The Youtuber Who Stole Her Entire Identity | Poppy vs Mars Argo

The strange case of Poppy and Mars Argo...
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The KZbinr Who Stole Her Entire Identity | Poppy vs Mars Argo
Today, we take a look at the bizarre story of Poppy and Mars Argo. Poppy is a girl who has become an internet sensation with he unique style and persona, she has had huge success over the years with her videos and music, but what if this whole identity was stolen from a girl named Mars Argo many years prior?
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[@Primink]

*There was some popping issue with the audio. I spent a couple hours repairing the audio, but you can still hear some issue. I'll have it fixed for later videos :)

[@wasabiisabii]

Primink ok cutie

[@WolfWould]

That's Poppy cursing the video 😂 She doesn't even do anything but put popping sounds over your audio.

[@user-fo1ow1jq3b]

"Not when your watching me though" ONLY when I'm watching you b 😈

[@sidfromiceage69]

"Popping issues"

Its popping Its popping Its popping

[@moon_marina]

The guy is named Titanic you can’t expect his life not to sink

[@humsss]

underrated comment check!!!

[@bananamilks5052]

Well his name is literally titanic “Sink”clair also find it funny poppy’s music I mean 100% got better after she stopped working with him it really feels like she’s actually producing music she wants to produce

[@tanchau9915]

I gave you 666 likes

[@cheeseinspace]

He’s taking everyone down with him 😂

[@movedchannels1830]

I was your I got your comment to 1k likes! OwO 999 was getting on my OCD ;w;”

[@flayful]

"5 years later, Poppy sues Titanic for psychological abuse" Will not be surprised. This is creepy.

[@angryrainbow5083]

they actually already split and poppy made a statement claiming similar treatments of abuse Mars did.

[@flayful]

wow. I'm so behind of the times lol. Thankies for the heads up!

[@inkubator320]

flayful odd..

[@ntskhun]

and it happened lmaooo

[@dirt4333]

she already disowned him and made a statement, she was a victim too

[@WiloPolis03]

The way he said he could replace her any time and then he straight up DID, that's a bit chilling tbh.

[@charlesm.2604]

Of for sure he's a great director and great marketer just a terrible fucking person

[@marcinzalewski7758]

You could say that Mars was on a sinking ship *wink wink*.

[@x_void_princess_x]

He has "replaced" poppy too

[@chatnoir9038]

​@@x_void_princess_x?!? Do spill the tea

[@x_void_princess_x]

@@chatnoir9038 new girl made her like poppy what more can I say

[@K4nma]

Update: Poppy broke the contract with Titanic Sinclair, and also filed a lawsuit saying that Titanic also abused her physically and mentally. Now, Poppy has made her own songs with her own style and sounds, she is touring some countries (mostly in the USA) and many fans admire her, now she is happy with no one to press her Mars Argo has made an appearance with a "new" song called Angry (I put the word "new" in parentheses since the song had already been leaked years before), also, they changed the name of the channel from "grocerybagdottv" to "shouldicleanmyroom" . With this, she implies that she has planned a comeback with more songs and videos, and all of her fans are eagerly awaiting it. And speaking of Titanic... he keeps uploading "his style of him" videos of him and songs as well, but these don't get as many views and he only has a small portion of fans who continue to support him. So far my report, and also another curious fact: Speaking of situations where Mars Argo was mentioned in Poppy videos, there is a video where Poppy uses the phrase "eveything is going to be a-okay" and a Mars Argo song is called "a-okay" Curious fact that I hope you like it, I invite you to support Mars Argo and Poppy, neither is to blame for what has happened, the only culprit here is Titanic, who manipulated both of them.

[@saso5096]

This is an interview with Sinclair's brother, worth a watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn66eKdorLpkabM

[@LoserBug420]

Was Shane Dawson in one of the clips with her?? It just looked like him is all lol😅

[@Trashvil]

Thank u so much for the update

[@sparklycinnabunz]

also mars uploaded a new song few months ago

[@accioyoongi]

@@LoserBug420yeah that’s shane

[@beegr8t]

Imagine being so obsessed that you take an entirely different girl and make her exactly like your ex..... yikes.

[@ghoste_girll]

OOF!!

[@alyssa1960]

And poppy sees nothing wrong with it, she’s either incredibly stupid, or completely brainwashed by titanic and is being abused herself, orrrr just a complete bitch who only cares about money and fame either way I don’t understand why people support her

[@denishavail1773]

@@alyssa1960 same...I've been saying this for a while. For the longest I couldn't figure who poppy reminded me of then last year some dude posted about this and I was like OMG she's copying Mars Argo. I lost the little respect I had for poppy. Titanic Sinclair is...I just can't believe he didn't do any jail time for what he did to her. Imagine living in constant fear every day.

[@M4th3u54ndr4d3]

Its just a character... Poppy and Mars Argo are CHARACTERS made by Titanic Sinclair.

[@marierieful]

@@alyssa1960 she just wants fame! such a sad rip off and poppy doesn't care who she steals from lol.

[@FearsomeVoid]

So the guy invented a creepy girl and got his girlfriend to play her, he harassed her, they broke up, then he got another girl with which he recreated his girlfriend. That sounds like a plot of a movie, I never would have thought that something like that could happen in real life.

[@Mika88Kenichi]

Well, reality is sometimes stranger than fiction

[@FearsomeVoid]

@Nicola Weinbacher I will.

[@nicolaweinbacher7712]

@@FearsomeVoid You won't regret it! Its a very good story and even has a sequel

[@xyphelion]

well now poppy split up with Tit*nic because he was very abusive. and whats even worse - TS has another gf who dyed ger hair from brunette to blonde

[@sooyaself2411]

that's so like a psychopath

[@ultimateempress1739]

They even look similar. He literally wanted to turn his girlfriends into robots he could control.

[@destinywilder4523]

He was still stuck on mars and tried to make poppy into her weirdo he’s sick

[@itskate2991]

Even tho they have much similar content, Mars’ was a lot less creepy. Poppy seems very brainwashed, controlled, and it’s all creepy. Mars’ you could tell was just odd skits. Poppy seems to really be lost in the character she plays.

