Priority 600x First Look - A Pinion Gearbox, an Inverted Fork, and a Purpose-Built Bikepacking Frame

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@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Learn more about the priority 600x and order yours here: bit.ly/3obBJw1
@duzer
@duzer Жыл бұрын
My man!!! It gives me great joy to see this bike in your studio. I appreciate all the kind words…I’m gonna come your way someday for a little party on the AZT!!
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Can't wait! Thanks for helping me get this bike in for review.
@ccapp3389
@ccapp3389 Жыл бұрын
Worlds colliding! Love this!
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын
Fan of both of you guys. Looking forward to this!
@edzeppelin933
@edzeppelin933 Жыл бұрын
You two should go bikepacking together! Two smart bike brains!
@lemonadejars
@lemonadejars Жыл бұрын
❤ Duzer, such a positive dude. Whenever I’m feeling down I watch his videos for some good vibes
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын
Refer to Ryan’s videos on the belt he broke on the CDT. In summary, he learned from Gates that feeding the belt onto the (sprockets?) while under tension like you would a single speed with a chain, compromises the braided strands inside of the belt. When those go, you’re riding strictly on rubber, and it’ll break very soon from there. His videos about that incident will only serve to increase your confidence in belts, when treated properly. He hasn’t had one break in the several tours since, and I’d argue nobody has stronger legs than that dude!
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 Жыл бұрын
Ryan is an inspiration about setting goals and getting it done... and the best cycling ambassador on the planet. Props to John and Mira too.
@johnster187
@johnster187 Жыл бұрын
Ryan Van Duzer is an awesome guy and his energy is fantastic to see................. only good vibes from this man and i love his channel. ❤❤ Nice to see you reviewing his bike 👍👍also be nice to see you take this bike on a bike packing trip for a long term review.
@ssmtb
@ssmtb Жыл бұрын
Props to Priority for sending this in for review! Looks like a really interesting ride, can't wait to hear Steve's inputs 🤘 Update: wow just saw Priority's Sauce model, looks amazing 🤩
@frbrable
@frbrable Жыл бұрын
I've had mine for about six months and love it! At first, I wasn't sure, because it was so different than what I was used to. But now it's become my go-to bike. I really like the Pinion gearbox. I love not getting greasy or having to think about lubing my chain. I have grown to love the relatively upright position (much less neck and shoulder pain on long rides). Granny gear is great and I can climb steep stuff. Cons: 1. Yes, it is heavier than I would like, but whatever; 2) It's not an especially fast bike, and it's not especially nimble. Oh, and that Gates carbon belt drive app actually sucks and is totally useless. But for long days of worry-free riding, this bike has been rad.
@johnnydoe66
@johnnydoe66 Жыл бұрын
Ryan has definitely proven this concept with all his epic bicycle adventures. Personally I wouldn't really call this a mtn bike, but a "fat" tire touring/adventure bike. Ryan and Priority have in a sense designed a chimera bicycle; mtn + tourer + bikepacker. I have watched Ryan's videos and he has definitely taken his Priority loaded on a wide variety of trails/roads, even having to push the bike because of the amount of weight he was carrying. Looking forward to your review as more of a dedicated mtn biker vs. bike tourer/packer.
@rickelliott7653
@rickelliott7653 Жыл бұрын
Great first impression review. I almost bought this bike about a year ago based on Ryan’s review but alas I’m a bigger dude and ended up with the Why Wayward for my Bikepacking needs. Ryan is an inspiration to all and he got me off my couch. I enjoy both yours and his YT channels.
@tikas408
@tikas408 Жыл бұрын
Great first look! I'm excited to see your review. I've had my finger on the trigger for this bike for a while now. Just waiting for the best time when the wife won't kill me for getting another bike. lol
@ClarkesOutThere
@ClarkesOutThere Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the review! I'm riding my 600x down the full Eastern Divide Trail in August. The Gates belt drive and Pinion gearbox proved to be bombproof on my bikepacking tours last year, but this 6,000 mile adventure will likely definitely push the limits. Overall, I've found it to be a very comfortable bike to ride loaded on long distances and across varied terrain. Way to go Ryan and Priority!
@sparks701
@sparks701 Жыл бұрын
About time. Lol. I requested they send you this bike a year ago to get it out there. Ryan’s videos are great and I thought this channel would bring it to a whole new world for bike packers. Excited to see you on it. A little skeptical of the fork but would love to see your opinion.
