Prince Madog

[@julieanntregeagle2594]

Thank you for this beautiful film. I am of Welch descent and find the history and land enchanting.

[@joshafer1713]

Thank you for presenting this beautiful video of Madog/Maddock/Maddox antecedents. I had always assumed that Wales was a rather wild country, rather like the Scotch Highlands back in the day. While researching my Maddox history, I discovered that my grandmother was not Scots at all but Welsh! Possibly we are descended from Madog ab Owain Gwynedd, but I have yet to discover the link.

[@user-ei3dq2dw6i]

Please don't say scotch for people of Scotland its very rude it should be the Scots

[@joshafer1713]

@@user-ei3dq2dw6i Oops! My mistake.

[@nolongerlistless]

Thank you for your efforts making this or distributing this! Diolch yn fawr!

[@robertjones-yo4ql]

Alan Wilson knows the History

[@nerysjones7333]

It is worth looking at the author Alan Wilson, who has done a lot of Welsh research in recent years. Look him up on U tube.

[@peterww3241]

Yes, Wilson said that the Madoc who sailed to America did so in AD 562 and that the twelfth-century Madoc was invented to suit the political exigencies of the Tudors.

[@desckUgah000]

What a great story teller! You could do documentaries for big companies or read audiobooks and get paid..great voice! Many legends here in the US midwest too, American King Arthur!

[@ioanstokowski1647]

Fascinating piece of history. American of Welsh descent here too. Diolch! 😊

[@CatalinaSabella]

Love this! The story and music are so moving. Amazing! I am an American DAR and also of Welsh ancestry. I'm posting this to my Facebook wall to share with my relatives and friends. I also have a theory that the Vikings integregrated into the Northeast of America back in the day.

[@lovinit203]

This was a fantastic video which I thoroughly enjoyed. As a perhaps interesting aside, my Nain's second cousin traced our family's genealogy so far back the family tree wrapped around Holyhead's town hall twice and the rumour amongst my family is that we are descendants of Madog ap Owain Gwynedd ourselves. Whether true or not I still found this a fascinating and enjoyable watch along with your video on Llywelyn ap Gruffudd which I also very much enjoyed. You have earned my subscription and I hope you'll do more videos like this this in the future. Da iawn 😁👍

[@naztubes]

Beautifully put together and somewhat comical at the end with the banjos

[@johnhayes8557]

The Mandan Tribe survived the smallpox epidemic, though the majority, tragically died. Their survivors today are a member of the 'Three Nations , and efforts are underway to offer genetic testing to them, to determine the degree of relation to people from Gwynnedd. In excavations in areas surrounding the Ohio River Valley, Welsh style crobelled structures still stand, adn metal artifacts pop up from time to time. I saw one, recognized it was a terminal toggle cast of bronze from a Brythonic sword belt. This must have been made in Wales, tin is scarce in most of North America. In Rhode Island, there also are the remakably intact remains of a Welsh Tower that was standing when the Pilgrims arrived of a style popular in the 1th and 13th centuries.This may be a story with much truth. Similar corbelled works are found in New England and southern Canada, and it is an accepted fact the St Brendan, the Gaelic Monk, visited North America hundreds of years before.

[@johnhayes8557]

For the record most of my ancestry is Gaelic, but one of my O'Neill ancestors was recorded as married to a daughter of one of the Llewellyn prince's, so I hope that earns me a seat to listen to a Cymric Bard at hearth-side

[@geobigntall3830]

I am a descendant of Madog of Whales I am a Hughes settled in Washington Maine in Mapleton

[@missytee6583]

I've recently discovered that I am a descendant (Great Grandfather MANY times removed) so THANK you for posting this

[@kennethbranscum6891]

Missy Tee Hi Missy My name is Kenneth Branscum i am descended from Maddog too Im on facebook look me up

[@FriedPickles2023]

Madog was my 21st great grandfather.

[@doesthisfacemakemelooklike535]

My 23rd great uncle!

[@geobigntall3830]

Well then we are related I am Hughes wow

[@geobigntall3830]

I am a descendant of John Hughes then Richard then Benjamin then Sam Nutter Hughes and my grampy was Enoch Ripley Hughes

[@geobigntall3830]

They entered through Manhattan

[@2ruamerican]

so beautiful! we love yall and thanks

[@dannywright1513]

My favorite video on youtube

[@pattenpatti]

Just amazing. Thank you for sharing this with us..

[@alunrees313]

I thought it was Madoc Morfan brother of Arthur ap Meirig 560 ad

[@johnhayes8557]

That's the rub, there were several named Madoc/Madog from the 6tb century CE to end of 12th century CE who may have been the one, but having seen many of the sites, I have no doubt that a Madoc was in North America by the 13th century CE. Cymry navigators had access to vessels even more seaworthy than St Brendan, The sites hopefully will be scientifically studied, and evidence tested. If surviving Mandan people will get genomic and genetically tests that will help, as well.

