Princess Bubblegum X Marceline: The Best SHIP in Adventure Time

I'll be honest the only reason I talked about Finn ships was so that I could talk about Bubbline. I'll probably make a Finn X Marceline aka Fionna X Marshall Lee video when the Fionna show drops so Stay tuned for that. Thanks to all of you who have joined me in this ducked up year of 2021.
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[@gamegodguides3599]

Fun Fact: the creator of Adventure Tume wanted them to be as a couple sooner. But TV supervisors said Not a Chance in Hell. So when they found out it was the Last season. She dropped the kiss durring the Finale as a Big Middle Finger. Saying "we were cancelled Anyway, so I'm ending it on my own terms"

[@zoepilled]

Isnt the creator a guy?

[@MalciferMephisto]

@@zoepilled TBH who cares about the gender of the creator anyway?

[@zoepilled]

@@MalciferMephisto I know lol I'm just confused as to who they're talking about if not pendleton ward?

[@katie1588]

@@zoepilled ok and?

[@kasa-ysayan]

@@zoepilled The 'creator' the person was referring to was the writers also the storyboarders, since it was them who thoroughly developed pb and Marcy's relationship.

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

I absolutely HATE when people say this relationship came out of nowhere or that they just “made them lesbians and ruined the show” or some shit, it’s like no bruh, you just weren’t paying attention 💀

[@philly_sports1558]

“What Was Missing” came out in 2011. 7 years before the finale. Literally every other episode that they shared with each other had implications that they were closer than “good friends”. If you watched their interactions in Sky Witch, Varmints, the ENTIRETY of Stakes, Broke His Crown, etc. and you didn’t see any romantic tension, you’re blind.

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

@@philly_sports1558 EXACTLY

[@chrisperez9854]

It wasn’t planned from the start, but it was undeniable it would happen given the popularity of WWM, the changing social climate over the years, and the writers growing interest in PB and Marceline’s dynamic.

[@bluebird1914]

I though it did too, but in one of the episodes I can't remember which, outright said that they were together. I was like "Ooooh, that explains why Pb disliked meeting Marceline in that one episode, and their general dynamic. Also why that shirt sniffing ordeal was a bit suspicious."

[@franchisefanatic4142]

Still gross.

[@lalakuma9]

I like to think of PB's characterization as seen through Finn's perspective. In the early season he really idealized her, but as he grew up, he started realizing that she's multidimensional. Also as he grew up he realized that she's more like a mom to him than a peer, lol.

[@cheezbiscuit4140]

Minnie Campbell has a lot in common with PB.

[@tintincruz8660]

​@@cheezbiscuit4140 It's interesting that it's PB who sent Finn off during the first part of islands, making him promise that he will return (like a mother) and when Finn returned from his adventure with his mother, radically changed with a new perspective, PB changed too into a candy elemental.

[@williaMKurek-me6es]

That’s an amazing idea

[@daith_izumi]

More like older sister

[@artsenalproductions4813]

She was a psychopath.

[@Fwootgummi]

We needed this precident to be set. Canon Bubbline is like water in the desert. Their relationship was handled so well even if it wasn't meant to exist in the first place. I hope they set the tone for all future lesbian couples, I love them so much

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Really? We did? I didn't know we as a generation needed two non reproducing people to push an incentive to lessen the world's population in a show. I didn't think we're that desperate. Life and Babies are a gift from God.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

I think Lesbians are thinking on feelings instead of fact. It's sad.😔

[@Lowkeylie]

⁠​⁠​⁠Lessen the world’s population… Bruh. We’ve been consistently increasing the world population at an upward rate since the Black Death ended in _1350_ . Just come out and say you hate gay people. If you’re gonna be bigoted, at least be openly bigoted instead of this halfhearted bullshit. And nobody’s “incentivizing” people to be gay. That’s like “incentivizing” someone to have a certain skin tone. Sure, environmental factors could affect it but a lot of the most important factors are pretty fucking far outside of your control. All things like this do are maybe let someone who is different actually identify and relate to a type of character or relationship they don’t usually see in media, and for a younger viewer, it possible helps them understand themselves themselves better. How horrifying /s

[@cybersaiyan9596]

@@artsenalproductions4813 what?

[@Norweigian7819]

​@@artsenalproductions4813I ordered a cappuccino not a yappuccino 🙏😭

[@finaldarkfire]

One of the big reasons I think the Bubbiline in the finale works so much better than so many other 'Last Episode Hookups' is that Marcy and PB kissing in the finale ISN'T actually them getting back together. I think it's pretty clear they got together some time BEFORE the finale, and the Big Damn Kiss is simply an affirmation/confirmation that Yes, they are a couple again. Personally, I think the ending of 'Stakes' is when PB and Marcy actually started dating again (Macy's 'Now we can be together forever' line REALLY feels like a 'I'm ready to give US a try again' line), and after that we tend to see PB and Marcy together a LOT leading up the finale.

[@philly_sports1558]

That’s how I see it too. They probably got back together as a couple around the time when PB lost her kingdom and was basically living as a farmer in a cabin. So like, around Stakes.

[@Nerd704]

I'm pretty sure they were together before "Broke his Crown". As that was very much introducing your girlfriend to your Dad episode. Also there's the fact that Finn thinks Marcy might be dating someone when quizzed by her bio Dad.

[@guccigirl2389]

I think they came back in the pumpkin patch episode

[@twentyonetortas5921]

Fr Stakes was basically a vampire hunting date for them with their friends joining

[@leah354z2]

Yes thank you, that's always what I thought too, when I saw them kiss in the finale for the first time I was like 'well that's definitely not the first moment they get together' the way they acted felt very.. easy (if that's the word I'm trying to find) like they were laughing the moment away and then boom kiss I mean i knew they had a history and were together in the past so that could explain why they were so at ease to kiss each other but it always hit on me in a way like that wasn't the first moment they got back together and it was somewhere after 'stakes' especially with how much more we see of them together after that (wearing each other's clothes, the meeting the parent whole situation, even in the background having a date night in one of the episodes)

[@robertbarrows6687]

I did love Marceline and Bubblegum's relationship. It is perhaps the most mature one in Western Animation (that includes Adult Animation), seeing why they broke up and then managed to get together again after working on themselves is something I think people, not just kids need to see to form actual healthy relationships in the future.

[@chrisperez9854]

I think the same should’ve happened to Finn and FP.

[@twentyonetortas5921]

Fr in Obsidian Marceline asked if it was okay for her to sing the So Glad song in order to open the door. The song happened when they broke up so her asking shows how she's more considerate of Bonnie's feelings now

[@petersylvester23]

The most mature one is Jake and Lady Raincorn, the best one in general is Marceline and PB.

[@homosexualitymydearwatson4109]

@@chrisperez9854 nah, kids should see representation of people breaking up because they’re not meant for each other.

[@mylem6234]

Yeah at the first the ship sucked since it only happened at the ending of the show but Obsidian really tied some loose ends and made it a great ship

[@beautipool12345]

They actually make a lot of sense as partners not just because of personality types but also the fact that they're both old asf despite looking like teenagers. Both are prolly a hundred or a thousand years old at this point.

[@rex5694-ud3lq]

Marceline is 1000 and PB is 830

[@Cherry-pu4mx]

They have polar opposite personalities..this pair is a bad matchup

[@AnEmu404]

@@Cherry-pu4mxthe saying is ‘opposites attract’. Being opposite can mean complementary, since where one is weak the other is strong - and especially since PB was treated as a literal goddess throughout her life, it makes sense that she’d fall for the one person who understood her and challenged her. They were both old, both had seen atrocities and come out the other side, and where one struggles the other can be strong. It’s Yin and Yang, tale as old as time, dunno what you’re on about mate.

[@Cherry-pu4mx]

@@AnEmu404 The reality is tht opposites don't attract and you are deluded by your fixation on hollywood fiction. There needs to be a level of commonality for a relationship to work. Hence why in couples counseling the counselor always recommends a shared activity of similar interest to jump start the relationship. You will find tht it's a struggle when there is constant disagreement or little depth in conversation as interests differ. Yin and yan in a relationship focuses on femininity and masculinity as complimentary. Safe to say Marceline and pb are leaning toward more masculine traits. They're strong and opposing, rather than complimenting

[@potatopotayto8332]

​@@Cherry-pu4mx me when i try to justify my disagreement of canon lesbians saying they're both too masc for each other and therefore not a good pairing (completely oblivious to the fact that this is not only a heavily gendered but also superficial take that shows little to no understanding of relationships)

[@RabbitCoven]

obsidian has been out for like 2 years now, and that episode still hits me so hard. it made my inner child so unbelievably happy

[@krismover]

obsidian is easily the best thing this franchise has ever done, was legit crying near the end from how emotional and impactful it was. some of the best shit ive seen in a good while now

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Poor unfortunate souls. Everyone is hypnotized by queer agenda.

