brockstonepavingpros no problem Matt spoke to Justin yesterday from brickright for the first time taikedabout alot off different stuff and I mentioned your name to him

[@andyginn8487]

Laying porcelain at home next week. What is the ratio of SBR and cement for the slurry please?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Can’t really give a ratio apart from what’s workable at the time. As long as it’s paste able it’s good. You can buy a primer made especially for it also 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@richwallwin]

Great test just shows how well the stuff works, I started out mixing my own sbr then just moved onto the premixed stuff, yes it costs abit more but it actually saves money in the long run as you can knock up a lot and not waste time having to do small mixes of sbr slurry every 10 slabs when you could be knocking out loads in one go.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

You hit the nail on my head my friend 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@bernardfender5147]

Excellent results, just as expected. I'll guess the Marshall stuff is cement based with a powdered acrylic (basically powdered modern version of SBR) and retarder for all day use. Even using the Marshall I would recommend putting SBR in the mortar

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that video it and so many questions I had myself and the marshals primer is my favourite because of the retardant. I always use a squirt of fairy liquid for my mixes and have been for over 30 years and it’s all still standing 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@bernardfender5147]

@@tidybrickslandscaping honestly, one of the worst things you can do is add detergent to mortar!! The reason for this is the size of the air bubbles in the cement paste. Fairy will make a beautiful fluffy mortar but the air is entrapped not entrained meaning there are fewer, bigger bubbles. Ultimately this reduces strength, freeze/thaw resistance and durability. If you can, just add a splash of plasticiser instead it doesn't take any longer than adding washing up liquid!!, (but SBR is still the best). 😁😁. Stay safe my friend 🙂

[@kefahkhaled2184]

شكرا لك على هذا الفيديو انه عمل رائع بالنسبة لي استخدمت sbr مع الخلطة الاسمنتية لرصف البلاط قبل ١٦ عام ولازال بحالة جيدة.. كان يمكن ان اكتب لك باللغة الانجليزية ولكن لتعلم ان لك متابعين من بلد عربي من العراق تحياتي لك

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

شكرا للمشاهدة ونعم sbr والأسمنت مجرد إعلان جيد مثل أي منتجات أخرى ولكنه سوف يجف بشكل أسرع 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

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[@lewishayes9228]

Fairly new to the channel and saw this video just in time... popped some coping stones back on for a customer. I had some PVA in the van so made a quick mix..Winner. Great videos and fantastic work. Keep up the great work

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Sounds like perfect timing I’m glad you watched it in time 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@ollieanderson8166]

Very fair and honest comparison. Thanks fella

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad you found the video handy 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@brianoneill350]

Redo the last one and wet the back of the slab with water. See what happens then

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Not a lot to be honest the water wouldn’t soak into the tile anyway so same outcome. It needs a double butter 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@y2k08]

Great video, amazing how the primed surface bonded the mortar mix to the tile completely, would it also be good to bond the concrete layer to the mortar as well so in theory it should be difficult to even take them off Thanks waiting on your answer so I can do my driveway ! Amazing content actually showing how to do things rather then just showing the end bits

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Whatever you prime will always give a better sticking power 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@mpoolsandlandscapesltd6432]

Yes its always a good idea to prime the base as well as the tile. We lay alot of porcelain tiles and thats the way we do ours and had no problems

[@Ben.g]

much appreciated 👍

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Glad to of helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@michaelhoey5013]

Thanks for the video. just about to get a patio done and wanted to know which primer to buy. Great Work.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m really glad I did that video for people like yourself wanting to know what primer to use 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@johncolquhoun6416]

Why didn't it stick to the sub base. The whole thing just lifted on all of them. Am i missing something.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

If I primed the concrete first then laid the cement and primed the tile it would be really really hard to get up 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Ratsotone]

That was interesting to watch, thank's for that, but I'll have to try the Marshall's primer next time if it lasts as long as you say it does, the one I've just finished using was called Tuffbond from Steintec, and once mixed it gave you very little time to use it before it went off, I'd say around 30-40 minitues, but I've never used the SBR slurry, I'll have to try that sometime...thank's for the informative videos 👌