[@inyrui]

she hasn't played that character in like over a year. she makes metal and alternative music now separate from Titanic Sinclair

[@itskate2991]

@@inyrui what does she go by?

[@ytbr3383]

But that's what her character should have been? I mean old Poppy, brainwashed MK ultra stuff so they succeed it seems. Now that's she's herself, she's cool and the music is great aswell.

[@MS-sk2yk]

I bet Poppy is the character Titanic really wanted to create. Mars was too human and real.

[@blastofo]

You don't know the woman playing Poppy. You also haven't heard Titanic give his side of the story. You guys think you know people and situations from a couple youtube videos. It's silly.

[@ringu9674]

He looks like this drunk dude that flirts on a club by whispering on your ear: "You are art"

[@cracklepop1203]

Darling Darling PFFT-

[@spookyspider2820]

Darling Darling *gross shivers*

[@yishunpan1483]

I thought u say fart or fat sorry lol

[@sydneybrooks6038]

Oh god gross

[@littlestbroccoli]

Ugggghhhh fuuuck bleghh

[@HokeyPokey81300]

So creepy that he would essentially create a carbon copy of his girlfriend after they broke up.

[@thiyy4h912]

Pumpkin God I see you everywhere ...

[@HokeyPokey81300]

ღAzuʟღ We must have similar taste in videos then

[@thiyy4h912]

Pumpkin God I agree

[@NecroSluzz]

My ex did this after we broke up..got her to cut her hair and even got her to wear my old clothes after I left.. When we first started going out he would say a lot of negative comments about my appearance and tried to persuade me to adopt a certain style, cut my hair and dress a certain way. He was a total narcissist, this Titanic guy sounds like a similar personality, especially the controlling of how his girlfriends looked

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

I see this often. And honestly my own husband when we separated he started hanging out with my twin. 🙄 i don't get it but i get it 🤷‍♀️

[@izzyfarrar4267]

I find it hilarious that Mars just appeared out of nowhere to file a lawsuit. Pop off queen drag the old man

[@crying4848]

and then she went back into hiding LMAOO that's iconic

[@killerbug05]

> files lawsuit against weirdo > elaborates > leaves Absolute icon

[@brandonwilson7718]

Someone wasn't getting enough attention 😂🤣 aww sorry, is Using You not good enough to merit a career? We have enough Weezer wannabe bands as it is.

[@quintetkuu4033]

@@brandonwilson7718lmao so out of touch, she's been releasing music solo now while poppy's ass has been irrelevant for ages now. not even the pandemic could save that grifting career. and titanic is grooming some other chick now LMAO

[@danicaarreola]

@@brandonwilson7718if she was reaching for attention she wouldnt have dipped right after filing the lawsuit, she would’ve used the “attention” for her gain dont you think ?

[@itsthatguyphil]

Since this came out in Oct. 2019... Here is an update on what happened since. Poppy sided with Mars. "Poppy later retracted her accusations towards Argo following her public split from Sinclair in December 2019, and alleged that she was a victim of the same psychological abuse Sinclair had inflicted on Argo."

[@60311]

Thank you for this!!

[@lalakuma9]

I'm disappointed that Titanic was never arrested for breaking & entering, plus all the other creepy stalker shit he committed.

[@cherryspice1011]

yea seriously! Like what the fuck????

[@evewatson7230]

like mars had proper evidence and they didn’t do them 😤

[@FrizzleLamb]

I read the comments before I was halfway through the video so I was wondering what the hell did the ship that sunk have to do with the video 😭😭😭 I'm sorry hhhh

[@xxcherrypandasxx7735]

IKR LIKE WHAT THE F***

[@sensualsanctuaries]

Same. And after all of that, Poppy retracted her statements and accused Titanic of doing the same shit to her.. smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@JoeBlow-ub1us]

dude just recreated his ex girlfriend, what a creep

[@seraphimxvoid7633]

I'm not siding with him AT ALL but maybe he thought he could fix the past

[@berrygyrl4134]

Exactly

[@seraphimxvoid7633]

@Liiyahh Two i get where your coming from but some people just dont see it that way they recreate the pain to feel better its confusing to explain

[@subpar7404]

What an incel amirite?

[@Rose921]

Actually true boiis

[@quack6440]

I've been punched before multiple times, I can confirm it doesn't always leave a mark. I was punched hard too in the same spot maybe 5 times? People don't prepare to get abused and it's not something you can always document.

[@muffindolphindaphnee]

THIS at the top of the comment section. For this yt creator to say it didnt sit well that Titanic seemingly punched Mars Argo dismisses her accusations as invalid or untrue and creates a bias for everyone watching this video! That was a terrible statement on this youtuber's video!!! Just bc u dont think it's abuse, it doesnt mean it isnt!!

[@rampagingshark]

now I want to see if you caught up with this story. Poppy ended up doing the same thing and split from Titanic and claimed he groomed her, manipulated her and physically and mentally abused her. She took her Poppy persona, dyed her hair black, donned a goth-bjork look and started acting more like a human and less perfect AI. She and Titanic are not in contact with each other anymore which makes all the allegations actually look legit.

[@ArtIsMyEndorphins]

You forgot the part that Titanic broke into Argos home and stole her clothes and then later Poppy wears them in a video

[@trish1238]

That happened? That’s so messed up and creepy

[@georgia8592]

@@trish1238 wow

[@missylou725]

Dude. Ugh.

[@etps4444]

That's.... really creepy.

[@ricev7071]

What a piece of shit! These girls need to date men with Balls because if I dated a girl and her ex did something this, someone's going to the hospital and it ain't me!!!

[@Ihatecornballs]

Insane how she didn’t even really want the money- she just wanted peace and to have the work that belonged to her back.