[@icelily270]

Until the kiss and Obsidian, my mom was in full denial they were once a couple. She was a firm believer that they were just friends. I was under the same impression that's what I'm Just Your Problem had meant, but a couple seasons later (I don't remember which episode) I was starting to think they had been something more than friends. When it finally came out that my dad and I were right and my mom was wrong, we basically rubbed it in her face like a couple of kids, haha (all in good fun of course).

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

Wait really??? Did she not see the Finale where they kissed lmao

[@valentinkambushev4968]

@@UnorthodoxIndividual Ice lily said "Until the kiss" this means that this is when their mom finally realized it.

[@fernandoc5536]

@@UnorthodoxIndividual Fancy seeing you here

[@communistskeletonpiss]

*and they were roommates*

[@Iamalesbianlmao]

That’s really cute

[@philly_sports1558]

I want to bring this up. One of the biggest reactions to seeing Marcy and Bonnie kiss in the finale was along the lines of: “Man, poor Finn. His two crushes got together instead of getting with him. That’s a rough L to take.” Excuse me, what? If you watched the show, Finn stopped having romantic feelings towards Bubblegum a LOOOOOOONG time before the finale. They were good friends for a while and he literally saw her as “one of the boys”. And Finn NEVER had romantic feelings towards Marceline in any fashion at any point in the show. He even says this when he was asking to go to the movies with her when he was like 13. Knowing the mature young man that he was at the end of the show, Finn was probably elated that two of his closest friends were able to come together as a couple. People were so focused on their own shipping agendas that they didn’t even recognize what a beautiful and organic moment Marceline and Bubblegum finally coming together was. Their whole story is pure magic.

[@chrisperez9854]

I wish Finn never had a crush on PB. Such a waste of time for him to pine on someone who was always in love with someone else. I know he’s been over her for a while but I feel that if Bubbline was planned from the start, why have Finn like PB at all?

[@heh4389]

@@chrisperez9854 character development and stuff. by demonstrating how childish he is with romantic feelings in earlier seasons we can watch him grow, and see him be okay with just having himself and his friends. we see near the end that he likes huntress wizard, but he’s okay with not pursuing her and it’s really nice.

[@jessica2301]

People who say stuff like that about finn usually heavily project on him, especially earlier-seasons-Finn where he was childish and unlucky with dating/crushes (just like them IRL!)

[@iskandar3688]

Thank you for clearing my misunderstanding, I appreciate it

[@AuraKumo104]

Yeah they are honestly just great characters with awesome backstories who had a well written romantic relationship. They were definitely the most developed relationship in the show, which I was fine with, especially because their same sex relationship was not treated as a big deal.

[@bean_boy4511]

It deeply saddens me that i will probably never experience anything close to the love these two have for each other.

[@royalaza]

You and me both

[@Thatmoonnamedjune]

Me three😔

[@plabcentral630]

Most of us won’t big dog. Just learn to except it and be happy in the other walks of life.😊

[@oofoofoofbambambam2044]

theyre like 1000 years old

[@user-hc4pz7ik8w]

You never know

[@ryanbusch2885]

23:41 the whole “I think I’ve been tired for a long time” just always hits me really hard because I remember that they’re both basically immortal

[@katrinamarun5629]

Surprisingly this relationship between a vampire and a bubble gum felt more human than other shows I’ve seen

[@claddie4life145]

Fr 😂💀

[@Thatmoonnamedjune]

SO TRUE!!!!!😂

[@seanredmen2676]

Feels more human than well human love

[@Vaternal]

Fr tho I swear I haven’t seen a gay relationship done right until PB and Marcy. Legends of Kora and the Last of us had the worst gay relationships. I can’t even remember Ellie’s girlfriend that’s how forgettable she was

[@victorcharles27]

Still a better love story then Twilight 😅😂

[@pedanticat9479]

Honestly, the fact that these two had a thing for each other went over my head for the first few years/seasons honestly

[@mendacium9209]

Same but also in those seasons I didn't even reach the double digits yet so most things like that went over my head

[@ItsMeLarky]

Same here, I feel so stupid now that I'm rewatching this show 🤦

[@jaysonjackson3455]

With them being exes getting back together, it's easy to see their drama.

[@chrisperez9854]

Bubbline wasn’t thought of until WWM.

[@erenender66]

honestly same but only because my homophobic family made me think gay was just not a thing that happens

[@king-gv3bk]

I think this is a great ship. It isn't rushed, like in other shows. After all, love takes time.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Love takes logic too. Guy and Girl, is the only way it will even work.

[@Youaveragecountryhumansfan]

@@artsenalproductions4813…no?

[@60sspider-man29]

I hope if they go through with the Fionna and Cake show we get to see Marshall and Gumball together. Or at least heavily hint it... Edit- Ik about the thing AND I LOVE IT! I LOVE TWO GAY SONS ✨

[@CrystalChrysanthemum]

gahhhh, still ship marshall and fiona….

[@alejandrasanchez3022]

@@CrystalChrysanthemum Bad boy and good girl cliche?

[@ShantesTravelThings]

but they clearly are shipping fiona and marshal lee

[@nana54fr]

there’s too many male gay couples compared to lesbians couples, we need more lesbian representation

[@60sspider-man29]

@@nana54fr I haven't seen any male couples in cartoons yet besides Voltron and that was awful rep imo.

[@kingssideparadise6813]

I can just imagine how all of the writers collectively sighed in relief when they were allowed to make them kiss, it would've been so frustrating to put so much time into them as individual characters and their backstory together to just leave as friends

[@chrisperez9854]

I mean, Finn and FP stayed as friends and most people, including the writers, were ok with that. I think it was great PB and Marceline got back together, but it’s not like leaving two exes as just friends was something unheard of or not done before in Adventure Time.

[@kingssideparadise6813]

@@chrisperez9854 I'm not saying leaving exes as friends is something bad! Not at all! I'm just saying it would've been unsatisfactory to leave PB and Marceline as friends after all the clear hints at them getting together again

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@chrisperez9854 What's funny about Finn and FP is that both of their voice actors actually wanted them to get back together.

[@fupoflapo2386]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 lol

[@BigFry9591]

@@kingssideparadise6813 Shippers see any and all things shared between characters as "hints" though. Characters hugged? Shipped. Characters shared coffee together? Shipped. Characters touched fingers? Shipped. Not to say that there are no hints to a romantic relationship, but I've grown very skeptical whenever someone brings up "hints" to a romance.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Am I the only one who feels like Marceline was intentionally trying to screw Finn's chance with Bubblegum? I mean she made him do absolutely horrible stuff and I just can't believe she genuinely thought it was a good idea. I think she was actually scared Finn would take Bubblegum and then he will never let go of her.

[@cherie..cherry]

That’s a really interesting take. I personally thought it was just Marceline being Marceline and her being petty and stuff but that makes sense too

[@heh4389]

i feel like marceline knows bubblegum well enough to know she wouldn’t romantically pursue finn, rather she just wanted to mess with bubblegum and upset her also i wanna add that both PB and marceline see finn as more like a little brother so i feel itd be weird for marcy to see finn as a romantic rival

[@philly_sports1558]

“A brainlord like Bonnie? You’d be bored of her in a week!” Spoken like a true ex. In case any ignorant morons still think “their romance came out of nowhere”, there’s tons of subtext/flat out text in the first episode they share screen time together. Even before “What Was Missing”.

[@chrisperez9854]

A lot of princesses liked Finn, so maybe Marceline was worried PB would follow that trend. Wonder what her reaction would’ve been to 13 year old PB crushing on Finn.

[@ohwowsports8793]

@@heh4389 this is exactly my take on this!!! :]]

[@YourIngrownToenail]

i ship Finn with therapy

[@animeweeb9516]

Best ship along with my trauma and therapy😀

[@Thatmoonnamedjune]

The only acceptable Finn ship

[@purpleissupeirior]

Nah therapy’s a player when it comes to adventure time

[@Lowkeylie]

I ship all these characters with therapy to be honest. Especially Simon. Oh… Simon… My heart still breaks for you man.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Finn gets no girl, but pain and he's just a boy.

