Lelouch's Checkmate (English Dub)

[@Overlord69]

"Sorry Diethard, you're just not worth wasting my scholarship on."

[@anonnimoose7987]

... fuck. *dies*

[@timspeller4084]

*OK D-Tard*

[@LelouchOnTwi]

Diethard: oh cmon...*dies*

[@hexmaster23]

While Diethard is definitely an extremely competent and resourceful intelligence officer and basically ran the Black Knights intelligence and public relations operations by himself. He is also a vulture at heart and would ditch his current sponsor in a heartbeat if there is a chance of a greater story.

[@k125catu5]

@@hexmaster23 youre right, I always thought that Diethard will be loyal until the end, but he was nothing but a backstabbing opportunist.

[@Secret-Side-5]

Thing i love about this scene that people seem to get wrong, Lelouch isn't predicting Schneizel's responses, he's just monologuing while leaving large gaps between his sentences to make it look like he's waiting for a response

[@Kuzamer]

Lelouch is such a genius 😂

[@JimmyCasket84]

well at 0:47 it seems like hes responding to Schneizel

[@Guile1117]

Yes and no, he knows his brother very well so he predicated his thoughts well

[@zeroshw7]

"What right have you to deny my existence? You have none." So damn epic.. All hail Lelouch

[@XXTheMoleXX]

Though Lelouch kills hundreds of people himself.

[@omadselc]

+XXTheMoleXX a wise man once said... they started it

[@darktronics9901]

Brazen Eli the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed

[@anonnimoose7987]

Lol Diethart's existence is just riding on someone's coattails

[@WorldPancake]

(spoilers) Did anyone else realize that lelouch geassed Schneizel to serve zero, so that it'll have him still obey zero after lelouche's death?

[@kurosakikun96]

Zero is an idea, not necessarily a single person, basically if anyone follows the ideals of Zero, Schneizel must follow them

[@WorldPancake]

right, thats what I was saying

[@killmypoptart]

kurosakikun96 V for vendetta

[@kurosakikun96]

max masterson havent seen the movie, so I dont follow

[@killmypoptart]

V for vendetta has a lot in common with code geass

[@ZetaGundam336]

"I shall give you the gift of the words...you shall serve zero" FUCKING AWSOME AND THIS ENGLISH DUB IS GREAT

[@EndlessMalice]

"What right do you have to deny my existence, you have none" Lelouch's burns be cutting deep

[@iamthe5th]

+Invisible Black Gonna need a sensu for that one. XD

[@ZetaGundam336]

Invisible Black i mean he is lelouch after all thats his thing lol

[@EndlessMalice]

+Charles Harris oh yeah thats lelouche alright

[@mikehatten5738]

Actually listening to this speech again I see that lelouchs dialogue is so vague that it's actually genius on the creators/writers part. It allows the audience(us) to believe that it could be done but at the same time still show the brilliance of lelouch. Bravo this really is the best anime ever made.

[@randysavage2585]

Mike Hatten Some people are to damn stubborn to realize this

[@thespianuzumaki5452]

Exactly, it's genius

[@SalinaMoonfall]

Indeed, some analysis of it and his previous use of this trick point out at about the mid point of the conversation he shifts topics, derailing the thread of discussion and resetting it. Because while he can predict the responses it's only up to a certain point, so he controls the topic and keeps his responses vague enough but in line with his target so as to hold their attention. In both cases his target having one key quality that lets this trick work....ego, both Schneizel and Mao had the ego and were driven to argue to prove themselves right which was the bait to the trap of getting them to argue with a recording.

[@sylessyl]

it is true but in my perspective the dumb thing about it was not the Lelouch's dialogue but the gaps between the speeches. How could he possibly guessed that?

[@thespianuzumaki5452]

@TOMICHAEL CASSANOVA Lmao, ok

[@ravenraqz9220]

lelouch be like: you may have outsmarted me but i outsmarted your outsmarting.

[@finris1]

Now that they know our plan, they will plan around that the plan. And we will in turn plan around the plan that they are planning around that plan.