@jeffneisler1405
@jeffneisler1405 Жыл бұрын
Bought Priority's 20 inch kid's bike for my grandson which has the belt drive & internal gear hub a couple of years ago & can highly recommend. No issues & he loves it. I am planning on getting their 24 inch model soon for him to size up & passing down his current bike to my granddaughter as soon as she gets a little taller.
@ElevationEveryWeekend
@ElevationEveryWeekend Жыл бұрын
I am fascinated by the pinion concept for touring and bikepacking, so glad to see this. I’d love to see it more in the fat bike world, as REEB is about the only one I am familiar with. Haven’t tried the Wren fork but do have their Perseverance bars with the arm cups and love them for this style of riding.
@ginocecchetto8286
@ginocecchetto8286 Жыл бұрын
Carver builds more pinion drive fatbikes than anyone else. I ride a full custom geo pinion drive Ti Omega Beast and love it.
@davegonz2000
@davegonz2000 Жыл бұрын
I love watching Ryan's channel. This should be interesting.
@devondyreson
@devondyreson Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the first big USA bike manufacture to release a Pinion Drive bike! Love belts and internal gears.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Another perspective: what a great time to support smaller companies that are willing to think outside the box and try new things.
@devondyreson
@devondyreson Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty I do have belt driven bikes from smaller companies. But I’m getting sick of fixing/maintaining traditional drivetrains on my family/friend’s bikes. Wish belts were standard for intro bikes and chains/derailleurs reserved for upper level models.
@chuckrodgers4780
@chuckrodgers4780 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your ride review. I think if you changed the bar and stem to better fit you and your likes would be perfectly acceptable for the test . Anyone buying a new bike will tweak the contact points to their liking. Have fun !!
@2scoops624
@2scoops624 Жыл бұрын
Love Ryan Van Duzer, love Hardtail party
@danwebber9494
@danwebber9494 Жыл бұрын
I chuckled at your car comparison, I do the same thing. ‘72 Land Cruiser, VW sand rail, turbocharged Forester, etc.
@thezonemtb
@thezonemtb Жыл бұрын
I love watching Ryan videos. I do wish this bike was offered in my wife's size. At 4'10" and needing a standover less than 26" it makes it difficult to find bikes to fit her.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Check out prevelo
@thezonemtb
@thezonemtb Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty She rides a Pivot Mach 4. So there are options but not many
@michaellee2652
@michaellee2652 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that I found this channel. I'm moving back to the states and have a new bike waiting on me. I haven't ridden trails in 11 years and can't wait to get back into it!!! Things have changed a lot since I used to ride. I had 3 bikes back in early 2000's and switched over to rigid frames and commuter bikes. It's gonna be like riding for the first time!! Haha (of course on a Hardtail)!
@PsychicDavidJames
@PsychicDavidJames Жыл бұрын
I have two of their bikes, the 600 and the Apollo and they've been a great company to deal with.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that. I've had wonderful interactions with them too, but I always wonder if reviewers get special treatment or if everyone gets that same attention. So glad to hear your experience mimicked mine.
@MikeSuding-
@MikeSuding- Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty I have a Priority 600 and a Sauce. They have been great to me.
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the test ride!
@kevinreillysr.9938
@kevinreillysr.9938 Жыл бұрын
This bike just goes and goes and is great for AZ trails, Ryan is the man....
@MF50s
@MF50s Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for ride review
@chrislonsberry1974
@chrislonsberry1974 7 ай бұрын
Great initial review. I own this bike and I have nothing but good things to say about it. I’ll be curious to see your ride review.
@charlesholland6851
@charlesholland6851 Жыл бұрын
I think their bikes are sweet. We have a casual group ride and this guy had a commuter bike from them. In my opinion, it was sick!!
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын
I would kill to have a pinion gearbox on my Surly Ice Cream Truck. 🤘
@superandy89
@superandy89 Жыл бұрын
I wish Costco would run a discount on this bike. They have other Priority bikes, just not the pinion ones.
@swnorcraft7971
@swnorcraft7971 Жыл бұрын
I'm adding a shout out to Ryan.....Thanks for bringing this bike to my awareness! Love it! My sister has one as well.......