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Green I’m glad the video was informational for people the marshals primer is the best 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@NisarAli-lp7xm]

Thank you for this video. I've been looking for this information for a long time and no one seemed to know.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Then I’m so glad I did that video I’m here to help 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@imipropertyservicessheffie7596]

Great video, nice to know all 3 work the same especially at the moment with a shortage of materials, nice to have the choice and be confident in it. Thanks for making it.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that test it was actually quite informational 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@iestynsmith5184]

PVA debonds when it gets wet, and washing liquid should never be used because the bubbles stop the sand and cement bonding together. Wet slabs is sufficient enough, but SBR slurry or just neat SBR is good for other applications.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

You might be right on the pva the rest you are wrong about sorry

[@Chippylok]

Hi there interesting & informative vid Tks for that I have a job to do shortly with porcelain and am going to use sbr, did u use it neat or watered down? Can u use it say 2-1 and how much cement mix did u put in the mix. Tks

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Hi Chippy good luck with your upcoming patio as for the primmer sbr is ok but I’d say buy a proper primer instead it would most likely be easier to use 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Brockstonepavingpros]

Great video! Always wondered if there was any difference, never done a test like that. Thank you mate 👊

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m here to help anyone and everyone 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 glad it helped anyways

[@fpwaller]

Excellent demo, thanks

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad you found it helpful 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@tomsmith3045]

This was great! Thank you so much. I always wondered how well the different primes work. No Marshals in the US that I know of, so will stick with the acrylic, so to speak, maybe add some retarder if I can find that separately.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that video as well myself even learnt something like everyone else 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@stevew8938]

Great information. Always used SBR and cement but wondering for a while if it was as good as the trade primers/slurry. Now I know. Thanks.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Perfect timing I’m glad it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@andysparks7381]

I have been trying to find a priming slurry product like the Marshalls product in the States with no luck. I have resorted to mixing my own with a Sika product and cement. It does settle out during the day and requires re-mixing but appears to work.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Ultra scape is another brand you could try and yes the option given is as just as good but does need to be remixed for sure 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@danwatkins6303]

Hey, thanks for making this video, so helpful.. even sacrificing a thumb!! Sheesh. Good work.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad you found the video useful as many have 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@leepearce2285]

Excellent little review👍i had to laugh tho when he hit his hand 😂😂😂😂

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Bloody hurt too 😂 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@lmilne4859]

Doesn’t go quick unless it’s loaded with more cement than glue. SBR. Unibond/pva are very similar Here’s 1 what about the glue just straight onto back of tile no cement added. Done a small staircase just rolled pva on went to lift what a hell of suction it took. Took most of the cement bed up attached to slab.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Actually you got a point I could of done that 🙄👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@lmilne4859]

@@tidybrickslandscaping Another video required hehe 😜 to be honest would think be pretty much same out come. Last 1 a done used sbr with just a small bit cement rolled on 4inch roller. Oh and watch them fingers. 😆😆😆😬

[@mariomiseric]

Hi after I went trough alk the comments I did not find thw answer. Can you tell me does sbr + cement need to dry on a tile before you lay it on the bed of mortar. Also should you prime old concrete sub base before putting new mortar on top of the old? Thank you, love your work and I know how your back and knees are :)

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks for watching and the answer is no it doesn’t need to dry first the wetter the surface the better and yes definitely prime the base first for extra sticking power. I didn’t on this video it was really just about the tile priming 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@mariomiseric]

Thank you sir :)

[@TomTomTomTom538]

I've used just cement and water slurry and it worked just fine, I wonder how necessary the SBR/PVA is

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

It’s definitely got to be more sticky it has to be better really 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@wasim21k]

Great work m8. Did you mix pva and sbr in cement and then apply to tiles? My local builder gave me Evo-Stik Primer 918 but I think its wrong product for this job what do you think?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

The sbr and cement paste mix will do fine 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@wasim21k]

@@tidybrickslandscaping so to mix primer with cement to make slurry and brush it on back of tile? is that all? what ration (sand to cement) would you recommend for outdoor 5mm porcelain ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