[@pilotman463]

The growth from season 1 is maybe my favorite growth in tv history simply because the show was released for kids and had the appeal of fantasy and it fits all those classic tropes that were perfect for someone's childhood imagination before maturing and breaking those tropes, while still having the tropes there they would explain the issues with them or that it's not realistic and that even fantasy has its problems and that people must go through change and that growing up has so much beauty behind it. Also adds to why the credit's theme and final song of the show go from never wanting to grow up to growing up and learning from those memories.

[@Evil_Narwhal]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Marceline's dream in Stakes of PB kissing her. Definitely the most explicit the series got about the ship until the finale.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Not only that but PB was also wearing a hanbok, I've heard that a hanbok is used as a wedding dress in Korea.

[@cherie..cherry]

While pep butt was digging her grave too 😭😭 it was so cute but the subtext 💔

[@huhok4964]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 the hanbok is probably made by lady rainicorn since shes cononically korean

[@muplio5329]

i have a theory about that, in the dream it starts raining (which is PB’s tears) so i think that PB actually did kiss her and it got implemented in the dream.

[@superxxamadeus4098]

@@muplio5329 i always kinda thought that too

[@calhuh1232]

For me, Marceline is probably one of the best characters I've ever seen in a cartoon. The writer's definitely put everything they had into her character.

[@carlosescobar2543]

Making her bi?

[@calhuh1232]

@@carlosescobar2543 Everything. Her cool songs, her outfit and her background. Everything was just so cool

[@pongchannel.]

@@calhuh1232 Marceline or raven for me. (And I mean the og raven)

[@mackielunkey2205]

@@calhuh1232 The best part is that the didn’t overuse her (cough Randy Marsh cough)

[@nightmarerageyt2224]

For me shes the worst

[@itsisaiahk_]

We should really thank Rebecca Sugar for all the gay shit she put in Cartoon Network.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Such a waste of energy.

[@ErraticOverthinker]

I love the comedic and stubborn personality they gave to Marcelin, also the inteligent and brave one to Princess Bubblegum. Just love how they broke typical stereotypes from both roles and went further to even make them a couple. Love this show alot. Ice King's plot is my favourite.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

I just love how everyone fell prey to an emotional trap for two girls and saying they're a great couple. 😒 Male and Female is the only way.

[@Youaveragecountryhumansfan]

@@artsenalproductions4813Soo, do you actually believe that or are you just trying to make people mad?

[@artsenalproductions4813]

@@Youaveragecountryhumansfan I just don't understand why people can get mad over something reasonable.

[@Youaveragecountryhumansfan]

@@artsenalproductions4813 So people being gay is unreasonable? That’s like saying having red hair is unreasonable

[@artsenalproductions4813]

@@Youaveragecountryhumansfan Natural Red hair isn't a choice, unless you dye your hair. Being Gay is a choice, you can resist your fleshy desires for self gratification, but strength is frowned upon. Everything is a choice, to sin or not. What else is there?

[@elizabethbaker4957]

This relationship is what I always look for in tv shows but never get. Gay or straight. Bubblegum and Marceline are their own people and they don't get together right away! They grow as people first! They communicate! They support each other! They just... They're so real and honest and (eventually) healthy! Why can't other shows do this?! Finn is my favorite character, but I love that he grew to not need a relationship and realized his own toxic behavior. Bubbline works on the other end, where being together makes them better. ❤️

[@cj6498]

That didn't really happen with Finn though, all things considered. Homie straight up bottled up his life until he could meet Jake again, he said it himself, he freaked and waited until he died just to see him again. He needed his relationship with Jake so badly he neglected all others, not just with people, but with himself, with life. He fell out of one toxic behavior and fell directly into another for the rest of his existence. Didn't even have anyone he wanted to check in with before he reincarnated. I mean, it's touching that he held out for Jake, but I know for a fact that if Jake hadn't ascended all earthly desires and actually checked in on Finn, he wouldn't have wanted him to live out the rest of his life like that. It's not even strictly romance in the sense, but rather a sense of fulfillment. They care about each other, but Jake lived a full life. He got a loving relationship, he had a family, he overcame his toxic card war problems and old bad romantic relationships. Reckoned with his old criminal lifestyle. Dude was straight up ascending in the afterlife. And Finn.... It was nice seeing Jake and Finn get back at the end, but I can't shake the image of Finn's final chapter being him as a skeleton screaming Jake's name in the void. I'm gonna make this clear. This isn't about ships, this is about character development. Finn got done dirty in that part. He never got round to figuring out the whole meat reality thing like he said to the Comet. Jake did more than he did. And it isn't about doing the same things Jake did, either. He could be with someone, he could be poly, he could just have a kid he looks after, he could have different friends, he could just be alone. None of that matters. The guy just didn't develop. He literally turned back into his kid form right after he died. That sucks.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

I really wish we can get more gay and straight relationships like bubbline

[@elizabethbaker4957]

@@cj6498 Would it be crazy to say that I like that though? Adventure Time was never about *perfectly* happy endings (Bubbline is as close as we get). And I never really saw his desire to be with Jake as all encompassing, when the end (the original) had him seeing his mother and connecting with the music hole (a weird sentence lol). Yes, there was a toxic part of him that could not be happy without Jake, but we still saw him being a hero to the end. I honestly can't imagine Finn just throwing away everyone else because he lost Jake. He seemed at least content as an adult in obsidian. In the end it lies with our interpretation. I'm an optimist. My love for Finn means I see him finding a mostly happy life even after Jake died, helping people and still learning until the next life where maybe his spirit grows even more. He's not a twelve year old when he changes in the afterlife, he's the Finn we see at the original end of Adventure Time, y'know? I'm not good at explaining my thoughts and I don't wanna argue, but I hope I got across my feelings XD

[@spidergirl6730]

@@elizabethbaker4957 I feel the same way!

[@alsparkproductions7849]

As someone who was watching to see who Finn would end up with seeing him bounce between love interests left and right to not really end with any of the main characters was a bit disappointing but yeah these two make for a good couple. We don't really have a lot in like them in cartoons

[@jon-robertmahon210]

They're actually Bi. Marcelline has dated Ash and PB dated Mr Creampuff and her younger self seemed attracted to Finn, just because they ended up with each other at the end doesn't mean they are no longer bi.

[@cherie..cherry]

Some people still might say it’s a lesbian relationship since they’re both girls, even if they are bisexual. Also I’m sure sarcastic realises this because the thumbnail has a bi flag

[@puzzle_moon]

marcy is bi but pb is lesbian.. theres a deleted story board that says pb is “not into boys”

[@angelw8791]

@@puzzle_moon shes bi

[@nightslasher2516]

@@puzzle_moon can you give me a link to this supposed storyboard? I'm interested in seeing it

[@zen0vi]

@@cherie..cherry But it's not a lesbian relationship, it's a sapphic relationship. That's what the comment was saying. Calling it lesbian just because it's wlw is bi erasure

[@Macaulyn_97]

I hope the Fiona and Cake cartoon puts their boy counterparts together as well.

[@TruelyGumdrop]

Its bound to happen actual! Marshall Lee likes Gary’s cookies!

[@cosygoose1813]

That actually might be better if done right. Maybe make bubblegum less terrible.

[@TruelyGumdrop]

@@cosygoose1813 they did it well!! Gary is a baker instead of a psychotic dictator!!

[@cosygoose1813]

@@TruelyGumdrop I just saw that, I'm just wondering how he's alive given he's human and bubblegum is over 100 years old.