[@Aiden-MGR]

@@finris1 Your brilliance knows no bounds!

[@r4ptur3B]

Schneizel’s english VA did an amazing job! His delivery and tone sound so characteristic of Schneizel: placid and gentle, yet cold, calculating and utterly unfeeling at the same time. Bravo!

[@raniamich24]

I'm a few years too late but that would be the amazing Troy Baker! He's in a tone of videogames! He's super talented!

[@gorrthePatrickBateman]

Well it's f**king troy baker, you know......

[@kohsukiuchiyan833]

Almighty Push

[@lelouchvibritannia7108]

Are you stell alive?

[@imnotmakingvideosrry]

notice how lelouch ordered him to serve zero and not himself

[@jamaicandondada9024]

+imnotmakingvideosrry Yes, for the Requiem of Zero

[@greenjoey6239]

Iustin Traista its also irony because his enemy was Zero the whole time before Lelouch's rein and now he is serving Zero

[@lagunaseca3806]

imnotmakingvideosrry its because he knows the identity of zero.. zero = lelouch.. means to follow zero's orders is to follow lelouch's orders. What im actually wonderin if ever Schniezel saw Suzaku's face while wearing the zero costume, will he still follow zero/suzaku commands?

[@Mikito456]

@@lagunaseca3806 he followed Lelouch because he knew him as Zero and if he saw Suzaku's face he'd be forced to do the same

[@lelouchvibritannia9189]

That’s entirely the point. This was the making of the Zero Requiem. The world needed Zero, not Lelouch. Schenziel was the ultimate threat to peace. Instead of killing him, Lelouch made him serve Zero, knowing that Suzaku would be Zero.

[@DO9000J]

Damn that dual Geass looks sexy.

[@Neftimoon]

Hot and a little scary

[@SimoDahlia]

Jade Miller But Akashi’s eyes are even better!

[@fbi1819]

@@SimoDahlia who tf is akashi

[@gba1525]

@Imperial Watch I think hes talking about rakshata. Or the collective consciousness thing when lelouch commands it to stop.

[@nicolaporcelli7573]

@@fbi1819 the main antagonist of "Kuroko no Basket"

[@oneslapmann4434]

"Schnizel...you shall fucking SERVE ZERO. " God, Lelouch is the fucking man...!

[@charlech]

he didnt say fucking

[@kingotaku6273]

he should've

[@damienloxely4140]

Am I the only one to consider that in these situations (Mao and Schneizel) that Lelouch's recordings only play when the other speaker has finished with their reply. Cause I've seen comments about Lelouch timing the responses and THAT is pretty ridiculous, but Lelouch programming his recording to only play after Mao/Schneizel have responded makes perfect sense to me.

[@chaztikov]

+Damien Loxely I think his conversation with Scheizel was intentionally vague. Its sole purpose was to present general points building up to a statement that he knew would seem contradictory to Schneizel. Regarding his timing, you have to consider Lelouch's prior experience with Schneizel. He was accustomed to the speed of Schneizel's moves, as well as defeat at the hands of his older sibling. To apply this to the present conversation, you only need to assume that the two have also had philosophical discussions in the past with the purpose of justifying their positions. Hence, Lelouch's experience--a deep understanding of Schneizel's stagnant philosophy that has been reinforced by being a member of the Royal Family for his entire life--coupled with Schneizel's willingness to call a draw, even at the cost of his own life, together assure Lelouch's feint will succeed. The former permits Lelouch to have foreknowledge of the course of the conversation, and the latter ensures Schneizel's false conviction that the game is over.

[@damienloxely4140]

I understand that it was deliberately vague (in order to give Lelouch time to get to him). But he could not determine the exact length of Schneizel (and Mao's) responses. Hence he programmed his recordings to only play after the former had finished talking.

[@nevanmasterson46]

If you look at the recording made for Mao, he does cut mao off once and he is also left not replying for a good 5 seconds or so. I think the conversation with Lelouch and Schneizel is more perfectly timed either because lelouch has prior experience, or because he programmed it do so as aforementioned.