[@adi-qf2wb]

Her familys rich and disapproved of the titantic relationship off the start. She never did it for the money, titanic on the other handddd

[@szerencsefiai]

@@adi-qf2wb But you can never be sure you know? Like yes, her family disapproved their relationship, so maybe (and only maybe) they aren't in touch anymore? Or there can be literally anything. But yes, her family was doing great, so probably that, but also who come from rich families are tend to be "hungrier" for money. And by this I mean that if she wasn't so desperate about getting back *her* works' credits then she probably would have done this for the money. 🤷‍♀️

[@seyyy7833]

Sofia Rivera & the fact that she didn't tried getting clout from the incident amuses me.

[@M4th3u54ndr4d3]

The character was made by titanic sinclair. Mars Argo and Poppy are characters made by Titanic. So he is the creator, and he owns the characters

[@zveler]

@@szerencsefiai If she wasn't doing it for the money she wouldn't have settled the lawsuit.

[@eightskulls]

It's worth noting, that as of 2023, Mars Argo is back (to some extent). She released a song in 2022 and 2023, both released on her KZbin channel and Spotify and they're very good! Here's to hoping she can find her place once more and thrive

[@zoethestrange13]

Poppy is NOT DIRECTED BY TITANIC SINCLAIR ANYMORE she said he was controlling her and she had enough apparently they were dating to at one point and she suffered abuse from him too. Anyway they broken up now and Poppy makes her own music and doesn’t post those kind of videos anymore she’s doing her own thing and I really like it!

[@monikanikolova1099]

When your boyfriend coverts you into his ex's twin because he's so butt hurt from the break up!Priceless!

[@WhimsicalNessa]

Which is kinda weird, because, and I may be remembering incorrectly, Poppy was underage when they all met.

[@halogirl916]

@@WhimsicalNessa hipster Onision?

[@obscured9414]

@@halogirl916 стоп с онисион!

[@Lucy_Ford]

IDK, I think the project was an image he had inspired by Brittany Sheets and when they fell out he continued it without her.. I love Mars Argo persona though, it feels more genuine, Poppy is a bit more contrived...

[@mikeoxlong6205]

Monika Nikolova Then you file a false lawsuit to get attention back because youre talentless on your own

[@SuperSara924]

If you call yourself Titanic you’re asking to be a mess

[@masonrobertstv5917]

Sara Katherine that’s not his real name?

[@universe514]

a “wreck” if you will

[@thatoneperson2380]

Mason RobertsTV That’s the point he chose to be called that

[@hahah17]

@@universe514 i love u.

[@thatoneperson2380]

Dustpanda Music Aaaahhh that makes sense, my bad. It’s hard to figure out if someone is being sarcastic without hearing the tone of their voice.

[@rebeccaemma6293]

I’m glad to see poppy is out of that situation as well. She is also a victim, she is still responsible for some of the things she did to Mars but Sinclair is to blame for all of this

[@PhilipWester]

At "best", Poppy was so traumatized by her relationship with Titanic Sinclair she became a bad person because of it. She broke up with him in 2019 yet released what appears to be a Mars Argo diss track in 2020. Whatever she was like before her relationship with Titanic Sinclair, she's still a bad person NOW.

[@Santi_Barley]

When Titanic just drew a messed up drawing of Mar's mother, oh my gosh. It's so creepy. I feel like he's a psychopath trying to blend in with people.

[@ahmadizwanizwan1053]

Just like his name, Titanic is such a tragedy.

[@dannaok9769]

And a psychopath

[@angryyanderedev6525]

LOL

[@bloo3442]

This is an underrated comment.

[@maggiebryant498]

Not to mention a failure

[@asukalangelysoryu]

He also hit a iceberg.

[@braules]

I blame it all on Titanic, seems like he manipulated both of them girls

[@triplerstudios6108]

Yeah, just being a little naive, any girl can still get into some drama

[@heartsfromsunshine]

Rachel Durham Hi

[@JudyGarlandRulez152]

@@moonlightwinterbird8009 Word? Oh, shit!

[@Tyronejizz]

Your gonna blame Titanic? Who else could you blame it on?

[@SapphireZukotu]

​@@Tyronejizz Titanic. He's the abuser/problem child here, no? Poppy does have responsibility in the matter but stupid girls do stupid things for stupid men, she'll get hers one day I'm sure.

[@nancyr7759]

They're both lucky to be alive. He's the creepy guy your family warns you about.. I would think the first red flag was his name being Titanic. That never ends well. He can call himself an artist, but at the end of the day, he's an abusive narcissist. He doesn't care about the women, they're just props to him.

[@sageo7618]

Mars was like the quirky cool girl in high school everyone looked up to and wanted to be. Glad both girls are doing better now.

[@user-dl6un3io6b]

Nothing like a crazy, anger fuelled ex that makes a girl look just like you and then gets her to copy all your music and personality.

[@iterativegrowth]

Tale as old as time. :')

[@lbbmood]

Ivy Tarantino Their music isn’t even anything alike though

[@indiebaby]

Someone gotta save poppy. She's an asshole in this too don't get me wrong. I can only imagine Mars and Poppy are both victims of his guy's abuse. Poor ladies. Although I really do wish Poppy didn't go along with it, if it wasn't her, he would have found someone else to brainwash.

[@bluebones8518]

Some of their songs sound kinda similar, like listen to Time is Up by Poppy (2018 song) and then Save Me by Mars Argo (2011 song). I think it was intentional because Poppy and Titanic probably released Time is Up as a Mars diss, they did it on the date of one of the court hearings. And remember Save Me is produced by Johnny K, not Titanic

[@najadamu2724]

This is some Onision crossed with Single White Female type of shit.

[@hammyraisin]

*theory:* titanic was so obsessed with mars argo that after they broke up and he met poppy, he tried to turn her into another mars argo.

[@arandompersonlookingforclo7433]

@shane kzbin.info/www/bejne/nl64i6ODaKhgipY you'll get even more clout

[@e.rosenfeld4193]

I mean obviously

[@lilac3862]

Lol the video just said that

[@purpleteardropss]

its not theory its for real

[@MrNiceguy3210]

This isn't even a theory? That's an objective fact of the whole situation? That's like saying THEORY: MARS ARGO STOPPED MAKING VIDEOS. Watch the video before you say something.

