Prince Harry is Spare

[@marsohlala]

Spare Book Summary: I am not born first. I am a victim. Waaagh.

[@unrefinedconsumer]

the suits commentary had me on the floor

[@katehodges1058]

It seems to me that he is just moving from british aristocracy to American aristocracy

[@sunnyadams5842]

To what Aristocracy in America do you refer?? He is NOT hobnobbing with them, if there is one- which there isn't (Update as of 6/16/24)

[@quester09]

well, he tried...

[@Deee423]

*American mediocrity 😂

[@RedShoes29]

It just occurred to me now that since Harry is no longer in the UK and possibly no longer in contact with his mates, he has more free time because he's not going on so many lads trips anymore.

[@celebritymemoirbookclub]

With less lads trips he may finally have time to solve world hunger

[@iphotons]

I am probably going to have nightmares about his nonchalance about murdering people, this is so disturbing to me 😭

[@laurahgp]

you guys are the best omg, we truly appreciate how much effort you put in, to get this episode out as soon as possible ❤️

[@celebritymemoirbookclub]

[@Deee423]

“Meghan’s being hunted”….*footage not found*

[@kks5553]

omg the airline analogy. so happy this episode is out! Love you girls!

[@beccapeck5102]

I also had a hard time with the war bit.

[@mulan2010]

Well done!

[@MacBaza]

My wife and I love you two and you've become our favorite podcast.

[@Umna111]

Binge watching.. you’re both fabulous.

[@aninhav.dlinden9835]

The “mustve been nice” comment about the yacht in the beginning sounds so petty sarcastic towards the media. I think he meant its not true but super sassy lol

[@gabrielle7540]

I was hollering all through this lmao

[@beccapeck5102]

You nailed it with the diff between men and women on marriage and dating. This was also why he had to be told to shine a light. Sorry to my men friends. I love my hubs. He is a bit thick when it comes to common sense stuff. Hubs is a brilliant programmer. It's surprising to me the diff.

[@owtsideperspective3588]

Just in time

[@celestestang340]

was dying to hear your opinions on this book

[@naimahal-azeez1728]

To be fair to Harry, his mother was about fairness. Diana treated him and William equally, regardless if they were airs and spares, so I can see how he would think the palace would treat him fairly.

[@hdubbs9174]

I think Meghan and Harry are two incredibly basic self-aggrandizing people, who have bought into their own myth. They make me cringe, but are still people, so I appreciate that you snarked with decency. You're right-- the snark is ruined by the crazies, who wish violence on them. That phrase from Meghan on her first date was so stupid and corny--if you said that in Europe most people would give you a side eye. In October 2016, 3.5 months after her first date with Harry she published the article "How to be Both" on her blog --which is that phrase in article form. Tell me she wasn't positioning herself to marry a prince from very early on in the relationship. That is a woman prioritizing marriage. This book shows him as the ultimate himbo frat-boy bro and Meghan is a basic California girl. Ultimately, I draw the same conclusion as you: Harry is not capable right now (or maybe ever) of understanding the system in which he was raised. How could he possibly have helped Meghan navigate it? I also completely agree that his failure to prioritize his battles with the press diminishes the gravity of their heavier struggles. But that's to be expected from the guy was intimidated by Meghan reading "Eat, Pray, Love".

[@baileyevanshunter]

This was an amazing summary!

[@whatevergoesforme5129]

He is just pretending to disdain fancy things. Otherwise, he wouldn't have chosen to live in Montecito. He is used to fancy stuff. He was born royal and will always be royal.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Do you actually believe Harry has been allowed to make a single CHOICE since the Spider sat beside him.? She needs the trappings of ostentation... I think he might be happier in a tent on the Sahara...

[@unrefinedconsumer]

Charles' inferiority complex is diabolical

[@RedShoes29]

That man is ugly inside and out. What a horrible man. The only person he probably loved is Camilla Parker Bowles

[@susanstephan7689]

Love that I have so many episodes to catch up on now that I've discovered this podcast! Regarding the military service part: There are plenty of military jobs that don't involve direct combat. Not sure why he's complaining about "special treatment". People do those jobs every day because that's what they're assigned, not because they're "special" in any way and framing it that way is sort of dismissive of their important contributions if you're as gung ho about the "cause" or "mission" as he claims to be.

