If you want to know how to make polycarbonate lids check out this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqq0lKiuf5yEjJY
@unbrickablevow1124 жыл бұрын
Silicone in the holes?
@fatman71003 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on screen cover lids for 40 gallons breeder?
@midnull600911 ай бұрын
you've really aged between those 2 vids...only 2 years apart too... hope all is going well :)
@Thomas.Saunders Жыл бұрын
I know this is a little older video, but it's the first I've seen discussing the pros and cons of glass vs polycarbonate. Thanks much for this.
@CraigBackus4 жыл бұрын
I love how you make quick corrections to videos with text overlays. It's a quick fix without having to reshoot the whole thing. Very smart!
@cbi2077 жыл бұрын
Why don't you silicone the end of the polycarbonate lids? It would keep the moisture out and all it would take is a little bit along the edge.
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Hi Caleb. I was focused more on the standard way most people construct the lids, but you are absolutely right -silicone would definitely help! Thanks for watching!
@Raitis.F2 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Yeah, I wanted to suggest the same thing - fine layer of clear silicone will get that problem away. My biggest issue with the glass would be breaking accidentally. Any ideas on Harden glass or organic glass? (I'm thinking to move from 15gal to 90gal and but it under stairs-ish so a chance of something falling is increased.)
@Red86753096662 жыл бұрын
@@Raitis.F if you get 1/4" tempered glass, you'll never break it. depends on what you're willing to pay though. a tempered glass lid for 90 gal would probably run you $100 if not more. but it's a one time cost and it'd last you forever.
@Raitis.F2 жыл бұрын
@@Red8675309666 added to the list to consider... thank migration will be a considered and thought through process ;), but first we need to move in once construction is done ;) #PlanningAhead
@lakedog36162 жыл бұрын
@@Red8675309666 well the polycarbonate is $166 for a 2’x6’ piece. I thought it might e cheap , lol .
@AbideinChristFully Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out the problem with the open holes on the edge. I'm going to silicone it.
@deejay26062 жыл бұрын
@PrimeTimeAquatics, you can just add a little silicone inside the ends of the polycarbonate to prevent moisture
@jamiestamand48404 жыл бұрын
I have both actually. Plastic I love the flexibility of it. Great for custom aquariums that have a goofy fit, customize for the amount of hang on the back filters which is what we went with on the 60 gallon. I just went with a glass lid for my 29. The biggest disadvantage I see it scares the tetras from breeding. Otherwise I'm considering replacement of my polycarbonate and just put glass in on the 60. They just got cheaper than my polycarbonate
@bornfree39636 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, you may want to try using U-shape plastic edging (similar to car door guards) to seal off the ends of your plastic lids, if they are a tight fit you may even skip the silicone. Just a thought.
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea!
@juliaburns16244 жыл бұрын
I used a lexon polycarbonate sheet that I found at home depot. it was relatively easy to cut to my tank size and I think it has all the pros on both sides. it’s plastic so it is light and won’t break, but looks like glass so it is easy to clean and looks great. hope this helps! great video!! thank you!
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to find some locally - I usually have to order it online. :-)
@Red86753096662 жыл бұрын
how thick did you go and what size tank do you have? I have a 40 gallon vivarium and i want a glass or poly lid, i was looking at the lexon, wasnt sure of the clarity
@Puma1Sunfire16 жыл бұрын
On the polycarbonate lids with the holes, can't you just put little bit of silicone sealent over it to keep the water out and stop that algae growth possibility?
@TheChefmike663 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Good information. I have two 10 gallon tanks that need lids, and I refuse to pay the money that everybody seems to want. The cheaper petco and petsmart lids seem to have black hinges which are going to block light. I'm just getting back into the hobby, and I plan on bigger tanks one day, so buying a sheet of polycarbonate seems like a great investment in future lids as well. If they get too dirty, or scratched from repeated cleaning, then I'll just cut new ones.
@rickstalker68176 жыл бұрын
Silicone the edges to keep things from getting trapped in the lids😎
@lifehappens64472 жыл бұрын
I prefer the polycarbonate lids. I just put silicon caulking on/in the edges. I have never had mold or anything. I unfortunately have a habit of dropping things, banging into, knocking off, etc...I broke ALL of my glass lids. Thankfully I've never broken a tank, knock on wood. Lol.