@bushflyr7335
@bushflyr7335 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! :D Gearboxes are absolutely the future. After getting my Zerode I'll never be buying another derailleur bike. The Pinion setup is just SO good. The ONLY downside (besides cost) is the high engagement angle. It's not an issue for me at all, but I can see it being annoying if you're doing a bunch of super techy climbs where you have to do a ton of ratchet pedaling. You need to get a Viral Skeptic in for testing next.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
I've ridden two zerodes, cool bikes. I'll make a video about the pros and cons of pinions in my opinion soon...
@djiembefolaDan
@djiembefolaDan Жыл бұрын
shout out to Ryan Van Duzer, an amazing guy with the best attitude ever. I've been looking at this bike and almost pulled the trigger twice! I do all kinds of riding , a lot or road, gravel,and mtb; got all the bikes for each. This seems like a killer go-anywhere bike. I 'm not a bikepacker (yet) , I just think this bike is so practical ! I'm 6'1" , inseam 34 and long arms, I figured a Large would be the ticket. What do you think? Thanks again, love the worlds colliding here......
@frbrable
@frbrable Жыл бұрын
Yes, for you, I would go for the large. I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam, so right between sizes. I have tried both large and medium and went with the medium, but I could have made large work. The top tube will still be pretty close to your crotch in large, but I'd still say that's the right size for you.
@russelrivera5044
@russelrivera5044 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I just reached out to priority asking if they would send you their Sauce for review. The gearing seems steep, but I wonder if it would make a suitable retro klunker. Great review as always!
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
The Sauce looks fun. I really like the handlebars.
@jackcarter233
@jackcarter233 Жыл бұрын
My favorite category of biking is mountain touring now. Supple fat tires are perfect for adventure cruising & exploring.
@William.N
@William.N Жыл бұрын
So many things on that bike that I am looking forward to hearing about!
@jasonkroll2735
@jasonkroll2735 Жыл бұрын
Like the inverted forks these days . Keeping a lookout for that review ....especially since there's a possible problem with them. Great Priority review is a lil heavy. But seems tough.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Pinions are NOT light. Expect +2lbs at least with a pinion
@swnorcraft7971
@swnorcraft7971 Жыл бұрын
I have owned this bike now for 3 years. It came with TRP 4 piston brakes. Very recently changed to TRP Spyke mechanicals for the field serviceable aspect and less complexity. ( I really wanted the Paul Klampers but just couldn't go the price) Coupled with Jagwire Mountain Pro cables, hard to tell the difference from hydraulic. I laced 10mm wider rims to accommodate 3 inch tires. They run fine......albeit very small running clearance for mud etc on the rear as you have shown. I believe the 600X is spec'd out for 2.8" tires. My bike does have a through bolt axle on the rear (my preference) and QR bolt on the front I have a Cane Creek Thudbuster seat post and a Jones H bar with 2.5" rise. My stem also has a 2.5" rise. I can't do flat bars due to a neck injury some years ago. This has been a fantastic machine! I don't have anywhere near the miles on it that Ryan has....just need more time. I agree, that you get a lot of bang for your buck with the 600X. A similar bike in another brand like Reeb would be at least 2K more...... Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your ride review!
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
The reeb will be TONS different, especially in terms of geometry. There are quite a few pinion hardtails out there, the geo is quite different for all of them.
@fpeter01
@fpeter01 Жыл бұрын
Finally a unique HT!
@tyrdle
@tyrdle Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to be able to afford one of these in 10 years
@wesleywermuth9545
@wesleywermuth9545 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the ride review. Looks like a cool bike!
@user-lc2mu9jk2b
@user-lc2mu9jk2b Жыл бұрын
Both of you, Steve and Ryan, inspire me and are my favorites. Riding and bikepacking on hard tails. Waiting for the review and hopefully see you ride together and share your mutual thoughts.
@pmm1044
@pmm1044 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in it cuz it is low maintenance!!!!
@thuggooch1776
@thuggooch1776 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see you reviewing this bike! I have the same problem with my 600X I'm a short guy who should have gotten a small but I'm also very happy with the extra bag space. I've got my Priority 600X setup with a much shorter stem and a set of Moloko bars from Surly. I also added a set of WTB Ranger 29x3.0 tires and they seem to work good on these rims. Thank you for sharing this video I look forward to hearing more.
@freekit9997
@freekit9997 2 ай бұрын
Can I ask you how tall you are and what your inseem 's like? I'm hesitating, small or medium...