[@Saddbab3]

I really love Mars Argo and I’ve been listening to her music a lot recently. I hope she comes back, her fan base is still growing. And we all believe her.

[@penelopeyoung3071]

the fact that poppy went out of her way to say that the abuse that mars endured was not real, claimed that she had been abused, faked being hurt by a lawsuit, and then denied allegations makes me so angry

[@5xl3m]

He's named Titanic 'cause this is a shipwreck

[@Gee-xb7rt]

She is named Mars after another shipwreck. Sinclair and Argo are names of electric cars. Corey even named her Mars Argo.

[@planesight1142]

and the name Sinclair means 'the jungle is rotten" ...hey kids, look up Upton Sinclair "The Jungle"

[@starless1444]

His real name is Corey Mixter.

[@planesight1142]

@@starless1444 , yes.

[@Khai-MediaCo]

Maybe Mars Argo should change her name to ICEBERG.

[@urmomwastakenwastakentoo]

i feel like titanic couldn’t get over the fact that mars argo broke up with him and he was still obsessed with her so he tried to create someone just like her aka poppy to feed his obsession

[@catelinlam5594]

Ikr it like there his dolls or something

[@jade2622]

Wow-

[@summerwhixh]

Literally

[@swagminstradamus6013]

Hi army

[@jiminsjams4440]

Oof. That's crazy.

[@oliviab7438]

This is well written and fairly objective, and it holds up for what info you had at the time. I appreciate it. It would be interesting to get an update video regarding Poppy's split from Titanic and her statement about that, and the ensuing drama.

[@maxbesta7381]

i appreciate you for putting this video together i’m sure it was a lot of work but i loved it. i found the song today and just like a lot of other people, i wish i had found mars’s music sooner. i hope she returns now that everything seems to have sorta cleared

[@zencoleman6347]

“This video is sponsored by Adam & Eve.” Yeah, didn’t see that one coming.

[@jaboi7709]

Isn't he 17 tho???

[@zencoleman6347]

That’s bizarre

[@hyeronymus]

@@zencoleman6347 fr

[@momster64]

That's what she said...😃

[@ISaidWhatISaidd]

That lady's face wtf

[@kholoud3018]

Plot twist : Mars Argo and Poppy reunite and plan a revenge against titanic sinclaire.

[@dazedhorizons]

HELL YEAH!

[@love-so-sweet]

THEY NEED TO BECOME BEST FRIENDS ISTG

[@SickIncKamikaze]

Titanic Must Die.

[@katherinek3314]

More like poppy continues to act just like mars Argo and it probably creeps her the fuck out

[@miwitistic]

NANI?!?

[@Gengrel]

About a month after you released this Poppy and Sinclair split and 'surprise' Poppy had some stories of her own to tell including how she was abused by Sinclair just like Mars Argo had been.

[@MsMissaLynn]

Im so glad your older videos are getting pushed ❤ I hope your week is goin good

[@codes114]

Mars is actually coming back. She'll be in a movie called "American Dinner" in 2020. She's also hinted at a new album.

[@JudyGarlandRulez152]

How'd you find out?

[@xnng]

Keep me updated man

[@xnng]

Cause I haven’t heard any of this

[@codes114]

To everyone wondering how I know this: The movie comes from her IMDB page. She was added in the credits. The album is not confirmed, but she's hinted at it. On Instagram, a fan said, "@marsargo, like this if you are making an album this year." She liked it. On her Tumblr, a fan asked what kind of content she'll be uploading to KZbin when she returns. She responded, "You'll see".

[@guestii5156]

I thought mars shot herself....

[@paninicupcake2108]

Y’all cancel every youtuber for stupid petty drama but not men like this who deserve it.

[@depressedegirl5470]

Kassy Flowers I agree that a lot goes undetected, but you have to admit, we’re doing a good job at taking down onision..

[@misaloelric2455]

Just Some Person Lol fuck onision

[@SapphireZukotu]

@@misaloelric2455 Last I heard his type is 17 year old girls, I don't know if they reach his criteria.

[@misaloelric2455]

Zuzu and from his ex, shiloh, he is into loli p*rn and locked his ex out of the room so he could f*p to it. It's fucked up

[@brittanybonnie1478]

just because they say somebody cancelled means nothing...ive never seen anybody actually get cancelled unless youtube remove their channel

[@lilyandlife9902]

can we j appreciate what mars had to go through.. she deserves the world

[@geggy310]

And now Mars Argo has returned and is making great music again. It’s kind of amazing how Mars Argo was so silent for years and she finally acknowledged what was going on in music. And now both Poppy and Mars Argo are putting their experience and anger from what happened into their music. I would love to see them collaborate on a song.

[@zipperXie]

Sounds to me like Mars Argo didn't give a crap about the money... She just wanted control of her own life and body back.

[@guppy9161]

She herself comes from a wealthy family so she doesn’t need ut

[@gingerwallets8000]

it was the principle of the thing she was after

[@greenadewashere]

@@guppy9161 ok "guppy" wait.....I think I heard that name before....oh the name of titanic's song hating on mars

[@guppy9161]

@@greenadewashere Actually Brittany wanted to reinvent herself and make new music under the name Guppy and titanic made a derogatory song about her and called it that so she couldn’t call herself that

[@val3454]

@@guppy9161 Yeah yeah no need to over explain something that's already been mentioned in the video

[@hhhhhhhhhh1919]

That dude looks like he’s gonna tell me I didn’t “really understand” pulp fiction

[@alliec3483]

Hannah 😭😭😂

[@gizmodobaggins7040]

Well did you not? That movie was sick

[@hhhhhhhhhh1919]

gizmodo baggins lmao why don’t u go make out with ur fight club poster

[@gizmodobaggins7040]

Hannah I haven’t watched fight club, but that does sound tempting

[@singing115]

@@hhhhhhhhhh1919 Pulp fiction is a great movie. What has it got to do with anything?

[@justlola5651]

You should’ve updated the story, poppy exposed titanic and confirmed he was abusive and he treated her the same way he treated mars, he even controlled poppy to make her copy mars and now she broke free and releases alternative metal which is the music she likes, she even uses her real name every now and then

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

Primink stopped making videos years ago.