@@wasim21k I don’t think that porcelain would be for out doors standing on it it sounds too small 5 mm the porcelain I use is 20 mm and the ratio is four sharp sand one cement 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@kennethrenock6588]

You know I normally don't laugh in construction accidents when somebody hurts themselves but at this time😂😂😂 because of the cameraman😂 awesome video thank you for your time🎉

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I forgive you as I myself laugh when someone hurts themselves too it’s all fair game lol 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@gilespanton9354]

Stupid question but do you mix water as well with the SBR or PVA or are they added neat with the cement, I mean could you possibly mix some water with them

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Not water just sbr you can buy cement primer from most builders merchants anyways and maybe more workable also 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@excelsiorhome3266]

thanks for showing this. I hope your hand is ok.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that video it was actually quite interesting Hands better now thx 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@leedaykin3541]

Hi, cracking video. ive been asked to do do some patio porcelain for someone this month, and into jan. its about 200m2. im a tiler and would ordinarily go onto a screeded area with ditra drain 8 and fastset tile adhesive. however i cant do this in the winter due to temperature parameters with the adhesive maufacturers. what would you recommend as a sand cement mix and slurry primer mix, and would you have any issues with doing this in the winter months. my customer is fairly impatient.. 😂

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Obviously not a good time of year to do a patio because of the temperatures but the cement mix would be 4\1 sharp sand mix with a slurry primer and there’s many type of this I normally use the Marshall’s primer or ultra scape for my tiles It might be best for the customer to wait a while or tiles could pop up with the frost 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@jonhorner2556]

Can you lay the mortar mix straight onto a concrete sub base or do you need to apply a bonding agent to sub base first? Thanks for the tip on the slurry primer

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Depends how much cement if it’s a smaller amount I’d prime the concrete and the tile 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@jonhorner2556]

@@tidybrickslandscaping just what i thought, thats put my mind at rest now. Thanks mate

[@derekmanning7760]

Hi great video, just what I was looking for. What ratio SBR/CEMENT/WATER (presume water is in the mix?) do you use please, thank you.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

No water just the other two and use what’s manageable for you like a paste of wallpaper paste type. Primer is very important 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@derekmanning7760]

@@tidybrickslandscaping thank you, tried it today and it worked a treat 👌👍

[@AA-qk7zm]

Hi mr tidy bricks i love your vids ive just finished my patio following your tips and it has come out beautiful, thanks so much for your vids. I have a major problem i used sbr/cement slurry for the back of porcelain slabs and ive got some ontop of the slab and i cant get it off ive jetwashed the hell out of it but it wont budge please help me.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Easy solution is patio cleaner aka brick acid you won’t damage the porcelain it’ll fizz for a while that’s the cement burning when it stops fizzing it’s good to go. Only put on enough completely cover the splash mark and wash off with water when your done. Hey presto 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@AA-qk7zm]

@@tidybrickslandscaping cheers mate your a top bloke

[@headlyredbear9128]

Marshalls or Sbr are good but pva won't last because it's water soluable and will break down over time.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Yes quite agree with you it’s not the best idea really but people do use it 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@jmc8018]

I wonder if the pva will be effected more by frost etc over the other 2?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I think you’re right I might do yeh 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@techsolutions8454]

Could I lay indian sandstone onto an already solid morter bed with slurry? I'm guessing not

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

You could yes very possible but I would probably suggest having a slight bit of tolerance prime the existing mortar bed prime the tile and then just add enough cement throughout to give you a bit of tolerance because any uneven surface will not allow it to bond properly 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@roontunes]

very helpful, thank you. I have to prime Multipro board prior to tiling, what dilution should I iuse with SBR as I 've used it for various projects and I think it's rock solid

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Not sure what’s best with that board as it’s something I don’t use. But my primer mix is sbr and cement not just glue. Hope that helps 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@grahampreston4800]

Good test but what is about the price of all of them and size for price

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Couple of pound here or there but the Marshall’s would be the most expensive but still the best👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@keranchapman8855]