[@OMGitsShrimp]

I don’t he’s complaining. He’s just pointing out that there is a motivation and a vested interest, to keep royals in the military safe from danger, while for other members of the military it’s not really like that.

[@curvelinedot]

gurllls so excited to wwatch this

[@beccapeck5102]

My hubs and I watched the news break in 1997. I said to my husband, "I bet she pays the medical staff handsomely to claim she died so she can disappear and escape the toxic family and media. Since they all constantly gaslight her." I was stunned to read that H felt the same. Grief is so tricky. Our minds take odd turns to help us go on and handle the grief. I believe Hs view of his Mother's death as disappearance was a 12 yo boys process to understand her absence. As an adult, he reads the police report. i can't remember if it was before or after he started therapy. Probably after. It was through reviewing the police report he finally comes to terms with her death. The initial belief she disappeared and would return was honestly a 12 yo you boys attempt to handle his beloved mothers death.

[@lorrainetaylor7555]

Give over jeez 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@beccapeck5102]

@lorrainetaylor7555 really? You can't let Harry's inner 12 yo grieve his dead Mom? FTLOP! It's how HE grieved. NO one has the right to tell him it's wrong how he grieved. Anymore than anyone has the right to tell you how to grieve when you lose someone close to you.

[@lorrainetaylor7555]

So are you saying that this excuses he’s behaviour in what he’s been doing the last few years to he’s family… the grifting spoilt brat

[@m-alexandria-g]

You were way ahead of the curve in multiple ways, as “gaslighting” wasn’t thrown around by non-filmmakers/non-psychologists until the social media era.

[@beccapeck5102]

My Grandfather used that phrase. He was born in 1909.

[@gabrielle7540]

Ive listened to this 3x and screamed laughing.

[@dawntripp1974]

I’m so glad I found your review of this book. I was wanting to hear a in un-biased review! Thanks!

[@FilmGrouch]

Bread and circuses - nothing has changed. We are all fed and feed the machine. But, I thank you kind ladies for doing the grunt work of reading this one so I didn't have to compromise my integrity with hypocrisy to shell out the money to support this book.

[@kkuljit]

I have family in England, and yea suits was huge there, and I also thought this was weird lol

[@beccapeck5102]

I think, as a person, it would be so hard to live in the public eye. I was a horrible teenager. Honestly, who of us wasn't a horrible teenager. I would be mortified to have teen transgressions splashed on the tabloids. As mentioned in the prolog, H says the book is an explanation to his dad and brother why he left.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

Ican only imagine! I was date raped, he recorded it. Handed it out at school and said it was consensual..😢 It would be like how Justin Timberlake did Britney spears, and I would have been the terrible person to the whole world. I felt sluicidal then, I quit public school and then I just couldn't deal and ran away at 15. Lived in an apartment that had no power or water, my friends uncle owned it. His grandma lived next door. Anyway. If that was on full blast all over the world, I would have definitely made sure I was dead and gone. I'm so thankful too I was not on that level of fame and known in every corner of the world. And I only after 21 years, finally figured out what drug he used, after reading ozzy osbourne book. I think it was called rsv? Something like that. It paralyzes you, your vocal chords, your whole body. You're out cold then you wake up can't open your eyes, can't move. Feels like you're dead. And then you go back out. I couldn't scream, I couldn't talk, I tried to bite him or kick him but it wasn't happening.

[@alliea8415]

10/10

[@skylarsell8258]

Omg Ashley I too have watched every single Suits adjacent show and yet have never seen a single episode of Suits. But lemme tell ya if Meghan had played Fiona in Burn Notice??? I’d be a Prince Harry Stan. I’d excuse it all.

[@celebritymemoirbookclub]

Omg truly

[@sunnyadams5842]

Suits adjacent?