[@kristen1684]

Lol you probably don’t have siblings, siblings know siblings incredibly well to do sth like this

[@n543576]

Honestly im glad Lelouch won. Lelouch stood for change and progress, Schneizel stood for stagnation and order. Order without change leads to complacency, I might disagree with Lelouch's reasons for why he decided to rebel and what was sacrificed on the way to complete it successfully, but I think he really was a symbol needed to fight against people like Schneizel and the King.

[@TheBloodx95]

I'll be honest I'm quite dissapointed of Diethard, I kind of liked since Zero first appearance. But at the end he just chickened out I really wasn't expecting that from him plus he had such a pitiful death, damn it.

[@Colp2]

+Chris W Well he kinda deserved it... he spent the entire anime flopping between sides, so he'd be at the "most interesting" one, basically. He reveled in war, loving chaos for the sake of chaos, cherishing death as long as it created a story for him to spin into one of his little productions. I mean that's also the reason Lelouch despises him, especially by the end.

[@eshswam]

Colp2 the thing about dietard is that he decided to join the side he felt will win...but lelouch won so...proved him wrong!

[@boxinglearner1996]

Chris i liked diethard too, but then again i liked almost all the code geass characters even Mao and suzuku

[@elijahbrown5089]

Chris Cough* lelouch ain't dead faked his death cough* season 3 coming soon cough* cough*

[@killerdude93]

Flying Horseman season 3 is going to be based off the new movies, these movies are slightly different from the original story which means its a bit of a retelling. there was a 2008 interview from the creator confirming he died

[@EpsilonBiatch]

I just love the "Sorry ___tard" jokes :')

[@centrist9222]

I remember you.

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

"What right have you to deny my existence? You have none" ggwp

[@whammycheng3758]

Unlike Lelouch, what I never seen Schneizel do was pilot his own Knightmare frame, which was Schneizel's mistake since Lelouch wanted him alive and the little brother was able to avoid accidentally killing Schneizel.

[@superfaceparm]

I love the fact that they include Mao in the little flashback sequence

[@FPSKillstreak]

"However Nunally is the one who has the FLEIJA control switch." DENIED!

[@9ixventity]

Loki-we have a hulk Lelouch-we have a orange boi

[@ReaLifeHDchannel]

S1E05 Jeremiah: What the hell is Orange? S2E18 Jeremiah: Orange you say? That is the name of my loyalty!

[@artisdead4031]

This anime is legendary.

[@doodelay]

"What right have you to deny my existence, you have none" Diethard's expression once Lelouch said that he wasn't worth his geass is just painful lol

[@extracold444]

Lesson to be learned do not answer Lelouch's questions.

[@theburntshadow]

Of all the characters, Diethard was the one who surprised me the most. During the first four episodes, he seemed like a moral character who didn't like how Britannia did things. Later on, he only wanted to see the kind of world he Zero would make. He then showed fanatic loyalty to Zero, but after his identity was exposed, he turned on Zero and sided with Schnizel.

[@TheAntiYuu]

Everyone : "Did you all notice he said *Zero* and not *me*?" Me: "Did you all see Deithard, one of Zero's most ecstatic followers, die?"

[@sumedhparalikar5236]

Your willingness to let yourself be killed is what led you to defeat. Marvelous dialogues.

[@swaggazillasam3461]

I hated schneizel right from his introduction I was so happy when this happened it was so awesome all hail lelouch

[@magda1740]

swaggazilla sam whaaat i loved Schneizel since I saw him in first intro. i mean he was soo hot XD and his charscter was pretty cool too, until FLEYA

[@zeaferjones1404]

I like Schneizel's character because I didn't know what to think of him when he first showed up. He was so polite and actually seemed like he cared about people. However Cornelia, Lelouch and Charles all hinted that they were afraid of Schneizel which struck me odd because he seemed so nice.

[@newsystembad]

@@zeaferjones1404 Schneizel's politeness feels like the kind of mask that Lelouch and Charles talked about. He's nice because it's what's expected of him, to be the magnanimous prince. But underneath that, there's nothing. He's hollow, with no wants or ambitions of his own other than to keep everything going just as it always had.