[@TruelyGumdrop]

@@cosygoose1813 the magic in their world drained, so there, they’re regular young adult humans ^w^

[@PichuElric]

Mannn the fact that PB and Marcy are together always makes me wonder if Gumball and Marshal Lee have this kinda history, because the boys seem like they just hate each other not because they're exes but because they're too different, their dislike for each other further reinforced by their fondness for Fionna

[@Subukuru]

Probaly cause fionna and cake was a fanfic, so subtext relationships like the fallout of Marcellene and pb just became surface level bicker

[@billykaplan9915]

There's something interesting about it their relationship seems different depending on who's the narrator (I think Marceline even told that story once) and they definitely were meant to be since in the Fiona and cake spin off they got together

[@Gnorkadork]

I think young Marceline deciding to be a monster that scares people away before she meets Simon still tracks. She was a young child. Children make a lot of big decisions and then don't stick to them when it gets hard, or becomes inconvenient. When she met Simon she was a scared and lonely kid and I bet she didn't want to scare him off because he made her hopeful. And then Simon left her. Which must have hurt a lot and probably made her think (at least for a while) that she shouldn't have put her hope in him. She opened herself up to being abandoned again. And every time she abandons her resolution to be a monster and scare people away it only ever ends in her getting hurt/abandoned which would make her more reluctant to trust over time. The break-up with PB also feels a bit like Marceline preemptively ending their relationship before PB can decide to abandon her for her people and duties as a princess. Marceline not mercilessly following through on a decision she made as a child while she was very hurt and vulnerable and trying her best to hold it together doesn't feel like a flaw or a mistake to me. More like a lonely little girl's need for companionship overpowering her newly found cynicism.

[@spidergirl6730]

I think so too. She didn't become "a monster" in that moment. She just learned to think that everytime she gets abandoned she did it because she wanted it. Until she scares them of before they can abandon her (see break up with PB) and in he end scaring them of befor getting close with them (beginning of adventure time).

[@SobrietyandSolace]

@@spidergirl6730 Welcome to Borderline Personality Disorder and/or complex PTSD

[@chrissy9997]

@@SobrietyandSolace And yet even with all that, it's still possible to have a healthy relationship as long as you have patience and understanding.

[@WobblesandBean]

Not to mention, due to her vampirism, she's been locked as a teenager for all this time. In Stakes, she admits that she's felt herself mature for the first time in aeons.

[@youraristrocatmom4108]

This was so perfectly writte

[@dungusglumbus9946]

Honestly PB is the only person I could imagine Marceline ending up with. I always thought that she would just be alone. Cursed to be immortal, having to watch all her friends grow old and die. She would honestly prefer to just be alone if PB didn’t exist. I was happy when they got together because the creators gave me a relationship I didn’t even know I wanted

[@idkncidknc424]

Same I just felt bad for fin cause he never held a healthy relationship and watched everyone around him get together

[@Arffff03]

Oh bell naw… I hate PB with my whole life. Marcy should have ended up with another female for all I care. PB was the worst character. She was straight up evil IMO, Marcy deserved better

[@idkncidknc424]

@@Arffff03 👏👏literally i feel like pb should've been by herself for a while to reflect on her actions tbh

[@karmasshow7361]

@@Arffff03 who asked?

[@Arffff03]

@@karmasshow7361 I just said my thoughts, which I can do. Watch the entirety of adventure time and tell me you don’t think PB is a horrible being. I like the lgbt rep, but I hate that it had to be with PB 🤷‍♀️ because I Don’t think she deserves anything good if her pathetic existence

[@isaluvscarti]

“Shes got daddy issues TWICE” This is js a perfect way to explain marceline

[@kati3514]

Gosh, I don’t remember much of adventure time nor did I finish watching it, but that episode where they had their belongings stolen always stuck with me. The way it ended with Marceline sticking around for the company and PB’s precious thing ended up being a shirt she had given her was SO CUTE

[@cking4869]

Ok, but can we talk about how Marceline changes clothes more in a single episode than Finn does in the entire series?

[@Dumbass782]

Fr

[@alejandrootero8894]

Ha, womans...

[@audreymcknight]

Finn has more outfits than you’d think

[@aaunyea4799]

​@@audreymcknightBubblegum does too

[@tintincruz8660]

Finn does not shower, unlike Jake who seems to be shown bathing in a bunch of episodes

[@melancholysky13]

I remember when they finally kissed I didn't realize what happened at first. My mom gasped and I asked "what?" She was like "They just kissed!" I then rewound it and watched the scene again and did the biggest gasp I thought I was gonna pass out lol. Then we both started cheering and freaking out over it. Good times lol.

[@purpleballoon8367]

Aww that’s so cute! What a fun moment

[@theofficalsilentraven]

For me and my dad, we we're sitting at the dinning table, and once that kiss happened...we we're just like: "Did that happened??" "Did we miss all of the signs" and by this yeah, we missed a lot of signs-

[@ChristinaMoralesMindfuqed]

Love that reaction

[@thekratosmeatrider]

Disgusting ass ship

[@GhostRat__]

My mom had the same reaction found it to be very tasteful coming from a overbearing Christian.

[@Hakajin]

OK where can I get a Princess Bubblegum t-shirt that says "Gaslight gatekeep girlboss?" I never knew that was something I needed... But I do.

[@narusuke413]

Girl boss should not be there

[@claddie4life145]

What a wonderful analysis of this amazing couple! 💖 I'm literally only on Season 2 of the show, but I've just had to go ahead and watch all the Bubbline scenes because I knew that they got together from it being all over the Internet a few years ago. There are sooo many seasons, and I just couldn't wait. These two have my heart. 😭

[@tenki_]

Adventure Time has every type of romance story we have the coming of age with Finn and Flame Princess, where the protagonists fall in love, do their thing, break up, grow up as people and later, when the dust is settled, become good pals with eachother, maybe they weren't ment for eachother, but they had an undeniable impact on both of their lives we have the classic tragedy with Betty and Simon, an impossible love that was doomed from the very start due to things out of their control, but making clear that they were soulmates we have the fluffy cute wholesome romance between two individuals who make eachother better, complement eachother perfectly and ultimately push through their differences to meet a happy conclusion, leaving only true, unconditional love on the horizon and finally we have the mature and established one with Jake and Lady Rainicorn, the perfect couple of adults who manage several families and act as tutors the rest truly a masterpiece of a show, blows out of the water every other show from its generation

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

AT > SU Sorry I had to

[@JustAStranger2840]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 Don't be sorry! Baring Garnet, that's just the objective truth. ( U_U)

[@tenki_]

it's not that simple there was a point where Steven Universe was on par or maybe even above Adventure Time SU's prime came right when season 7 and 8 dipped a little bit in quality (they made too many filler episodes), fortunately the last two were pretty amazing and coincidentally Steven Universe lost its focus, although it recovered on the final lap

[@justagoodcook3390]

@@tenki_ But you have to admit the filler epsiodes in AT are fun. lol

[@tenki_]

@@justagoodcook3390 no, not really SU's filler was way better

[@JetblackJay]

One thing we do gotta bring up here is not everyone due to cartoon Network being cartoon Network couldn't always see a new episode heck I didn't know about the shirt sniffing and I would've if I saw it went yeah that's a ship even other people missed episodes so it's not surprising if it felt out of nowhere

[@deerinheadlights7179]

and also the meaning of the songs is often lost in the translation... and they are the as said many times before especially for "i am just your problem" the brightest clue for all this

[@Phoboskomboa]

Piracy is your civic duty when shows make content inaccessible through legitimate channels.

[@ninab.4540]

@@deerinheadlights7179 Streaming is your friend dude

[@DimitarPenkov]

My country would just cut stuff for no reason, so when I was a kid and was watching an episode at certain parts it would just cut into another scene and I would be confused whether the episode glitched or not.

[@deerinheadlights7179]

@@ninab.4540 knowing english is... but i did not know anything until before 4 months when I started actually learning it. Not like i really cared who likes who when I was a kid but still

[@frootsnacc6790]

I love how we’ve seen PB wearing a shirt Marcy gave her, then we see Marcy wearing the sweater PB wore during the Stakes miniseries

[@tranha3616]

I said the exact same thing to my friend watching the last episode: "well, this came out of nowhere. IF YOU WERE BLIND!!!"

[@simpleclean2468]

For those who are in Denial of this ship. Remember, it’s a Half Human Half Demon Half Vampire and a stick of Gum.

[@epicgamerlegend6159]

You cant be three half’s but sure close enough

[@u1trav1oletarc]

@@epicgamerlegend6159 sure! Half human, half demon. And half of that is vampire

[@HellxKnight54]

@@u1trav1oletarc could have just said a 1/3rd.