[@unrefinedconsumer]

i love u guys lol

[@ginnietrinh7475]

I love u guys

[@melaniesmith7671]

LOVED this. Feels like Harry (and to some extent Meghan) were kind of destined to be like middle class LA hippies lol and weirdly ended up being born into/ thrown into the most toxic institution they could have been. Sad but I'm happy for them that they're now able to kind of live that life it suits them lol

[@ariesa9751]

Meghan was living a good life before he inserted himself into her life. I wonder if she ever regrets marrying him because she was rich, left in peace and did a job she loved before all of this.

[@hdubbs9174]

@@ariesa9751 IDK... she would never have been so close to such famous people (like Beyonce, Oprah, Tyler Perry) and I think she really wanted that. I don't believe she was aware of the cost of that fame... That being said I agree. She had basically the perfect level of fame and wealth before Harry came along.

[@Cristina_504]

@@ariesa9751 you must know nothing about how she literally hunted and inserted herself in his life . Suits was ending she was about to be a jobless 40 year old actress, she worked for a year to get him , changing her profile , finding people close to him , even wore Diana perfume on their first date . She had a vision board with her first husband about being in the royal family she wanted this , and she would still be a d lost actress if not for Harry and who nobody knew because I’ve never heard of her or suits before Harry

[@sunnyadams5842]

​​@@Cristina_504Thank you. I was trying to pick my jaw up off the floor, and was trying to formulate an intelligent response to these frighteningly ignorant comments... You did the heavy lifting and did it really well ( and here these Valley Girls -oh wait, they're in NYC... ? OK- American Quazi-Sugars- stumble over how to pronounce BALMORAL!! High AUTHORITY. LOL ) "The Royal Family is not a family. It's a business". Wow!!! Why are they even READING Spare, no less COMMENTING IN IT....? ANYHOOO!

[@Katcarp99486]

I fucking love this podcast. I just started Spare and immediately came here to see if you two had read it. I cannot wait to finish this book and come watch this video 😂

[@beccapeck5102]

I totally agree with your view that H hasn't used his platform to shine a light on the traumas of war. Princess Diana was all about shining the light on the horrors of landmines.

[@2mw_ke]

Check out his work with the Invictus Games.

[@OMGitsShrimp]

But he has… the Invictus Games. I’ve seen him support charities that supports the families of service men and women and has acknowledged the mental health struggles of service men and women.

[@sydneyc8192]

Just btw you all are so quiet or far away from the mic idk. I always have to turn my headphones ALL the way up when I listen to you all

[@beccapeck5102]

Keep in mind, he had a ghost writer. What is a ghost writer? Someone that writes for you. Hence the writing style depicted to "prove" H was "thick" is questionable. Additionally, his inability to manage public scrutiny was another reason why he needed to step out of the limelight. Tabloids like to blame Meghan. He wrote the book to say this was a longtime coming.

[@beccapeck5102]

He wanted to be on the front line because the paps weren't there. He could escape them on the front. He wanted to return to war because he could be "normal" and hide from the paps. Remember the theme of the book is why he bailed on the royal family in the end.

[@Mimi-si6qk]

Then what is he doing now? Escaping the paps? People aren’t starting biased, they can see the hypocrisy.

[@beccapeck5102]

@@Mimi-si6qkLA is awash with celebrities. People there are used to seeing celebrities. He blends in there. He wrote the book to his father and brother as they were confused why he left. The entire book was him telling them leaving was a long time coming. It was Meghans doing. He wanted to leave. The pictures the paps print now aren't new of H in LA. Rather they are old pics of him in England.

[@giigity]

Great review, ladies! I don’t find Harry to be that intelligent, but I am sure he a nice guy. As far as Meghan, I am not a fan of hers, but I do agree with a lot of your assessments about how she was treated by the press and people. On another note, I laughed out loud about how everyone randomly knew about her and the show Suits. I find that highly unlikely. 😂😂😂😂 I do believe he was messed up do to his upbringing, but other stories he shared are questionable at best. Thanks for reviewing this one!!