[@Gabumi]

I hate lelouch for just killing and not taking the right way to put a stop to it and schneizel was the real good guy

[@JohnSmith-hk1fz]

cartman bra Both of them killed in order to make the world a better place. However, only Lelouch could figure out a way to unite the entire world without an aftermath of constant tyranny

[@ressurect]

Honestly, I really thought that by the end Diethard was just pretending to gain information, and I thought he was the most loyal of the black knights, but ...

[@lolabee1825]

*Lelouch in a dangerous situation.* I HAVE A QUESTION

[@SchyllingWhistle]

I like how Lelouch thinks of Rolo even after all of this. It shows that after everything, a part of him still cared about Rolo.

[@thethinker7273]

1:45 "ITS A TRAP!" quote from star wars

[@n00d13sandr1c3]

I like how they remembered to add the little detail of Lelouch closing his eyes while he was talking to Diethard so he wouldn't accidentally geass him.

[@gravatea8681]

You know what I wanna know? What happens if an eye with permanent geass gets transplanted. Can they even use it? Will it ever evolve? Would it even be the same power? And what if it was encompassing both eyes? Would either of them have the power afterwards? Does it devolve to one eye? Can they use it on each other?

[@michaeledmunds1767]

Gravatea I think the power just transmits through the eye, not actually originating from it.

[@jhonathanroberts7168]

I can explain it to you, but it would be somewhat long. If you want to know despite that please reply and I will do my best to explain it. （＾ν＾）

[@genharmer9380]

jhonathan Roberts get to work then

[@cerberus3285]

Its a supernatural power mostlikely in the brain as seen through the glimpses when he first got the geass and is transmitted through his eye(s) like the other dude said

[@SimoDahlia]

This is not Naruto.

[@Goulias7]

Lelouch is superior than Schneizel cause he was ready to put his life on the line and die for his ideals and his dreams contrary to Schneizel that he would sacrifice everyone except of himself to accomplisth a world peace.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Actually, Schneizel was willing to die, but only because he had a nihilistic view of life and human existence as a pointless struggle. He was a pawn to his own will whereas Lelouch was a king willing to march across the battlefield with his own units. So in other words, they were both willing to die but for very different reasons.

[@eleosparakhaous]

tiakpark Schneizel does everything he does for the sake of his pride, so that he might be worth more than anyone else; he would rather die than lose (although, of course, he would let everyone else die in his stead if he had nothing to lose from it; he would even abandon Nunnally). He values himself most, and seeks to solve the world's problems the way they're contained now: through the fear of the law (much like Light from Death Note, which is made all the more evident by the fact that people began to commit crimes against each other again when they no longer had any punishment to fear). He would choose to give people what they want without honestly giving a damn about their well-being, or whether or not the people he would govern even care about each other. Lelouch, on the other hand, wants a world in which people would choose be kind to each other *because they desire what's best for them.* And, in order to accomplish that, he has to be the villain.

[@Tiiipico123]

Truly Deceptive Which is what makes Lelouch so much badass/unique. :)

[@anothertime1631]

What other options did Schneizel have except committing suicide and abandoning the ship? He knew about Geass so he was aware that if Lelouch and Suzaku managed to get inside, then he was defeated.

[@zeaferjones1404]

Schneizel thought Lelouch would go to Nunally first and that they could trap them inside and leave in an escape pod.

[@TheAdorkableRJ]

Some may complain that this was just Lelouch repeating the same trick he played on Mao, but I don't mind. Like Lelouch said back then, Mao's thoughts were simple. It was easy to predict and script convincing prerecorded responses to him. Schneizel was not only much smarter than Mao, but the one opponent our brilliant Lelouch could never beat at chess. Successfully pulling off this trick against HIM is an impressive achievement.

[@Amora_where]

Epic, lelouch you genius :D

[@littlewitchling535]

2:55 i thought Lelouch said "sorry ret4rd"

[@safado441]

For me it was a final and appropriate for the type of him and eventually he ended up helping to create peace that both queria.Justiça poetic.