[@alunrees313]

John Hayes have you heard of the Yarmouth bay stone that was found in Nova Scotia , with ancient coelbren writing on it , it reads, close by taking off you are the ruler in a sack the warrior , this is a reference to Arthwyr, Arthur, the experts haven’t a clue what it is , Madoc ap Meirig was the brother of Arthur

[@johnhayes8557]

@@alunrees313 I have not, but will research, thanks.

[@rakovsky3901]

The Madoc story is interesting - What exactly were the earleist written sources on it? I read in WIkipedia about a 15th century poem saying that Madoc preferred the high seas (Atlantic) to living at home, but it didn't explain exactly what he did in America. I also saw 16th or 17th century post-Columbus stories about Madoc visiting America, but who knows whether they were made up based on Columbus' findings or if they actually had special information about Madoc's 12th century journey?

[@ritapoe4652]

Alan Wilson, 60 years research, places King Author ll in Kentuckyana 540 AD, Madog was his brother and had already traveled to America back to Wales. When a comet, the dark ages, hit King Author ll and 7000 ships sailed to the Ohio Kentucky area.

[@rakovsky3901]

7000 ships? @@ritapoe4652

[@dublinpiper]

Thank you for this interesting video, and showcasing some of those lovely Welsh villages, makes me want to visit them! Can anyone tell me the name of the tune at the very beginning? I think its Irish?

[@1fanger888]

The Wals were Welsh miners who worked in the upper part of the Great Lakes region and traded with Norse traders with copper ingots they smelted for other finished goods. The played out mines are still there. No evidence of where the copper ended up is known, but it is said that Joseph of Arimathaea, a Nobilis de Curio, and Jesus Christ`s uncle, dealt with the Romans in the metals industry, may have come to North America. So, it may be that North American copper was used in the bronze that the Romans used.

[@davepowell7168]

Fascinating story but the music was so distracting I had to cut out sound. The waterfall looked a complex feature.

[@chrisd8598]

Well presented.

[@suzannakoizumi8605]

Perhaps two Prince Modocs came to America. Good evidence for one in late 500s AD.

[@dave_hoops]

Working together we may find something approaching the truth 👍.. diolch am dy fid mate

[@ChristChickAutistic]

He was probably not heard from again because there's reason to think that the ten ships were destroyed in a storm, most likely a hurricane. You see, hurricanes are quite common to come in the Gulf of Mexico. I live in Mississippi, next door to Alabama, and Mobile Bay is a prime spot for hurricanes to hit. I've been doing a study of Prince Madog and the relationship to the Mandans for years, and there's plenty of evidence to support the theory that the lost colonists from Wales did not die, but they assimilated into the native culture here. Besides George Caitlin and William Clark, many legends abound in the Choctaw and Cherokee nations about the "white Indians". I would welcome any and all information about this subject, as I know a lot more about the Mandan nation than Prince Madog.

[@karenhart2968]

Yes, I've done some research on this because Madoc is an ancestor of my fathers'. The legend says that Madoc and his brother were of giant stature, 7 to 8ft tall. Madoc sailed to America in 1077 and later returned to Wales for more colonists and the 10 ships that disappeared, never to be seen again, by the Welsh. The legend goes on to say that when they landed in America, they were assimilated by what is now known as the Mandan, red haired, blue eyed indians. Many argue that this is all legend, but with much of the history we were taught, proven to be false, more evidence is being found that proves this is true.

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

Karen Hart i thought Madoc set sail for new lands after the comet of 562ad? This is 6th century history not 11th century, no?

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

Karen Hart perhaps there was another voyage around 1077 - it’s not long after the Norman invasion of England 1066! So could be more than one Madoc, just like there could be multiple Arthurs!

[@ChristChickAutistic]

@@karenhart2968 thank you, sorry it took me so long to respond. Yes, in the Caitlin book in the Mandan section that very thing was talked about. Caitlin was amazed at the blonde and red hair and the blue, green, and gray eyes of the Mandan people. I have his book, Letters and Notes on the North American Indian, it's full of real, factual information about the Mandan people and many other First Nations people.