[@beccapeck5102]

The whole "who's the daddy" thread has always been odd to me. One look at Princess Diana's brother, you see H is a Spencer.

[@kathleen3292]

Please bring your show to Toronto, Canada

[@beccapeck5102]

He says repeatedly how afraid he is for Meghan. She was suicidal when pregnant with Archie. She couldn't get help for that. H repeatedly discusses his fear history will repeat itself with Meghan. He's afraid she may hurt herself, as is she. His fear and angst isn't about himself. It's about Meghan amd that the paps are doing to her what was done to his mother.

[@sunnyadams5842]

But they WERE NOT doing the same to Meghan.😅...the 'same' being buying into the myth that Dianna died because she was being chased by paparazzi. Well, none of that is true- Diana died because she was not wearing a seat belt. And her driver that night was, ALLEGEDLY, intoxicated. But if she had been wearing her seatbelt she would have survived. It wasn't a high speed reckless chase!! AND - further more, Meggsie has spent the last 8 years trying to create the IMPRESSION that she is being hounded by the media. She's not and never was - maybe for a day or 2 in Toronto, right after she announced her successful entrapment of a Prince- being CHASED BY PAPARAZZI. First off, there are totally different laws and practices, nowadays, to how the paps functioned back in the day. They do not hang around on street corners anymore, hoping for a photo op. Today stars need to call the paps- which Meggsie, obvi does all the time!! Those car park pap walks sure are classy. Not sure what secondly was...i'm falling asleep.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Oh - PS- The British Press did not take MM to the cleaners. SHE PLAYED THE RACE CARD. And BOT is there more of a story to this! But.....

[@beccapeck5102]

I really appreciate your take on Africa. I missed that bit. TY for the catch!

[@beccapeck5102]

The prolog tells us why. "Pa" and "Wills" repeatedly say at Grandpa's funeral they don't understand why H&M left. H explains the book details why. The book was written to Charles & William.

[@beccapeck5102]

Honestly, most 20 yos don't think things through.

[@beccapeck5102]

I understand your angst with his view if his "job" at war with "chess pieces". I agree that view is harsh. However, he states that is how he was trained. It is very true military of all countries are trained as such. That is actually where we get the racist "names" for people. It is a method military uses to otherize people. Make them none human so we are traumatized when we kill them. My father and brother were both in the military. Father 1950s and brother 1980s. They both shared the "names" they were given for respective "enemies". Is it harsh? Yes. Is it terrible? Yes. Do I agree with it? No. Is it a thing? Absolutely. H didn't invent the process. He was trained to otherwise the enemy. He said that in the book. I wasn't angry with H for his thinking as they trained him that way. I am unhappy with the system that propagates the process. They are also trained to dig deep and find the thing that angers them. Go for the hurt and angst. Why? Makes it easier for the soldier to make the kill. This is also why he stated in the initial bit on military that they were looking for the broken and wounded. Upper echelon knows its easier to convince the solders to take their angst out on the enemies. Is any of this right? No. Should we do a better job of finding diplomatic answers? For sure. For many years, I've stated if women ran things we would have far fewer wars. Women are more nurturing and do a better job with diplomacy. It's opinion that men tend to go to the fisticuffs faster than women.

[@kikkertje74]

He is born a prince and will always be a blood prince as his and miss meghan's kids are as we all know now they got there title with reason right

[@adhst]

Lads… it sounds like he’s trying to come up with ideas, it sounds like other celebrity memoirs because he didn’t write it himself; he used a ghost writer. Just like most of other celebrities writing memoirs.

[@quasar9233]

***Dir the record: The Duke and Duchess Of Sussex live in Montecito California NOT Malibu California*** Most of your analysis of the book was decent, however, I will reframe from sharing any further thoughts on your dissection/discussion of the book. 🤭

[@kimzziereenee1638]

Well said. They actually gave a good synopsis but their actual analysis was sub par and very condescending.