@belle12563 жыл бұрын
I have to say if you can afford it, the glass lids are so much better; stable and easy to clean. I had a fishroom and tried to cut corners with the twinwall but it was a mess to cut, wouldn't stay on the tank, algae grew in it or the water left hardwater and they got cloudy. So flimsy also if there is a light sitting on top it can fall right through into the tank. I wound up getting glass lids for the tanks I kept when I pulled the fishroom down. The glass lid dropping on the ground isn't a problem as the hinge holds the lid so you wouldn't drop the lid when feeding/doing maintenance. The plastic trim on the glass lids accommodates tubing and electrical cords as well. The only tank I have twinwall still on is the 50 gallon lowboy tank as Zoo Med never made a glass lid for the tank. I have a couple rimless tanks and have made screen tops for them to keep fish in, if you wanted you could do twinwall, but it kills the elegance of the rimless tanks IMO.
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you had the 6mm? The 8mm stuff for us doesn't get flimsy at all.
@midnull600911 ай бұрын
Sounds like it was too thin. I had that problem with thinner polycarbonate.
@belle125611 ай бұрын
I had acrylic sheets as well and the thickest I could buy would flex on me. Had to turn it around on a weekly basis.
@danielgally63894 жыл бұрын
at home depot the polycarbonate was far more expensive than glass. Only advantage to poly is you can cut it to fit filters heaters etc which is al to harder with glass
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
I did a "How to save money" video on polycarbonate. There should be a link from Amazon - it was relatively inexpensive.
7 жыл бұрын
There are plastic parts that are meant to cover and close those holes on the ends of a polycarbonate sheet. I've installed them to close the holes on my DIY covers and nothing gets in.
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for sharing
@lunes-16 жыл бұрын
thanks, your video help me to make up my mind about go for glass lid on my 15 gallon salt water tank. I am new on the hobby and was confused about what lid to use.
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it helped.
@joebama44402 жыл бұрын
My left ear loved this video
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
Ya, that was back in the day when I got a new camera and didn't realize it wasn't in stereo. Rrrr
@scottgreeson35683 жыл бұрын
another advantage to polycarbonate is the better insulation that it provides. I think you would probably need to seal the holes to get the full effect and have little air pockets, but in general polycarbonate has much better insulation properties compared to glass.
@Lflower1Stars6 жыл бұрын
Most glass lids ...flip...like slide lids ..makes it easier to do feed and do water change...can you do a video on how to do this...thanks..
@libertybellcichlids39847 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Glass lids unless you have a big fish room thanks for sharing good video
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Scott-hq3df2 жыл бұрын
The simple fix for the polycarbonate lid holes is just dab some silicone into each hole and that will prevent water from entering.
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@pinheadlarry2506 Жыл бұрын
Good idea. I just recently made my first polycarbonate lid and I’ve got a feeding hole so I’ll probably seal it up with this. The silicone isn’t toxic to fish right? I assume not, but I thought I’d ask just in case.
@njbaquatics48273 жыл бұрын
What you were saying about food and water getting in you’re quite right to avoid this I just squirt silicon in them takes minutes and so is the problem
@onehitterquitter21302 жыл бұрын
Top Fin makes glass lids that fit most of the common tank sizes. An the prices aren't too bad.
@richardwaldhouse80675 жыл бұрын
I found that the side with tare off plastic is UV treated side you want it up they last a lot longer if you use UV lights.
@Lumpydog7 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video. Thanks for putting it together and the link. Cheers.
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Rojo-oe4ku Жыл бұрын
You mention the disadvantage of warping for Polycarbonate on a 40 gallon breeder tank. Couldn't you cut a the long sheet in half to have two 18" pieces and eliminate some of the bending?
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Sure - it makes it a little harder when doing maintenance though.
@FlatEarthPhotography2 жыл бұрын
Glass is heavy. I got my polycarbonate for free from a shop since they were leftovers. They even custom cut it for me :)
@shaneferdz82 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. How does polycarbonate fare with high intensity lighting and heat.. Will it bend or melt with that heat?
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Holds up well! Especially the 8mm stuff.