[@safeysmith6720]

There is a town in Ontario named Madoc, after this Prince... but I seriously doubt this “Madoc” was ever anywhere near there, if he existed at all

[@user-sl5bh8kr8h]

MADOC is King Arthur's brother and he did travel to America? Research ALAN WILSON

[@safeysmith6720]

@@user-sl5bh8kr8h Ok perhaps he did, I don’t know about that. But I’m saying I doubt he ever went to Madoc, Ontario. Lol

[@user-sl5bh8kr8h]

@@safeysmith6720 if you have time ,go on Google maps and have a look at the area for burial mounds? Look for limestone block as that are placed on top of each other? Geopolymer limestone blocks ( man made )👍

[@dave_hoops]

The North has an amazing history Huw, and it may be Camlan etc the N was fighting for the old religion .. but Ross discussed this over a series of vids with Lawrence the Druid, if you dont mind me saying. There are also vids about the 'Starmaps' up North too

[@sherrytravis4674]

Looks like Tn/Ala

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

Dylai'r gyfres hon o fideos fod ar deledu. Gwych, Huw.

[@RolandWieffering1]

@Huw Davies - I've been fascinated by the story of prince Madog since I heard of the find of the brass armor in America. But as I perceived it Madog wasn't a christian, upon these skeleton's armor were three Welsh words "budro fudron christnogion". Now, I'm not Welsh (I'm Dutch) but as I understand it means something like "dirty filthy christians".That doesn't sound christian to me. Maybe his leave had also something to do with what we now call religious freedom. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Fascinating stuff, Huw. Thanks for uploading.

[@SimulationEvolve]

I've never heard of those words being inscribed on any armour, I have heard of brass armour being found on skeletons though although Its hard to tell the if its or Welsh origin especially when I've heard that Indian tribes claimed there were people called Welsh because Welsh is an English word given to us by the Saxons invaders, Madog and his men would have referred to themselves as Cymraeg. I'm not saying its impossible but Wales in this time period was heavily Christian. Its possible that a lot of these stories were made up to gain a claim to America especially seeing how many of the founders of North America were Welsh or had Welsh ancestry.

[@daikayll1897]

Great point about Cymraeg instead of Welsh ! Welsh means " foreigner , as you know. Cymru is more likely but I beleive Madoc got there. Columbus was a twat though !

[@wendygarbhe-fleming2626]

Thank you

[@TheBankai1407]

Good work Huw, a brother from Morgannwg thanks you.

[@tvall3980]

Welcom

[@americanwhitesheep6876]

My grandmother was a owen

[@muddgeeser]

the powells were from glemorgan castle madoc is 42 miles north of cardiff google it. no where near the north,,madoc was king arther,s brother.

[@caino0567]

Can one visit the castle at the star of this video? I was in Betws Y Coed last month but was unaware of the history.

[@wmffre]

The castle is at Dolwyddelan and you can visit.

[@veronicaroach3667]

@@wmffre I visited that castle many years ago with my 4 kids around 1972 i believe- it had not got floors in at the time or steps up to the door, and no door ! We stepped into the bottom of the tower & looked up at the windows of the floors above - I was looking around with interest when my eldest son about 8 yrs old at the time suddenly tugged at my sleeve & said in a whisper "Mum did you see the man over there ?" - looked around & saw no-one - he insisted that he had seen somebody there - nobody was there with us or anybody else around at the time - so I got the kids & myself out of there really fast, we ran down the hilly area back to our car & hightailed it out of there. He still insists, now at 59 yrs old that he did see a man in that ruin ! Shiver ! Serious story, not a joke !

[@teiloturner2760]

@@veronicaroach3667 love the ghost stories. As a boy I swear I saw one a couple times. I do keep in mind though that I was also absolutely petrified of them. What about you lot? What did the others say ...

[@MonikaEscobar1965]

Madawg was from Glamorgan not from Gwynedd. He was the brother of King Arthur, yes, son of King Meurig.

[@daikayll1897]

Exactly. An unreported history of the ancient Britons. Now the Welsh. King Arthur ll WAS real. Reclaim our true history and heritage. Wilson and Blackett know !

[@johnhayes8557]

How do you gloss Meurig into Brythonic? It's the same in Gaelic, and linguists insist it was an imported Norman name...

[@MonikaEscobar1965]

@@johnhayes8557 Haha, never! Mouric - Meirig - Meurig - Maurice - Morris (modern).

[@Khumry]

thought it was madoc until he went to the america's and become madog

[@kevinmoore.7426]

The first pictures look like NM

[@PeterShieldsukcatstripey]

Bluebell wood.

[@craigmoyle2924]

Madoc was from glamorgan not gwynedd he was a cousin of king arthur the second the king of Glamorgan and gwent the son of king meurig (uther pendragon ) he was born and died in the sixth century don't believe this north Wales and twelfth century lie

[@bujin1977]

As we all know, names can only ever be used once.