Great video. However I’ve laid all kinds of slabs over the last 20 years. Never primed one. Never had one come up. I lay them on 5-1 sharp sand same consistency as brick laying mortar. Just make sure the slab is fully contacted to the mortar.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I think that’s the key which helps is a bricklaying motar well it’s quite wet and can stick to it rather than a drying mix. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@JamesJohnson-qs1ry]

I’m going to go with your method as I hate to see them go to waste when it’s to have an extension and the ones I’m about to lay need ripping up ( I’d like to re use them

[@CC-io3nc]

I laid patio for first time few years ago. Was just budget concrete charcoal slabs. Didn't use any slurry primer. Only soaked the slabs with water. I did add hydrated lime to sharp sand mortar to make it more workable though. 5:1:1 mix. Had no issues slabs stuck solid

[@user-rp6bf5pi3n]

@@CC-io3ncLime is supposed to help massively with adhesion

[@antmears1498]

Really useful info. Thank you.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that video I believe it is very useful 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@neilsmart78]

Cheers for the test . How’s the drive looking ??

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Slowly we’ve had some really shit weather lately so not quite there yet 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@SashasRevenge]

Great video and thanks, so sorry that you hurt your hand though, you took it like a champ! ❤️👍🏼

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

And whenever you hit your hand you can guarantee next time you hit it same place 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@rc4me288]

Nice one

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Hopefully it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@stevewrightvr]

Can you add primer to muk that has already gone off I.e if patio has been down a while and you just want to stick it back or would you have to knock out old muk then prime ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

If the base is sufficient then yes fine just glue them down with primer make sure every bit of dust is clean for laying for best suction 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@largespanner]

So the brush had some sbr and pva on it before the Marshall mix

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Yes probably but only a little bit 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@1spiders1]

What about just water and cement ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Won’t stick as well just water 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@inline829]

Hi,, great video 👍🏻.. what ratio would you recommend for the SBR and cement ? Any help would be brilliant. Thankyou

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

It’s hard to say but it all comes down to being wet enough still to be easy to apply 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@JamesJohnson-qs1ry]

What if in a year or 2 years time you want to re use the slabs you put down ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

If,you primed them they’ll never come up if you didn’t prime them then maybe possible 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@RealityIsALuxuryForSome]

Thanks for the test, its a nice thing to know

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Yeah I think it was a worthwhile test it’s quite a popular conversation 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@antonyporter5045]

great video

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Hopefully you found it informational 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@rockybalboap7763]

Thanks for the concrete evidence 😀😀😀😀😀

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad you liked it 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@johnturner8383]

Great video, well done..

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks John I hope it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@frankholehouse1393]

Brilliant Video thank you, Top Man .

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Frank I hope that video helped you with your decision making 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@exploretheobvious]

Very informative, no wiffle waffle thanks for that sir👍ps and entertaining 😅

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Glad it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@mollyevans8801]

hi can you please tell me how much marshalls primer I will need for 36sm patio porcelain cheers

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I would say two tubs 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Gary21H]

Wow, to be honest, I always thought the primer may have been overkill, but seeing the one without primer just pop right off has changed my thoughts on that completely 😮

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Glad the video has had a effect on some People 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Dg-zj6jo]

dose this make it stick down the slabs please i did a small job and mine all loose so got do it again thanks i will try some primer this time

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Primer is the glue that keeps it all together 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Dg-zj6jo]

i see thanks for that sir

[@Dg-zj6jo]

right iv re done the job for the lady hopefully it will stick this time

[@marino846]

Great video

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Marino glad you enjoy the video 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@boxingcoachdz6846]

Can I make a slurry by mixing just cement and water? Will it stick porcelain floor tiles?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

You could but a better idea to mix sbr with it as it’s a liquid glue double sticking power 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@boxingcoachdz6846]

@@tidybrickslandscaping thanks for answering me, mate. What about PVA (the white glue)?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

@@boxingcoachdz6846 some people have replied good reasons not to use the pva but forgotten what it was 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@scotspie501douglas7]

cant wait for friday great job

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

It’s dry all day Friday whoop whoop 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@handygroundworks8638]

Great video 👍

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks lee hope it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@deanphillips746]

What about on natural stone not poreclin?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

All the same principle 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@alithamer5662]

What’s the ratio of the mixture if using sbr? Thanks

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Couldn’t really say just put some in the bucket mix of cement and as long as it’s like a slurry amd not too dry then it should work 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@matthewgarfield-bennett8771]

Thanks for your expert knowledge - hope your thumb is ok !