@shaneferdz82 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics thanks, so sounds like thicker is better then. I was planning on 4mm
@jpbsc20097 жыл бұрын
subject is covered well. Know from personal experience you were right on.
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tekjunkie28 Жыл бұрын
Which one allows more light through.. it looks like glass would with the glare coming off the poly but ive seen stranger.
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
I haven’t noticed a difference.
@RiversPhotography4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! This helped me so much
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
QuotationFingerzYT good to hear!
@scottiethefishfreak5 ай бұрын
replay crew! Thanks for the info
@bornfree39636 жыл бұрын
Good comparison of the two, thanks Jason!
@kentsfish97616 жыл бұрын
What about adding silicone to the ends of the sheet
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
That certainly may help. I may do that when adding the next rack of tanks.
@stephenmartin72275 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking too!
@GlassSurfing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason!
@kadyr8935 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video! My question however, does polycarbonate affect RBG lights and reduce their effectiveness for plants?
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Not that I have noticed.
@adamdavi88695 жыл бұрын
PTA- How does the different material affect lighting choices? Thanks-
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
The poly seems to reflect a little more light into the surroundings, but I think the difference is negligible.
@lalystar4230 Жыл бұрын
the polycarbonate lid, those holes that water can get stuck into... why not just glue them closed with a silicone or smt, heck, even hotglue might do the trick.
@high_fructose_corn_syrup2 ай бұрын
I have a 55g, are there advantages or disadvantages to using 2 glass lids vs one? Also, is there anything to do to prevent water etching or deposit build up in the glass?
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 ай бұрын
Just makes it harder when cleaning the tank. Keeping the water filled to the black trim piece reduces the likelihood buildup will form.
@jesserolli77114 ай бұрын
So is the light penatratsion better through the plastic? Even though you said there's more reflection
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 ай бұрын
I’m not sure there is much of a difference?
@Incubyss7 ай бұрын
what about how light passes through? Any big differences?
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 ай бұрын
No differences
@pitdawg64186 жыл бұрын
How bout 8mm plexiglas? It's solid dont have to silicone the open ends and can be cut to suit and shatter proof
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
I may try that. : -)
@ricbrunner38804 жыл бұрын
The problem comes in when you have cats in the building.
@alejandroc73573 жыл бұрын
I'm so worried what my cat will try to do to the tank when Im at work.
@rebeccajohnson13524 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used the plastic lids that come with the tanks. They have the cut outs in the back for HOB and heater. I’ve upgraded to a canister filter and a fully submersible heater so those original cut outs leave a lot of space exposed for fish to jump out of. I have a 30g bow front planted aquarium, and have found a glass lid. BUT, what about the cut outs for my tubes and wires - can the glass be cut? Because I only have 1 tank, the cost of the diy lid and the glass lid would be about the same. Would love feedback/advice!
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
The glass can be cut usually, but it can be a little dangerous and might be best to let a pro do it (and sand down the edges as newly cut glass can be very sharp).
@jimbaldwin19906 жыл бұрын
I wear polycarb eyeglasses. The poly is supposed to keep out the UV light. Do the plants need that?
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
Unlikely, the lights used for growing plants in an aquarium put out far less UV (if any) than the sun. UV has extremely poor penetrating power.
@quinmallory6 жыл бұрын
aren't those panels you purchased used for greenhouses? I would think they wouldn't limit plant growth that's what their designed for.
@alexusrenee99032 жыл бұрын
Should I be worried about gas exchange with a glass lid?
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
Good question - not if you have a filter or air stone running in the tank.
@ricktalley9796 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video about your lighting? Your tips are great! Thanks for sharing.
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully soon!
@unbrekable1006 жыл бұрын
If you cut that polycarbonate 6mm the OTHER way (where the 'grain' is front to back instead of side to side) it doesn't sag. =)
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
For sure, it just depends on the layout of all the pieces I need to cut from one polycarbonate sheet.
@unbrekable1006 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics I guess it comes down to wanting to maximize efficient use of the sheet vs how much you care about sag :D
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
I actually use 8mm now and it doesn't either way!
@unbrekable1006 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I didn't mean it that way! I meant for someone looking to make some of the plastic lids for themselves :D
@seangere96985 жыл бұрын
You do know that a little silicone in the ends of the polycarbonate will stop stuff from getting in them. And as most fish hobbyist have or can get silicone readily and know how to use it can fix it so nothing gets into the gaps. That's what I used to do for my dart frog tanks.