[@Samconery]

That was a fucking recording and lelouche perfectly imagined what shneizel would say and how much time he would take to say. Fucking badass nerd

[@safado441]

Indeed, the geass was important but the smart way to account and uses it a lot.

[@Futurestarra]

Being able to predict thoughts ahead of time accurately is something only someone as epic as Lulu can do.

[@callahaine100]

Wow I never thought Schneizel had a gun! Same surprise with Charles in episode 15!

[@studyroomhk2868]

Lelouch is one of the few characters fight with brain more than might

[@meghanav3450]

He diet hard...

[@TresBS1]

Don't you just love how Top Comments that are thoughtful and spawn good debates get replaced with comments that are nothing but some odd humor.

[@sealswim6554]

What you thought you heard: "Sorry Diethard, you're just not worth wasting my geass on" What you actually heard: "Sorry D-Tard, you're just not worth wasting my geass on"

[@MLPflutterguy]

from the beginning to present day all i can hear is D-tard

[@HotPepperLala]

Then you actually imagine you can maintain world in a perpetual state of now, but life without change can be called anything except life. It's nothing more than experience. "But link those together and they become knowledge right?"

[@doomdragon103]

I just noticed lelouch didn't kill Dietard further reinforcing my point

[@StellaStarfall]

That is some Light Yagami "Super Planning" bullshit right 'dere.

[@kristen1684]

uhm no offense but he can’t compare to lel ouch lol

[@JMBAD_art]

If you don't mind, I'm going to copy and paste this paragraph into a Word document so I can feed this bit of brilliance to other trolls on the web. You are magnificent, stranger-on-the-internet.

[@TrazynTI]

The best version of, your next line will be"..."

[@safado441]

Actually, Lelouch has an incredible ability to predict dialogs inteiros.Ele used the same trick on Kallen in episode 03 of R1 to deceive her about his identity.

[@Razgriz_01]

we need people like you all over the internet

[@azaznator]

Because he wanted to record the rise of the greatest leader ever, a revolutionary visionary. Upon learning that Zero's success was all due to the Geass, he decided to say, HAX, and switched over to Schneizel.

[@ReozShincie]

Lelouch wins becuase he keeps his word "Those who shoot are those who are prepared to be shot"

[@GoldenGyroBalls]

Schneizel got what was coming to him as far as I'm concerned.

[@safado441]

Right not to mention that Lelouch had friends while Light only came to have an affinity for L and yet did not hesitate to kill him at the time

[@frosttheweavile461]

This is one comment section on KZbin I actually like. Code Geass really made people think.

[@MayzeSigSzalay]

I love the caressing cadence JYB uses for Lelouch...it really comes through on Audio episodes.

[@covfefe95]

"But the future may prove to be worse than the present." It is true it could be but life has to move on and the future is where we move from the past

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Leouch is the only fictional character I've seen that can be called what Nietzsche considered the Overman

[@kohsukiuchiyan833]

I just saw schneizel's English voice actor also voiced pain in naruto ...I couldn't stand to hear his voice even though I haven't yet reached that arc.

[@kinglouis1993]

@Momentum139 Lelouch planned on overthrowing britania the almost the exact same way he had done throughout this series just without the use of geass. His geass power just simply really sped up his process because although his geass play a key part in everything his intellect and cunning were the two biggest elements

[@TresBS1]

@catsheri1 I look at as Schneizel was willing to die at any moment for his cause which can make you reckless. Lelouch decided to die for his cause when it would benefit his goal. Both were willing to die, it's just that Lelouch went about it in a way that fit into his plans.

[@PhirenFayt]

this show makes people rethink chess

[@VerkatosEnsei]

One of the most epic checkmates in the universe, thine name is Lelouch vi Britannia.

[@TheCpeknight]

I loved this scene so much it is truly checkmate

[@Dranguinidae_Opalux]

See now this dub isn't bad, seems like a lot of older anime's dubs were a little more palatable. I still prefer to watch it in japanese though. Such a good anime in any case, I was so hyped watching this scene

[@_Seru_]

This is one of the very few good dubs. Code Geass and Death Note are the only anime I've seen worth watching both subbed and dubbed.