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Matthew glad you enjoyed the video it was a good idea doing that I even wanted to know the differences thanks for watching again 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Gogo_302]

I want to know which one do you prefer for weather like sweden Norway?

[@Gogo_302]

For -15 weather

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Maybe a completely different product I guess 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@jerryz673]

Hi Scott, can we use PVA+ cement mix as primer?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Pva and cement isn’t the best mix go for sbr it’s much better 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@graemesmith8509]

Great real world test :)

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

yeh I think it went apart from bashed my nuckle 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@hannahpettet8881]

Please can I ask what you would lay these on is it hardocore or a concrete bed

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Here in the UK we use a hard-core base you could use concrete as well no problem it’s only foot traffic. But this job had 250 mm hard-core and 150 to 200 mm concrete 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@counseloridealist]

I'm trying to get SBR in the US. Do you have any hints?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Masonry glue is the best I can say 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@counseloridealist]

@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you. I'll make some calls. I enjoy your videos, and I've learned a lot of valuable information and techniques. Take care!

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

@@counseloridealist thanks for watching and hopefully you find a American version 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@rubbertrampstokesy2047]

How do you mix sbr to cement what ratio thanks 🙏

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

As long as it is able to be brushed onto the tile that’s fine so not quite sure on the ratio really 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@andrewleach1323]

Thank you very informative👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I’m glad I did that video I thought it was a really good idea it’s a common question 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@andrewleach1323]

@@tidybrickslandscaping it was very handy for me just starting to lay Indian sandstone patio for my neighbour and I am a bit rusty things move on very fast on the building never thought of priming underside of slabs 20 years ago I was a dry stone Waller but had laid a few slabs but nowhere near your standard as I have said before you must have some patience your porcelain paving was amazing

[@LakesLee]

Felt bad laughing when you hit your hand with the hammer. We all do it, i reckon my top knuckle is nearly numb from it. Usually takes one aaaarrrgh then crack on like yourself 😂💪🏻

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Always the same spot too when you whack your hand hey lol 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@IsacsCleaningServices]

Great test!

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Thanks Isaac glad you enjoyed the video I think it worked well 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@michaellowe4671]

What mix ratio did use with the sbr? Some say use neat sbr and cement and others 50 sbr 50 water and will multicem be ok or should I buy a bag of Portland Instead? Thank you.

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

I never use the sbr method I always use Marshall’s primer but for that video it was neat sbr mix with cement 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@hexboxx735]

does it need to be applied wet to adhere best? Ive painted in on stone before cementing but let it dry first?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

The wetter the better and apply straight away do not let dry and put it on a few mm think to the more the better 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@hexboxx735]

Thank you

[@meejhgggg]

So all slabs thay not bond properlly to co crette..cuz not primer all moisture took from mix😔hope I'm wrong..

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

If you wanted it to stick to the slab also then you would have to prime the concrete too 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@meejhgggg]

@@tidybrickslandscaping was just thinking if u also do it that's it Thx for rpy

[@meejhgggg]

Great test anyway Thx

[@wayneosullivan1549]

So you just add cement to the sbr How much ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Just enough to make a paste that is easy to apply you’ll figure it out when your mixing 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@wayneosullivan1549]

Top man 👍🇬🇧

[@thomaselston4680]

first time I ever lied these we put 100ml base down and a two inch screen the movies told to use external tile adhesive of the prime the screen and prime the backs

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

Only if a small amount of cement is late I’d prime the concrete and tile 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@maxgoldscotland9389]

thanks for the effort

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

glad to of helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@paulsimpson2232]

Hello im glued to your vids lol Can you tell how many slabs did you primary with that size Marshall's, is it a 10 litre tub ?

[@tidybrickslandscaping]

About 25 to 30 m² is about the average per tub as for the size tub I’m not quite sure actually 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@paulsimpson2232]

Thanks for the quick reply, didnt expect it until the morning . 👍