[@justaghostinthesea]

@@aduckofsomesort Amazing response

[@KARROTSSSS]

deadass, this was the BEST slow burn ship ever. even after i stopped watching adventure time, i was still invested in the characters and their relationship to each other. i was about 9 when "what was missing" came out, and i honestly believe it helped me understand that i could love people of the same gender without it being so incredibly different. if it was marshall lee singing to princess bubblegum, it would have carried the same emotional weight. even if they weren't explicitly together at first, i really think the ship paved the way to accepting queer folk and accepting them as complex humans, just the same as anyone else

[@kelpermoon23]

It was cringe af

[@jacksborns3414]

@@kelpermoon23 Fr. Forced af too

[@TenkoMinako]

@@jacksborns3414 No it wasn't??? I don't know how it could have come off as forced. It felt like a very natural instance of two exs reconnecting and bring friendly with each other again, and slowly progressing to rekindling their relationship.

[@jacksborns3414]

@@TenkoMinako PB is a terrible person yet she still got with Marceline?

[@TenkoMinako]

@@jacksborns3414 PB being a "terrible person" as you say has literally nothing to do with what I commented. It was about how her and Marceline's relationship doesn't feel forced, not about PB as a person. -_-

[@GiangNguyen-cg8nm]

bro, you got me when you show the Cait & Vi 'oil and water' scene, like I just wanna chill and relax and watch a Bubbline analysis, and then Cait and Vi, MY BEST SHIP, jumped out of nowhere. I was really surprised and laughed of no reason. And putting that scene in the video makes me love your analysis even more =))

[@EvilParagon4]

I had this paused for 6 months when you got to the Obsidian section, and finally rewatched all of Adventure Time just to watch Distant Lands. And now I can finally hit play again. God damn.

[@SamFlowers995]

That's some damn patience. Props to you, I got spoiled in order to watch the video lol

[@granthenrypanganiban4183]

I never really shipped the "Straight" ships tbh, but Fionna and Marshall Lee... bruh that was an A-TIER ship y'all

[@pixelfairy6128]

I die on the hill that the only heteronormative ships I like- one of both of them are raging bisexuals (both in this case)

[@pixelfairy6128]

​@ZE Brigitte A lot of straight ships have problematic heteronormative or misoginistic undertones. Example is almost all the shows from up to the mid 2000's featuring a husband and wife who secrety hate each other, with the husband being a lazy slob who gets drunk every night, and the wife a stuck-up priss who hates her husband and hates being his slave but continues to do it anyway.

[@orionic3348]

@ZE Brigitte Literally the only difference is that straight people only romantically love the opposite gender, while gay people are men who love other men and lesbians are women who love other women. This commenter is just kinda dumb because it doesn’t matter if its a straight ship or homosexual ship.

[@Ajoi14]

@@orionic3348 people who hate hetero ships are really something. Sometimes i feel i have to be embarrassed to be hetero myself which is becoming annoying tbh.

[@orionic3348]

@@Ajoi14 Yeah, i just dont see why it natters if its hetero or not. Its a ship, thats all it is.

[@Nyahahameha]

"In a world full of princesses, Marceline is the one, and only, queen." I mean, there's also Werewolf Queen, but I don't think we ever get to see her, she's only mentioned, IIRC, by that one worm teaching a class of other worms in that one early episode, and that entire lesson could have been a hypothetical to begin with. Assuming it's not hypothetical, though, we could maybe extrapolate that other species of storybook monsters might also have/be queens. There could be a Mummy Queen, and a Frankenstein's Monster Queen milling about Ooo somewhere.

[@reaganeidemiller7132]

the werewolf queen is her bitter rival, to the point that they cannot even share the same series, lol

[@RayramAureanBlue]

I don't think he meant a literal queen so much as a "Yaaas Queen"

[@kecym.4808]

what if she's the werewolf queen she can shapeshift

[@Nosjjddjjd]

@@kecym.4808 holy shit yeah she’s turned into wolf-like creatures

[@rosetyler8666]

@@kecym.4808 I was going to say the same thing ! In my headcanon Marcy is the werewolf queen

[@Creepymusic782]

You making me want to rewatch the show. Truly a masterpiece of a cartoon tbh.

[@frosted_glaceon5513]

When Just your problem first aired I literally didn't even know same sex relationships even existed, so it flew waaaaaay over my head. My subconscious didn't finally fetch it back until I rewatched the whole show after seeing the finale.

[@sammywilliam8156]

I really do like how they played it off as a regular relationship and didn't make it sound like it was going to be a five part episode

[@dulcerocio5124]

I seen people hate Pb a LOT, but wow you actually have described my love for her, she might be evil but that’s what makes me love her tbh.

[@kasa-ysayan]

I believe that she's not evil she made mistakes, decisions she thought would be the greater good(mostly for her kingdom), she grew up without any parents or guardians to guide her while growing up, basically raised herself and took care of her brother in an apocalyptic world she was born in. Her created Uncle Gumbald's betrayal, during when the Candy Kingdom is still young she had to deal with the bath boy gang, Shoko's betrayal,the raiders, Ice kings kidnappings also when he almost killed her falling into the Lich's well and getting possessed, almost dying twice because of that. It's no wonder why she developed paranoia and became what she is now. Now to think of it, when it comes to her kingdom and ones she cares about, she's actually pretty selfless.

[@gaybatgosqueak]

She's not evil she's morally grey. Which is a more realistic take on a fictional character. It's what makes her so entertaining. She does sometimes bad things for good reasons.

[@dulcerocio5124]

@@kasa-ysayan Thank you sm!! Exactly, a lot of people like to shit on her, saying that she is just a awful character and don’t deserve her happy ending or even deserve to die TwT (especially saying that Marceline deserves someone much better 😑) I really love the things you have pointed out, I’m really happy to see people share the same view as us 😌💗

[@kasa-ysayan]

@@dulcerocio5124 No probs. I find it annoying when people say that. Who could possibly match Marceline better than PB? They're polar opposites but complement each other very well, they borrow each other's best traits, the fact that they're both immortal makes it even better for them (they wouldn't have to worry about each other dying because of age). People often misunderstand PB's character because she's a very complex character. And because PB's backstory gets revealed way later into the show adds to that. She internalizes a lot of her feelings for the sake of being rational. And since from the start she was completely alone (though she had her brother, she had to take care of him and didn't have anyone to take care of her and so) that's why she created a family, she felt lonely but she didn't have a lot of deep relationship while growing up so she didn't know how relationships work, that caused her conflict in the original series. By Obsidian you can see how much PB has changed, she took Marceline's advise and learned to balanced her work and personal pizza, the writers showed this to us by making PB live with Marceline. She's not as paranoid as before and trusts that her kingdom can do just fine without her supervision 24/7. She's not an open book, that's why people tends to misjudge her. She had the most interesting characterization in the show imo, she's a character that shouldn't be seen from a black and white perspective. You don't see a lot of PB's character archetype on any shows.

[@SobrietyandSolace]

@@dulcerocio5124 I get the feeling her actions would have been seen as less evil if she was a dude She's a soft pink female ruling candy kingdom FFS so anything other than sweet and benevolent will look bad

[@quinn4330]

I can't believe that they really did end up together 😭 I always knew there was something going since that door episode and marcy singing. I shipped them that moment and I was still a kid that time and I didn't even knew that I liked girls too. The chemistry between them is just off the roof. All the build up, tensions and teases that we saw was all worth the wait.

[@edithelvirasteinkrausoverg4441]

My headcanon is that they got together again right after Stakes. Then I feel like Marceline introducing PB to Simon is a way of introducing her "new" girlfriend" Another thing. Doing the apocalypse, bubblegum is actually there in bubblegumform, with Marcy and Simon

[@Jade_1872]

Wasn’t expecting that ending line, but now I’m horrified thinking of how many people may think he’s dating his niece… Even if not by blood. Finn had a messed up life enough we don’t need step sister vibes

[@TailsClock]

Since they're not related it'll be okay.mp3

[@theofficalsilentraven]

Oh Jesus Christ

[@chrisperez9854]

That was just people grasping at straws and wanting him to end up with someone. Since Bronwyn was the last girl Finn showed up with and HW wasn’t seen or mentioned in Distant Lands, they latched onto her even though she’s his step niece. They still can’t accept that Finn is one of those types of people who wasn’t meant for romance. His own universe is literally against the idea of him enjoying a long-lasting relationship with someone.

[@thomasallen9974]

@@chrisperez9854 Indeed and the send off for Finn and Jake made it 100% the only romance for Finn was his bromance with Jake, eternal best buds forever to be together. I thought that was always clear.

[@nealthomson9505]

The apocalypse. . . . . . . :)

[@introvy_vee]

you know it’s a good ship when you think they're really REALLY good friends throughout the whole show... and when they kiss it just feels right and you accept it right away.