[@Dranguinidae_Opalux]

@@_Seru_ I feel like it might just be connected to direction, dub these days sounds like its trying to be all anime-y, where this sounds a touch more like actual people talking

[@innegativeion]

"That's a matter of opinion"

[@keanne0425]

what right have u to deny my existance?? u have none.. -lelouch never mess with our emperor,,

[@felisildaraphaeljustink.5361]

Only when we have the power to mutually destroy ourselves in a matter of seconds have we gained a fragile peace

[@CrashB111]

@Kashlikaro I think the intention was more literal though and was only meant to extend to whoever the current Zero was since Diethard's view of Zero was only his opinion of what he was. Besides Scheinzel will probably die of old age before Suzaku does.

[@Dendarang]

the things that lead to frequent editors' notes in animes and mangas. That is, of course, bonus to those who speak Japanese but it can and does change the experience of the series. Then there are tropes. common plot or character or story elements, not necessarily cliches but elements that are common, which differ greatly between Japan and US, or the west. One of the big reasons why that is relevant is because of voice of acting for different characters, which is typically one of the biggest

[@yamisean3298]

He did this to Mao as well

[@ArmanCortez1]

I found that i prefer whatever voice i hear first be it English or Japanese. I saw Code Geass in English first so i thought that was best. But i saw Gundam 00 in Japanese first so i preferred the sub in there. Then there are some anime that i seem to enjoy in both languages such as Fairy Tail. But then I realized that i actually prefer the voice that looks like it fit's the character in my mind no matter the language so if the character sounds like I imagine, i like it. So I think you are right!

[@MADBD619]

Mini-boss defeated.

[@synecdoche8783]

you know everytime he puts his hands over his eyes, he puts on contact lenses how does he do it so damn fast, and he doesn't even clean them

[@javiluna5316]

He didnt need 2 after he got both his geass eyes it restarted the cycle which is why they arent permanent

[@wongpentelglobal]

I don't know why his brother is so suicidal should expand on his philosophy

[@mrbubbles6468]

Because if he wasn’t just randomly like that without any build up Lelouch would lose instantly,

[@Smokingmeow]

schnitzel is handsome ngl

[@TheMarinesis]

@megadisneyfan2 no.. the other guy that is there with him... in 2:43 , his name is kanon and he is Prince Schneizel's right hand man...

[@acheeseygamer9727]

so excited for R3

[@StrickenSteven]

lol that was so fvcked, but that's what he gets for defying emperor lelouch

[@nintenster]

finally, someone who has taken my thoughts and projected them into words!

[@TresBS1]

@Witness2TheWade Exactly. Lelouch decided to put the goal above himself, while light did the opposite.

[@safado441]

I agree 100%. Now the traitor Ohgi had also taken this I would have a party with champagne for a long time

[@rectodrn]

Look at how the guard's arms go up when dietard shoots him

[@safado441]

The betrayal irks me in just so many ways, because there are dozens of things they do wrong and we never see anything done about it. If anything, Xingke's later attitude suggests an "oh, so that's how it is, then we're cool" reaction.I would have at least expected Xingke, who is not as attached to Japan as they are, to blow a damn gasket for their completely inappropriate decision to make a deal with the enemy without consulting him or the Supreme Council Chairwoman first.

[@GreatFox42]

THANK YOU.

[@whatever9990]

That, my friends, is what is call a Jedi Mindtrick

[@darealliljable]

oddly enough I kind of agree with sneizel he makes good points about how in futurespect its always down hill over and over when people are givin too much power individually. Its an odd realization that no matter the individualistic emotion the inevitability of this reality is such.The rationale exceedes the ideal it seems. Hmm.

[@formeraxe117]

+darealliljable Every way has its problems. That is the nature of humanity; imperfection.