[@JayJayIsKayKay]

Welp not anymore

[@miskyy2382]

the fact that your have researched all of this is just amazing !

[@rzy7192]

my conclusion: relationships are horrible and I should stay single.

[@tarae9219]

Anarcho Frills um I think this was a joke

[@kristinwhite4472]

There are many good people it’s just a few bad apples that ruin the whole image. Don’t worry, I’m positive you will find someone who loves you for you and treats you right ❤️

[@elvenrune3062]

@@kristinwhite4472 First off, it's a joke. Second, they may be aromantic (or asexual) or just not like the idea of dating/etc. I'm not trying to be rude btw, cause that's a very inspiring and thoughtful comment ♡ just trying to inform :)

[@kristinwhite4472]

Elven Rune I know it’s a joke lol 😂 and you’re right about the asexual and aromatic thing... also thank you for saying my comment was inspiring 😊

[@elvenrune3062]

@@kristinwhite4472 No problem! Hope you're doing well during this time 😊 Have a nice day!

[@shanna5629]

mom: what are you reading? me: oh just a 50 page long lawsuit

[@rb7619]

Law students be like

[@Sypaka]

Mom: What's it about? Me: Let me switch to porn, it's easier to explain.

[@loop5720]

Yeyeyeyeyy, am your 2,000 comment's liker!!!! Yeyeyeyeyeyy

[@Grace-iv1ho]

Ngl, I’m thirteen and my mum had me read their incredibly long and detailed lawsuit thing lmao

[@scrollingdownaswespeak]

Now that you mentioned that. I suddenly have the urge to read it as well so.....bye~ I mah read it now

[@RinRiot1980]

I totally believe Mars Argo. Only a victim of intimate partner violence would've taken that settlement.

[@unironicallydel7527]

Sinclair was really fuckin creepy.The best way to describe him is a 'dollmaker' him and Mars break up. then he 'recreates' her using Poppy, but without her personality. Poppy was more robotic and lifeless, and Sinclair liked it that way. Then he goes on to abuse Poppy in somewhat of the same fashion. Its an extremely creepy story. Basically a 'real life' creepypasta. and maybe he went on to replace Poppy as well? I never read too far into it. Looking into the comments, it seems like he tried to at the very least.

[@ItsLittleOhMe]

I feel so bad for Mars Argo, Titanic cheated on her then literally ruined her career and life to the the point she had to hide and move away, leave all of her social medias and stop making music, all while he was mocking her with a replica showing how easily replaceable she was and how she needed him. like he blocked any opportunity she had to continue her career and tried to remove all her friends from her life, the thing she needed was to not have him in her life but yet he still thinks she didn't make it because she didn't have him... he needs serious help and I hope Mars is doing better now and healing. I will never support anything he ever does or has a part in creating

[@Hikarahime]

Aleesha Yes, this whole thing seems like Sinclair‘s petty way of getting revenge and hurting Argo. I don’t know if Poppy/Mariah has anything to do with this. She could be being used by Sinclair as well. If Sinclair was abusive with Argo, couldn’t he be with Poppy/Mariah?

[@MarMai5]

I'm glad I watched this video because I had NO idea about any of this and now I know Poppy and her manager are just stalking bullies. I never liked Poppy but now I'm purposefully avoiding them.

[@xlectraheart]

it's highly possible he cheated on her with poppy

[@Gallagherxz]

She is doing a lot betterr rnow her real name is Brittney Sheets and she has confirmed that she will again release music one day

[@Skyler_Momoko]

Same.

[@jreverie7018]

God that guy seems like such a manipulative creep. It’s a shame they have such impressionable fans. Awful.

[@noach8207]

Tbh idc stream i disagree

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

I still like Poppy and Titanic for their music

[@TECfan1]

I honestly don't give a shit about the background drama. Poppy's music is good so that's all I care for. And Poppy has become way more than what Mars ever was. Mars and Titanic just made some smaller stuff that was very simple and at this point, Poppy isn't even really like that anymore. Her videos are a lot more dark and her music has become pop metal.

[@TheWoostergirl]

@@TECfan1 I don't think this qualifies as "background drama". Drama is silly and pointless and this is just calling for some legal matter.

[@jinj238]

It sucks that he became famous. He sounds horrid.

[@marsdaplanet]

its always good to come back and watch this video every few years

[@chenierjauresyabut8884]

I keep checking him out for new content :

[@dancexcrazier19]

@@chenierjauresyabut8884yeah why did he stop uploading??

[@hannah6594]

Just found your channel and I really really love it. Your voice, the way you research and build up the video is so professionell. I really love your sweet voice and the laughing it sounds authentic 🥰🥰 keep up your good work it’s nice to see your videos. Hope you won’t disappear any time soon ☺️lots of love from Germany ❤️🙏🏻

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

So this is the Onision that succeeded in life. Huh.

[@zking2929]

Damn

[@obscured9414]

оставь на покое.

[@rebecca8866]

My thoughts exactly lmfao

[@Vampxiii_]

A Better Tomorrow honestly

[@thaliafranceska]

I thought so too...

[@apassmore6573]

Good thing Poppy and Titanic Sinclair are separated professionally now. She's under a different label and doesn't credit Titanic in her videos anymore.

[@ratssstick]

But she's still using a concept that isn't hers.

[@apassmore6573]

@@ratssstick as far as we know, she's forming it into her own idea.

[@damienthonk1506]

@@ratssstick A concept doesn't really belong to anybody lol

[@ratssstick]

@@damienthonk1506 no? You can copyright concepts. That's what intellectual property copyright is.

[@salemthecat8020]

​@@ratssstick Agree with you, a lot of people defend her and claim she's a victim too, but she knew what she was doing and even mocked Mars Argo's statements. At the end she gained all the fame and money that belonged to the other girl. She agreed to steal the concept and image, even is she's adding her own ideas, it's still a shady thing to do. The only good thing about this is that Mars Argo is gonna appear in a movie next year.