[@mylem6234]

I didn’t like it since it would have been better to have them date earlier so we could have seen their relationship and their ups and downs. So yeah it didn’t feel right for me since it felt cheap but Obsidian really showed how great their chemistry is so them kissing is just adorable now.

[@ecstasy.dreamer]

@@mylem6234 the writers wanted to do that so bad but the network wouldn’t let them. the only reason they did it in the last episode was because it was, well, the last episode and they were being cancelled anyway

[@mylem6234]

@@ecstasy.dreamer Yeah I do know that and it sucks but my point still stands

[@FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange]

@@ecstasy.dreamer well, we do see little hints of them already dating. at Finn's bday they're holding hands for example. I don't think they got into a relationship when they kissed in the finale, I think that's when it just became official. and again, to anyone not seeing this coming, were you blind? if this was a heterosexual pairing, people would be SWEARING that they're dating. PB sniffed Marceline's shirt, they blush around each other constantly, they went on a fancy dinner date, Marceline imagines PB being there when she dies, ... I swear straight people are just dense on purpose sometimes

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I feel like these two succeeded where Korrasami didn’t do as well when it came to development and earning of the final moment. These two on the other hand were handled very well.

[@MollyHuffle]

Love this duo and couple. They make a great team and was pumped when the last episode hit.

[@HennyLeeLee]

“This special didn’t need to exist, but I’m glad it does” Narratively I agree😂 However just for the sake of another middle finger to those that didn’t want this relationship, we needed this😂

[@clarencehemphill3403]

So just to piss of people who dont like this ship it was needed? That's strange

[@kasa-ysayan]

@@clarencehemphill3403 It's sarcasm lol. Anyway, the special kinda needed to existed to tie off the loose ends PB and Marcy's romance left.

[@clarencehemphill3403]

@@kasa-ysayan fair enough

[@iBloodxHunter]

@@clarencehemphill3403 That's how these people operate. They decry how you need to be more empathetic and then do everything to piss off others.

[@mylem6234]

@@kasa-ysayan Yeah that’s true. Also since the ship happened at the end we never really saw PB and Marcelino as a couple so I though it sucked asa ship but watching Obsidian changed my mind.

[@Killallmangahaters]

Ignoring basically the whole video about romance, Ice King/Simon is one of the best and most devastating characters in fuckin fiction for me, i love him so much, and every single episode with him and Marcy were the best in the show. The episode where they "start a band" and she sings his "lyrics" is emotionally devastating

[@pongchannel.]

"Daddy why did you eat my fries"

[@gamerguy9961]

You're half right and half wrong marceline deserved everything in that relationship after everything she went through but princess bubblegum doesn't deserve anything after all she's done and I will die on this hill if I must. Heck go look up pb slander compilation if you don't believe me.

[@lickvinegarkids3654]

I agree pb is a war criminal and also is manipulative af

[@kteely]

I started watching the show when it first came out. I shipped them from the get go but as soon as "im just your problem" aired it was confirmed in my brain that they were a couple and I was never going to think otherwise. I was so happy with the progression of their relationship throughout the series that when they finally got together in the finale (with obsidian as a bonus) I was SO happy. I agree it felt like a much "better" korrasami LOL

[@Nota_Frogg]

I was making jokes about how these two were as a couple then broke up and that's why they hated each other to my sister and she was in full denial. I love watching her getting upset because she really wanted fin and PB together. She countered my claim with "Marceline had a boyfriend" and "SPB and fin was a couple until she became BPB". Then few more seasons came out and Marceline and PB relationship gotten intimate. My sister was so pissed when they kissed lol. I mean she really want fin to be with PB

[@KnightSlasher]

I was the same until I realized I was gay later in life

[@freerobuxcheckmychannel8085]

Lmao that's great 😂😂👌

[@freerobuxcheckmychannel8085]

I'm already imagine your sister reaction 😂

[@Spaced92]

PB and Finn got hard shut down in the episode she got deaged, doubly so when he realised how old she was, some people just never realised it and that's when 'some' people started to hate her, the purpose of her character wasn't some wish fulfilment quest giver.

[@afoolishfopdoodle3284]

I remember when I used to want Finn and PB to be canon. What was I, seven? That was waaaaaay before I had any concept of queercoding (of even queerness in general) and way before Bubbline was canon. Man oh man how the times do change.

[@theninjabird9510]

This ship was so rewarding to the people who re-watched episodes and paid attention to details in the episodes of which they appeared

[@KelpoTheCereal]

I watched a live stream of the final episode with a bunch of random people? when Marceline and Bubblegum kissed we absolutely LOST our freaking minds, it was such an awesome experience to share. I hope those people are doing good now.

[@NotSCP-682]

I fairly certain Marceline is Bi since she had a Boyfriend for a unknown period of time ( #AshSucks ), Bubblegum is probably Gay though since I can't recall a single time she's ever responded to a guy's advances past wanting to be their friend.

[@imposteramogus2167]

I mean maybe she was bicurious and ash made her think men were trash? (Fair enough tbh)

[@willowarkan2263]

I guess there is her 13 year old version dating finn and her past boyfriend creations. Like normally you could argue comp-het, but given she basically raised herself in the aftermath of the apocalypse i don't think that it would be applicable on a narrative level.

[@iamabread9614]

When they kissed both me and my pops cried but my mom is asking why are we crying to a cartoon, my pops then said the following "This two people went through so much and might face even more complicated problems in the future but loving someone in a moment of chaos and death is a moment that tells you how much you love a person." My pops loves watching cartoons and love Adventure time even more and he started rooting for Marceline and Bubblegum since stakes and he is absolutely wasn't satisfied at all when the finale plus Obsidian happened . He continued to ask the creators on Twitter for more Bubblegum and Marceline to this very day.

[@DudeOnTheInternett]

Mmm bread

[@wolfiebates3641]

Your father is a fucking W (winner) like that's cool as fuck,my parents couldn't care any less about any of the shows I watch or the things I love within the cartoon realm,but seeing that there are grown adults who agree about a beautiful relationship,makes me very happy.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

Why did you cry? It's sinful. Homosexuality in any form shouldn't be glorified.

[@iamabread9614]

@@artsenalproductions4813 My dad is insanely Christian but love Romance. He watched Adventure Time because of his kids. He loves the characters and even more love their deep connection. Here is a passage he shared when I ask him about his stance if you want to know his stance regarding LGBTQ+ Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." My father is a man of few words but is smart and is a great speaker and person.

[@bitupr8458]

And everybody clapped

[@Bridget466]

Sarcastic Chorus is the sole reason I’m giving Adventure Time another go. I never saw it when it first came out, I tried getting into it years later after the show had fairly recently ended. I’m going at back now because of the chaotic joy this guy gets from talking about this show.

[@erniemitch9922]

It's worth it

[@theofficalsilentraven]

@@erniemitch9922 agreed

[@lemonqvartz]

lmfao, i remember finding his videos from his summary of carmen sandiego! i love that show :)

[@jingxie1451]

Same, I never realized what a deep show Adventure Time was until I watched this guy’s videos about it

[@hartincmajor202]

People were legit surprised by the last episode. Like they weren't building to this for the whole show. People still call it "woke pandering"

[@gracefoster7587]

I’m rewatching the show and it’s very very obvious PB and Marcy have romantic history/continued feelings in season 7. If you missed it, you were a child or extremely oblivious

[@christinepearson4972]

Note that marceline was also a vampire hunter at one point in her life

[@willowarkan2263]

Several points even if you count stakes.

[@freakishuproar1168]

_"While the fan art was great, seeing them do it in canon is a joy my vindictive heart can never say no to, as I could hear the homophobes sob in the corner."_ Indeed. Making homophobes hate their lives is the noblest pursuit.

[@iBloodxHunter]

True empathy in action, folks.

[@meliodas69420]

Homophobes are people who hate all lgbtq+ right?

[@fireking6308]

@@iBloodxHunter Empathy is selective.

[@iBloodxHunter]

@@fireking6308 Which is why I love to mock fake bleeding hearts.

[@60sspider-man29]

Anyone else ship Marshall and Gumball? The genderbent alternate reality bi boi version's of Marci and PB.