[@2ruamerican]

tell me about what you know, i seem to be from them , yes what you say fits my tree

[@Blackcat-fw4tl]

@@2ruamerican The real king Arthur. There were two about 200 years apart. Books and videos by Wilson and Blackett. Will explain most of it to you. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@SonsoftheEagle]

​@@Blackcat-fw4tlKing Arthur? 😂😂😂

[@Blackcat-fw4tl]

@@SonsoftheEagle yes. Even sailed to America. He was killed by native Americans. Brought back to south Wales and buried there. Israelites = white Europeans. We are there descendants. Kymri /cymru. Hidden history. 👍

[@geobigntall3830]

I am a descendant of Lord Humphrey Hughes 14th Barron of Cymer esquire of gwerclas

[@travisedwards5451]

We are related. Take the vowels out my name and it spells Twdwrds.

[@wilowen8450]

Da iawn a diddorol uffernol

[@koreyleigh2733]

Earlier LEGEND Has it that Ambrose Discovered The America's???. I Can't Remember Where I Read it. CAN ANYONE ENLIGHTEN ME???.

[@stephencartwright4063]

Prince Madog's life has been found in Kentucky, America, in the 6th century ad. All this fancy music and trickling music hides a hidden history. Please research!!!!

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

Lol that’s Prince Madoc- with a C - I made the same mistake - we’re half a millennium out haha!

[@manifestingbeautifullife2187]

I will, now that I just found out today!!😮

[@richfan10]

Who was like, the South Wales prince(s) at the time?

[@ineedabetterusername7424]

There was a bunch of infighting in Southern Wales -- Gwynedd in the north, and even Powys in the middle, were much more defined by a centralized Welsh identity. After the Norman invasion of England in 1066, Norman incursions into the South -- especially Brychenniog and Deheubarth-- seriously hampered the abilities of the southern Welsh to form a cohesive nation. Not to mention -- half the kings in the south claimed equal descent from the line of Merfyn, so there wasn't really one "Prince of South Wales" -- the ruling "Princes of Wales" usually came from the North and only had limited success in uniting the South...

[@richfan10]

@@ineedabetterusername7424 ah that's interesting - do you think the Marcher Lords also meddled in any sort of potential South Welsh identity?

[@tvall3980]

Hi

[@Tuxedo_YT-mn2mt]

my family says we are related to rhordi mawr is that a king or something

[@bujin1977]

Rhodri Mawr, born in 820 and King of Gwynedd from 844 until 878.

[@gwyllt5633]

he was more than king of Gwynedd he was high king of all wales

[@americanwhitesheep6876]

who named it Ommerike ?

[@eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288]

Da iawn Huw, diolch yn fawr.

[@dave_hoops]

BRITAIN'S HIDDEN HISTORY ROSS CHANNEL.. HOLY KINGDOM BY A.GILBERT

[@2ruamerican]

hes in my family tree, had my dna done looking for family

[@caino0567]

Bullshit.

[@ainevethe6103]

Do u have your tree on wiki tree by chance? He is also in mine on that site.

[@daikayll1897]

Caino 05 , your not english are you ?

[@2ruamerican]

@@ainevethe6103 no just ancestry,

[@2ruamerican]

@@daikayll1897 part yes .russian as well. very mixed

[@nerysjones7333]

Mae gennyf gof, fod Elizabeth y cyntaf wedi defnyddio y wybodaeth yma, i ddangos i'r Sbaenwyr mai Prydeinwr oedd wedi taro ar America gyntaf ac nid Columbus.

[@muddgeeser]

This is all B S and you know it I am a Powell

[@dave_hoops]

👍

[@chrishughes5049]

The Mandan tribe lived along the upper Missouri river, not Alabama. I find that Irish and Welsh history plays fast and loose with the facts, that some or all or none of Western Europes people over a stretch of a thousand years might have stumbled on the america's at some time isn't beyond the realm of possibility, but there is no physical evidence of it and even less evidence that a Welch prince did so. Although there is a mention of a Prince Madoc from the 7th century but only that, a mention. Pure fantasy. Maybe political fantasy?

[@janiap5235]

DIOLCH YN FAWR IAWN AM YR HYN RYDYM YN weld pob dydd yma yn gwynedd. LWCUS bod ein iaith yn dal yma o hud.

[@nerysjones7333]

Diolch am y wybodaeth

[@pauloldman804]

Annoying Music. not necessary.

[@nolongerlistless]

Paul Oldman Not necessary perhaps, but more particularly I’d like to know whether the first melody is authentically Welsh, because to me it sounds very Irish... not that I am any sort of expert on Welsh music of the distant past. I don’t mind intermittent music, or it being used for panning shots and to demarcate sections of the tale, as long as it is muted, as happens occasionally...