[@1lesa242]

I really like your videos. It sounds so real. Like you let your humor and personality come out. Nice work

[@dravarian26]

I still have a bunch of mars argo music downloaded to my computer I got in 2011-2012. The original youtube videos have all been deleted, but every once in a while i search mars argo to see what became of her weird disappearance. Seeing poppy come up with similar music was super weird Glad that poppy is also free of sinclair now too.

[@teyonie8692]

I genuinely pray for Mars’ mental health and peace of mind. To be manipulated, abused, and taunted like that is sickening. Titanic will one day get his karma.

[@ichhichlefich1]

I kinda pray for titanics mental health bc.. hes crazyyyyy 😭

[@TeaSesh]

Hopefully

[@bret633]

lmao... "karma"? he should be in jail.

[@donedone874]

Agreed and I lost all respect for poppy for condoning and DEFENDING that shit

[@televisionmind]

It's sad how the internet forgot about Mars Argo until now

[@blazereho811]

Nah. I watched poppy back around 2015-2016 and mars Argo was talked about a ton back then. We just didn’t know half the shit that was covered in this video

[@televisionmind]

@@blazereho811 That's the thing- she was only spoken about because of Poppy and Titanic. Her identity as an individual artist was stripped away, only to be seen as a look upon the dark history that led to her abusers fame

[@retrosock216]

LilPissum I’ve never forgotten, I still have a Mars Argo shirt I wear.

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

I never forgot

[@kappecat9225]

Anytime I watch poppy videos Mars Argo vids pop up as related videos.

[@dominichernandez3614]

Watching this a year later and I still appreciate the amount of reading you did for this video. Thank you king👏🏽

[@somesalmon5694]

Its so sad for mars Argo, I've been listening and loving her music for nearly a decade now and still love her music

[@CIP3RM]

Poppy recently released a statement backing up Mars Argo's claims and disavowing Titanic! Would love to see an update.

[@lauriemegan]

Do you have a link??

[@karinabermudez8383]

@@lauriemegan Edwins Generation made a video about that and the whole rabbit hole. There's a bit more to the story, but Poppy is an awful person.

[@lukefrew631]

Check out the recent episode of "In the dark: My Valentine"....just saying

[@koldskalbanden7991]

Megan Laurie link for anyone who’s interested: mobile.twitter.com/poppy/status/1211006950160269313

[@julesmikell4198]

@@lukefrew631 don't. It's a third party capitalizing on someone's trauma

[@maddie_vw2182]

Who else is really bored during quarantine and decided to watch tea pages lmao

[@cecilia1300]

Haylee Maggerman yes

[@lilymbae386]

Yeapp

[@dainty_sley1101]

🙋🏾‍♀️

[@anunknownperson4018]

i finally found a good one which is this youtuber😎

[@nicnic2099]

Haylee Maggerman lemme say hi HAHHAHA

[@worldcrimeonlinerealitymed1547]

"Hi everyone, I'm a director" *Adam and Eve ad in big red font pops up* I wasn't ready.

[@sportskitty]

12,000 TWEETS???! That girl went through it, and I'm glad she spoke up and fought back. 💪

[@JM-iu2ss]

He's literally the text book "abusive boyfriend"

[@fivesageger6651]

My mans really just got sponsored by an adult toy store.

[@bendover2684]

On a Site mostly Viewed by Young children.....

[@AllieBee00]

@@bendover2684 lol KZbin isn't just for kids nor is poppy so if a child is watching this then that is the parent fault period.

[@kayjay5349]

@@bendover2684 OK, Boomer.

[@eb.3764]

i saw this just as the video showed it

[@Earthsong-nb1wz]

pfft your name

[@orchids.]

My mom: "Go read book or go out and breathe" Me: 'Mk' also me: " Mars's lawsuit it is"

[@Ornithorhynchus.]

A guy with the cutest, most childlike innocent voice sponsoring an adult toy store is the best part of the video imo.

[@keenneah]

That ice cream clip was scary.

[@Frostikins]

leahthechick how wouldn’t it be??

[@saltzarlies4324]

I was immediately like wtfwtf help ewwww ewwwww

[@haileyvines9171]

Dude literly I was scrolling through the comments while watching and when that clip came on I scrolled up trying to get rid of it even though it wouldn't work I was just creeped out

[@NIYAHYT]

leahthechick and with black one in the movie theater

[@angelicasysnila5476]

I am watching it at 2:30 am and I got so scared that I had to cover my screen and wait until the scene went away

[@fallingdream]

Titanic Sinclair is a complete creep. He's a predator, end of.

[@vitoalfredmurdock3902]

"Why don't you take a seet over there"

[@MrJJSpazz]

The Falling Dream nah he is InNoCeNt

[@yellowhouse4911]

@@callumb4980 there literally was a lawsuit and pictures included that he broke into her house , sat outside her house , broke her stuff and manipulated her social media lmao what more prove to you need that hes a predator ???

[@CerealForMe]

Princessy Jessie 1. an animal that naturally preys on others. "wolves are major predators of rodents" 2. a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others. "a website frequented by sexual predators" a company that tries to take over another. Doesn’t have to be child related at all

[@Lettheflamesbeginx3]

@@jessicac8005 what they're referring to is a predatorial person, i.e. someone who preys upon other people, not necessarily a 'child predator,'

[@katw.6519]

12:30 : I have to say, I had an abusive ex who wanted to stop me from going to Japan at all costs as well; he became more and more desperate as the time of my departure became imminent. If I hadn't left...I don't know. I do know I was able to end it with the space between us, and he KNEW that- thus the desperation, threats, etc. I didn't want people to know, I didn't want to *believe* it was that bad, if that makes sense...some things you don't document because they completely unhinge your, your faith in yourself and others, love, everything. Pictures don't seem so important when you life as you known it has just shattered. This seems very familiar. Does her story make a little more sense now?

[@cherrycola0]

I'm "learning" about all these people since I stumbled upon your page. Never heard of them until now

[@tenzinaa]

Imagine Poppy and Groot talking to each other, Groot: Hi, I'm Groot. Poppy: Hi, I'm Poppy. Groot: I'm Groot. Poppy: I'm Poppy.