[@_jigjoy]

Having them being exes was such a good choice of the writers, watching their history unfold, the relationship they used to have and how that impacts them both in the present, instead of just seeing them build a relationship alongside the shows timeline was so refreshing. Not only for a cartoon, but live action as well. Let characters have baggage, yall Also, they matched so well. Both being immortal and as old as they were. It made sense that they had a history together. It's a really fun dynamic. Anyways, when I 1st watched the show, I was just a tiny gay, but seeing them in it, even though it was a lot of *wink wink nodge nodge* without confirmation, was actually really important to me. At that point, I thought it was going to stay in subtext, bc like, around s7 i feel like the AT staff dropped the subtext and they were very clearly together, but without explicit confirmation ppl were still like "hur dur dur they just good friends hur dur" so when they had the kiss in the finale it was such a big good surprise

[@theblacknexusyt]

I was literally blind. But then again when this show came out I was a child still learning things. The word "Gay" didn't exist to me at that time so I had no clue what was happening so if I have ever seen a gay couple at the time, I always thought they were friends. But now I'm older and I understand almost everything so more things stand out to me now. Adventure Time was maybe too mature for my naive little kid brain

[@melon0637]

Just mentioning together again puts a tear to my eye BRO I SOBBED SO MUCH IT WAS AMAZING Edit: alright time to rewatch the entire AT series starting from episode 1

[@falsetone5983]

dude where can I watch Adventure Time

[@loycos3648]

Bubbline imo is THE best wlw ship. their story was told in such a unique way and despite them fitting into certain tropes, the characters feel like nothing you've ever seen before. the fact that theyre exes? and both immortal beings who's seen the world changes around them? chef's kiss. that being said, hard to forget just little of them we got in the actual show (as text or subtext), which for me made them more intriguing, but disappointing nonetheless. Obsidian saved them a little bit, gave some meat to their relationship and to fans something to work with. their history is so long its probably impossible to cover it all without making the audience feel like theyve been spoon fed information, but I wish we got to see a little more of their past. Cait\Vi, the other couple you compare them to, feel more like theyre extremely important parts to each others' stories in the show, which is something that Bubbline sadly never had (thanks censorship), and we also get to see thier relationship's origin story in detail. Glad we're getting more explicit rep these days but will forever cherish the founding fathers like this ship.

[@mylem6234]

I wouldn’t really call it the best ship since it only happened at the ending of the show, we never really saw them as a couple until Obsidian happened which showed how much chemistry they have.

[@Puffinlia]

@@mylem6234 yess imo the best wlw ship in cartoons is luz and amity bc we got kisses, dates, a confession and all before even close to the finale

[@mylem6234]

@@Puffinlia Exactly

[@pongchannel.]

@@Puffinlia I mean the show also focuses a lot more on the romance then other shows which is a unfair advantage to really call it better. They had more time to use to flesh it out

[@Puffinlia]

@@pongchannel. that is true but it’s still the best representation wlw have gotten and is a really big stride in our representation

[@ellie8272]

I watched Adventure Time as a little kid and didn't understand my feelings at all. I didn't know who I was yet and just liked the show. Of course I had little crushes on PB and Marceline but didn't really know why Coming back to this show after hearing about the finale (and being an out lesbian) makes me feel so happy in a way I didn't know I would be. It feels like the show grew up alongside me. Even when I wasn't there with it

[@orionic3348]

Not the same experience in any way for me, but I sure relate to the fact the show grew up with me.

[@advent4156]

"I didn't know who i was yet" you're gay aren't you ? ☠

[@yashindiamente282]

you got influnced most likely

[@ellie8272]

@@yashindiamente282 Trust me there was way more straight media out there to influence me than lesbian media. If a single depiction of gay girls was enough to make me gay, I feel like I was probably destined to end up that way no matter what

[@strangeanimations588]

@@yashindiamente282 Unlikely

[@demondays333]

Once bubbline became canon, my country literally stopped showing the show. It would hide any and every episode that even had a hint of gay subtext so I'm sad I was robbed of this amazing ship from my fav show

[@berserker3414]

I guess Steven Universe doesn't exist here then

[@demondays333]

@@berserker3414 you're right it used to

[@refth6893]

"GRRR, Bubblegum and Marceline are gay! now i'm gonna be turning into a zombie! grrrr" -some Homophobic

[@reesespuffs7142]

me

[@jiwanlal7149]

@@reesespuffs7142 bro

[@reesespuffs7142]

@@jiwanlal7149 what

[@jiwanlal7149]

@@reesespuffs7142 Bro

[@rhysjones81]

Marcie and Ice King is the greatest story arc for me. I always found how she still loves him, even though he's a complete nutcase as the Ice King, to be very endearing. Despite his gross misunderstanding of basically everything as IK, she will kick his ass but never judge. She knows what's going on, has tried to help him, but knows she can't.

[@td1574]

it makes it so sad that the ice king became slowly deranged though. marcy deserves better :(

[@sadlobster1]

Aside from the age difference, PB's refusal of Finn's affections makes perfect sense now. She was more into girls than boys

[@chrisperez9854]

She probably liked Shoko, which is awkward since Finn is her reincarnation.

[@gaybatgosqueak]

*She was more into Marceline than boys

[@Speederzzz]

Wasn't her first partner a male-like candy person she made?

[@sadlobster1]

@@Speederzzz Yes...but she barely paid attention to him or his advances, she only cared about her research

[@Speederzzz]

@@sadlobster1 true... but I don't think she would have the social pressures to think she would need a "boyfriend-like" candy, I don't think there was heteronormativity when she made the candy kingdom... Am I overthinking this? Yes, yes I am

[@pipam1061]

I remember watching "what was missing" when I was young and when Marceline and PB talked about the shirt, I was like "omg were they close friends back then😱😱 I want to see this friendship flourish" now they're a couple lol HOW DID I NOT SEE THAT COMING

[@aaronbradley430]

same I was a really stupid kid cus I never picked up that Bonnie and Marcy used to date only when I turned older And saw the finaly I went back and rewatched all the episodes hinting at there rellanshiop

[@user-ww5mu2ot9e]

"Trauma porn incarnate" what a weird sentence bro 💀

[@Jamjamsart]

I remember people saying we were "crazy" for thinking they were a thing and said "your reading too much into it, it's a cartoon." Glad we got to laugh in their faces

[@Rosemont104]

No wonder why 'shipping is and has always been so popular - it's likely projecting oneself onto at least one half of a potential pairing. The only line between regular 'ships and self-insert, harem-style shows or something like Twilight depends on whether or not both characters are Characters (having a defined personality to bounce off of and develop with).

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Maybe it represents our desire for love. Even if we don't project ourselves as one of the characters we still want to see love blooming. Maybe it's because in fictional stories we can ignore the inevitable problems that can come with a relationship or its' end .

[@HelloOnepiece]

Nah healthy shipping can happen because you wish those people to be happy, I mean dont get all giggly you start shipping your friend and their crush once they trust you enough to share this with you? Just me ?

[@valentinkambushev4968]

@@HelloOnepiece I don't ship really people, but I agree with the rest.

[@ninab.4540]

I'm in love with their love ❤

[@iBloodxHunter]

@@valentinkambushev4968 How about just get good at doing it in the real world.

[@ashenesoterica]

Perfection. And the video. Very nicely done. I would have been bawling and roaring with excitement if I'd gotten to see this as it aired, not gonna lie.

[@clippychan530]

I like to think that they officially got back together some time after "stakes" and before the finale, that kiss was way too natural to be their first kiss. I think another thing that makes bubbline the best ship is that it isn't a will they won't they kind of thing, it's about two people growing into themselves and trying again on a past relationship. There was never a question of if they would get together, it was about the when.

[@BaeCat872]

I’ve always thought they got back together somewhere around stakes to the dinner date- There is just no platonic explanation for that episode

[@cherie..cherry]

Wym? You don’t just take your friends to have dinner with your adoptive dad?? 🥸

[@kasa-ysayan]

That episode "Broke his crown" is totally Marceline introducing her partner to her parent. And PB, for the sake of Marceline agreed meeting up with the ice king despite IK's actions towards her from the beginning of the showm

[@cgarcia3614]

I remember calling them "just friends" when I was watching the show at age 12, still against lgbtq+ anything because I believed it went against God, and also too ignorant to think they'd ever put a gay couple on TV. MY 12 YEAR OLD SELF WAS SO DUMB. XD I remember that legend of Korra really changed the game and made me realize not all characters I watched would have to default to straight. Just to be clear, I am in my twenties now, still religious, and fully in support of the lgbtq+ community. I don't believe God would have allowed people to find genuine love with those they wouldn't be allowed to marry. Love is love.