[@sanguis_aeternus-x]

+darealliljable Schneizal wanted to play it safe. He knows that the future is unpredictable, as he recognizes that there is great potential for humanity to unify under their own terms, it is equally possible that humanity would destroy itself instead. He looks at history and the human condition as examples to the path he believes humanity would ultimately take without his guiding hand. What Lelouch calls him out on was that Schneizal based all his opinions and beliefs in his lofty title of "Prince" and never experienced death and struggle as a regular person. Most likely, this has given Schneizal a sort of detached "God" complex because his views, which is not logically wrong, by the way, turned him into a sort of sociopath. Lelouch, on the other hand, was willing to take risks, far more then Schneizal. This is reflected on his strategies and tactics he's employed throughout his 'career,' although they were calculated to take the best possible result. Ultimately, Lelouch has placed his bet on humanity's instinct to seek happiness and their empathy. He knows, just as well, that humanity may one day go back to a perpetual cycle of hate and war, but he also recognizes that it may be humanity's best bet to attaining true peace and prosperity for all under their own terms, as a society and as a species. So, in retrospect: Charles and Marianne wanted the *past*, the 'glory' days where everyone was happy and by unifying humanity to a single entity, thus achieving 'true' equality. Lelouch calls bullshit, saying it's what *they* wanted, not humanity as a whole. This, at least according to Lelouch, would forever bind humanity in a true stagnant state, even more so then Schneizal's ideal world. They kinda act like SEELE in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Schneizal took the safe route and chose to place his luck on the *present*, although not perfect, was stable enough for him to anticipate and manipulate in a stagnant state. He would rule as a sort of 'God' by keeping the status quo, forever putting a metaphorical gun to humanity's head in case anyone wanted to threaten said status quo. Just keep in mind that Schneizal did this not for a lust of selfish power, but as ultimate arrogance, thinking only he can achieve results to bring peace. Lelouch placed his bet on the most unstable route, the *future*, where humanity would either destroy itself or elevate itself to new, unseen prosperity. Hoping humanity's shared noble values such as courage, empathy and pursuit of happiness to guide them to a better, more hopeful, future. It's also ironic, in a way, that Lelouch's path is the closest thing to 'Social Darwinism' that the previous Emperor, Charles, has always touted his policies around.

[@friedhotwings]

+Ostrum Tempus thank you

[@philipenjo417]

Schneizel truly was superior, too bad he was never blessed with the Power of the King. Then he would have been unstoppable.

[@jiraiyahermit4999]

Indeed, he has much better experience in combat and tactical 'strategism' compared to Lelouch and I will consider that as an advantage. He even 'pinched' Lelouch while playing Chess.

[@fujinyumi5632]

I don't think he's superior. He just has more experience.

[@fujinyumi5632]

Also, schneizel didn't "pinch" Lellouch, he made a suicidal move.

[@philipenjo417]

+Fujin Yumi Pinch?

[@fujinyumi5632]

Also, both of them had their own advantages. Schneizel had the Fleias while Lelouch had his geass. If Lelouch had the Fleias then he would also be unstoppable. Both played their cards and Lelouch won.

[@Xirbtt]

Or what you see/hear/experience first is always ingrained because it's the original you experienced.

[@humayuanparvez8078]

Schneizel has awesome aim. Right in the heart.

[@Ultranety]

i love the convo they have about humanity

[@ashrafibrahim4934]

Looking back at it again, Schneizel actually seems more down to earth and open than lelouch

[@ANewWorldFool1202]

Lelouch was an awesome character. Dem prediction skills

[@trevorwong4866]

2:00 Is that guard holding refrain?

[@peridoodle2644]

Trevor Wong Stand back! I've got drugs, and I'm not afraid to use them!

[@Trevorious2010]

+Chase Johnson LMAO

[@damienloxely4140]

***** In the name of his Majesty, Emperor Lelouch Vi Brittania... you shall remember the good 'ol days.

[@centrist9222]

Yes

[@LMK42]

Lelouch talking in statements

[@ZBoy-rc8zf]

Lelouch conversations were obvious answers/questions that could be used anywhere & hes his brother he can predict to some level his mindset lelouch is a mastermind