[@Sakshighhh]

This comment made my day in this quarantine lol

[@justcallmebu]

Batman: I'm Batman

[@thoticcusprime9309]

@@Sakshighhh still in that ? lmao, things back to shitty normal here. besides the masks

[@teklagabrichidze542]

I'm blue daba dee daba die

[@nicholasj.bonniecrawfordab2346]

*_"I'M GROOT."_*

[@daniellewalker256]

They should make a movie about this and call it “Obsession” and give Mars Argo all the profits.

[@heiroot]

I love that idea.

[@wrenniebae3092]

holy shit that would be epic

[@peppermorrison]

YES

[@axkela]

And the opening might be Mariah Carey's 'obsessed' remix 😂

[@ilovenutella4464]

Walker, you're a genius

[@bettymash6181]

Ok you had me at reading ALL 50 pages. That's so much dedication in informing me/entertaining and I appreciate. Subscribed!!! 😁😁😁😁

[@ember--dot--mp3]

This video is actually how I found out Mars Argo exists and now she's my favourite music artist And I appreciate the amount of research you put into this

[@ewvolleyball]

Titanic is probably a manipulative freak who’s blackmailing girls into being his doll

[@mochi_4726]

Mayhaps but who knows

[@georgia8592]

Pretty much

[@mrbeansfan9036]

Speckled Legs definitely not worse, probably just on the same level

[@mrbeansfan9036]

Lucia what the fuck dude

[@kura4058]

@Speckled Legs mhm

[@misguidedcurrents]

poppy and titanic aren’t working together anymore, by the way. they unfollowed each other on instagram, and he deleted most of his pictures with her. surprised that no one’s talking about this, it happened like 2 weeks ago. update: poppy just made a statement today confirming that she left titanic, and also revealed that she experienced similar abuse/manipulation to what mars argo went through. PSA: please don’t support titanic sinclair or any of his future endeavors. he is an abuser.

[@misguidedcurrents]

cat yeah, i heard that too! i just hope titanic doesn’t find another girl to abuse. stan mars argo lol :)

[@letihanson5954]

Damnnn that’s great. He gets what he deserves. Poppy keeps the fame she worked for and he gets dropped off just like he did to poor Mars. And Mars is coming out with an album and starting in a movie next year 💜

[@cutiesushis5187]

I wonder what poppy is going to do now

[@SM-gt9vg]

Ah thank you for posting. I was checking up on his social media and I'm finding stuff out too. I think it was way too soon to say "why didn't he get canceled like the others?" because it looks like it has happened and he's getting what he deserves.

[@lwes4]

@@letihanson5954 wait what? how did she get movie?

[@cassiedraper598]

Why am I just now seeing this account?? I love your vids and that you spend sm time getting all the info it’s 👌🏼👌🏼

[@tillaxrat1304]

I didn’t know poppy made videos until now! I just listened to their music. This video was lovely and did a great job talking about the topic! I think that Poppy’s new songs stray away from their old style, and I enjoy listening to them more than their old music! The new songs seem to fit them more in my opinion.

[@brittnaywarfel6198]

I feel like Mars Argo settling for just being left alone kinda proves she wasn’t lying about abuse

[@okhi9822]

Birthday Waffles no shit... how TF was she supposed to document her getting punched?

[@Pictochatz]

Knowing Mars Argo there’s literally no reason she would lie about that

[@okhi9822]

Matt there's no reason for anybody to lie about something like that

[@brittnaywarfel6198]

Emily 361 Why are you so aggressive? Also... uhh people take pictures afterwards? What you mean?

[@okhi9822]

Birthday Waffles just because you get punched doesn't mean there's any marks.i was abused for years and I never ran to a camera and tried to get proof. I'm guessing you never been abused.

[@chaseonyourcase]

I feel like Mars was... beautifully her own. She always felt more genuine and odd naturally. And I think Sinclair took that and made poppy into a mini Mars out of spite to prove Argo she could be replaced.

[@zr5581]

Poppy is more herself now and does more metal esc type music and doesnt copy mars argos soft grunge esc music

[@bunnie187]

chasethetuna Tbh with you, I don't think Poppy's whole gig was a ripoff. She was meant to be some sort of robot/illuminati puppet character. Mars was never trying to be that. I think most of the aesthetic similarities just come down to them both being directed by Titanic. Saying Mars did it better just isn't really a good equivalence. But that doesn't mean Titanic didn't try to abuse Mars through it, and Poppy knew that full well.

[@bryanthetromboneband4life307]

bunnie I agree with the first half but poppy was manipulated and emotionally abused by him. He would literally tell her he would end his own life if she ever left him

[@sarahholland2600]

He's one of those guys whose girlfriends are clones of each other. To a creepy extent.

[@ravennightshade2644]

Another thing, the photo, at 12:45 with Poppy wearing a leopard print jacket, it actually belongs to Mars and Titanic stole it while breaking in her house

[@monkeygoesbananas]

This whole situation really soured me on poppy. I literally cant stand her because i just keep thinking about the ways she mocked mars argo

[@monthly.girls.digital8728]

Im not big on Poppy but in her defense, she was also being abused by him. Recently she came out about it since she was able to leave the situation. Even at the time, Mar Argo said that she didn't fully blame Poppy because she recognized that she was also being abused. Plus she was 19 when she first started playing Poppy but she could have met him when she was even younger. This guy has a system to use and abuse women and while I do think Poppy did Mars Argo bad I can't fully blame her when her life was being controlled, for years, by an abuser. It's just very complex.

[@nutterbutter865]

Me too, and the fact Poppy came out and said Mars wasn’t being abused? Horrible

[@eliza1826]

@@monthly.girls.digital8728that’s no excuse, she wasn’t forced to copy mars Argo was she? This is such a pathetic cope

[@eliza1826]

@@monthly.girls.digital8728you’re paid by poppy

[@anafano1613]

*Update: Poppy cut ties with Titanic. She also made similar accusations as Mars Argo did. Poppy also said that Titanic was very manipulative and used suicide as a way if manipulation... I'm just glad Moriah broke free from this man, although; I'm worried his gonna find another young vulnerable girl to take advantage.