[@didnotmatter1991]

You know that humanity will become extinct right?

[@XD-pl8qu]

@@didnotmatter1991 Ah, yes, because everyone has to have children and if they don't then humanity will become extint. There's ppl who doesn't want children, there's lgbtq+ that can have biological children (and yes, without medical intervence). Using your ignorance as an excuse to hate ppl is not the hot take you think it is. A relationship is still valid without adding children to the mix, and not every lgbtq+ ppl is going to be childless

[@didnotmatter1991]

@@XD-pl8qu Don't try, this is against nature, we are male and female to reproduce and what they are doing is wrong, you are the one who should know this

[@didnotmatter1991]

@@XD-pl8qu Because you are religious, we should not sympathize with the killer, right??

[@eternallyg]

There’s plenty of stuff that feels good or that we want to do but isn’t right. Ask yourself can a man and a man make a baby or a woman and woman? No. Don’t fall into the lies of this world. And before y’all say “well some animals are homosexual” show me the articles and even if that’s true for human beings only a male and female make a baby. But y’all are the same people who get mad when somebody calls a man a man Jsut cuz he goes by she. But if a white man identified as a black man and got mad when u did not address him that way y’all would call him crazy. What a stupid world

[@silverpelt6786]

The hole reson i got into this show was the bad ass vampire queen ... im glad im in this fandom. It brings a tear to my eye.❤

[@brandonspears6996]

One of the things I loved about marcy is her voice actress. She had such an amazing singing voice. She voiced maho in the English dub of Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, and she was a character in the English dub of Rosario Vampire

[@goodbye3771]

wait for real???

[@Thatmoonnamedjune]

Don’t forget Vanessa from phineas and ferb

[@damonika09]

Also she was the one who rang the bell that Marcy and Bonnie used to date. She said it was a joke at first too. But she gave us a hint. Lol.

[@MG-mn7ig]

@@goodbye3771 Same I love Beck MCS and had no idea hahaha

[@audrey2658]

This just goes to show how willfully ignorant to lesbianism the majority of the population is when the lesbian pairing isnt pornographic. Ive always related to marcy (and bonnie) in more ways than one. She helped me discover my love for bass, women, and punk music. She helped me come to terms with my own father issues, being adopted as well. She will always be one of my favorite characters ever Also the homophobia filling the comments (new comments) is just... further reinforces my first statement.

[@myasmith1820]

PB is the lesbian tho, Marcy is bisexual

[@algiz21]

Hahahaha lmao gay with daddy issues what a suprise? Next you're gonna tell me you are bi polar or some shit.

[@serronserron1320]

The morally grey aspect of their lives is all so bizarre the way it affects their relationship though. As in the series starts out the Ice King is definitely an villain, but as the series progresses Princess Bubblegum turns out to be in even worst tyrant. Many of the characters have tragic history that seems to brush aside there questionable actions in the present. There long lives sort of indicate that they understand each other best and are meant to be together, but they treat other characters as or like pets were fleeting amusements. Finn is not a person to them, he is like a prize goldfish that will die in a few weeks.

[@eternallyg]

Stupid ship shut up Marcy could’ve been with anybody even another girl but PB annoying ass def no. Half of y’all literally Jsut praise and love this ship BECAUSE it’s a lesbian couple. Like how they pull that off and Finn still somehow alone

[@Septor-xc4xr]

@@myasmith1820 PB had a boyfriend too, young mr cremepuff or whatever his name was, they're both bi

[@Jackson-ub1uv]

The way their relationship was seeded throughout the whole show reminds me of Catra and Adora’s relationship.

[@artsenalproductions4813]

I knew I smelled something rotten.

[@moon7shinev150]

We got bubbeline now give us Gumlee in Fionna and Cake

[@hybridvenom9]

Fiona and cake have a multiverse plots or something but multiverse wow people are getting bored of this but I'm not yet i wanna wait until like the spider man beyond the spider verse and that's what I'm going to get bored

[@cerealkilleronatuesdaynight]

Man do i have some news for you

[@agustinmartinez6765]

I remember that sometime around season 3-4 there was this video about Marceline's voice actor at a convention or sth saying that the creator of the show straight up told her that Marceline and Princess Bubblegum used to date. So I always thought that them being a thing was something either universally agreed or just cannon, without the show having to confirm anything. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4u5Y2Vpe7Jkb7s

[@Kris-wo4pj]

She was forced to take it back (by saying it was just an idea or she misheard or something) or get fired by execs so everyone didnt take it as canon or real. Big discourse for a while about it. I remember all the damn forum flaming about it. Ended up switching to regular show cuz it wasnt as much as a dumpster fire.

[@yuzuyuri]

@@Kris-wo4pj oof, poor Olivia. Glad she didn't get fired coz I can't imagine anyone replacing her for the voice of Marceline.

[@spider8447]

Okay, I thought the ship was forced at the end because I didn't remember the hints or I was so young I didn't even catch them. Thanks for making this video, now I see the build-up of their relation :)

[@jesusofsuburbia3675]

Wish people be like you and like notice that there are indeed build-ups.

[@flooftof]

Same, I didn't quite understand the show as a kid. It was to complex and deep but I still enjoyed the random episodes I got to see. This show is pure art so full of emotion

[@theofficalsilentraven]

@@flooftof Same, super same

[@eternallyg]

Fuck the build ups ofc they planned it out doesn’t mean it’s not still garbage

[@gamingjolt9621]

I’m not into adventure time but I had a friend who is really into it and now I have another friend who is super into Steven universe but I like your content so I tapped on the video and I’m just now realizing how complex kid shows are

[@rainydays3126]

Korrasami made me want to tear out my eyes, but this THIS.... MADE ME CRY TEARSSSS OF JOYYYYYY! Even as a kid I loved how well they worked together!

[@SilverJ17]

After Flame Princess, I figured Finn was never meant to be with a princess. It just wasn't fitting for him. He's a knight Archetype, but not all knights need to be beholden to a princess. Perhaps, a fellow adventurer and fighter would make sense. I just wish they'd developed him and Huntress Wizard more in the specials. Finn finally could have realized the princesses he was pursuing were simply not his type. Rather, he'd realize a fellow adventurer fits his drive far more. Someone he can one day romance/ slice of life one day, explore dungeons and fight monsters the next. Flame Princess probably was the closest princess to being that for Finn until he ruined what they had. As for Bubbleline, I think Bubblegum only truly came to her senses in the present when he lost her kingdom to the King of Ooo for awhile and after Elementals. I think that's when she begun to realize focusing on her 'peeps' shouldn't be all there is to her life. For the record, I don't necessarily think everything in Fiona's side of the universe plays out identically, but we'll see with time. What I'm wondering how Simon will play into things. Speaking of Simon, I'd argue Simon x Betty is best ship, or was. (going by the various flashbacks we saw of them together) It really makes you feel bad for Simon he couldn't get to be with her in the end. I hope Simon finds another who can fill much of the Betty-shaped hole in his heart as possible.

[@iBloodxHunter]

He's a Barbarian, wannabe Paladin. Not a knight.

[@Spaced92]

When she lost her kingdom is when she had to actually pay attention to herself. They both had to fix their own stuff ]or they'd never be happy, nearly every Adventure Time romance had a lot of unhealthy stuff going on, but I think Bubblegum was probably often repulsed by Marceline's neediness and that would never change as long as she was too busy with work, Marceline projects this when she claims that Bubblegum wants her to be like a candy kingdom subject, but Marceline also never actually cared about what PB wanted until the events of the show.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

A walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased.The black hole then turns to the star and says,"I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."

[@KatNips]

adventure time is that cartoon I watch when i'm on edibles, and then have an existencial crisys when the effect goes away, then cry.

[@shuna.]

As someone who grew up reading, watching, and consuming Yuri when I saw the I'm just your problem episode, I knew in my heart they used to be a couple. I was never into Adventure time unlike my family and when I saw them watching that, there's no way they didn't have any romantic relationship. I was hooked. Then VAs back and forth with confirming the relationship made me doubt. And what do you know, Everything Stakes came out. That solidified Bubbline for me. 😂🤭

[@TheCommenterDragon]

PB and Marcy instantly became one of my favorite Adventure Time couples! Sure even their relationship had it's ups and downs but it's still one of my all time favorites!!!

[@purpleissupeirior]

Nah I’m not asexual I was just a stupid kid