[@dorothycordice]

Please tell your thoughts

[@dorothycordice]

at least they got closer they use to say they were in LA.

[@sunnyadams5842]

I agree with you. Just hoping reframe was a typo n u mean REFRAIN.😂

[@quasar9233]

@@sunnyadams5842 😱, yes, I meant refrain. 😘

[@beccapeck5102]

I really LOVE how much you love Meghan. Surprised how much you seem to dislike her choice in husband.

[@ariesa9751]

Prob cuz he ruined her life. If she just continued her life having never met him. She would have a pretty good life. Rich, working in a job she loves and without the entire world hating her for her choice of husband.

[@sunnyadams5842]

​@@ariesa9751Get some FACTS!!

[@Sean-PaulNgwenya]

good review, take care.

[@elainefarmer6546]

I can tell that you guys are anti monarch.. Clearly you don’t do any research. I’d like to offer some advice. It’s ok to give a book review but you should try educating yourself on the people and topic so that you are able to give an unbiased review. To take everything that was written in that book as face value and run with it even though a lot of it has been proven to be false. Harry himself claims that a lot of things he couldn’t remember so his ghost writer filled in things. Maybe as you get older you’ll realize the importance of research. Praising someone that doesn’t take any accountability of their actions is just wrong. Right now, you are contributing to disinformation.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Bingo!! I second your emotion!! I am aghast at the arrogance. And ignorance. I am full blood MEXIT, so I certainly am not looking for "nicer". But this IS SO contributing to DISINFORMATION!! So much has been disproven. I am getting annoyed at these presenters who do NO research and don't even pronounce half the script correctly. What do they think they have to offer to anyone??.except brain damage 😂

[@zdhl30]

I guess you all don't realize how much easier finding many different viewpoints to know better... it is these days. Especially about questions about war especially as a man. It just what was expected and the only place to be is the front line especially within the military culture. Also the royals aren't allowed to speak about politics or personal opinion that is why Diana was hated by the royals. Also why do you just assume being a prince is so great...he was forced into this life and didn't want it. Also they were so sheltered.

[@missliss2581able]

I’m 45 minutes in and I’m just wondering exactly how many times you’re going to call this man dumb. It’s giving extremely catty. This is the first time I’ve come across your podcast, I don’t think it’s for me and likely won’t be back. Good luck and whatnot tho.

[@kimzziereenee1638]

Same here. They were very condescending toward Harry and HIS experiences. I was like…WTF??

[@dorothycordice]

@@kimzziereenee1638 I agree with you. Unless you have been in the service you have no idea how someone has to do to get out alive. There are young men and women coming back and killing themselves because they can't get help.

[@tendies9248]

It's a COMEDY podcast so you taking this review too seriously, you need to get out more

[@beccapeck5102]

I genuinely don't understand something. You say you don't follow the royals. You initially sound like you will honestly review the book. Yet, there are times you make fun of him.

[@ElizaLydayIsTotallyRad]

did you miss the entire 3 minute spiel in the beginning that they do not care that you disagree with them. this is a comedy podcast

[@beccapeck5102]

@@ElizaLydayIsTotallyRad they stated they weren't interested in haters. I wasn't hating with any of my replies.

[@rosalindagoss2926]

Too bad you have to use the F word so much. 😔

[@celebritymemoirbookclub]

i find this comment fucking offensive

[@daddyjeans]

This was great. Thank you for doing God's work. I really didn't want to read it, but gawwwwwwd I wanted to know what the ginge had to say.

[@glitterarmy89]

What child wouldn't want towalk behind their mother's f****** casket I'd want to there's nothing barbaric about that. brothers and sisters need to remember you're only a sibling to that person that's their child omg

[@sunnyadams5842]

If ya'all are goingto oresent tfese things- may I suggest you do a bit of prep? Like giggling over how to pronounce BALMORAL and exclaiming, "A Gap year? What's that?". Ladies ... Some of your stuff is right on, but other places...? 🥱😩🤨

[@celebritymemoirbookclub]

No we won’t!