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
Sean Gere Yep!
@seangere96985 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics I figured that out quickly when I started having issues with condensation in them and algae growing in them because of it.
@jwoodard621 Жыл бұрын
Hi there where do i buy it smashed 1 of the glass top that slide across the top have good christmas
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
There should be a link in the description?
@neald5015 жыл бұрын
To avoid the water and algae getting into the ends why not seal it with some silicone
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
For sure. I'm starting to do that with my latest builds, but it is an extra step and added cost.
@madhatterjones47813 жыл бұрын
Hi mate love your channel. What's your thoughts on adding an airstone to a tank. Running a hob filter it doesn't produce much bubbles
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
You can certainly do that if you want. Not necessary,, but it can look nice and be helpful if the filter ever goes down.
@Coyo-Tea2 жыл бұрын
Could you not seal the edges with bath sealant tape @Prime Time Aquatics ?
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
Yep :-)
@weloveyou12343 жыл бұрын
Does the light go through the polycarbonate as much as the glass?
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
Good question - yes, I haven't noticed a difference.
@dajoke246 жыл бұрын
You don't have to answer but curious what do you do for a living? Looking for career ideas
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
I am a Biology and Microbiology professor and I absolutely LOVE it!
@dajoke246 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Nice, thx
@ricbrunner38804 жыл бұрын
Flexible is not good when you have cats in the building.
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
Good point. :-)
@ricbrunner38804 жыл бұрын
Prime Time Aquatics I learned that lesson I the late 70s. Had 300 breading tank in my building. I got some cats to keep the mice away. To save moneys if something similar. The cats would rather go fishing then hunt mice. Today I still bread fish but on a smaller scale just rare fish but my cats today still like to hangout on top the tanks. Lol
@tori54235 жыл бұрын
What about light panels? Like the one used in office building for the florescent lights? I'm going to try it out with my 40 breeder. Going to make a plywood frame until the frame with spray rubber like leak seal type stuff and silicone it to the Light Panel. Have you ever heard of somebody trying to do this?
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that. My thought is the ones I've seen are opaque, so they might not let as much light through?
@tori54235 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics true but twinwall polycarbonate is also opaque. Yet it has a higher par reading than glass if I'm not mistaken. I actually have a par meter at work. I'm going to test this out tomorrow with the par meter and I'll let you know what I find out.
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
Tori Gibson That’s awesome. Would love to hear your findings!
@fatman71003 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on screen cover lids on a 40 gallons breeder?
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
They'll keep the fish in, but you'll also have a fair amount of evaporation.
@thomsonlester65543 жыл бұрын
Does the light go thru the plastic easy?!
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
Sure does
@maltahighjacker98423 жыл бұрын
Do glass lids affect aquarium light for plants?
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
I have never noticed a difference.
@frandegroat79435 жыл бұрын
Doesn't plexiglass work ? Or doesn't plexiglass work for planted tanks ? Please reply as I have some plexiglass & a planted tank.
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
I have never used plexiglass so I'm not sure how plants would respond. As a covering that lets in sufficient amount of light for fish it would work just fine. Just not sure about the plants.
@dougrhess4 жыл бұрын
Why not use plain, so to speak, polycarbonate instead of the kind with hollow spaces in it?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
This is easy to find?
@deannesherriff32476 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you.
@PrimeTimeAquatics6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@aljanecko5 жыл бұрын
If I ever go over my 10 tanks, I will go with the 8 mil, and I will silicone the holes to cut down on algae.
@superunimportantman7 жыл бұрын
with the poly lid couldnt you just fill those end holes by just putting a bead of silicone across it
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael - I may do that with some of the new ones I'm making!
@xxairman09xx4 жыл бұрын
I know you posted this 2 years ago, but have you noticed any differences in par readings?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
I haven't done any par readings. Visually there isn't a noticable difference between glass and poly. Plants seem to do well in either tank too.
@xxairman09xx4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics awesome, thank you for the reply!
@Michael-43 жыл бұрын
Poly, because you can usually get it for FREE and I'm accident prone.