@thuggooch1776
@thuggooch1776 2 ай бұрын
@@freekit9997 I’m 5’7 and I have no idea what my inseam is. I usually try to get 30 length pants but end up cuffing them lol. I ride a medium 600x though.
@politan83
@politan83 Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious for what you'd think of the Priority Sauce.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the sauce. I don't think the gearing or the geometry would suit my preferences for where I love, but I love its simplicity.
@jurisx85
@jurisx85 Жыл бұрын
That bike is pushing every boundary and preconceived notion in the bike world. Id be interested to know your thoughts on gear boxes and their future for Mtb.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
I'll make a video covering that topic soon.
@cjohnson3836
@cjohnson3836 Жыл бұрын
I mean, touring bikes with chunky tires aren't new. Surly had one that ran 29x3. What this does different is the pinion drive
@ginocecchetto8286
@ginocecchetto8286 Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty Steve, I have over 18,000 miles on pinion drive mountain and fatbikes. Would really like to chat with you to front load you with some info and connect you with Marc Seemann at Pinion/Gates North America.
@johnnykramolis7469
@johnnykramolis7469 Жыл бұрын
wow amazing bike.
@Happy_Biker
@Happy_Biker Жыл бұрын
This is really exciting for me. 👍
@mattfinch3895
@mattfinch3895 Жыл бұрын
Modern pedal drive are the future.
@CarsandBikes
@CarsandBikes 4 ай бұрын
I am torn between this and the Niner SIR 9. I love the Pinion but I don't know if I will miss the Reynolds 853.
@stevencole7331
@stevencole7331 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if its the same gates manufacturer as my timing belt i put on my kia last year . If these are equivelent to a timing belt they should have a long lifespan . Not sure why the belt you had broke but that may have been defective . I would like to give backpacking a go someday . Ryans adventures are fun to watch and incentive to give it a go . Interesting to see what a dedicated mountainbiker thinks of this bike and what it can do safely .
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Same parent company, but different division
@swnorcraft7971
@swnorcraft7971 Жыл бұрын
I removed the side stand on mine. It slaps up and down on single track. I figured with how much it weighs, it could potentially weaken the chain stay over time.
@Mt.herzberg99
@Mt.herzberg99 11 ай бұрын
Lovely
@sethmoniz915
@sethmoniz915 Жыл бұрын
Yay!
@timcolton4680
@timcolton4680 Жыл бұрын
Why can't you use the Coast Dropper, you mentioned you were not able to use it but didn't go into why. I about ready to pull the trigger on a 600x, I'm 5'10" & 32" inseam and am on the edge of a Small or Medium. I don't care about the size of the center bag. What do you think. Thanks Love Ryan's channel too, watch all the videos, super guy.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
I did go into it. The seat tube is too long for my legs with the dropper on it. If I had sized down I would have been able to use it. My fault.
@timcolton4680
@timcolton4680 Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty Oh, thanks for the info, I use the Coast Dropper on my current hardtail and cannot live without it and want one for the 600x so still not sure if the small or medium would be better for me. Living in South Texas I'd rather get it right the first time and keep from ending a medium back for al small, probably not good.
@EricHorchuck
@EricHorchuck 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I really hate that it has quick release, or as we call them in Philadelphia, "easy steals". I was going to buy this for a daily commuter / around the city bike but I really don't want to carry a chain big enough to go through both wheels and the frame just to stop at a store for a bottle of water, etc.... From what I've been told, please correct me if I'm wrong, you can't change a quick release to a straight through bolt because the frame is designed for one or the other is that correct or is it just the fork is designed for one or the other? Thanks! Great first look. Take care, -E EDIT: I really want a belt drive internally geared bike. The only option I can think of here in the States is the Cannondale Bad Boy 1. I really wish someone would do a serious review on that like you do. Is it comfortable to ride around all day? Is it a piece of junk? LOL. It's probably the main reason I haven't bought it yet I haven't found one good review, or even one bad one, which kind of has me wary of it.