[@nakoda787]

Wait when and where did this happen

[@bayinthebooks4286]

he's got a new girlfriend now. hopefully nothing bad happens again

[@bayinthebooks4286]

@@marsargoru yea each girl he has been with always looks Mars.....

[@Melissa-wx4lu]

I'm I the only one that can't imagine how threatening suicide can control anyone? Like "If you do this thing I don't want you to do, I'll kill myself." Like am I just heartless? I'd be like. "Well don't make a mess when you do it." and peace the fuck out. I guess if that threat works, the person has been majorly manipulated into thinking that would be a bad thing, and perhaps their fault.

[@anafano1613]

@@nakoda787 I am not sure when exactly but a while. If you are curious about the details I recommend you to look up, there are a few videos that have been made.

[@NWB-NerdyWhileBlack]

Im a lil disturbed that Adam and Eve accept returns.

[@daybyday0731]

Ewe🤢 no way...

[@jedithekitten8891]

Ummm ew 🤢🤢

[@user-gn9vg4dd8j]

they probably clean and/or destroy the returned toys.

[@laylolireesesq4787]

Uh...I think I know *but I kinda don't* but to be honest *~~~I don't want to~~~~*

[@Bugsfuckingbunny]

@@goldkpae3830 don't blaspheme pls God bless

[@Gold-wc1qq]

Thank you for all your hard work

[@arnoldhey6515]

The issue i have with this girl was she enabled and helped participate with her abusive ex to stalk and harrass Mars Argo. They and their fans really harrassed Mars to the point where she had to hide and stop pursuing her love for music. Im glad that both girls made it out of those relationships with that abusive guy, but even to this day poppy doesn't have her own identity. She just copies whoever she associates with (ghostemane and grimes) and this will be her down fall.

[@brandonwilson7718]

"they and their fans"? Talk normally

[@brandonwilson7718]

She did have an identity. It was as the woman who makes Grammy worthy music with Chris greatti and zakk cervini. Now her new identity is to make irrelevant, boring, 90s inspired, dirty pop, or "riot grrrl" music. Which isn't a very popular thing these days, obviously. So who is she taking her identity from now then?

[@joni4423]

I honestly love this guy. He explains things so detailed without being rude. I loved how he talked about Breland. Props to this dude.

[@cariowen]

I thought you were talking about titanic sinclair and i was like 👁👄👁

[@libbyplayz9708]

Same 🥺

[@WolfieWolfely]

yeah its true

[@DeeDeeRatchford]

Same that's exactly why I subscribed, so shocking to me we had the same exact thoughts. Also the atmosphere he makes with music, and jokes keep me here.

[@WolfieWolfely]

omg we all share the same thoughts

[@angela.luntian]

its why she shifted from the """normal girl satire""" style mars argo did. Now shes harder on the "im a robot" theme.

[@marsii]

She's been kind of out of character in recent times, it seems like Moriah is being inserted into the persona in some form now, more than previously at least.

[@Hsm4everFanClub]

she hasn't been doing the "I'm a robot shtick" for more than a year

[@lbbmood]

Angela Kartolína Luntian No she isn’t.. she’s doing metal music now and isn’t acting like a weird robot anymore at all

[@GucciStinkbug]

@@lbbmood Which is great! We love a queen who develops a unique style

[@WhimsicalNessa]

I ha dang kept up with Poppy since the whole court case, but she had to change styles due to one of their many agreements.

[@toriplayssg]

What!!!!! How did you so briefly mention the part that he drew a creepy ass picture of his mother and posted it saying he misses his mother but it was MARS’S MOTHER !?! that’s some creepy shit

[@dafilmqueen556]

The depravity just doesn't end, does it? And neither does the horror. Horror I can handle (I've already been a bit desensitized to that I'm afraid), but human depravity? Oh no my friend, I do not stan!

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Great info thanks !

[@xDARKxANGELxFaZEx]

i dated someone like Titanic Sinclair. they have damn near identical mannerisms too, and my ex is genuinely the most awful person I’ve ever met. i feel sooo bad for Mars Argo. edit: i’m sorry you guys had to go thru similar situations. nobody deserves to be treated like that. 🤍

[@lauren.xo.]

Unfortunately, I did too. It took me so long to get away from him. So sorry you had to deal with that bullshit. I hope this girl gets what she's looking for. 🖤✨

[@TheCruellaDevil1]

Oh my god. I didnt notice until i read this comment. I dated someone just like him as well. Fuck.

[@jinxboo]

It's a long ride

[@oliviawright78579941]

Same and mine still doesn’t respect the restraining order and still tries to belittle my reputation

[@TreebeardsHome]

I dated a violent, controlling abuser, 5yrs. Thank goodness Mars is ok and has her intellectual property back. So glad he’s out of her life.

[@kierstenmilburn]

Who would defend this guy at all, he is a stalker literally tweeted about her 12,000 times tf

[@azurescenss]

for real though

[@DCNRS90YT]

I wouldn't support him, I support his art though.

[@yellowhouse4911]

@@callumb4980 he deleted 12.000 tweets that mentioned her. It doesnt matter that some of them were posted before they broke up , he tweeted about her 12.000 times! Thats not normal.

[@yellowhouse4911]

@@callumb4980 he was asked to delete every tweet mentioning her. The fact that he found it easier to delete 12k tweets before a certain date rather than every tweet specifically mentioning her is not to his benefit.

[@punkybrewstar83]

@@callumb4980 The evidence shows that he was more than just controlling. The number of the tweets is hardly an issue compared to the nature of what he said. Callum, if you are tweeting a long time after your relationship has ended, disturbing cartoons about missing your ex-girlfriend's mother, then you are a sick fuck pure and simple. You are not "controlling", you are not a victim; fucking get help.

[@4hand561]

She didn’t steal it she’s essentially hired to play a character