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
I like it too :-)
@aquariomaniagv37472 жыл бұрын
Can I use polycarbonate to make A fish tank ?
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so - it’s probably too pliable.
@wtfn.z24417 жыл бұрын
Hey man seen your shout out at the aquatic experience
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching
@gregorycruz80032 жыл бұрын
What if you have an arowana
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
You would definitely want to weight the lid down, but I would do the same with glass too.
@raisinggoldfishonabudget70585 жыл бұрын
not when you have a cement floor like I do & I have 5 tanks & 1 110 gal rubber stock tank.
@plantedbowlaquarium Жыл бұрын
Another disadvantage of glass lid is water marks
@Mathias_NB4 жыл бұрын
Would just a single piece of thick plexiglass sag?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the length of the lid I suppose?
@Mathias_NB4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics For a 20 long. If it did, I suppose I could glue on a couple of pieces of ultra thin, unpliable material from front to back...
@VDD13X Жыл бұрын
is it me or is the sound only comin on left side?
@PrimeTimeAquatics Жыл бұрын
Could have been way back then!
@RSP1901665 жыл бұрын
Glass back panel, Poly front panel.
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
Now there's an idea. : -)
@RSP1901665 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Great lighting and light cheap if broken main front panels. Best of both worlds.
@zihaoluo38474 жыл бұрын
Which one allows more light penetration ?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
The manufacturers say polycarbonate. I haven't noticed a difference and plants seem to grow about the same compared to glass.
@shannonland11373 жыл бұрын
poly will be my friend
@kylerigdon99257 жыл бұрын
Don even have to watch the vid just look at the ones he uses
@nathanhenderson59943 жыл бұрын
Put hot glue into the polycarbonate holes. Wipe off flush, and water won’t get in.
@PrimeTimeAquatics3 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@RAZOR123344 жыл бұрын
For a planted tank if I use any of the lid will it effect the growth of plants and also which will be better for planted tank.
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
Glass and polycarbonate lids don't really have an impact.
@RAZOR123344 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Thanks for the answer.
@Fiftybuckchuck4 жыл бұрын
Do i Need a lid for my 20 gallon tank?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
I generally cover all my tanks (with a few exceptions). It cuts down on evaporation and fish jumping out of the tank. It's surprising how many fish like to jump! : -)
@Fiftybuckchuck4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics thank you, i will look into it.
@wayne24117 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Great stuff!!
@PrimeTimeAquatics7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@AbideinChristFully Жыл бұрын
I'll send you $20 if you can show me where to buy a lid for a dollar or so. I just paid $60 for a 36" x 48". (your link is showing a 2' x 6' for $166)
@jheissongaona39355 жыл бұрын
I sat on my glass for my 20g long so I came here for info😭
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok. : -)
@wikiwing3483 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a glass lid
@jamieeisenhower15602 жыл бұрын
When you buy cheap you spend more in the long run does not make no sense to me just like cast iron and stainless steel is the way to go for cooking what's wrong with thicker fake glass with hinges that don't get exposed
@FirstLast-numba1 Жыл бұрын
I just use plastic wrap
@tacobandit7745 жыл бұрын
why does this video only use one side of the headset lol
@PrimeTimeAquatics5 жыл бұрын
Because I was dumb when I first got my new camera and didn't realize my lapel mic wasn't coming through on both sides! Uhhhhh
@tacobandit7745 жыл бұрын
@@PrimeTimeAquatics either way was good info i am glad i found the video i am setting up my first tank and i was trying to find a cheap way of making a lid and this video was pretty helpful i actually just got back from buying some of the polycarbonate
@jimjones69602 жыл бұрын
For some reason the sound on this video only plays through one speaker... bleh!
@PrimeTimeAquatics2 жыл бұрын
Ya, it’s an old video and I was trying to figure out a new camera.
@raychill1634 жыл бұрын
I am not a handy person can you recommend any good kid options?
@PrimeTimeAquatics4 жыл бұрын
I think the best you could do is get them pre-cut at 4ft lengths. If you go with the thinner 6mm you can cut them with a strong, sharp pair of scissors. They may sag a little after a while, but they get the job done.
@whitney66413 жыл бұрын
There is someone on ebay that makes polycarbonate lids.