@sleepyholler9519
@sleepyholler9519 Жыл бұрын
You’ve done a video on the Wren before I was hoping you’d talk about it more in this video. It seems there might be some action on inverted forks recently. What are your thoughts on them in General and with the Wren specifically.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
I have a dedicated video coming soon
@BrandonMeyer1641
@BrandonMeyer1641 Жыл бұрын
This bike seems very strange to me. From the bars, to tires, to the geo, to the fork, to the drivetrain, it’s all just very weird. I’m sure it has a place and some people would really love it but it just doesn’t seem like the bike for me. Priority is an interesting company. They are all about the belt drives, cruisers, and bikes under $1000. My feeling is that they cater more towards “lifestyle” cyclists, or riders who aren’t very serious or care about maintenance. That is why they go for internal gearing and belt drive. It’s simple and low maintenance for the end user. I think when priority made this bike, they still had that same end user in mind. Hence, the kickstand. Id be hesitant to buy this bike especially considering the price. Regardless, I am interested to see what you think of it Steve.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
Ryan has put more miles on his priority 600x than almost anyone in these comments sections (including me) will ever put on all their bikes combined. He's dragged that thing all over the world and it's still going strong.
@frbrable
@frbrable Жыл бұрын
I think that you're probably partly right. I have this bike and ride it 3-4 days per week between commuting and on local gravel roads and trails. Will probably do several multi-day, not-especially-technical-but-remote bikepacking trips in a year. I ride about 2,000 miles per year, so not a ton, but enough that I don't think I'm a lifestyle cyclist. I have a lot of hobbies and learning in-depth bike maintenance and repair doesn't interest me as other things (although I'm slowly learning). But yeah, I get what you mean. I think the bike _is_ somewhat weird looking. You should try one out!
@roesch1111
@roesch1111 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can get the bike with the P18
@MathisMade
@MathisMade Жыл бұрын
Please have Priority build you a signature bike. I would totally buy it, we ride pretty similar.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
My signature bike is a Binary Maniak. I'll see if Priority wants to partner on designing a model together, I think it could be fun!
@MathisMade
@MathisMade Жыл бұрын
Yes! Even that, but one with a pinion gearbox. :)
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
@@MathisMade pinions require a much longer chainstay, so sadly my favorite geo isn't possible with a pinion.
@israeladams6439
@israeladams6439 Жыл бұрын
i put a salsa carbon fork on my 600x, didnt like the stock suspension forks, but it is my fav bike..
@ryansager6100
@ryansager6100 Жыл бұрын
How did this change the weight and feel of the ride?
@israeladams6439
@israeladams6439 Жыл бұрын
@@ryansager6100 much lighter, and able to put stuff n things on the forks, sooo much better..
@rpiian
@rpiian Жыл бұрын
Definitely a cool bike. Excited to hear your ride impressions! I agree about the seattube though, that's longer than most Lg Mtb frames.
@phatso786
@phatso786 Жыл бұрын
Can you review the NS Eccentric aluminum. It's a sub $400 frame with modern geo and they have a steel version as well
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Priority Sauce? 👍🏼👍🏼
@dgriffinm
@dgriffinm Жыл бұрын
It’s cool, I’d ride a belt drive
@quesoner34
@quesoner34 Жыл бұрын
@hardtailparty what'd you do to break the belt? I was contemplating getting one, but am concerned for it's longevity as I regularly monster truck over fallen trees and sometimes hit the sprocket on those.
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
If your sprocket comes in contact with rocks or roots, I don't recommend a belt drive.
@quesoner34
@quesoner34 Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty Yeah, that's what I thought, might keep oiling that chain then. Thanks for the response and keep it up! 👍
@psps6623
@psps6623 5 ай бұрын
7:23 Hey!..............It's "Mr. Idiot" to you, sir
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you know GoodYear calls the Peak their XC tire fwiw. What's the max it can fit in 29er?
@hardtailparty
@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын
It really surprised me how thin the sidewalls were, even for an xc tire.
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 Жыл бұрын
@@hardtailparty Let's hope it's not thin enough to cause problems. I did a search again and it looks like it also comes in a CX variant(35mm) that is 120tpi 1-ply and a slightly heavier 60tpi model. Schwable does this with the Rocket Ron too making a CX sized tires.
@FordTechGuy
@FordTechGuy Жыл бұрын
I purchased the 600x a year ago. I'm sure it would fit up to a 29 x 2.5 with no problem. The first thing I did was get rid of the Goodyear tires and I run 29 x 2.4 Maxxis Rekon (not the race version) They really work well on this bike. I also had NOBL build me some 35mm carbon wheels with Vesper Hubs. There are slightly lighter than the OEM wheels and I really like them much better than the WTB's it came with. All tubeless of course. The OEM Goodyears are tubeless ready, but the bike ships with tubes in the tires.
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